04/2011 - Ex Pats That Fall

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Originally Posted by Jimmydr

Then why would you move to DR ... ?

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Not enough haitianas in Argentina.

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Originally Posted by weyland

Not enough haitianas in Argentina.

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There has to be wrong with you guys that focus on one Nationality. I like Dominicans, Mexicans, Colombians and Jamaicans to name a few. I always head to their homelands to nail them.

I am glad this thread was started. I am failing totally. Who will volunteer to set up a network of collecting boxes along the North Coast for my benefit? Those wishing to donate in US$ four figures please PM me for my PayPal account.

CAUTION: do not hand your donation to an ugly, deranged guy who hangs at many popular monger spots in Sosúa such as Black Box and Rocky's and tries to bum drinks off guys by claiming to be my son.

My real son will be a future President of Haïti. I just need ISOC's specialist in the subject (ErikS) to train him in the necessary mooning skills.

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Originally Posted by Jimmydr

Then why would you move to DR, after all, you seem to be having a very bad time here?

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''There you go again!'' Hallucinating! I believe this is elucidated in one of my original posts on ISOC. Additionally, AR developed many problems like extreme inflation, fewer friends visiting, possible severe problems after their election, closure of everyone's favorite hangout, breakup with a 5 year novia, and actually, a very boring scene until very late at night. But, I really miss the steaks! :biggrin:I have been visiting the RD mucho for 10 years and I LIKE the RD !!!!!!!!!!!!!:biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Sidney

''There you go again!'' Hallucinating! I believe this is elucidated in one of my original posts on ISOC. Additionally, AR developed many problems like extreme inflation, fewer friends visiting, possible severe problems after their election, closure of everyone's favorite hangout, breakup with a 5 year novia, and actually, a very boring scene until very late at night. But, I really miss the steaks! :biggrin:I have been visiting the RD mucho for 10 years and I LIKE the RD !!!!!!!!!!!!!:biggrin:

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Thanks for recapping for me. We have over 900,000 posts here, so how do you expect me to remember everything written.

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Originally Posted by Jimmydr

About 98% will fail.

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I think your percentage of failure is greatly overestimated. How many places have you been in the world where there is not some sort of expat businesses doing well?

You can't go to the most remote places on the planet without running into an English or Irish pub for example. There are plenty of expat owned bars/restaurants/guest houses that do a decent business and have repeat customers year after year. Plenty of people fail at business in their own country too. How many failed businesses are there in NYC in a given year?

You were recently in Thailand. Did you see all those expat owned businesses, bars and guest houses primarilty, that were doing good and steady and repeat business. Sure, there are slow seasons during the year and times can be a bit tough. But that is always the case in the hospitality business.

You have to remember Jimmy, a person who ventures out away from his home to start a new life in another country, to take that leap of faith, must have supreme confidence in themselves to make it work. There will be failures of course, if it was that easy, everyone would be doing it. But to simply dismiss nearly 100% of expats as failures in a business venture is to underestimate their desire and determination.

I always try to support those expats who made the move and made themselves a new life. Whether it is buying a drink in their bar, a meal in their restaurant or a room at their guest house. Plus, they are a great source of information about the area where they live. That can be a tremendous help if one is a newbie.

Thats one reason why I truly admire the Brits. From such a small island and population (relative) they have an adventurous spirit and drive to go out into the world and stake their claim. And without all the gov't rules and regulations (read: taxes) that they have to adhere to back in Old Blimey.

Plus...they can be funny as hell in their company when having a few pints!

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smooth

I always try to support those expats who made the move and made themselves a new life. Whether it is buying a drink in their bar, a meal in their restaurant or a room at their guest house. Plus, they are a great source of information about the area where they live. That can be a tremendous help if one is a newbie.

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I usually buy from Nationals first, ex Pats second.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smooth

I think your percentage of failure is greatly overestimated. How many places have you been in the world where there is not some sort of expat businesses doing well?

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I was talking about Sosua.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smooth

Thats one reason why I truly admire the Brits. From such a small island and population (relative) they have an adventurous spirit and drive to go out into the world and stake their claim. And without all the gov't rules and regulations (read: taxes) that they have to adhere to back in Old Blimey.

Plus ... they can be funny as hell in their company when having a few pints!

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What a wise and humane man you are! Change "Brits" to "English" and be my friend for life!

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Originally Posted by Jimmydr

I was talking about Sosua.

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And talking correctly! Jimmy's not talking about the world or even the rest of the island.

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Originally Posted by weyland

I am glad this thread was started. I am failing totally. Who will volunteer to set up a network of collecting boxes along the North Coast for my benefit? Those wishing to donate in US$ four figures please PM me for my PayPal account.

CAUTION: do not hand your donation to an ugly, deranged guy who hangs at many popular monger spots in Sosúa such as Black Box and Rocky's and tries to bum drinks off guys by claiming to be my son.

My real son will be a future President of Haïti. I just need ISOC's specialist in the subject (ErikS) to train him in the necessary mooning skills.

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I think you should put a flaca Haitiana on every street corner holding a bed pan for people to drop donations into. Your "real" son? Is that the little retard you are always telling me about? I doubt you will ever collect enough money to buy an election for him. However the possibility does exist for your caregiver to "see the light", as my former novia did, and return to her previous job. No doubt she could, one day, accumulate enough money to buy an election for her little retard provided she does not waste any of it on medical bills for prolonging you life.

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Originally Posted by el toro

It sounds like a better plan if you have fairly deep pockets or substantial savings would be to just budget that money out per month over years to live off than to invest in a business on a roll of the dice there.

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It helps if you have a steady income.My biggest problem is the lack of things to do here but that is one of the things taht comes with living in Small Towns.I spend way too much Money on Fucking and drinking poor me.If my last 1 1/2 would have been caught on film.Awww man most people would not beleve it if I told it lots of times it comes across as bragging but it is just talking about what I do I don't have much to talk about far as the States are concerned because I don't live there it sounds like you are talking about Brian.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smooth

I think your percentage of failure is greatly overestimated. How many places have you been in the world where there is not some sort of expat businesses doing well?

You can't go to the most remote places on the planet without running into an English or Irish pub for example. There are plenty of expat owned bars/restaurants/guest houses that do a decent business and have repeat customers year after year. Plenty of people fail at business in their own country too. How many failed businesses are there in NYC in a given year?

You were recently in Thailand. Did you see all those expat owned businesses, bars and guest houses primarilty, that were doing good and steady and repeat business. Sure, there are slow seasons during the year and times can be a bit tough. But that is always the case in the hospitality business.

You have to remember Jimmy, a person who ventures out away from his home to start a new life in another country, to take that leap of faith, must have supreme confidence in themselves to make it work. There will be failures of course, if it was that easy, everyone would be doing it. But to simply dismiss nearly 100% of expats as failures in a business venture is to underestimate their desire and determination.

I always try to support those expats who made the move and made themselves a new life. Whether it is buying a drink in their bar, a meal in their restaurant or a room at their guest house. Plus, they are a great source of information about the area where they live. That can be a tremendous help if one is a newbie.

Thats one reason why I truly admire the Brits. From such a small island and population (relative) they have an adventurous spirit and drive to go out into the world and stake their claim. And without all the gov't rules and regulations (read: taxes) that they have to adhere to back in Old Blimey.

Plus...they can be funny as hell in their company when having a few pints!

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I don't want to get into a history less on this one.I was almost tempted.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smooth

You have to remember Jimmy, a person who ventures out away from his home to start a new life in another country, to take that leap of faith, must have supreme confidence in themselves to make it work. There will be failures of course, if it was that easy, everyone would be doing it. But to simply dismiss nearly 100% of expats as failures in a business venture is to underestimate their desire and determination.

Thats one reason why I truly admire the Brits. From such a small island and population (relative) they have an adventurous spirit and drive to go out into the world and stake their claim. And without all the gov't rules and regulations (read: taxes) that they have to adhere to back in Old Blimey.

Plus...they can be funny as hell in their company when having a few pints!

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Originally Posted by weyland

What a wise and humane man you are! Change "Brits" to "English" and be my friend for life!

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Oh my god !!! :eek: He doesn't need to be pumped up any more than he already is :confused: You have any idea what you just did (LOL). :rofl:

I wouldent mind trying to start a place like passions there in sosua... i think it would be awsome. im just not sure what all it would take or where to start looking

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Originally Posted by weyland

What a wise and humane man you are! Change "Brits" to "English" and be my friend for life!

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Ahhh, weyland. I actually was thinking that you might comment about the "Brits" thing after I posted. We have gone down that road before. For you sir, I will acquience to your request and refer to my British mates as "English".

Of course, I did that with one guy, a former British Royal Marine, and he upbraided me for calling him "English". He said in a rather demanding tone, "I am Welsh". I can't seem to win. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Jimmydr

I was talking about Sosua.

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Point taken Jimmy. With Sosua, you really only have the beach and one main drag in town. Not too many options with the desirable foot traffic to make a go of it. But I think if an expat has very limited or no business acumen, as you have said before, he is just throwing money away.

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Originally Posted by el toro

What's up fellas,

Every time I go to Sosua now I see an ex-pat that seems nearly homeless now. When I first met him hanging out at NG he seemed to be doing well for himself and that he had an online hustle that was allowing him to live well there.

Some guys move to DR or other countries to enjoy the good life on comfortable pensions or reasonable cash reserves. Some relocate with business plans that don't always work out, or without a real plan, help the wrong people, get suckered for their stash or for whatever reason end up down and out and broke.

Some don't want to go home because they don't want to return to the US feeling like a failure embarrassed.

Do you know any ex-pats like this? Do you throw a few pesos their direction when visiting or sasy fuck em they CAN move back or have family somewhere or should've never moved without better plans, and are better off than most locales?

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Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth

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Originally Posted by weyland

What a wise and humane man you are! Change "Brits" to "English" and be my friend for life!

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In your case that could be a pretty short friendship Pops.

Thanks all for your input. I actually am reading E-Myth since it was mentioned yesterday.

The one ex-pat that I was thinking of when I started this thread was running (supposedly) an online trading business (hope I didn't blow up his spot).

I guess with an online business it's event more about what's inside a man that determines his success more so than physical location. Even though the same still applies to a large degree with offline business.

Thanks again bros.