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If you haven’t heard the video of the shooting , its very sobering...UPDATED; at least 50 dead,200 injured
it is very sad and scary to know this is happening too much now..The guy is perched high above in Mandalay Bay shooting sounds like automatic weapon.
Gun man supposedly killed
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ay-Resort.html
Whynotme, you're not in Vegas now, are you?
(I see you thanked Kitie for the post. Obviously, you weren't one of the victims ... but beware those one-armed bandits ... :wink: )
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Originally Posted by kitie carson
Oh Shit!! With so many people losing their shirt over the years, something insane like this was bound to happen eventually. Glad they shot the fucker!
I believe he killed himself when the police breached the door. So insane! And the bastard that did this, no one can make sense of who/what he is.
As of 12 pm, PST, 58 dead and over 500 injured. But many of those in critical condition.
Too unspeakable for words.
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Originally Posted by Westy
luckily I am in Canada
I was there for the sept holiday weekend and this weekend I will be celibrating the Canadian thanksgiving in bkk and then hua hin and then finishing up in pattaya:corky:
How sad. How helpless we are to stop any of this madness. I have no answers.
The strange and scary thing about multi-millionaire real estate investor Stephen Craig Paddock, the 64-year-old Nevada resident who secretly hauled 10 or more rifles to the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay Resort in Las Vegas on Sunday before opening fire on concertgoers below, killing at least 59 and injuring more than 520, is that few if any of the details that have surfaced at this point play to type.
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Originally Posted by PapiQueRico
We are not helpless to stop a lot, not all of this madness. But because Congress are the bitch boys of the NRA, and gun lobbyists, it is true the madness will continue.
Yes truly sad, the ball less wonders that we call Congress!
From the internet, these are allegedly pictures of the dead shooter and the weapons he was using. You can see the cheap attachment on both weapons that convert them from a semi-automatic to a weapon that functions the same as an automatic.
http://news.insearchofchicas.org/for...6&d=1507050675
http://news.insearchofchicas.org/for...5&d=1507050487
Also visible in this picture is the hammer he used to break the windows.
http://news.insearchofchicas.org/for...7&d=1507051089
What I find amazing is this guy is said to have brought 10 suitcases to his suite.
And he was there for 4 days before this happened.
Seems like the people servicing his suite would have noticed something out of the norm unless he didn't allow anyone in there.
Truly a tragedy. Makes you wonder how someone that apparently flew so far under the radar could bring himself to commit such an awful act.
What really bothers me is the focus put on the shooters and not the real problem. If you permit almost anyone to buy semi-automatic weapons and amo it's enivitable that one of them is going to use those weapons to kill a bunch of people. There's not a lot of mystery to this.
Interesting twist - He wired 100K USD to his Phillipine girlfriends account in PI just last week....She was older so dont think he was mongering.....ouch....
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Originally Posted by Hunter
He was wealthy and that is what he choose:mad::mad::mad:
I'm appalled ... of course.
But ... is it appropriate for us to blame the gun(s)?
OR SHOULDN'T WE BLAME THE GUNNER?
(Incidentally, I don't OWN a gun!)
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Originally Posted by Westy
Definitely the crazed gunman is to blame.
But i agree that we probably need some restrictions on the types of guns that he had.
They serve no sporting purpose and really are only suited for the types of activities that he used them for.
Even if they were not legal he might have still got them anyway but at least it would have been more difficult to obtain.
I hope that the girlfriend can shed some light on this whole thing as I bet she has alot of knowledge and if she new what he was planning to do she is cupable as well.
It's absolutely not important why he shot those people. Like knowing why he did it is going to stop the next massacre. Folks it's just a diversion to distract us from demanding that certain weapons not be available for purchase. Blame the shooter, haha. No, I blame the society that permits a person to own 40 firearms some of which were semi-automatic and serve no purpose other than killing people in bunches. If you can't accept the use of the weapon as intended why permit them to be sold. Like it or not this individual simply exercised his constitutional right (as some folks see it) to murder a large number of his fellow citizens. No need to expend the energy trying to find out why he chose to do so.
I'm all for the upholding of the 2nd amendment but assault weapons with 30+ round clips are only meant for one thing....killing lots of people in a short span of time. They have no practical use in a civil society and anyone who thinks that citizens owning them is somehow protection against official corruption is delusional.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Sage
Gas action rifles should be banned in favor of lever and bolt action rifles which are perfectly adequate for hunting and sport shooting. The last "assault weapons ban" which allowed 3 of 5 of the "characteristics" of assault rifles (folding/ telescoping stock, bayonet mount, pistol grip, flash suppressor and grenade launcher.....grenade launcher for fuck sakes!). The 1994 AWB expired in 2004 and it wasn't replaced with a more sensible law simply banning direct impingement gas operated rifles which would have saved a whole lot of lives.
The problem is that the voters allow moneyed interests to outweigh public safety considerations and keep electing the same bought and paid for politicians to tap dance around life and death issues. Term limits would fix this. 3 for HOR and one for Senate. The career politician would be a thing of the past and public safety would replace re-election at the top of their list of priorities.
There are all sorts of things yet to come out of this investigation. And I have been reading the usual conspiracy theories that these types of things always seem to draw out on social media. I take those with a grain of salt.
From news reports I heard, this guy had passed the background check before taking ownership of his weapons. Investigators have said he doesn't fit the usual profile with others who have committed such atrocities. There is so much more that will be revealed in the coming days and weeks, so many questions that will need to be answered. Let the FBI, LVPD and Clark County Sheriff's Dept. continue to investigate and see where it leads.
I'm sure many of us have friends or relatives who live in LV. I know two people who live there and I was relieved when both txt me that they were ok. One guy who lives a half hour from me and was at that country music concert with family, was one of the victims. Neighbors have placed flowers and other memorabilia on his front yard as a makeshift memorial to him. I can imagine that scene being repeated in numerous neighborhoods in cities and towns where other victims lived.
Just wish the politicalization of this tragedy could at least wait until all the grieving family members can lay their loved ones to rest.
They deserve that consideration at the very least.
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Originally Posted by The Sage
The Plumber had many weapons and he said that he had bought 10,000 rounds on E bay.