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09/2010 - Would you do it again.
To all the guys that have made the move to DR, Columbia, Brazil, Thailand etc; would you do it again if you could go back in time? Or would you move to a different part of the country or to different country all together.
Robert you can't answer, you are still on your Ho-neymoon.
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Good question.
Or would you not move at all? Is your money holding out OK? Do you miss any family left behind? How often do you go back home?
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Tiger
Good question.
Or would you not move at all? Is your money holding out OK? Do you miss any family left behind? How often do you go back home?
Thanks Tiger for adding those questions. Would like to hear from the guys that have been in country for at least a year.
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4 yrs in the DR north and yes would move here with no problem again. To travel within this country is amazing, especially when you get to learn a new culture, language, and the process in how things are done in a third world country. The main success for anyone living here as I see it is to have a purpose and a budget whether you rent or own. I learned very quickly that I couldn’t live here as tourist, and at the same time I couldn’t save or change every local I crossed paths with. The locals see me more often and I try to use that to my advantage as much as possible as it make living here much more rewarding. Especially when it comes to chicas and getting pussy from all areas in the DR, as well as local business owners that will help in getting goods that I need to buy. I’ve had no problem in having a budget with my expenses as I make sure I get a local price, whether it’s food, clothing, and especially for pussy. In fact, my monthly expenses have only increased by 10% from the 1st yr I moved here when you include the movement in the exchange rate vs. the US. . The most expensive cost here for me is gasoline compared to back home, but having a car is such an advantage with what you can experience here. Believe me when I tell you this is one big fucking country, and the chicas are less expensive and are more available in areas where only the locals go for pussy. Family and friends will always be an issue, but I make a trip a yr. back home for family, and have several friends visit here and that’s been fine. As far as being anywhere else here in the DR, I’d probably choose POP or Santiago. But I would only do this after getting my feet wet with the culture and the language as I’ve done in the Sosua area. As I didn’t know 90% when I arrived here of how things are done, as well as how locals would treat me, I’m certainly happy that I moved into an area that was dominated by gringos. While living here I’ve certainly been able to learn not to let the little things concern me in life as I did back home. But one thing hasn’t changed over the last 4 yrs for me is the concern I have in the drop off numbers of sex visitors that visit here and the impact it has. I’m not the local gringo who is shy about being in Sosua and POP 4-6nights a wk. and every colmado in between. When I see the lack of visitors at night and the domino affect it has on this economy, it does concern me. Especially when you consider that 99.5% of the sex trade in Sosua is done in an area that is less than the length of a football field and at the same time creates so many other jobs and opportunities for locals that I have come in contact with. But this concern of mine is for another tread, so I’ll say it for DMV again, and let the congregation say, Amen :wink:
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Hey Steve,
If you don't mind writing a bit more.
1. What was the hardest things to learn in your new environment? Biggest lessons learned...
2. How long did you live there before the local started treating you different than the typical tourist?
3. Would you ever live outside a gringo dominated area or would you recommend it?
4. Do most of the X-pats tend to slow down to a steady chica/girlfriend and just dabble on the side.
Thx.
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Originally Posted by
DMV
To all the guys that have made the move to DR, Columbia, Brazil, Thailand etc; would you do it again if you could go back in time? Or would you move to a different part of the country or to different country all together.
Robert you can't answer, you are still on your Ho-neymoon.
Ha ha.. what a question!!!
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MrHappy
Ha ha.. what a question!!!
Com'on Mr. Happy. You've seen many changes. I know you could write a book (I wish you would), but give us some cliff notes.
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DMV
To all the guys that have made the move to DR, Columbia, Brazil, Thailand etc; would you do it again if you could go back in time? Or would you move to a different part of the country or to different country all together.
I just had my one year anniversary as a permanent resident of Puerto Plata. I have a limited income and have now spent all my savings in getting settled here, as planned. But it is much better to be rich man in a poor country than poor man in a rich country.
I bought a recent model small car and a nice house with pool and live with a sweet young Dominican woman. And I live on less money monthly than I used to pay in Canadian taxes and gas/electric bills. I still have my high definition satellite tv and high-speed internet, so don't feel like I've given up anything of importance, except 8 months of winter. I don't monger much (hardly at all) on my budget, but then I couldn't afford to do so in Canada either. And living with a young willing young woman makes up for that in spades :biggrin:. Far better than dating old fat gringas in Canada. The only downside is that I only see my son and grandson once a year.
Would I do it again? In a heartbeat, without thinking. But if my Spanish had been better I'd have liked to visit Ecuador and Columbia first.
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terrierist
I still have my high definition satellite tv and high-speed internet, so don't feel like I've given up anything of importance, except 8 months of winter.
Would I do it again? In a heartbeat, without thinking. But if my Spanish had been better I'd have liked to visit Ecuador and Columbia first.
Congrats on your 1st yr!!!! Do you use one company for your internet and TV reception?
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DMV
Congrats on your 1st yr!!!! Do you use one company for your internet and TV reception?
Thanks, DMV. The last year has been an adventure, but a good one.
To answer your question, high definition TV is not available here officially. So I subscribe to DishNetwork using a New York address. ClaroTV, SkyTV and digital cable are all available, though in standard definition. But I still like lots of English channels and High Definition, so I use a New York address to subscribe to DISH.
My internet uses DSN through Codetel. But there are cable and wireless internet vendors here too. It is getting competitive and service is improving. I have heard horror stories about Codetel historically, but my experience with them has been near perfect. This week Codetel upgraded me from 768 kb/s to 1.5 mb/s for no additional charge. It makes a big difference when downloading movies or streaming videos.
I use Orange for my cell phone. Claro generally has better service, but my house is in one of the rare locations where Claro's signal is blocked and Orange is better.
But if you want, you can get cell phone, land line, digital tv and internet all through Codetel (Claro), and get a bundled discount at that, just like in North America. It's a good deal if you are not a videophile. But for me, hdtv is an important part of my techno-geek lifestyle. It keeps me at home and living within my budget. Hockey (yes I'm Canadian) now seems barely watchable on regular definition tv...the puck is small and fast and the difference in HDTV is quite dramatic. These old eyes can use all the help they can get.
I'm not out drinking and mongering very often, and tend to stay at home with "mi esposa, el internet, y el televisor", but it's a wonderful place to live and I do enjoy the local festivities. For example, last weekend was a 3 day merengue festival in Puerto Plata at the site of the old fort. It was well organized, with good security, ambulances, etc. Admission was FREE. It was packed. It was fun. The music was fine. And the chica turnout was superb. You just need to remember that this is not Sosua, and that these are not "working" girls. Nevertheless, poverty speaks volumes and I did manage to meet a couple of young things and take their digits for future reference. I am fortunate that my Spanish is improving. It compensates for the decline in the "professional" chica scene here on the North Shore.
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This may sound like an oxymoron, but anyone planning to live the expat life better have some personal discipline. Paradise can and will consume you if you don't. Yes, you can have too much fun.
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terrierist
Thanks, DMV. The last year has been an adventure, but a good one.
To answer your question, high definition TV is not available here officially. So I subscribe to DishNetwork using a New York address. ClaroTV, SkyTV and digital cable are all available, though in standard definition. But I still like lots of English channels and High Definition, so I use a New York address to subscribe to DISH.
My internet uses DSN through Codetel. But there are cable and wireless internet vendors here too. It is getting competitive and service is improving. I have heard horror stories about Codetel historically, but my experience with them has been near perfect. This week Codetel upgraded me from 768 kb/s to 1.5 mb/s for no additional charge. It makes a big difference when downloading movies or streaming videos.
I use Orange for my cell phone. Claro generally has better service, but my house is in one of the rare locations where Claro's signal is blocked and Orange is better.
But if you want, you can get cell phone, land line, digital tv and internet all through Codetel (Claro), and get a bundled discount at that, just like in North America. It's a good deal if you are not a videophile. But for me, hdtv is an important part of my techno-geek lifestyle. It keeps me at home and living within my budget. Hockey (yes I'm Canadian) now seems barely watchable on regular definition tv...the puck is small and fast and the difference in HDTV is quite dramatic. These old eyes can use all the help they can get.
I'm not out drinking and mongering very often, and tend to stay at home with "mi esposa, el internet, y el televisor", but it's a wonderful place to live and I do enjoy the local festivities. For example, last weekend was a 3 day merengue festival in Puerto Plata at the site of the old fort. It was well organized, with good security, ambulances, etc. Admission was FREE. It was packed. It was fun. The music was fine. And the chica turnout was superb. You just need to remember that this is not Sosua, and that these are not "working" girls. Nevertheless, poverty speaks volumes and I did manage to meet a couple of young things and take their digits for future reference. I am fortunate that my Spanish is improving. It compensates for the decline in the "professional" chica scene here on the North Shore.
Does not sound like a bad lifestyle.
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The Sage
This may sound like an oxymoron, but anyone planning to live the expat life better have some personal discipline. Paradise can and will consume you if you don't. Yes, you can have too much fun.
Why does that make me think of Apos :lol: Only kidding Darcy :wink:
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terrierist
Thanks, DMV. The last year has been an adventure, but a good one.
To answer your question, high definition TV is not available here officially. So I subscribe to DishNetwork using a New York address. ClaroTV, SkyTV and digital cable are all available, though in standard definition. But I still like lots of English channels and High Definition, so I use a New York address to subscribe to DISH.
My internet uses DSN through Codetel. But there are cable and wireless internet vendors here too. It is getting competitive and service is improving. I have heard horror stories about Codetel historically, but my experience with them has been near perfect. This week Codetel upgraded me from 768 kb/s to 1.5 mb/s for no additional charge. It makes a big difference when downloading movies or streaming videos.
I use Orange for my cell phone. Claro generally has better service, but my house is in one of the rare locations where Claro's signal is blocked and Orange is better.
But if you want, you can get cell phone, land line, digital tv and internet all through Codetel (Claro), and get a bundled discount at that, just like in North America. It's a good deal if you are not a videophile. But for me, hdtv is an important part of my techno-geek lifestyle. It keeps me at home and living within my budget. Hockey (yes I'm Canadian) now seems barely watchable on regular definition tv...the puck is small and fast and the difference in HDTV is quite dramatic. These old eyes can use all the help they can get.
I'm not out drinking and mongering very often, and tend to stay at home with "mi esposa, el internet, y el televisor", but it's a wonderful place to live and I do enjoy the local festivities. For example, last weekend was a 3 day merengue festival in Puerto Plata at the site of the old fort. It was well organized, with good security, ambulances, etc. Admission was FREE. It was packed. It was fun. The music was fine. And the chica turnout was superb. You just need to remember that this is not Sosua, and that these are not "working" girls. Nevertheless, poverty speaks volumes and I did manage to meet a couple of young things and take their digits for future reference. I am fortunate that my Spanish is improving. It compensates for the decline in the "professional" chica scene here on the North Shore.
If she is of age she's having sex... You don't always need a professional. Amateurs work well also.
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While all domincan women are not hoes I truly believe that 85% are only a family or personal emergency away from trading some snatch for cash. Sex just ain't the big deal it is for many of our first world females. It's simply another resource to be utilized in case of a financial emergency.
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The Sage
While all domincan women are not hoes I truly believe that 85% are only a family or personal emergency away from trading some snatch for cash. Sex just ain't the big deal it is for many of our first world females. It's simply another resource to be utilized in case of a financial emergency.
I couldn't disagree more. Sex is not that big a deal, compared to the States or Canada, but to the majority of Dominicans selling your ass is not acceptable under any circumstances.
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The Sage
While all domincan women are not hoes I truly believe that 85% are only a family or personal emergency away from trading some snatch for cash. Sex just ain't the big deal it is for many of our first world females. It's simply another resource to be utilized in case of a financial emergency.
I want to clarify this. i'm not talking about indiscriminately selling sex on the street or in the club. What I'm talking about is a chick going to a friend who she knows, knows guys who like meeting "new girls" or a neighbor choosing to make her presence and availability known to you. Once you get over the initial hurdle your name gets put on their go to list when they need something. In my view this is the only way to operate if you were living on the island outside of monger central. Who needs putas when you got an unlimited number of regular girls in you potential pool of lovers.
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The Sage
I want to clarify this. i'm not talking about indiscriminately selling sex on the street or in the club. What I'm talking about is a chick going to a friend who she knows, knows guys who like meeting "new girls" or a neighbor choosing to make her presence and availability known to you. Once you get over the initial hurdle your name gets put on their go to list when they need something. In my view this is the only way to operate if you were living on the island outside of monger central. Who needs putas when you got an unlimited number of regular girls in you potential pool of lovers.
I understand what you are saying, but I still disagree. This is a very Catholic country for starters. Family is extremely important here, much more so than the states, and as such a families opinion matters much more also to a girl. I don't think you can overestimate that. I would ask how much time have you spent with Dominican families? With their extended families? Completely outside of tourist areas, where you don't see any other gringos? Certainly not trying to imply I know everything or more than you do. Just what my personal experiences and observations have been since coming here and now living here. As always, I could be wrong.:)
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I have been here just over a year. Unlike Terrierist I haven't bought a property, and have no plans to do so. So I could always move to another country if things turned sour here. I have had a few problems and disappointments but nothing that has come close to making me regret moving here.
I have a few things going for me:
Firstly, being 70, I don't have to plan too far ahead (which makes the decision not to buy a property a no-brainer, for example, whereas a younger man might need to weigh that up more carefully).
Secondly, I am not an alcoholic and am ever less-likely to become one. I have seen that alcoholism is the main pitfall for ex-pats here.
Thirdly, at my age my sex drive is much reduced. This not only saves me money but makes it far less likely that I will make dumb decisions using the wrong head (another pitfall, second only to alcoholism). I don't actually believe in love between men and women and that helps too. (There is sex and there is friendship, and on rare occasions both together - parental love is a different issue).
Fourthly, I lived a simple life in England so there are no material things I miss too much here. (Would be nice to have a local soccer team to support but I might have to move to Haïti for that.)
Fifthly, although I have a daughter in England she is well able to support herself and cope with life's problems so I can focus all my attention on this disfunctional island.
Lastly, I have always been happy with my own company and am self-motivated. I meet a lot of ex-pats who aren't and they panic if they are alone for a day or two. This results in them going out in search of external stimulation and spending a lot more money than they can afford, and perhaps getting into further trouble with women or the police.
I could do with more of the discipline which Sage has wisely referred to. Before emigrating I was making good progress with Spanish and bragged that by the end of my first year here I would be speaking fairly fluently, if not necessarily correctly. In fact my Spanish is probably worse now than when I lived in England. From tomorrow I am going to discipline myself to study for an hour a day. I have all the materials I need and ten million Spanish speakers outside my door to practice on, so no more excuses.
I think anyone moving here needs at least one hobby or interest other than fucking and drinking. As most know, in my case I try to help out the local Haitian community but it is very hard to help people here. "No good deed goes unpunished" must have been written with this island in mind. But I am toughening up and getting more crafty at it.
My life is on hold at the moment as I waiting on two decisions which are out of my hands. Those issues should be resolved within a couple of weeks and then I can start on Year Two of my life here. It will be very different from Year One which, in many ways, was like a prolonged version of previous mongering holidays.
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Robert13212
I understand what you are saying, but I still disagree. This is a very Catholic country for starters. Family is extremely important here, much more so than the states, and as such a families opinion matters much more also to a girl. I don't think you can overestimate that. I would ask how much time have you spent with Dominican families? With their extended families? Completely outside of tourist areas, where you don't see any other gringos? Certainly not trying to imply I know everything or more than you do. Just what my personal experiences and observations have been since coming here and now living here. As always, I could be wrong.:)
I have to agree with Sage. It is not just a question of sex with gringos. This is the situation between Dominicans. Female jobs are routinely advertised with the requirement that the applicants are "of good appearance". This may simply mean "not dark-skinned" but it may also signal that the applicant is expected to put out.
Secondly, I don't agree that this is a "very Catholic country". The ruling class is certainly truly Catholic but they are a small minority. Outside that Catholicism is only paid lip-service.
Most Dominicans we meet would consider themselves "Christians" but which they mean not Catholic but one or other half-assed Evangelical or Baptist sect, possibly with a good admixture of santería. Not that this affects the question of putting out as they are just or more likely to be puritanical than strict Catholics.
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As you rightly deduced most of my time has been spent on the North Coast, but I talk to Dominicans that have lived and visited all over the island and in my years of visiting the country I think I have developed a feel for the culture. Actually I don't know what you're disagreeing with. My position is if the pressure is on and the "right" guy is around most dominican women would not be adverse to trading a little snatch for a financial favor or two. Of course this assumes that it could be done on the down low. Without a doubt the activating event for a chick would depend on her status and relationship with her family and community. Pressure to one woman is simply a momentary inconvenience to another. The point I'm trying to make is that the general attitude towards sex on the island opens the possibilities for a woman to trade on her charms as a survival resource. I suggest you take a very hard look at dominican culture. I believe what will be revealed is while the DR is a catholic country it is probably closer in application to the pragmatic approach embraced by the bishops and cardinals who tacitly supported the rape and molestation of young boys than it is to the idealism the church tries to market to its members.
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One more observation. I love Dominican women. No ifs or buts about it. i love those hoes. However, there's one big problem with them. Their place and treatment in their culture more times than not creates a creature who is deceitful and manipulating to an extreme. They will abandon you when you least expect it after telling you everything you wanted to hear, for months! My approach, always keep your guard up and expect the worst. Being involved with a Dominicana is like loaning out money. You should never loan someone more money than you are willing to lose.
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Muerda mí, pendejo :rolleyes:
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mikelodge
Why does that make me think of Apos :lol: Only kidding Darcy :wink:
Someday you'll have to explain to me what you mean by this.
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Damn, this thread is getting pretty deep. I wholeheartedly agree with weyland's opinion about expats and having a hobby besides drinking and fucking. And the part about enjoying your own company...very important!
I feel that the guy who has the take it or leave it attitude regarding the boozers and women has the best chance of being able to not only survive but make a decent life for himself. Moderation in vice can have it's own benefits. Robert, with his situation of having his weekend visitors and not going over the top with the alcohol, seems to be bearing this fact out.
If you are a person who needs constant outside stimulus in whatever form it may take to get through the day, or night, maybe you should think twice about doing the expat lifestyle fulltime and keep it in small doses throughout the year. After all, that ain't a bad way to live your life either!
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Muerda mí, pendejo :rolleyes:
Someday you'll have to explain to me what you mean by this.
Just that you were out of control having fun down there, :p
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weyland
My life is on hold at the moment as I waiting on two decisions which are out of my hands. Those issues should be resolved within a couple of weeks and then I can start on Year Two of my life here. It will be very different from Year One which, in many ways, was like a prolonged version of previous mongering holidays.
Do you see yourself staying in Puerto Plata?
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The Sage
One more observation. I love Dominican women. No ifs or buts about it. i love those hoes. However, there's one big problem with them. Their place and treatment in their culture more times than not creates a creature who is deceitful and manipulating to an extreme.
You think that its on Dominicans? Americans and Colombians and all other women are the same.
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moshy2k
Hey Steve, If you don't mind writing a bit more.
1. What was the hardest things to learn in your new environment? Biggest lessons learned...2. How long did you live there before the local started treating you different than the typical tourist?3. Would you ever live outside a gringo dominated area or would you recommend it?
4. Do most of the X-pats tend to slow down to a steady chica/girlfriend and just dabble on the side. Thx.
You asked 4 it!:wink:
#1. Environment concerns: Security in where I was going to live and my surrounding area was the hardest thing for me as I was not sure what the dangers were here w/ the locals. Also I needed to get to know other gringos around me as I was told they would help with the ins and outs of your area. I was always on my guard at home and when traveling out and into areas that may not have a lot of gringos present. Over time I was able to get out around the country which made my days more interesting and at the same time very rewarding. As stated b4, unless you think you can go to the beach every day and live a co**** life while hitting Sosua at night, you will need a purpose for being here. Even with a job, you need to get involved in something besides hunting chicas down. Volunteering your time, gym, and planning a personal trip somewhere helped me. Like 2or3 times a week outside of Sosua while taking public transport is what I did in the first 3 months b4 getting a car. Just going to POP and walking the streets, or learn the bus system and head to Santiago and back in a full day will help in developing confidence in where you are and the people you meet. I didn't know Spanish and It was very easy to see that I would need to learn quickly especially if I wanted to deal with the locals. If you need to learn then you will find just getting by on the basics (CD’s) will get you a long way. Then the more you hook up with locals in some way then the easier you will develop your skills vs. in a class room w/ a group of gringos, trust me on that one. I hooked up w/ a chica that I enjoyed and paid her $ a month to work 2 or 3 times a week in helping w/ my Spanish, and it also improved the sex.LOL! I’ve maintained that you must develop the ability to live under the radar in most every situation while living here as gringo. Avoiding conflicts with Dominicans is a must, and at the same time learn to swallow your ego and harness your anger. Never think a Dominican will side with you as a gringo when there’s another Dominican involved in a dispute. If you want and can only live by flashing, then it’s your thing and your time, it’s not mine. What I learned living here is that this is a third world country where 90% of the entire working force earns less then US$200 a month. Then when you take a local gringo who is spending on avg. 7 times that amount in living here, why would I want to flash and bring attention to myself? I learned Dominicans are survivors and image is everything to them. They will spend the last peso they have on a salon or pair of jeans b4 they think about where they are going eat next. But to see the real environment I had to venture out in this country. There I found people who may have just the basics in life, however they would give you the last scoop of rice if they knew you needed it. One of many lessons I learned about the environment was one that no matter how long I or you would live here this is not our country. Also, I learned because you cannot change the way things are done here, learn not to sweat the small stuff. Also another lesson I learned quickly was most Dominicans aren’t concern in getting anything changed here either. As far as looking at things in a logical way, well I was best leaving that at the airport especially when you experience how some things are done here and the speed in which they are done.
#2 Local treatment: There’s not a one rule for this on how Dominicans will treat you and the timing of this change. However, what I have learned is this really depends on you and what type of personality you bring to their table. Also a lot will simply evolve over time as to where and when you encounter locals, and probably more importantly how you present yourself to them. From day 1 I never dressed like a tourist w/ a camera around his neck everywhere, or wore shorts and sandals at night outside of tourist areas as I knew the locals would look at me as a tourist. I was told at the beginning; If you treat the locals like lower class citizens similar to how they’re treated by the so called rich Dominicans here, then I would suggest you get to the airport as fast as you can and leave. It did help me, and at the same time amazed me how showing a little respect along with a smile went a long way with the locals. And I already knew that if I did was hang out on PC all day/night and then head into classicos, well then I wouldl only really have one type of connection w/ a local that I was living here. Also my sole judgment would be based on what the rate was, which I know would be harder to convince them to lower if they only saw me in Classicos all the time. So I would say, depending on how long you plan to live here will determine whether you’re able to encounter more Dominicans especially outside of Sosua, and how they treat you as well. I had and still do have a 6-8 yr plan to be here. So Sosua was used as a base for me, and not to be used as my only area to educate myself or hunting chicas down. Not to say it’s the right plan for most people, but it worked for me in that it offered me a lot of opportunities to meet Dominicans in places that Sosua would never be able to provide. However in Sosua I would only hang out in local gringo bars, make some friends in these places and move out to the country in order to meet some Dominicans, especially chicas that were not interested in Sosua. I would say within 2 months I started to experience the different reaction from locals and more importantly the confidence that I developed in being amongst the locals in places I knew I had to go to see the real DR. What I mean by this is when you’re in local bars, carwash, colmado, or restaurant outside of Sosua, Dominicans will generally look you over like they did me, but in most cases will not make you feel uncomfortable. You may find yourself thinking as I did as to what these Dominican where saying about me, or thinking like, why is he here? Then and only then you will learn how things are done here as well as basically improving your local senses. You’ll then start to notice that Dominicans don’t drink to get drunk, and in fact can take a ½ hr to finish off a grande. Chicas are not interested in you if you’re seen as a drunk unless you’re in Sosua where they have mastered “the money and run trick”. Be aware if you see a chica you like if other Dominicans are heavily checking her out as well in these local places. I made this mistake one too many times as you may want to rethink about stealing a local girl away from him. However, if you have established in the place you live here, or if the chica is very receptive then go 4 it. Never flash your tip to a local bar girl or waitress like you’ve got money to throwaway. I learned to place it in her palm w/ a smile either when I’m ready to leave, or if I buy a beer and get 5 pesos back. I’ve seen tourist buy a beer at 70 pesos, get 30 pesos back and give it to the girl. WTF, 40% tip and the girl doesn’t even smile and the guy doesn’t even get her number. Trust me while living here, throwing your money away in tips will never earn you any respect, it will only put you into the loco gringo class and not local gringo. These are just some of the Dominican customs that I mention because they were easy for me to see how the local do things, and at the same time made some of the differences in how you’re treated by locals. As far as Sosua, getting Dominicans to treat you differently will be based on who and how often you encounter them. If you go into say Playaro 2 to 4 times a week for one month, chances are very good most of the staff will know you’re living here. The same goes for banks, bars, beach vendors, where ever. Despite what people think about Dominican’s and their lack of education, they do have an amazing memory with names and faces, and I mean amazing. Just watch them play Dominoes and they can tell you every combination that’s been played.
#3 Gringo area: This really depends on you language skills and how confident you are in your environment. Yes it’s easier in the tourist areas to get started as I did not knowing any Spanish. But at some point I knew it would depend on what I wanted to get out of living here. The main advantage in the tourist areas is the services that are available and the ability of getting help if you need, i.e. medico, transportation system, friends w/ gringos, & others. The drawback is that you’re sometimes grouped w/ tourist gringos as the locals in this area can change almost daily. Even after 4 yrs. living here I still get approached by locals who think I’m a tourist. But also the upside is you can make some very good local contacts overtime that will support you as resident and provide you some very valuable information while living here.
#4 Chicas/Novias: The amount you dive into and the pace you go at it, really depends how important to you is quantity vs. quality and everything in between. What I have experienced is that the longer I’ve lived here the more I have changed as to how I look at these chicas, and the bullshit that comes w/ it. But the variety that one can obtain here will always outweigh the disadvantages. I guess you could ask yourself while living here; do I want to eat at the local favorite all you can eat buffet line and gain 30 pounds in the first 6 months? Or would I prefer to order from my favorite menu, and maybe have several desserts on the side? What is consistent here with some local gringos is yes they fuck other women while having a local novia. As you know being a tourist and will learn more by living here is it’s in your face and the availability is at every street corner. Then you add the payment factor most local gringos which are paying peanuts vs. what a tourist pays or nothing at all. I never wanted a novia when I first arrived as I was told it would tie me down with all the side issues that would come with being a local newbie. Well what happened to me was the opposite in what I planned for my first yr. However, I ‘m glad I didn’t listen to that advise as this stunner actually was one of the best things besides her pussy that happened to me. She ended up helping me get around this country and also spoke English and taught me a lot about the DR and the people in it. Now I was lucky to get a girl that had a very good job and saw Sosua as a cesspit which allowed me some freedom. However, I was not prepared what happened to me and what is very common here in what I call the jealous encounter from the third kind. Some guys I know have avoided this and after being here for awhile do have novias that have worked in Sosua. For the most part I think it’s easier to take the girl out of Sosua then it’s to take Sosua out of the girl. The other problem is when you dump a chica that works in Sosua, you will have a hell of a time avoiding her when going back into the city, as well as not knowing what she’s told her amigas about you. Then I know many more guys who enjoy the novia experiences only w/ girls from other parts i.e. STG/POP/SD and Badoo.com These relationships seem to work a little better, but can’t be compared to want normal is in other countries. The culture, education, and economical differences here will always be a facture in the vast majority of these girls, no matter how fucking good their pussy is. You will also experience as I have way too often when w/ a novia the “amigo factor”. This is the novia that tells you he’s only an amigo and we never had B4 or are having sex. These girls are no different than us guys, they’re masters at bending the truth, and more important to us they love to fuck. Now, there are many girls which you can meet that say work in a bank, office, or etc. and may be a bit different in how a relationship would develop. They’re in most cases living with their parents and may not be so eager to put out until they’re sure that you are only interested in a real relationship, and not an adventure. You’ll get asked like I have; how long you have lived here and how long will you be staying? They’ll also ask you about your family, back home and how you make your money. But don’t be fooled, these girls know the gringo sex scene and they will be a bit more suave in how and what they want from you, especially after they finally have given you their toto. I found that their families and amigas pressured them in getting pesos or things from me because I was seen as a rich gringo and that I should be paying in some way for the sex I was getting. But there are also ways to justify helping them and really at the end of that day you’re not really paying out a lot compared to back home, unless you get them pregnant.
Warning: These girls are the hardest ones to get rid of if you decide you want out.Especially when you consider how they or their amigas have been fucked up mentality by Dominican males over the sexual freedom that has existed here for many yrs. As for us gringos, we haven’t been here long enough to qualify in this class.
4 yr. residential report for the DR and for DMV……AMEN!
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You asked 4 it!:wink:
4 yr. residential report for the DR and for DMV……AMEN!
You went from Genesis to Revelation. Preach Bro Preach!!!!!
Teachers keep on teachin'
Preachers keep on preachin'
Gonna keep on tryin'
Till I reach my highest ground
Thank you for your post, a good insight on actually living there.
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Awesome Post Steviewonder.
Should be required reading.