Santo Domingo "Basic Skills Class"

[greydread]

All that groping watch out for dem pick pocket's there fast............

I shudder to think what they'd do to a "Girl House" puta who tried something like that. They're usually a lot fresher off the turnip truck than at most of the casas and many appear to be from out of town and staying on premises so the house has got them by the "balls". It would be waay too risky for them to fuck up by pick pocketing a customer. Why bother, anyway if they can get the bartender to do it legally? They will come out of the casa for $2,500RD but if you try to negotiate a TLN the price goes to more than double that. A buddy of mine who was a newbie payed a hefty bar fine on a very pretty Chica ($5,400RD for a "TLN") and she was trying to leave as soon as she got him off (with a handjob ) and when he threatened to go back and demand his money back she relented and stayed until morning but acted like she wanted nothing to do with him the whole time. Bitch had the nerve to hound him for propina in the morning....talk about breakfast humor...I almost laughed up an omlet when he told us her story at the breakfast "walk of shame" as he was on his way to find an ATM .

The "Girl House" is a place where you really have to use the force to find a good provider. I stick to new talent in there and always look for the quiet ones. The best way for a Chica not to get "chosen" for the night is to get up in my face when I walk in the door. I also always move straight to the bar which limits there access and maximizes my field of view. This is not a good place to negotiate "TLN" up front. Chicas like you, they'll stay, if they don't...... (see previous paragraph). Go for the cheap salida ($2,000 - $2,500RD depending on the time untill closing) and bet on the "come".

There were no customers in "Sky High" for a reason....It's SKY HIGH!

The only reason I go there is to check out the occassionally new talent. I have gotten the absofuckinglutely best PSE sex out of that place but I've also gotten the worst ever service from there as well. They are known for having some very pretty Chicas (8-9's) who can't or won't act right. They are also known for having an occassional rare gem (7-9) who will perform well enough to make a grown man cry. Seen.

[Cheeno]

I shudder to think what they'd do to a "Girl House" puta who tried something like that. They're usually a lot fresher off the turnip truck than at most of the casas and many appear to be from out of town and staying on premises so the house has got them by the "balls". It would be waay too risky for them to fuck up by pick pocketing a customer. Why bother, anyway if they can get the bartender to do it legally? They will come out of the casa for $2,500RD but if you try to negotiate a TLN the price goes to more than double that. A buddy of mine who was a newbie payed a hefty bar fine on a very pretty Chica ($5,400RD for a "TLN") and she was trying to leave as soon as she got him off (with a handjob ) and when he threatened to go back and demand his money back she relented and stayed until morning but acted like she wanted nothing to do with him the whole time. Bitch had the nerve to hound him for propina in the morning....talk about breakfast humor...I almost laughed up an omlet when he told us her story at the breakfast "walk of shame" as he was on his way to find an ATM .

The "Girl House" is a place where you really have to use the force to find a good provider. I stick to new talent in there and always look for the quiet ones. The best way for a Chica not to get "chosen" for the night is to get up in my face when I walk in the door. I also always move straight to the bar which limits there access and maximizes my field of view. This is not a good place to negotiate "TLN" up front. Chicas like you, they'll stay, if they don't...... (see previous paragraph). Go for the cheap salida ($2,000 - $2,500RD depending on the time untill closing) and bet on the "come".

There were no customers in "Sky High" for a reason....It's SKY HIGH!

The only reason I go there is to check out the occassionally new talent. I have gotten the absofuckinglutely best PSE sex out of that place but I've also gotten the worst ever service from there as well. They are known for having some very pretty Chicas (8-9's) who can't or won't act right. They are also known for having an occassional rare gem (7-9) who will perform well enough to make a grown man cry. Seen.

Very good points Greydread!!!

Most of the chicas at the Girl's House have Sundays off. So I ask them if we can hook up on the day that she does not work.

A TLN at the Girl's House is 5,000 pesos. If a customer shows up with a cab driver, then the girl gets only around 1,500 out of 5,000.

If a customer shows up without a cab driver, then the girl gets half of 5,000 (2,500). But they need to be back at the casa by a certain time. So there is a time constraint.

But if I see the girl on her day off, then there is no time contraint and I can pay her without paying a salida or house fee.

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I have the girl whisper her phone number into my ear. Or the girl will write her number on a piece of napkin and give it to me discreetly.

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The Sky House is a dead house. Only a few girls work here. I'd rather go to the Girl's House and choose among 40 girls.

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I have seen many guys show a sign of desperation when they enter these casas--They pick a girl within seconds, throw money around, yell and scream as if they have won the lottery, and obeys whatever the girls ask him to do.

There is a difference between "being a gentleman" and "being an idiot".

[El Capitan]

In almost 20 weeks of playing in SD, I have yet to set foot in the casas or "puta bars" as one of my ATFs calls them.....I still haven't finished working the streets yet!

I'm never there for quantity...and always look for quality in the friends I make....

[Cheeno]

In almost 20 weeks of playing in SD, I have yet to set foot in the casas or "puta bars" as one of my ATFs calls them.....I still haven't finished working the streets yet!

I'm never there for quantity...and always look for quality in the friends I make....

Which is why I recommend everyone to visit Santo Domingo!!!

There are sooooooooooooo many ways to meet women in Santo Domingo
--both pros and non-pros. The opportunities are endless.

For example,

• Casas
• Dealers and bartenders at the casinos
• College students
• McDonalds, Wendy's, Burger King, etc. You will see girls hanging out at a table. Just walk over and say "Hi"
• Metro and Caribe Tour bus stations
• Waitresses at the bars and restaurants
• El Conde
• Shopping Malls such as Acropolis, Bella Vista, etc.
• Parks
• Malecon Center or along the Malecon
• Nacional supermarket
• Hair Salon shops

The list goes on and on.....

Last but not least, "What happens in Santo Domingo, stays in Santo Domingo."

[greydread]

In almost 20 weeks of playing in SD, I have yet to set foot in the casas or "puta bars" as one of my ATFs calls them.....I still haven't finished working the streets yet!

I'm never there for quantity...and always look for quality in the friends I make....

I ain't trying to make friends in the casas. I already got friends...I'm in there looking for Punani the nastier, the better.

I agree, it's far more rewarding finding free range punani anywhere and everywhere in town but it takes a little longer and I tend to be way more shallow and superficial on vacation than I am in my real life so I go for the disposable brands....at least until the "novias" show up .

[greydread]

Which is why I recommend everyone to visit Santo Domingo!!!

The list goes on and on.....

Last but not least, "What happens in Santo Domingo, stays in Santo Domingo."

Bullshit.

I'm telling everything. This shit is way too much fun to be selfish with....and if they'll stop long enough to show some skin, I'm posting pictures.

[El Capitan]

I ain't trying to make friends in the casas. I already got friends...I'm in there looking for Punani the nastier, the better.

I agree, it's far more rewarding finding free range punani anywhere and everywhere in town but it takes a little longer and I tend to be way more shallow and superficial on vacation than I am in my real life so I go for the disposable brands....at least until the "novias" show up .

They are ALL disposable....even the ATFs (AnyTime Fucks)...as Cheeno says there are a lot of places in SD to find poonani....there's no such thing as a "novia"....No Via en Espanol = NO WAY en English.

[greydread]

They are ALL disposable....even the ATFs (AnyTime Fucks)...as Cheeno says there are a lot of places in SD to find poonani....there's no such thing as a "novia"....No Via en Espanol = NO WAY en English.

They're all potential "novias". Even if only momentarily. Hope springs eternal. Be a romantic. It's your vacation, loosen up. If she wants to think of herself as your one and only for the 2-3 nights you're together, what's the harm?

[El Capitan]

They're all potential "novias". Even if only momentarily. Hope springs eternal. Be a romantic. It's your vacation, loosen up. If she wants to think of herself as your one and only for the 2-3 nights you're together, what's the harm?

Dread...my ATFs do think and feel like my one and only...I treat them very well and I have stayed with one ATF for as long as 2 weeks at a clip...but deep inside my hollow chest lies a black heart that allows me to think of ME and my selfish enjoyment..

......my goal is never to fuck them and get out of there as cheap as I can...it is only to fuck them.........and get out of there.

I learned very young in life....if it floats, flys or fucks...it eventually gets old, needs maintenance or gets damaged beyond repair....when it happens you get a new one!

Novia....NO WAY

[greydread]

Dread...my ATFs do think and feel like my one and only...I treat them very well and I have stayed with one ATF for as long as 2 weeks at a clip...but deep inside my hollow chest lies a black heart that allows me to think of ME and my selfish enjoyment..

......my goal is never to fuck them and get out of there as cheap as I can...it is only to fuck them.........and get out of there.

I learned very young in life....if it floats, flys or fucks...it eventually gets old, needs maintenance or gets damaged beyond repair....when it happens you get a new one!

Novia....NO WAY

This is the beauty of a town as diverse and intense as Santo Domingo. For all of our (we who roam ISO punanific perfection) differences in taste, mannerism, likes and dislikes, we can all find just the right fit there. The "right fit" changes for me from one trip to the next and while the September trip saw me spending most of my time with one "novia" whom I felt very comfortable on lock down with, The November trip saw the man whore come out in me and I was too busy gathering up new specimens to even call any of the favoritas to let them know I was in town. I of course made up for this in January and in April I'd once again found the balance between the old and the new.

I would definitely do things differently if I were in a position in life to take off several weeks at a time for these travels. The real me would take over after the first couple days and the mad lecher would crawl back into the shadows as I settled into a rythm with maybe a favorita or two with just the occassional dalliance. I'd put a lot more effort into following through with planned activities, travelling to different parts of the country and seeing more of the sights.

It's funny. When I travel to other Caribbean destinations I am primarily there to enjoy aquatic activities and local culture, dine on excellent cuisine, smoke great cigars and generally doing what I refer to as "catching the rythm" of the island. If they've got Chica casas that's icing on the cake, not the purpose for my trip. Only in the D.R. do I lose my fucking mind and it starts as soon as I get off the plane and see the parade of Dominican hips. As much of a "water baby" as I am, there were a couple D.R. trips where I didn't make it to the beach even once. Every time I go there I have a plan and inevitably the plan gets blown to shit very soon after my arrival because some unforseen temptress or another will throw it on me and all cerebral activity shuts down and every day's plan becomes "er...let's just play it by ear".

El,

Your chest isn't as hollow as you pretend and you obviously understand that a good time shared is twice as good a time. I can understand your aversion to the term "novia" due to its constant misuse and misinterpretation so "ATF" is a reasonable replacement but at the end of the day, you don't treat your "ATF" much different than I treat a "novia" and apparently neither of us will allow the brevity of the term of the relationship to dilute its intensity. while it lasts

...like I said...there's something for everyone there. One of these days I hope to take my trips more than a week at a time and enjoy your perspective.

[prtyr2]

I have been back in town for almost a month and have not set foot in girls house nor have I even take a chica from there. Way too hard core. Sky High? Used to be ok when it was elegante etc.

Since being back I have been to:

Parada
GBP
MC
Tabu II
Cats
Casa Azul

Plus more "normal bars", like Mambo, Puro, Elegante Billar, Tronco, and the place that used to be Mascarada.

I have only taken out chicas from MC and GBP. The rest of my fun has been with semi pro or non pro. The sex with the non working girls is invariably better. Never underestimate how much the chica genuienely being into you factors into how great the sex can be.. . . .

Novia? Done it in the past and I am sure I will in the future. I never go looking for one. I enjoy life and if I meet one that is worth me giving up my single life. . .cool. . . .if not. . .also cool. . .

[greydread]

Novia? Done it in the past and I am sure I will in the future. I never go looking for one. I enjoy life and if I meet one that is worth me giving up my single life. . .cool. . . .if not. . .also cool. . .

Unfortunately this is the picture that the word "novia" generates in people's minds. This is the "fiancee" interpretation with assumed exclusivity. The problem is that I don't believe in monogamy. Unfortunately I don't believe that 75% of the people on this planet are capable of sustaining an exclusive relationship. In the Dominican Republic that percentage goes up to 95% of men and women between 18 - 35.

I prefer the interpretation of "novia" as a preferred intimate partner with whom one has more in common with and can share more than sex. Exclusivity is limited to an "as available" basis. I have a life, she has a life but when the opportunity arises we make room in our lives for one another and the only expectation is the pleasure of one anothers' company. I'll occasionally bring gifts because I can. I pay our way wherever we go because I can. I am honest about my feelings as well as my intentions and if and when that becomes insufficient for her (as has happened in the past) I will understand and relegate myself to "ex" duty.

The notion of a "novia" as a beautiful woman who will put her entire romantic life on hold in her prime for an occassional visitor who is willing to subsidize her meager existence in return for her undying devotion and sole sexual and emotional access to her is just fucking ridiculous.

I have an ex road dog who sends his "novia" $200, $300, sometimes $500 a month. He brings a check in bag full of shit for her and her 2 kids and other relatives 4-5 times a year. When he goes there she meets him at the airport and they go straight to the grocery store on the way to her apartment (which he pays for) in the barrio. She goes to work during the evenings as a car wash waitress (a.k.a. BJ giver) and he sits up in the apartment with no a/c sweating his balls off, watching TV in Spanish (which he refuses to learn, speaking in single words and hideously mispronouncing those) until her return. We met her in a puta casa 4 years ago. She was one of the putas. We have tried and tried to talk, embarass, yell some sense into this guy but he'd rather sit up in her shit hole apartment with the water and lights constantly going out while we are at the resort, at the beaches and at dining and entertainment venues all over town tossing punani and having a good time. His idea of "novia" and mine are completely different. Like I said...just fucking ridiculous.

[El Capitan]

monogamy.


I have an ex road dog who sends his "novia" $200, $300, sometimes $500 a month. He brings a check in bag full of shit for her and her 2 kids and other relatives 4-5 times a year. When he goes there she meets him at the airport and they go straight to the grocery store on the way to her apartment (which he pays for) in the barrio. She goes to work during the evenings as a car wash waitress (a.k.a. BJ giver) and he sits up in the apartment with no a/c sweating his balls off, watching TV in Spanish (which he refuses to learn, speaking in single words and hideously mispronouncing those) until her return. We met her in a puta casa 4 years ago. She was one of the putas. We have tried and tried to talk, embarass, yell some sense into this guy but he'd rather sit up in her shit hole apartment with the water and lights constantly going out while we are at the resort, at the beaches and at dining and entertainment venues all over town tossing punani and having a good time. His idea of "novia" and mine are completely different. Like I said...just fucking ridiculous.

Monogamy, ain't that a board game where you go 'round and buy real estate....get out of jail free and shit like that?

As far as the description of your "ex-road dogg"....that must be some prime poooooo-non-neeeeeee........

[greydread]

Monogamy, ain't that a board game where you go 'round and buy real estate....get out of jail free and shit like that?

As far as the description of your "ex-road dogg"....that must be some prime poooooo-non-neeeeeee........

There's no such thing as punani that good.....there's just Mothafuckas that sssstoooooppidd

[JD426]

I stick to new talent in there and always look for the quiet ones. The best way for a Chica not to get "chosen" for the night is to get up in my face when I walk in the door. I also always move straight to the bar which limits there access and maximizes my field of view.

This is my technique exactly, I choose HER, she does not choose me.And the quiet ones for me have given the best service and almost never ask for a Propina. So far it has worked flawlessly. The ones that jump in my lap when I walk in have just eliminated themselves.
wise advice as always Mr GreyD

[PapiQueRico]

I have an ex road dog who sends his "novia" $200, $300, sometimes $500 a month. He brings a check in bag full of shit for her and her 2 kids and other relatives 4-5 times a year. When he goes there she meets him at the airport and they go straight to the grocery store on the way to her apartment (which he pays for) in the barrio. She goes to work during the evenings as a car wash waitress (a.k.a. BJ giver) and he sits up in the apartment with no a/c sweating his balls off, watching TV in Spanish (which he refuses to learn, speaking in single words and hideously mispronouncing those) until her return. We met her in a puta casa 4 years ago. She was one of the putas. We have tried and tried to talk, embarass, yell some sense into this guy but he'd rather sit up in her shit hole apartment with the water and lights constantly going out while we are at the resort, at the beaches and at dining and entertainment venues all over town tossing punani and having a good time. His idea of "novia" and mine are completely different. Like I said...just fucking ridiculous.

Your buddy suffers from the classic male illness known as lack-of-blood-itis. Clearly, when the blood rushes to his dick to create a hard on, he does not have sufficient left to keep his brain working!!!

[Mad Mike]

I will be going on only my third trip to DR next week. I met a non-pro girl on my first trip that I really liked and we’ve been keeping in touch ever since. In her mind we are together and don’t see other people even though I tried to tell her in the beginning that we should be with other people.

When i travel to DR i like to mix it in between being with the Novia and being with the Pros. When im with the novia I kinda dig the fact that she asks me what I like and is very eager to please. I haven’t been with one American woman (paid or non Paid) that genuinely cared about what I wanted sexually, even my EX-Girlfriend who I was with for 6 fucking years!!!

I like how she can be my plaything in the bedroom and also something I can take with me when I go to relax on the beach or meetup with friends.

I like to DATY and DFK sometimes and I just cant get myself to do it with a pro, so by having a novia im able to do this kinds of things. I cannot tell you how good it feels to get a text or voicemail from one of these chics saying “I miss you papi”. My novia told me she’s worried I might get a heart attack the next time I see her because of all the surprises she has for me (including some kind of plan to fuck on the beach, yess!)

Now, I also like to balance my time with Pros as well. Sometimes you see something and you just have to smash it and they are good for this. I like how I can pay for and request exactly what I want at the time I am with a pro and then be done with them. No drama, no listening about their life story or other bullshit.

So just like anything in life, its nice to have a healthy balance.

But i highly recomend you get a novia or ATF, whatever you wanna call it.

[El Capitan]

I will be going on only my third trip to DR next week. I met a non-pro girl on my first trip that I really liked and we’ve been keeping in touch ever since. In her mind we are together and don’t see other people even though I tried to tell her in the beginning that we should be with other people.

When i travel to DR i like to mix it in between being with the Novia and being with the Pros. When im with the novia I kinda dig the fact that she asks me what I like and is very eager to please. I haven’t been with one American woman (paid or non Paid) that genuinely cared about what I wanted sexually, even my EX-Girlfriend who I was with for 6 fucking years!!!

I like how she can be my plaything in the bedroom and also something I can take with me when I go to relax on the beach or meetup with friends.

I like to DATY and DFK sometimes and I just cant get myself to do it with a pro, so by having a novia im able to do this kinds of things. I cannot tell you how good it feels to get a text or voicemail from one of these chics saying “I miss you papi”. My novia told me she’s worried I might get a heart attack the next time I see her because of all the surprises she has for me (including some kind of plan to fuck on the beach, yess!)

Now, I also like to balance my time with Pros as well. Sometimes you see something and you just have to smash it and they are good for this. I like how I can pay for and request exactly what I want at the time I am with a pro and then be done with them. No drama, no listening about their life story or other bullshit.

So just like anything in life, its nice to have a healthy balance.

But i highly recomend you get a novia or ATF, whatever you wanna call it.

I agree on the ATF...it works for me (or make them think they are an ATF)

Remember in the DR...you are never FIRST, never the one and only...YOU'RE ONLY THE NEXT!

[prtyr2]

I have done it before and may do it again. If I listed the best sex I ever had ex novias are all in top 10 including top 2.

As for your road dog. I am in a totally different situation. I would never have a working girl as a novia even though I have seen that work for others. I speak spanish and big shocker there are tons of girls here that are faithful.

I had been dating one girl and now we are sort of back on again. At one point we sort of agreed to move on and she aid she would help find me a novia if I found her a novio. I had a buddy down here in his late 20s and offered to intoduce. She said no thanks. . . .40 or over. . . . .and she was 23.

I have an amiga in italia that I spoke to this week and she met a guy she thinks is hot in Italy but won't date him because he is 26 and she is 22. She would rather stay at home with her vibrator. . . . . .which she uses a LOT. . . . lol.. .

In my experience I find that sex gets BETTER the longer I am with someone not worse or more boring. People are different. I think of sex as more of a 2 way street and I know for sure I am in the minority on this board. I won't even screw a girl till she came at least once, preferably more. The whole "tearing pussy out da frame", "mash that pussy" etc etc don't sound all that great to me. . . . .but everyone is different.

BTW, my attitude in that regard goes a long way down here because as Mr happy says most DR guys "fuck like chickens". . . .no foreplay. . . .just jump on and fuck. I enjoy driving them nuts and have them say "no mas" in regards to their orgasms rather than "are you done yet" in regard to mine. . .

Unfortunately this is the picture that the word "novia" generates in people's minds. This is the "fiancee" interpretation with assumed exclusivity. The problem is that I don't believe in monogamy. Unfortunately I don't believe that 75% of the people on this planet are capable of sustaining an exclusive relationship. In the Dominican Republic that percentage goes up to 95% of men and women between 18 - 35.

I prefer the interpretation of "novia" as a preferred intimate partner with whom one has more in common with and can share more than sex. Exclusivity is limited to an "as available" basis. I have a life, she has a life but when the opportunity arises we make room in our lives for one another and the only expectation is the pleasure of one anothers' company. I'll occasionally bring gifts because I can. I pay our way wherever we go because I can. I am honest about my feelings as well as my intentions and if and when that becomes insufficient for her (as has happened in the past) I will understand and relegate myself to "ex" duty.

The notion of a "novia" as a beautiful woman who will put her entire romantic life on hold in her prime for an occassional visitor who is willing to subsidize her meager existence in return for her undying devotion and sole sexual and emotional access to her is just fucking ridiculous.

I have an ex road dog who sends his "novia" $200, $300, sometimes $500 a month. He brings a check in bag full of shit for her and her 2 kids and other relatives 4-5 times a year. When he goes there she meets him at the airport and they go straight to the grocery store on the way to her apartment (which he pays for) in the barrio. She goes to work during the evenings as a car wash waitress (a.k.a. BJ giver) and he sits up in the apartment with no a/c sweating his balls off, watching TV in Spanish (which he refuses to learn, speaking in single words and hideously mispronouncing those) until her return. We met her in a puta casa 4 years ago. She was one of the putas. We have tried and tried to talk, embarass, yell some sense into this guy but he'd rather sit up in her shit hole apartment with the water and lights constantly going out while we are at the resort, at the beaches and at dining and entertainment venues all over town tossing punani and having a good time. His idea of "novia" and mine are completely different. Like I said...just fucking ridiculous.

[MrHappy]

Yeah, the "no mas" always kills me.. (also,"you're crazy", and "wait, I'm too sensative", which is a signal for "time to stick it in")

There are so many excellent points in this thread that I don't even know where to start.

Monagamy.... what's that? My better half, being Dominican, fully embraces the mindset of "Men have to have girlfriends". It's something that men just do.

I, in return, don't come home at 3 in the morning smelling like a french whore. Most of my extracurricular activity takes place during "long lunches" or afternoons off from work.

She has no problems with that at all, as long as it follows Clintons policy of "Don't ask, don't tell". It's not the kind of shit I come home to brag about. But even her mother and sister subscribe to the same theory. It's a Dominicana kind of thing.

And of course, so do my 2 main GFs.

As for Dreads bud, someday he'll wake up and smell the bacon. Any maybe his GF really does save it for him. Who knows? I know lots of chicks that work in Car Washes that DON'T entertain on the side. You can also find girls in bars that don't either. It seems like a lot of cashiers in most places are like that.

And the age thing........ It never ceases to amaze me after all of my years here, how girls simply are not interested in guys their age(with the exception of the rich and famous)

(I just wrote a whole book on this subject in this reply, then deleted it. Talk about rambling....)