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    Re: 05/2017 - High Caribbean Disco

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Smooth View Post
    For the vets on here who go back to before 2007, what was the formula that made High Caribbean the apparent success it was back then? From what has been written here, it seems the location wasn't a negative as far as the chicas and gringos were concerned. Looks like it was the place to go. Was this before Classicos and Merengue were up and running?

    I first came to Sosua in 2007, so I guess I just missed out on some good times back then.
    Yes, it was just before Classicos and Merengue as snoozer indicated. I also remember a larger carnival like atmosphere in front of Europa Hotel. So there were plenty of chicas and mongers already on that side of town.

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    Re: 05/2017 - High Caribbean Disco

    Hi Carib will have to do something special & out of the ordinary to survive. A smoke machine is not going to cut it. Some quality looking bartenders & servers is a good place to start.

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    Idea Re: 05/2017 - High Caribbean Disco

    Once City Hall/The Major/Tourismo in SD or wherever the orders really come from decides that it's time they'll close Merengue and Clasico and perhaps some other places like City Lights and maybe even some of the smaller bars driving the chica action "east" leaving nowhere else to go but HC and perhaps the Playa Chiquita Casino.

    Eventually other places will open or reopen or be built. They've been talking about this for "decades" (pre 2004 for sure) and it's all about to fall into place.

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    Re: 05/2017 - High Caribbean Disco

    Things could be coming to an end sooner rather than later

    For some unknown reason one of the partners not named AD apparently decided to cut all of the Haitian workers loose today.

    Likely business suicide as most of the Dominican workers left as well. Not sure what the current thought process is there.

    Guess it was an early night at the High C.


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    Re: 05/2017 - High Caribbean Disco

    Quote Originally Posted by j_d66 View Post
    Why don't you think the locals will like the place?

    I think it will help once they get the food going

    As I recall Rancho Tipico started out pretty slowly and seemed to be pretty heavily occupied by locals before it got shut down.

    They probably have to many waitresses right now but if the place ends up packed on a consistent basis they will probably need them.
    True that Rancho Tipico started slow but at that time he could survive because the rent he was paying was very low.. second, the reason why it took long it is because Rancho Tipico was a new formula and it took a while for the locals to understand it and appreciate it. Then Ad, because of Rancho Tipico, created a winning appeal to the locals that followed him right away when he opened City lights.. then High Caribbean opened and the first night was busy but, based on what I heard, locals are not that excited about it because it is enclosed and kind of too clubby for the kind of athmosphere they are looking for. That is why City Lights still works well, even though last night was deserted... I will go back to High Caribbean tomorrow ( if it is open) and we will see how it is...
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    Re: 05/2017 - High Caribbean Disco

    Quote Originally Posted by ElCristo View Post
    True that Rancho Tipico started slow but at that time he could survive because the rent he was paying was very low.. second the reason why it took long it is because Rancho Tipico was a new formula and it took a while for the locals to understand it and appreciate it. Then Ad because of Rancho Tipico created a winning appeal to the locals that followed him right away when he opened City lights.. then High Caribbean opened and the first night was busy but, bas d on what I heard, locals are not that excited about it becuse it is enclosed and kind of too clubby for the kind of athmosphere they are looking for. That is why City Lights still works well, even though last night was deserted... I will go back to High Caribbean tomorrow ( if it is open) and we will see how it is...
    Good points

    Be interesting to see how things work there going forward and if the current management will be able to provide the type of place people will want to go to.

    I have my doubts

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    Re: 05/2017 - High Caribbean Disco

    I was there last night between 11:30 pm and 1 am. When I walked in there was just one table with 2 people ( one client and his whore) then around midnight another one with 4 people walked in.. so in total for the whole time there were 8 clients ( including me and my chica)... it was thursday night so the beginning of the weekend.. I don't think after I left (1 am) much changed so rough beginning for this place..
    I counted 19 staff people

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    Re: 05/2017 - High Caribbean Disco

    Quote Originally Posted by ElCristo View Post
    I was there last night between 11:30 pm and 1 am. When I walked in there was just one table with 2 people ( one client and his whore) then around midnight another one with 4 people walked in.. so in total for the whole time there were 8 clients ( including me and my chica)... it was thursday night so the beginning of the weekend.. I don't think after I left (1 am) much changed so rough beginning for this place..
    I counted 19 staff people
    Was the staff all Dominican?

    I assume AD was not present

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    Re: 05/2017 - High Caribbean Disco

    Quote Originally Posted by ElCristo View Post
    I was there last night between 11:30 pm and 1 am. When I walked in there was just one table with 2 people ( one client and his whore) then around midnight another one with 4 people walked in.. so in total for the whole time there were 8 clients ( including me and my chica)... it was thursday night so the beginning of the weekend.. I don't think after I left (1 am) much changed so rough beginning for this place..
    I counted 19 staff people
    Thats all??

    You get more people at a Dennys at 4 am!

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    Re: 05/2017 - High Caribbean Disco

    Quote Originally Posted by j_d66 View Post
    Was the staff all Dominican?

    I assume AD was not present
    There were 2 Haitians and Ad was not present, no idea why.
    Do you know?

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    Re: 05/2017 - High Caribbean Disco

    Quote Originally Posted by ElCristo View Post
    There were 2 Haitians and Ad was not present, no idea why.
    Do you know?
    Well kinda

    There apparently was some kind of blow out and drama the other night and most if not all of the Haitians were fired

    When all was said and done all the Dominican waitresses and AD left as well.

    Sounds like either some if not all of the Dominicans decided to return or they were all replaced.

    20 Dominicans is about what they started with.

    Was wondering if AD came back as I am hearing he might be trying to get things going at Rancho Tipico again

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    Re: 05/2017 - High Caribbean Disco

    Quote Originally Posted by j_d66 View Post
    Well kinda

    There apparently was some kind of blow out and drama the other night and most if not all of the Haitians were fired

    When all was said and done all the Dominican waitresses and AD left as well.

    Sounds like either some if not all of the Dominicans decided to return or they were all replaced.

    20 Dominicans is about what they started with.

    Was wondering if AD came back as I am hearing he might be trying to get things going at Rancho Tipico again
    Gosh he has the temper of a 4 years old toddler.. Maybe one day he should try for the Presidential election?

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    Re: 05/2017 - High Caribbean Disco

    It is low season. Lot of places are DEAD now....So you really need to give it a year and then fish or cut bait. I agree with Smooth in that sure seems like a Wed-Sat type place. They do that in Negril in low season. Jungle is only open 2 days a week. Thursday and Saturday....

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    Re: 05/2017 - High Caribbean Disco

    Quote Originally Posted by j_d66 View Post

    Was wondering if AD came back as I am hearing he might be trying to get things going at Rancho Tipico again
    He is,he recently posted a question on his Rancho Tipico FB page asking if anyone wants to see Rancho open again and seeing as there is a "for rent" sign on the place my guess is you will see it reopened by him. The soap opera continues,lol.

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    Re: 05/2017 - High Caribbean Disco

    Quote Originally Posted by quietcorner911 View Post
    He is,he recently posted a question on his Rancho Tipico FB page asking if anyone wants to see Rancho open again and seeing as there is a "for rent" sign on the place my guess is you will see it reopened by him. The soap opera continues,lol.
    Pretty much a certainty if he can find the financial backing to get it going again.

    Might be a tough sell to find investors knowing that at anytime the thing could be shut down and they lose everything.

    But the basic structure is in place so seems like it shouldn't take a real large investment to getting going again

    There was something about the charm of that place.

    Maybe it was the open air feel.

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    Re: 05/2017 - High Caribbean Disco

    Quote Originally Posted by j_d66 View Post
    Pretty much a certainty if he can find the financial backing to get it going again.

    Might be a tough sell to find investors knowing that at anytime the thing could be shut down and they lose everything.

    But the basic structure is in place so seems like it shouldn't take a real large investment to getting going again

    There was something about the charm of that place.

    Maybe it was the open air feel.
    Yes, that place was the best of the bunch and I believe Ad can make it working well once again.
    My only question is: "why does he need financial support to open Rancho Tipico?"
    I don't believe he need a lot of money to make it running..
    He did not save anything from his previous run? Jesus he must have made a killing with two years of Rancho Tipico..And he was there the whole time so how did he waste all those money? Maybe Ad has European sense of business but Dominican way of handling money?

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    Re: 05/2017 - High Caribbean Disco

    Perhaps Ad is simply smart enough not to risk his own money. Not a bad precaution considering how much scrutiny he must be under, how many times and how quickly he and his businesses have been closed in the past

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    Re: 05/2017 - High Caribbean Disco

    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    It is low season. Lot of places are DEAD now....So you really need to give it a year and then fish or cut bait. I agree with Smooth in that sure seems like a Wed-Sat type place. They do that in Negril in low season. Jungle is only open 2 days a week. Thursday and Saturday....
    I know we went through this before, but when exactly is low season? I've been going to DR for 14 years and I don't ever see any changes on that street. Maybe certain special weekends, but never an entire season. In your opinion, do you think mongers only travel during certain times of the year?

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    Re: 05/2017 - High Caribbean Disco

    Quote Originally Posted by ElCristo View Post
    Yes, that place was the best of the bunch and I believe Ad can make it working well once again.
    My only question is: "why does he need financial support to open Rancho Tipico?"
    I don't believe he need a lot of money to make it running..
    He did not save anything from his previous run? Jesus he must have made a killing with two years of Rancho Tipico..And he was there the whole time so how did he waste all those money? Maybe Ad has European sense of business but Dominican way of handling money?
    I don't know exactly but when he got shut down last time I heard it cost him big time in fines and payments etc

    Plus some other things may have made it a little more difficult financially for him

    If you read between the lines I don't think he has had all that much personal skin in the game in his last two ventures at City Lights and High C.

    If he did he would have a whole lot more control and likely still be at those places

    He who controls the checkbook tends to control what is going on

    As we pretty much all know the DR is so full of corruption and there are many who will take advantage whenever they can.

    Ultimately I think he will have more success in a smaller venture like Rancho Tipico especially if he can be allowed to manage it in the manner that he would like.

    Sure he is tough on his staff but if you pay attention, there are staff who work hard for him and staff who are lazy and the staff who work hard will follow him wherever he goes because they know at the end of the day he will provide them stable employment and treat them fairly.

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    Re: 05/2017 - High Caribbean Disco

    Quote Originally Posted by psriches View Post
    I know we went through this before, but when exactly is low season? I've been going to DR for 14 years and I don't ever see any changes on that street. Maybe certain special weekends, but never an entire season. In your opinion, do you think mongers only travel during certain times of the year?

    I haven't been going there all that long but I would agree there really isn't much of a high and low season anymore.

    I think the winter months is what they normally would call high season but not because there are more mongers there just more people in general that are looking to get away from colder winter weather especially in Canada

    The people who are there every day know better but it has become clear to me that there are just way less monger types traveling to the POP/DR area.

    Used to be that plane to and from MIA would be more than half full with the single male traveler. Now the planes are still full but there are only a handful of those types of travelers on the plane and it is mostly couples and groups headed to destinations other than Sosua.

    I think for the monger there are forces beginning to come into play that are making Sosua a less desirable destination and other places are becoming the destination of choice

    Sosua had one thing going for it in that it is a short trip for most in the midwest and east coast. With reasonable airfare and cheap food and hotel choices as well as reasonable demands of the chicas.

    What I am starting to see is hotel prices starting to creep up with some places becoming less guest friendly, food prices definitely going up and chicas that are consistently demanding a greater price.

    Combine that with fewer places to hang out and Sosua has started to become somewhat boring.

    Airfare has seemed to remain pretty constant but it has dropped significantly to other destinations such as SEA.

    I know if I can fly to SEA for the same price as I can fly to Sosua I am headed to SEA as the whole experience is better. Cheaper and nicer hotels and way better food combined with lots of fun destinations.

    Sosua will never totally die but it does look like things are not what they used to be but perhaps that is not such a bad thing either.

    One thing is for certain the pfp world is not going away anytime soon cause there are so little options for meaningful employment there and no real effort is being made to significantly change that.

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