WHY NEVER TO TIP< OVERPAY OR LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT

[continentalmike]

If you don't want to tip, don't tip.
Nothing wrong with that.

If you want to tip, tip.
Nothing wrong with that.

Some people like to tip and/or do gift bags and some people don't.
So what?

If you are haggling on the price with a freelancer then of course there is no need to tip, not that there ever is a need to tip.

For a place like La Passion where the prices are fixed and the chicas are only getting half or so of the fee, which is less than $20 for a massage and BJ, I am much more likely to tip for good service.
Although now that the chicas are no longer free to hang out and mingle before and after the session, I will probably be tipping less and going there much less.

I will tip chicas that I like cash and presents just like I will buy them drinks and food.
So what?

Sometimes I get the feeling that some people who don't tip want to make those who do tip feel bad by telling them that they are raising the bar/expectations and that the chicas think they are idiots.
For the most part the chicas may not be highly educated but they are not necessarily delusional and stupid and they can appreciate an extra bonus for what it is.
Even if some are delusional and stupid and expect this all the time from everybody, so what?
They will quickly see reality again.

I remember someone claiming that if someone pays a chica 5000 pesos for a ST, then all of the chicas will expect this every time from everybody.
This is total bullshit.

From your post it seems you still got your US hat on... that is fine in the US but other countries have other cultures.

Now we come here (at least partly) for the cheap and good toto... and we don't want that fucked up...

Now for you and a lot of other US tipping, pricing, etc guys here's a newsflash

IF WE WANT THE GOOD AND CHEAP TOTO TO CONTINUE THAN WE SHOULD KEEP IN PLACE THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT CREATED IT

LOW PRICING,
NO REGALOS,
NO TIPPING,
NO OK IF YOU WANT TO GIVE CBJ,
NO OK IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE HALFWAY THROUGH THE NIGHT WHEN ON A TLN MISSION...

THIS SHOWS A WEAK MONGER HAND AND THE GIRLS WILL FLEECE YOU DRY..

WHAT'S MORE THEY WILL TRY TO GIVE ME THE SAME LOUSY SERVICE NEXT TIME... SO DON'T THINK YOU'RE NOT STEPPING ON MINE AND EVERYONE ELSE'S BIZ WITH THIS WEAK ASS SHIT, BECAUSE YOU DO...

IF YOU AIN'T A GROWN MAN WHO CAN ABIDE BY THE RULES OF THE GAME DON'T PLAY IT..

YOU FUCKED UP THE US AS A REGULAR PUSSY COUNTRY DON'T REPEAT IT EVERYWHERE YOU GO..

[JD426]

AMEN BROTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was trying to be a little more "pc" on the other thread, but bottom line is.
We come here to Share experiences. if something doesnt work, it doesnt work, it dont matter how someone "feels" about it.

[LJDMV]

I always follow those rules.. Some of the chicas get a little upset by it but you got to do it.

[Jimmydr]

THIS SHOWS A WEAK MONGER HAND AND THE GIRLS WILL FLEECE YOU DRY..

WHAT'S MORE THEY WILL TRY TO GIVE ME THE SAME LOUSY SERVICE NEXT TIME... SO DON'T THINK YOU'RE NOT STEPPING ON MINE AND EVERYONE ELSE'S BIZ WITH THIS WEAK ASS SHIT, BECAUSE YOU DO...

IF YOU AIN'T A GROWN MAN WHO CAN ABIDE BY THE RULES OF THE GAME DON'T PLAY IT..

YOU FUCKED UP THE US AS A REGULAR PUSSY COUNTRY DON'T REPEAT IT EVERYWHERE YOU GO..

This is one of the major differences that I found in Colombia. They don´t assume we are all the same. They will treat the dumb ass as the dumb ass and the real monger as the guy that has his shit together.

[Jimmydr]

IF YOU AIN'T A GROWN MAN WHO CAN ABIDE BY THE RULES OF THE GAME DON'T PLAY IT..

YOU FUCKED UP THE US AS A REGULAR PUSSY COUNTRY DON'T REPEAT IT EVERYWHERE YOU GO..

These guys are here now, maybe 20% of the monger population and they don´t care.

[continentalmike]

I think I need to move to Colombia...

[Jimmydr]

I think I need to move to Colombia...

You had your chance and choose the life you have now.If you are happy, then you made the correct pick.

[Jimmydr]

So one day one of my amigas is telling me just how wealthy some Colombians are. He gave her 2,000,000 ($1,000) pesos to go out to his summer home for the week end. She goes on to tell me that just may be a once in a lifetime payout for her since he takes different chicas each time.

If this was a Dominican chica, her new asking price would be $1,000

[hugrad95a]

So one day one of my amigas is telling me just how wealthy some Colombians are. He gave her 2,000,000 ($1,000) pesos to go out to his summer home for the week end. She goes on to tell me that just may be a once in a lifetime payout for her since he takes different chicas each time.

If this was a Dominican chica, her new asking price would be $1,000

And she would be broke until she came down from that price.

[Marky]

The guy that earns the money decides how he spends his money. If he wants to pay over the odds, thats his choice. No one should tell him what to pay, they should only advise him

[bigtymer]

Thats Real Talk....

[Jimmydr]

The guy that earns the money decides how he spends his money. If he wants to pay over the odds, thats his choice. No one should tell him what to pay, they should only advise him

And then the great recession hits and guys that made millions a year are out of work and broke and have no idea how that happened.

[Si_Poppi]

WHAT'S MORE THEY WILL TRY TO GIVE ME THE SAME LOUSY SERVICE NEXT TIME... SO DON'T THINK YOU'RE NOT STEPPING ON MINE AND EVERYONE ELSE'S BIZ WITH THIS WEAK ASS SHIT, BECAUSE YOU DO...

Pure and utter bullshit.

If you get a poor performing chica, it isn't because someone else gave her a tip and/or a gift bag.
Plus these things are given AFTER the session, not before.

Even if an over paid, over tipped, over gifted chica does expect this to be the norm, so what?
She will quickly see and face reality.

[Si_Poppi]

LOW PRICING,
NO REGALOS,
NO TIPPING,

How about no drinks and no food, or at least no restaurants?
We don't want to spoil them and raise the bar now do we?

[JD426]

So one day one of my amigas is telling me just how wealthy some Colombians are. He gave her 2,000,000 ($1,000) pesos to go out to his summer home for the week end. She goes on to tell me that just may be a once in a lifetime payout for her since he takes different chicas each time.

If this was a Dominican chica, her new asking price would be $1,000

And she would do it with a straight face..
These busted face putas were asking for $300 USD at the Jaragua Casino in SD, years ago already, just cause some sucker paid it at one time. Unless u literally laugh at them, they will play it out to the end. Some chumps were even happy to settle for $200US thinking they got off easy. Maybe cause they could not afford the Drama. Talking freelancers, not top shelf chicas from some club.
Its a hustle.. Thats what they do.

[Si_Poppi]

NO OK IF YOU WANT TO GIVE CBJ,
NO OK IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE HALFWAY THROUGH THE NIGHT WHEN ON A TLN MISSION...

This I totally agree with.

[Si_Poppi]

So one day one of my amigas is telling me just how wealthy some Colombians are. He gave her 2,000,000 ($1,000) pesos to go out to his summer home for the week end. She goes on to tell me that just may be a once in a lifetime payout for her since he takes different chicas each time.

If this was a Dominican chica, her new asking price would be $1,000

So what?

High asking prices are nothing new nor are they relevant.

[Klockman]

This is my rule, works for me, I'm not saying you need to do it, but what I do is, I never negotiate

If a chica feels her time is worth $$$ and I don't, I simply pass, I don't want her to mark her services down, when she approached me she felt I would pay $$$, maybe it was something I did, or maybe my body language, either way, she had a chance to be reasonable and wasn't

So I tell the girls, if you want $$$, ask for it, but don't waste your time and mine seeing if I'm a sucker, many places I travel, I see often, I will remember you and I'll remember the lack of respect you showed me.

We have far too many choices to settle or pay more than we want, simply walk away

[Si_Poppi]

This is my rule, works for me, I'm not saying you need to do it, but what I do is, I never negotiate

If a chica feels her time is worth $$$ and I don't, I simply pass, I don't want her to mark her services down, when she approached me she felt I would pay $$$, maybe it was something I did, or maybe my body language, either way, she had a chance to be reasonable and wasn't

So I tell the girls, if you want $$$, ask for it, but don't waste your time and mine seeing if I'm a sucker, many places I travel, I see often, I will remember you and I'll remember the lack of respect you showed me.

We have far too many choices to settle or pay more than we want, simply walk away

I agree with this for chicas who are ridiculous but for chicas who simply start at the upper end of the range and then choose to come down to the mid-range average, I have no problem with that.

I am the same way with the vendors.
I let them know they have one chance to make the sale.
If they are ridiculous I will walk and never say how much I pay.
If they are reasonable, I will either pay, let them become more reasonable, or tell them how much I pay.

[Klockman]

I agree with this for chicas who are ridiculous but for chicas who simply start at the upper end of the range and then choose to come down to the mid-range average, I have no problem with that.

I am the same way with the vendors.
I let them know they have one chance to make the sale.
If they are ridiculous I will walk and never say how much I pay.
If they are reasonable, I will either pay, let them become more reasonable, or tell them how much I pay.

I don't want anyone to do anything they don't want to do, if a chica wants $80 to go with me, she needs to ask for $80. Drinking beer with me and rubbing herself all over me and trying to convince me that she's worth $120 isn't going to work. Chances are very good that if I'm interested at $80, she's getting beers, meal and a tip if she blows me away. If I don't respect myself, she won't either.

If a girl thinks I'm a sucker or on my first trip, I'm not rewarding her.

Likes I says, my system might not work for everyone, but I'll tell you that it works very well in Colombia and Costa Rica, and when a girl sees me several times, she knows that I know the going rate, so if she wants to hit a home run, someone else can pitch to her.

not me.