Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: 05/2017 - American Airlines is cutting more legroom in economy class

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Shaolin
    Age
    39
    Posts
    13,420
    Thanks
    11,884
    Thanked 26,874 Times in 6,114 Posts

    05/2017 - American Airlines is cutting more legroom in economy class

    SEATTLE — Just when you thought your legroom in economy class couldn’t get tighter.
    American Airlines is planning to decrease the front-to-back space between some of its economy class seats by another two inches.
    The airline says it plans to add more seats on its coming Boeing 737 Max jetliners. To do that, it will shrink the distance between seats, also known as pitch, from 31 inches to 29 inches on three rows of the airplane, and down to 30-inches in the rest of its main economy cabin.
    American isn’t the only big airline heading in this direction. United Airlines is considering a similar move, according to a person briefed on its evaluations. United declined to comment.
    The move signals a new step in the shrinking of U.S. airline cabins, and comes even as carriers are promising to improve overall customer service.
    With the change, American will become the first large U.S. carrier to offer legroom with a pitch that’s nearly on par with ultra-low cost carriers Spirit Airlines and Frontier Airlines. Those seats are an industry minimum 28-inches apart.
    By comparison, economy class pitch on Delta Air Lines and United ranges between 30 and 31 inches, while JetBlue Airways, Southwest Airlines and Alaska Airlines have between 31 and 33 inches.
    The one advantage the big U.S. carriers still have over their lowest-fare rivals was a few more inches in economy.
    The bathrooms on American’s 737 Max jets will also be smaller, one person familiar with the planning said.
    The new Max jets will have more than 170 seats, two sources said, compared to 160 on its existing 737-800s. The airline said it is keeping its extra-legroom ‘Main Cabin Extra’ economy seats, as well as its 16 first class seats.
    These new single-aisle aircraft will go into use later this year and will primarily be flown on routes in North America.
    Fliers will still pay regular economy fares for the 18 seats with two inches less leg room. Two of those three rows of 29-inch pitch will be in the back of the plane and a third farther forward. These seats won’t be part of its new basic economy fares, which sell for less because fliers don’t get access to overhead bins, a seat assignment or frequent flier miles.
    An American spokesman said the airline will add 40 Max jets to its fleet by the end of 2019. It has 100 on order. The airline also said it might make similar changes to its existing fleet of 737-800s after the Max arrives, but no decisions have been made.
    The tighter legroom may mean that some corporate travel agents who avoid ultra-low cost airlines will balk at American, said Henry Harteveldt, founder of the Atmosphere Research Group.
    As the big airlines match each other move for move, the risk is that 29 inches becomes the standard for flying economy in the United States. American has been a bellwether before for the airlines. For instance, it was the first big U.S. airline to introduce bag fees in 2008.
    Airlines have enjoyed strong profits and low fuel fuel prices after a decade of consolidation. They’re adding seats now to help offset rising employee wages.
    “This is one of the best economic environments the U.S. airline industry has seen in decades,” said Harteveldt. “There is no need to race to the bottom.”

    http://wreg.com/2017/05/02/american-...economy-class/

  2. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to knotty For This Useful Post:


  3. # ADS
    Our Supporters Support our advertisers!
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    Age
    2010
    Posts
    Many
    Medellin Luxury Apartments
     
  4. #2
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Age
    52
    Posts
    2,223
    Thanks
    110,347
    Thanked 16,053 Times in 2,214 Posts

    Re: 05/2017 - American Airlines is cutting more legroom in economy class

    Next step is to have a standing arrangement where they will find some ingenious way to buckle us up. Those will be the real cheap seats.
    I think thats why it makes sense to get status on one Airline and try to stick to it.. At least you have a chance to upgrade to the economy plus section with a little more legroom and pitch.

  5. The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to CentralNJDude For This Useful Post:


  6. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    The Old Dominion
    Posts
    15,452
    Blog Entries
    13
    Thanks
    57,060
    Thanked 93,538 Times in 14,665 Posts

    Re: 05/2017 - American Airlines is cutting more legroom in economy class

    Until passengers collectivize and vote with their asses the state of air travel will continue to decline. We need to pick out the worst abusers of passengers' rights and boycott them. Let them fly at 60% capacity for a quarter and I guarantee this trend will turn around when the shareholders hit the ceiling.
    Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
    - Benjamin Franklin

  7. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to greydread For This Useful Post:


  8. #4
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Chesapeake Bay
    Age
    63
    Posts
    6,630
    Thanks
    34,872
    Thanked 44,392 Times in 6,565 Posts

    Re: 05/2017 - American Airlines is cutting more legroom in economy class

    Quote Originally Posted by CentralNJDude View Post
    I think thats why it makes sense to get status on one Airline and try to stick to it.. At least you have a chance to upgrade to the economy plus section with a little more legroom and pitch.
    That's why I'm sticking with American -- and I'm going to make sure I fly enough "Elite Qualifying Miles" and spend enough "Elite Qualifying Dollars" to stay in AAdvantage Platinum status, with complementary "Main Cabin Extra" (longer-pitch) seating.
    I'm still "Just A Lurker."



  9. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Westy For This Useful Post:


  10. #5
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Age
    52
    Posts
    4,445
    Thanks
    31,974
    Thanked 35,440 Times in 4,286 Posts

    Re: 05/2017 - American Airlines is cutting more legroom in economy class

    Guess those premium econ seats will be the first to sell out on any domestic flight over 2 hours. If you are a person 6 ft or taller, 250 lbs or more, how can you even contemplate sitting in a new standard economy seat once these new seat pitch guidelines take effect?

    And if it's a coast to coast flight and I am unable to book with Jet Blue, then I will definitely pay that econ plus additional fare. Last I checked on AA, an aisle seat in economy plus was $85 for a Miami-LAX or SFO flight.

    From the time you board and sit your ass down, that 5 hour flight is closer to 6 hours of seat time with having to be pushed away from the gate and waiting in line for take off. That works out to about $14 extra dollars per hour on that plane. At my height, weight.......and age........I'll pay the added freight to fly in a modicum of comfort. It's worth it to me.

  11. The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to Mr. Smooth For This Useful Post:


  12. #6
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Santo Domingo
    Age
    65
    Posts
    14,555
    Blog Entries
    1
    Thanks
    277,552
    Thanked 76,199 Times in 12,608 Posts

    Re: 05/2017 - American Airlines is cutting more legroom in economy class

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Smooth View Post
    Guess those premium econ seats will be the first to sell out on any domestic flight over 2 hours. If you are a person 6 ft or taller, 250 lbs or more, how can you even contemplate sitting in a new standard economy seat once these new seat pitch guidelines take effect?

    And if it's a coast to coast flight and I am unable to book with Jet Blue, then I will definitely pay that econ plus additional fare. Last I checked on AA, an aisle seat in economy plus was $85 for a Miami-LAX or SFO flight.

    From the time you board and sit your ass down, that 5 hour flight is closer to 6 hours of seat time with having to be pushed away from the gate and waiting in line for take off. That works out to about $14 extra dollars per hour on that plane. At my height, weight.......and age........I'll pay the added freight to fly in a modicum of comfort. It's worth it to me.

    Same here. I pay for that first row exit seat the moment I know I'm flying. Don't have to think twice about it.
    If you think it's love? Try not paying in the morning..

    "Do not regret growing older. It is a privilege denied to many."

  13. The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to MrHappy For This Useful Post:


  14. #7
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    ontario
    Posts
    24,575
    Thanks
    90,412
    Thanked 125,979 Times in 21,738 Posts

    Re: 05/2017 - American Airlines is cutting more legroom in economy class

    Quote Originally Posted by MrHappy View Post
    Same here.
    I pay for that first row exit seat the moment I know I'm flying.
    Don't have to think twice about it.
    I just booked my oct Thailand trip and it was $1477 for economy plus
    so since I still had 2 gpu's (global premier upgrades) I checked the website for upgradeable fares and found one close to my desired outgoing date but the return date took a awhile to find one that wasn't wait listed........... but since I didn't have anything else to do I persevered and found one

    and it was only $1496 cnd so for under 20 bucks extra and my 2 gpu's its lay flat seats for Canadian thanksgiving.......thanks eh
    you only live once, but if you live it right once is enough


  15. The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to whynotme For This Useful Post:


Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •