10/2012 - Club X reopening?

[deezl]

as posted on El Flow's fb page - Club X reopening on November 3rd

Okay, maybe I just have no understanding of 'business' but I find it amazing that in an economic and (massive) tourism downturn on the North Coast and (possibly even more particularly) in Sosua over the last year+ that someone bought and remodeled Latino's, Willie built El Cultivo/POP Bar/D'Latin D'Nombre D'Estupido, they gutted and remodeled the bar on the side street by Winner's Circle (when it looked fine before, just had no customers), Seacrets is being redone, and a new casa 'Hollywood Nights' (on the spot of the horrible failure Banana's stripclub/whatever) is ready to open...

Where do these people think they're going to get business from?

[JD426]

Viva Ecke Cluuu...!!!!!

[LJDMV]

The flights into POP are going there full on most days from MIa. I am sure it is similar from NY and EWr.

[deezl]

The flights into POP are going there full on most days from MIa. I am sure it is similar from NY and EWr.

the MIA-POP flights are probably full because MIA is the stopover for all POP-bound AA flights in the US.

United cut their slow travel season (Sept-Oct) EWR-POP flights down to one a week (Saturday) - that's down from 3 flights a week last year.

Look on the board at POP and you'll see 4 flights coming in daily, jetBlue out of JFK, AA out of Miami, and one flight each out of Toronto & Montreal.

Regardless, there hasn't been enough business in Sosua to support half the venues that are already open, there are a handful of places that always do good business but most everyone else seems to be hurting right now.

[jose1234]

I think the "Hollywood Nights" club will be a bit expensive and market itself as an exclusive type place catering to guys who fly here and want more of a private experience, but also have that strip club feel... The concept will be that guys can buy lap dances and also take chicas to private rooms. More than likely it will not work and then try to compete on a more price sensitive level, somewhere in the middle of Passions and CMP, where it is also located.

What is most important for Sosua is the experience people who come here have and that includes where they drink and party as well as where they stay...all wrapped up in a level of percieved safety. I don't know how the town will support all the bars, but we must see increased flights here (I agree).

[sopranostingray]

Yep Deezl I just don't get it. Don't forget the new restaraunt/bar opening in the old Harrison Jewels building. This is going to be a very interesting high season. Dlatin is actually doing the best business in the last 5 days, as far as people being in the bar. Willie lowered his prices. The place is huge with about 10 tv's and lot's of air flow now. I can see El Toro closing either during or right after high season and I doubt the old seacrest will do much...maybe a different crowd down that way.

[sopranostingray]

I think the "Hollywood Nights" club will be a bit expensive and market itself as an exclusive type place catering to guys who fly here and want more of a private experience, but also have that strip club feel... The concept will be that guys can buy lap dances and also take chicas to private rooms. More than likely it will not work and then try to compete on a more price sensitive level, somewhere in the middle of Passions and CMP, where it is also located.

What is most important for Sosua is the experience people who come here have and that includes where they drink and party as well as where they stay...all wrapped up in a level of percieved safety. I don't know how the town will support all the bars, but we must see increased flights here (I agree).

I give Hollywood Nights about 6 months max. Nothing stays open in that buidling and I question the business model. How can somebody want to compete with Passions??? Peter runs a great business with very little flaws so it's hard to better him.

[SeaWeed]

Where do these people think they're going to get business from?

no business plan=failure
and
no customers=failure
and
no flights=failure
and
then you have a ghost town

[Seville]

The few times I have been in Willie's place at night it looks crowded from the street but when you go in most of the people are chicas just sitting there. You know they aren't spending any money.

I couldn't agree more. Not enough people to support what is already here and yet people have remodeled, reopened and rebuilt. And paying for a lap dance in this country is beyond my comprehension.

[WickedWillie]

Judging by the sponsors it would appear the El Flow owners are behind it. Wear kevlar.

[weyland]

The usual story about expensive new businesses in the DR that looked doomed to fail, or break even at best, is that they exist to wash money. Obviously true in some cases but I don't know in how many. Probably the rest are down to the well-known Dominican insane optimism. You do something stupid five times and get hurt, so somehow if you do it a sixth time it will turn out wonderfully.

[Gutter Meat]

Where is Hollywood Nights located ?

[Irie]

Where is Hollywood Nights located ?

It's a few blocks from LPs on PC heading back west towards the main strip. Same side of the road as LPs.

[MrHappy]

Competition is a wonderful thing.

[el toro]

The usual story about expensive new businesses in the DR that looked doomed to fail, or break even at best, is that they exist to wash money. Obviously true in some cases but I don't know in how many. Probably the rest are down to the well-known Dominican insane optimism. You do something stupid five times and get hurt, so somehow if you do it a sixth time it will turn out wonderfully.

My exact method when it comes to gambling in the casino, but obviously not a good business plan.

[Gutter Meat]

Can anyone report if club X is open ??

[Talis]

Can anyone report if club X is open ??

It was open a couple of weeks ago.. The number of customers was about the same as when it was not open.

[eldorob]

It was open a couple of weeks ago.. The number of customers was about the same as when it was not open.

So they could have saved the money on the remodel, and had the same "profit".

They have no business plan. People opening/remodeling bars on the north coast is like musical chairs. They hope they're the ones with a successful & busy bar when the next plane load lands or the next High season comes. But few make it, they close the doors, and the next buyer comes along. It's really kind of pathetic.

[Apos]

I went in one night with a buddy, for about 12 seconds.....no one in there that I'd care to hang with and less than 10 people in total. This was about 12ish one night. Place looked decent though.....but empty

[Gutter Meat]

Thanks for the update.