Returning to the days of 50-1 ?????

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Originally Posted by Kevy

it is also a US territory, not a stand alone country, big difference.

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There are many dozens of Islands and most are not as cheap as DR.

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Originally Posted by Jimmydr

There are many dozens of Islands and most are not as cheap as DR.

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not as big and normally a former colony of a country that gave a shit about (I know I will regret this but) like England. Not easy to make comparisons like you are doing.

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Originally Posted by BigLongBeach

catch me up on this. Does Mejia have a chance of winning? Whenever i am driving around santo domingo (from santo domingo to Bani, and ocoa) all i see is billboards for Leonal and Danilo (same party right). I figured they were the ones w/the most money and support?
After re-reading the thread i recall all my friends who grew up in DR talking about Mejia (they called always referred to him by his 1st name). He was the guy who pretty much turned back the clock 50 years while in office? i dont know the whole history of presidents there. But from what i recall

leonal = the crook
hipolito = the old man who killed any progress or improvements

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They changed the constitution last year to ban consecutive Presidential runs. So Leonel Fernandez is out of the 2012 elections.

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Originally Posted by harlem hec

bring back the days of Balaguer

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Other than Trujillo, Balaguer was one of the most corrupt Presidents they ever had. He also orchestrated the defeat of the first true Black man to win the Countries nomination, Gomez Pena in 1994, through corruption and fraud! Balaguer was then ousted in 1996 before his term was up.

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Originally Posted by psriches

They changed the constitution last year to ban consecutive Presidential runs. So Leonel Fernandez is out of the 2012 elections.

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We really need a reason for much more begging.

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Originally Posted by psriches

Other than Trujillo, Balaguer was one of the most corrupt Presidents they ever had. He also orchestrated the defeat of the first true Black man to win the Countries nomination, Gomez Pena in 1994, through corruption and fraud! Balaguer was then ousted in 1996 before his term was up.

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The hippo was pretty corrupt, it has taken leonel this much time to clean up most of the mess.

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Originally Posted by psriches

Other than Trujillo, Balaguer was one of the most corrupt Presidents they ever had. He also orchestrated the defeat of the first true Black man to win the Countries nomination, Gomez Pena in 1994, through corruption and fraud! Balaguer was then ousted in 1996 before his term was up.

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I remember the entire Pena Gomez thing...I was about 10yrs old then and was appalled how everyone was in an uproar! they didnt want a president of haitian decent because they thought he would try amd unite the 2 countries

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Originally Posted by harlem hec

I remember the entire Pena Gomez thing...I was about 10yrs old then and was appalled how everyone was in an uproar! they didnt want a president of haitian decent because they thought he would try amd unite the 2 countries

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Right and then the next go round in 1996, the black man Pena Gomez won the first round but didn't get the 50% as required. Leonel came in 2nd.

But then for the run off election, 2nd place and 3rd place allied with each other to make sure Pena Gomez didn't get in. Those 2 parties hated each other but they allied together. I guess even a hated rival was better than having a BLACK man as your president. So Leonel Fernandez won!

Hay Dios Mio - la politica dominicana!! Un ladron sale del poder para que otro entre!

From what I saw last month, it looks like Dominicans have completely forgotten about the 4 year disaster of Hipolito. I was surprised at all the support he has. PLD doesn't have a good candidate because Leonel has quashed all competition and failed to prepare a successor and Hipolito has tapped into the "caudillo" strongman concept with "Llego Papa" (Daddy's Here!!). It might be the cultural difference, but if a candidate in the US publicly said that he's the father of the country and the voters were his kids, he'd be laughed out of a candidacy. In the DR, that shit works into the colony mindset. Don't forget, this is the same country that tried to sell itself to the USA numerous times and where the white people still refer to their "abuelos de Espana." The inferiority complex is shameful.

As far as the peso rate, bank on it going up. When there's global inflation, count on the DR having at least 2-4x worse inflation than the average.

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Originally Posted by psriches

Right and then the next go round in 1996, the black man Pena Gomez won the first round but didn't get the 50% as required. Leonel came in 2nd.

But then for the run off election, 2nd place and 3rd place allied with each other to make sure Pena Gomez didn't get in. Those 2 parties hated each other but they allied together. I guess even a hated rival was better than having a BLACK man as your president. So Leonel Fernandez won!

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Unfortunately, scenarios like this are all too common in Latin American countries, and the above scenario is rather tame in comparison to the stuff that often goes on backdoors. Shit, in Nicaragua, Ortega joined up with a guy about to go to jail for stealing $100 million as President and agreed to leave him alone in exchange for his party's support and ultimate election.

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Originally Posted by uncle ruckus

Hay Dios Mio - la politica dominicana!! Un ladron sale del poder para que otro entre!

From what I saw last month, it looks like Dominicans have completely forgotten about the 4 year disaster of Hipolito. I was surprised at all the support he has. PLD doesn't have a good candidate because Leonel has quashed all competition and failed to prepare a successor and Hipolito has tapped into the "caudillo" strongman concept with "Llego Papa" (Daddy's Here!!). It might be the cultural difference, but if a candidate in the US publicly said that he's the father of the country and the voters were his kids, he'd be laughed out of a candidacy. In the DR, that shit works into the colony mindset. Don't forget, this is the same country that tried to sell itself to the USA numerous times and where the white people still refer to their "abuelos de Espana." The inferiority complex is shameful.

As far as the peso rate, bank on it going up. When there's global inflation, count on the DR having at least 2-4x worse inflation than the average.

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Good observations.

I too am a little surprised at the current level of support that appears to be behind El Burro.

I have no doubt this will change once the PLD announces it candidate.

Meanwhile social networks are starting some good stuff.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlAxcZtn308"]YouTube - Llego tom k papa ni papa[/ame]

IMHO, the success is primary related to when Papa was able to devalue the peso to over 55 on avg. The general feeling is that it will increase the flow of tourist and investments into this country. Then there is the most important factor for low income families, the Western Union receipts. I know the argument about prices locally increases, but hey if a chica is getting say US$100 (RD3,750.00) from her WU novio now. Then after Papa is in she can get RD5,500 or more as well as her oversees novio will never have to increase his love payments.. Why would she not vote for Big Papi? It’s not like the price of Presidente or Brugal would increase under a new President.

My vote is :rofl: 69-1 :rofl:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4pbXCRemP4"]YouTube - Especial de Chuleta de cerdo Fresca a 69 pesos la libra este 11 y 12 de Febrero en el Bravo[/ame]