Channel 4 filming in Sosua (Documentary)

[Gutter Meat]

Channel 4 camera crew active in Sosúa

Over the past weekend a camera crew from the English TV station Channel 4 has been busy filming in Sosúa. The crew mostly focused on the town's nightlife, by filming in various discos and bars. The Channel 4 documentary will be broadcast sometime around the middle of June. The cameraman told us that they hope to give potential tourists an idea of the atmosphere in Sosúa.


I don't know why they are letting them film in the clubs , Channel 4 must of told the club & bar owners it's free advertising when we all know this is gonna be a documentary on prostitution.

[psriches]

Uh Oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek: (remember the Essence magazine article on RIO?)

[DEPUTY DAWG]

The shit's gonna hit the fan not to mention the boost in monger trafficing!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cuddler]

Channel 4 camera crew active in Sosúa....
We all know this is gonna be a documentary on prostitution.

Thanks for drawing our attention to this! The news item appeared in the Sosua News, by the way, with the same wording. Did you put it there or quote it?

Sure it's probably about prostitution, but maybe with a different twist.

Check out this letter on www.sosuanews.com (http://www.sosuanews.com)...



15 February 2008
Hi there,
I work for Zigzag Productions, an independent television production company based in London which has both a well respected reputation and considerable experience in making documentary films. I am working on a Channel 4 documentary looking at women travelling abroad for sex and romance. Now it’s not just men who are nipping off for 2 week holidays to have sex with women in Thailand; British women have a Dominican destination that they can travel to for romance and or sex guaranteed, in the safe secure confines of a small number of hotels in Sosua. Films have been made about men going abroad to satisfy their sexual desires but the sexual freedom of British women overseas has barely been represented despite it becoming less taboo and better assisted.
The programme would follow 3 or 4 British women who travel to Dominican hotels, investigating the different relationships that exist between the Dominican romancers and the ladies seeking them. I would love to talk to you confidentially even if you don’t want to be on camera, but if you are interested in taking part then I would love to hear from you.
emmas@zigzag.uk.com
0044(0)2070178755
Emma Sheridan, UK


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By the way I find the advertisement discriminatory against women over 99.

[ChicaSeeka]

think they will blue dot the faces LOL:eek: Glad my ass won't be on TV

[DEPUTY DAWG]

It's still the same thing Your still talking about prostitution as a whole.... Bringing attention to a certain area for what it provides tourist. So now it's men and women... The thing is that your not gonna see many women doing what we do down there maybe a few at best and thru my 9+ trips to sosua I've seen it in action and it's not much

[blacksultan]

I saw some cameramen taking some footage yesterday by Classicos. That may be related to this documentary.

[blacksultan]

Uh Oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek: (remember the Essence magazine article on RIO?)

I went to college with the guy who wrote the article. He came out for my fraternity and did not make it.

[Hemp]

not good...not good at all!

[Kevy]

They were on the site recently looking for info. Fuck them

[blacksultan]

not good...not good at all!


Yeah. But what are we going to do?? And is it really going to change things here all that much???

[ajax718]

Documentaries about prostitution, regardless of being pro or against, bring unwanted attention to that country. The DR gov't has a history of overreacting to situations such as whoretowns by shutting them down. The DR gov't shut down Boca Chica about 5 years ago, and Sosua was shut down during the 90's (look at Rocky's report about history of Sosua).

[Kevy]

The documentary called My Boyfriend the Sex Tourist, focused on mywildvacation.com on Margarita Island and they shut it down after that. this could result in changes.:confused:

[DEPUTY DAWG]

Absofuckinlutely!!!!!! Expect the same fall-out not to mention when documentaries get picked up by US media and it plays during sweeps week. Your women do have a chance to see this kinda shit. NOT TO MENTION THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT WILL

[MisterPink]

I am sure The Ministry of Tourism would be quited pleased to escort this film crew to POP when they see the trailer.

The Dominican gov't is quite touchy about this sort of publicity, unless someone is paid off, and I doubt this film is gonna bring in Coppola revenues for a big payoff.

Fuck ZIGZAG productions, and the horse they rode in on!

mp

[Jimbo44]

BS, make sure you wear a hat and a pair of shades!!:lol:

[cuddler]

The Dominican gov't is quite touchy about this sort of publicity, unless someone is paid off

Shall we pass round the hat?

[blacksultan]

Absofuckinlutely!!!!!! Expect the same fall-out not to mention when documentaries get picked up by US media and it plays during sweeps week. Your women do have a chance to see this kinda shit. NOT TO MENTION THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT WILL

They need to chill the fuck out and mind their business. Jesus has a bunch of fucked up shit already on Planet Earth to worry about. Plus, I am pretty sure a bunch of guys who claim to be conservative Christians fuck hoes all the damn time. Bunch of hypocrites.

[MisterPink]

Shall we pass round the hat?
What do you mean by this....you approve of the film, or is it that WEYLAND "sense of humour"... where is the old coot?

I will trip the camera man if someone films me without my permission.

pink

[MyTio]

I think the focus of the documentary is on older woman going to the Dr looking for love. I hope they stay on the topic and keep the heat of us

[cuddler]

What do you mean by this....you approve of the film, or is it that WEYLAND "sense of humour"... where is the old coot?

I will trip the camera man if someone films me without my permission.

pink

Maybe "pass round the hat" isn't used in the US. It means collect money. For that payoff, to keep our hunting grounds safe. Nobody has to laugh.

[MisterPink]

Maybe "pass round the hat" isn't used in the US. It means collect money, as in church. For that payoff.

Bro:

I understood your post, why would you want to collect money to pay the govt off to allow this FILM?

Perhaps you did not understand the reasoning of my post beeya?

If you happen to see a professional film production crew in Sosua filming sex tourists, male or female, this is not a particularly good thing for the welfare of "The Hobby" in La RD.

mp

[Jimbo44]

More gringos in the area, only menas more demand, hence, higher prices.....

[cuddler]

OK, OK! Nothing but a misunderstanding! Sorry!
I misread the original statement about a payoff . I thought it meant that the DR govt. would react negatively to the film (after the event) unless they were paid off not to do so.

Weyland's whereabouts:


I think I need a little break from ISOC and I am sure all you guys need a little break from me so I will do penance by not posting anything for one month and see how it goes.

That was on April 9th.

[MisterPink]

OK, OK! Nothing but a misunderstanding! Sorry!
I misread the original statement about a payoff . I thought it meant that the DR govt. would react negatively to the film (after the event) unless they were paid off not to do so.

Weyland's whereabouts:

That was on April 9th.

No problem Cuddler!
I figured it was semantics.

cheerio'

pink

[cuddler]

While we're on semantics. what's beeya?

Hope you don't mean this:



2.BEEYAA word that is yelled out loud while a man is ejaculating anywhere on a womans body.
I beeya'd all over her face.

[MisterPink]

While we're on semantics. what's beeya?

Hope you don't mean this:

Ask Weyland!

pink

PS: It was not meant to be derogatory.

[Pana]

The end of Sosua is coming quicker than I thought it would happenhttp://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h242/Panabklyn/819y9w4.gif.

[Beads]

The end of Sosua is coming quicker than I thought it would happenhttp://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h242/Panabklyn/819y9w4.gif.

If they came here looking for info and are filming the nightlife in Sosua what does anyone think they are going to base their story on?

The DR government is also highly susceptible to US views. I think this is going to cause a serious crackdown on prostitution and thats about all that can come of it. More mongers heading to town right away until things get shut down.

Nothing good can come of this.

[JD426]

This is going to get very Ugly. You just KNOW the US media is going to pick up on this. Absolutely NOTHING good can come of this whatsoever. In fact it would not surprise me of some pandering POS congressman also tries to intruduce a Bill to make it illegal to travel overseas for the express purspose of soliciting prostitution . Would not surprise me one bit.
As said before, the AI business is the bread and butter for the DR, so the authorities will undoutably overreact and shut down every single Casa, disco and massage parlor if they perceive any of that US $$ is at risk.

[Gutter Meat]

Guys , in so many ways this is bad. There will be a huge increase in the amount of people comming to Sosua first and will drive the prices way up. Then will come the crack down. They did it in Boca and they can do it in Sosua too. I might have to follow in jimmy DR's foot steps and try a new country.

[Jimmydr]

Guys , in so many ways this is bad. There will be a huge increase in the amount of people comming to Sosua first and will drive the prices way up. Then will come the crack down. They did it in Boca and they can do it in Sosua too. I might have to follow in jimmy DR's foot steps and try a new country.


Then leave Sosua and travel 15 minutes outside!

[El Capitan]

Then leave Sosua and travel 15 minutes outside!

Yeah really, (while I've never been to So-sewar, and have no desire to go....) I keep preachin' Santiago and Santo Domingo.....others keep saying go to the smaller barrios outside those cities. While Jarabacoa IS NOT a mongering destination, I'd bet if you went, you could score (if you speak the lingo....) and if there is a call for PUTAS, they will come!

Personally, I think the big draw to So-sewar (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that "Eeeengleeeesh eees espoken"......lemmie tell tell ya, there's a lot of PUTAS who speak English outside of So-sewar as well....focus on the cities, look near the universities, malls and hotels.

If you're lingustically challenged in the DR, you most likely will be elsewhere as well.

Just my .02

[Inconego]

Yeah really, (while I've never been to So-sewar, and have no desire to go....) I keep preachin' Santiago and Santo Domingo.....others keep saying go to the smaller barrios outside those cities. While Jarabacoa IS NOT a mongering destination, I'd bet if you went, you could score (if you speak the lingo....) and if there is a call for PUTAS, they will come!

Personally, I think the big draw to So-sewar (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that "Eeeengleeeesh eees espoken"......lemmie tell tell ya, there's a lot of PUTAS who speak English outside of So-sewar as well....focus on the cities, look near the universities, malls and hotels.

If you're lingustically challenged in the DR, you most likely will be elsewhere as well.

Just my .02

It's not just that... Even though a lot of guys speak of the 'hunt' on here... We really don't want any kind of hunt... We want antelopes with wounded legs...

One can land in POP at 1pm, and have your dick in a chic by 2pm--without any language skills, and including retrieving your checked luggage!)

DR is so exposed to the US that I feel like the language barrier doesn't hurt most as much as in... lets say Colombia...

For me, I'd rather not Sosua as much (unless I'm going with newbie friends)... I'd prefer going off the grid a bit....

I didn't really like Santo Domingo because I don't wanna be in a 'big' city like that... and I enjoy proximity to the beach...

[Ram]

What is all this doom and gloom!!

Sosua was shut down in the 90s....it seems to have rebounded has it not.
It will go down and it will come back.
This is a big country.....also there are other countries....what is the big deal?

A shutdown would bring everything back down to earth....

[ilikenyacional]

What is all this doom and gloom!! Sosua was shut down in the 90s....it seems to have rebounded has it not.
It will go down and it will come back.
This is a big country.....also there are other countries....what is the big deal?

A shutdown would bring everything back down to earth....

Yeah ? Calm down guys.

Like if Sosua/DR was the best kept secret in the world...

We're not the first nor the last to monger there.

[DEPUTY DAWG]

It's not just that... Even though a lot of guys speak of the 'hunt' on here... We really don't want any kind of hunt... We want antelopes with wounded legs...


One can land in POP at 1pm, and have your dick in a chic by 2pm--without any language skills, and including retrieving your checked luggage!)



Speak for yourself!!!!!!:p

[eldorob]

It's not just that... Even though a lot of guys speak of the 'hunt' on here... We really don't want any kind of hunt... We want antelopes with wounded legs......

Now that's funny......true, but funny



I didn't really like Santo Domingo because I don't wanna be in a 'big' city like that... and I enjoy proximity to the beach...

dittos

[ajax718]

This documentary may lead to more sex tourists traveling to Sosua, unless the DR gov't shuts it down first. The DR gov't is well aware of sex tourists, but it is not willing to compromise the image it wants to present to the all-inclusive crowd. The big companies that run the resorts have power to persuade.

If Sosua is shut down, it will be no big deal. View it as hitting the reset button while playing video games: Less putas means less tourists which means drop in prices. Businesses will go broke, then eventually it will all come back

[eldorob]

This documentary may lead to more sex tourists traveling to Sosua, unless the DR gov't shuts it down first. The DR gov't is well aware of sex tourists, but it is not willing to compromise the image it wants to present to the all-inclusive crowd. The big companies that run the resorts have power to persuade.

If Sosua is shut down, it will be no big deal. View it as hitting the reset button while playing video games: Less putas means less tourists which means drop in prices. Businesses will go broke, then eventually it will all come back

Agreed, and the ones shutting it down all have their chicas on the side. It will be back to normal after a short time.

Just the same tho, I'll think I'll get down there soon...

[Beads]

Maybe they'll just do chica roundups at night. Those were kinda funny back when they were happening not too long ago.

I remember seeing the trucks pulling up in front of Classicos and the police/military rounding up all single chicas and sticking them in the back of the truck.

I tried to save 2 one night but they only seemed willing to accept my missing girlfriend story once. :rofl:

Chicas were definitely were more open to lower prices too while the police were rounding them up :rofl:

[psriches]

Yeah really, (while I've never been to So-sewar, and have no desire to go....) I keep preachin' Santiago and Santo Domingo.....others keep saying go to the smaller barrios outside those cities. While Jarabacoa IS NOT a mongering destination, I'd bet if you went, you could score (if you speak the lingo....) and if there is a call for PUTAS, they will come!

Personally, I think the big draw to So-sewar (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that "Eeeengleeeesh eees espoken"......lemmie tell tell ya, there's a lot of PUTAS who speak English outside of So-sewar as well....focus on the cities, look near the universities, malls and hotels.

If you're lingustically challenged in the DR, you most likely will be elsewhere as well.

Just my .02NO IMPORTA!!!

The real draw is that the monger illusion is packaged. Step outside your hotel room and FUCK!! If they wanted to work they would stay home and go to work! (i don't mind the work)

Sosua is kind of like the "All Inclusive" of mongering................

[psriches]

I think the focus of the documentary is on older woman going to the Dr looking for love. I hope they stay on the topic and keep the heat of usDoes ISOC ever stay on topic? NO!

These Sosua female monger documentaries always start off focused, until they hit Classico! Then the focus changes........

[MisterPink]

The bottom line is, they will NEVER shut down our hobby in DR! Come on, next to corrupt PLD officials, I have to imagine "The Chica Business" is the next top earning profession in La RD.

Even if Sosua gets "cleaned up", the chicas will migrate where they are not hastled. They had a master plan a few years ago to shift the Sosua RLD down past Europa, but it never panned out. High Caribe even reopened for a day!

We can do without some 1/2 rate production company giving the administration the idea to sweep up Sosua.

pink

[TMONEY]

Great....just great!!!! How the hell am I going to explain this one!!

[psriches]

Great....just great!!!! How the hell am I going to explain this one!!I lost my relationship over that ESSENSE Brazil article. It came out right before my trip with WSJ. It caused a big 3 day fight which lasted right up until 2 hours before departure. It was never the same after that until the relationship just ended..... Oh Well!!!

[Dick Dawson]

I don't see the UK Gov't leaning on Leonel to do anything. Remember that this is only gonna air in the UK for now. Whether the company licenses it out to the US remains to be seen.

[Donny Boy]

This Sucks big time, I hope it doesnt shut things down. I will have to wife up :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[TMONEY]

I am already running out of reasons I have to go to the DR. I mean who the hell would believe I am going fishing....or looking for real estate for us sweetie!!!! This is going to fuck things up BIG TIME!!!

[Inconego]

I lost my relationship over that ESSENSE Brazil article. It came out right before my trip with WSJ. It caused a big 3 day fight which lasted right up until 2 hours before departure. It was never the same after that until the relationship just ended..... Oh Well!!!

Yeah, but the fact that you weren't willing to capitulate only emphasized the point that you were definitely going for a 'reason'...

You don't seem to have lost much sleep over that one...

Besides, you'll always have WSJ...:rofl:

[PapiQueRico]

There's a great big world out there fellas.

Relax!

[continentalmike]

You can all go to Cuba soon :)

[psriches]

Yeah, but the fact that you weren't willing to capitulate only emphasized the point that you were definitely going for a 'reason'...

You don't seem to have lost much sleep over that one...

Besides, you'll always have WSJ...:rofl:As brokeback as the last part of this post sounds, i guess you're right!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[MrHappy]

Whoa!! Back up a minute guys...

Channel 4 from where? Is it the local Channel 4? Or are they from another country?

How in the hell did guys from the Channel 4 documentary get mixed up with the zigzag productions cunt that was prying around here a couple of months ago?

And has anyone asked the guys what kind of documentary they're really doing? Do we KNOW it's going to be a sex expose?

Maybe it's just a generalized overview of Sosua as a vacation spot.

In any case, someone in Sosua should ask, so we know where to look for the upcoming "documentary"

[cuddler]

It's Channel 4 in the UK.

[blacksultan]

As brokeback as the last part of this post sounds, i guess you're right!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Psriches and WSJ3 are the ISOC version of Frick and Frack.:wink:

[blacksultan]

You can all go to Cuba soon :)

I truly hope that you are right. Many of us hope that you are right.

[cuddler]

Do you really want to go mongering in a country where the chica gets a bad mark in her book for being seen with a foreigner, and goes to jail the third time?

[continentalmike]

Do you really want to go mongering in a country where the chica gets a bad mark in her book for being seen with a foreigner, and goes to jail the third time?

This is a bit black and white...I do not support this view..

[cuddler]

I should add that's what I've read. I haven't been there myself, so maybe you know better.

[PapiQueRico]

I should add that's what I've read. I haven't been there myself, so maybe you know better.

Cuddler,
Whatever you read about Cuba should be taken with several grains of salt. There are just too many people on all sides of the "Cuba issue" who thrive on mis-information.

[cuddler]

Point taken. No reason for me to have an opinion on the subject.
I liked this quote on another board though:


I am very much confused by the earlier discussions re no action in Cuba??? Where were you guys, ... Guantnamo?

[agua chico]

I lost my relationship over that ESSENSE Brazil article. It came out right before my trip with WSJ. It caused a big 3 day fight which lasted right up until 2 hours before departure. It was never the same after that until the relationship just ended..... Oh Well!!!

I like a man who stands behind his principles :) LOL!!

[cuddler]

This entry on Myspace sheds a little more light on the film. (The only light it sheds on her personally is that she's 25)


An independent production company, Zig Zag is making a series for a major British broadcaster about British women looking for love and romance abroad. The series will cover several countries and look at every stage of the dating game from the first night to marriage – we will follow singles open to meeting a man, couples as they tie the knot and people who have moved their whole lives to another country. It will be about fun, love, relationships and a cross of cultures – we will be looking at what British women want from their men and where they go to find it. We are hoping to find women heading to Turkey in April/ May. We would be interested in speaking to anyone that might like to be involved in the documentary with no commitment at this stage. Filming would be flexible and just take up a few days of their holiday. This one hour programme will be aired in June and feature a variety of stories and experiences If anyone agreed to have bits of their holiday filmed, we would work out carefully when it would suit them for us to film a few days here and there over their trip – they would get plenty of time to enjoy their holiday undisturbed! We would want to film a bit that introduced us to the ladies where they could explain a bit about themselves and their trip to turkey, then we would probably want to film something like them getting ready to go out and then see them out and about in Turkey. As the programme is about love and romance in turkey, if they were to meet anyone we would obviously be interested in capturing the blossoming of a relationship if that happened. What we are looking for are women that would be open about meeting a man if they did and who would enjoy capturing a bit of their holiday and experiences on camera as part of the programme. It is an observational programme and nothing will be set up. If anyone is interested in hearing more please get in touch asap. Emma Sheridan emmas@zigzag.uk.com 02070178755

Of course there's no proof that the filming Sosuanews reports was for the Zigzag film. Channel 4 could be doing another program as well for all we know, but it seems unlikely.

Another one, on britishexpats.com:



Channel 4 Doc looking for stories about Gambia
Hi there,

My name is Emma Sheridan and I am a researcher working for Zigzag Productions, based in London.

I am working on a new TV documentary that will be looking at the lure of the ‘Smiling Coast’ of Gambia to British women. The programme will explore British women’s experiences of dating, sex and relationships in the Gambia and we will follow 3 people’s different stories and experiences to get a good overview of what it’s really like.

As it says on my profile we hope this will be an enlightening, fun and realistic look at the ups and downs of searching for love in a foreign climate and will give women a voice to explain the liberated behaviour which has been traditionally seen to fall within a man’s domain.

We want to know what it is like for everyone involved in a Gambian/British relationship, from marriage to one-off nights of passion, and are looking to find several men and women who would be willing to share their stories with us. We want to speak to British women looking for romance in Gambia, and Gambian men waiting for them to arrive – as well as couples that are already together. We want to know what makes British women keep coming back to the Gambia for more?

At this stage we are looking to speak to anyone with a relevent story and hear their opinions, ideas and suggestions... if you are interested in speaking with me on the subject or know anyone that might like to contribute, please get in touch, I would be delighted to hear from you.

Emma Sheridan
emmas@zigzag.uk.com
http://britishexpats.com/forum/images/be/statusicon/user_offline.gif

Another of Emma's documentaries, this time for BBC (from femalefirst.co.uk):



Ever found yourself fantasing about sex with another woman?? Well you're not alone, 1 in 3 women admit it!!

we are holding a workshop for curious ladies who would like to get some expert advice on the 'ins and outs' of lesbian dating and sex!! Perhaps you would like to improve your technique with the ladies and have some questions you'd like answered? Maybe you feel like your inexperience is holding you back?? Learn all you need to know and more, free of charge, at a workshop on Wednesday 10th October.

If you're interested in coming along or would like to hear more, get in touch!!

Call me on 020 7017 8755 or e-mail research@zigzag.uk.com

Thanks,

Emma Sheridan

[Bug Boy]

I hope everybody refuses to talk to the bitch. Then she will have to go find a real story to report on rather than some sensationalist bullshit.:icontd:

[blacksultan]

:wink:
I lost my relationship over that ESSENSE Brazil article. It came out right before my trip with WSJ. It caused a big 3 day fight which lasted right up until 2 hours before departure. It was never the same after that until the relationship just ended..... Oh Well!!!

Your ex wasnt fucking you well enough. If she was supplying your every sexual need, going to Brazil or DR for that matter would never enter your mind. That is the truth.:wink:

[greydread]

:wink:

Your ex wasnt fucking you well enough. If she was supplying your every sexual need, going to Brazil or DR for that matter would never enter your mind. That is the truth.:wink:
Not necessarily so.

My every imaginable sexual need is well supplied at home. I don't do this because there's something wrong at home or there's any defect in my primary relationship. I do this because I must. There's a genetic predisposition for a man to spred it around and I'll tell everyone else exactly what I tell whomever preceded or will follow my current wife just as I told her: "As long as I'm handling our business and I remember the way home, don't fuck with me about my wind down time".

My wife comes from a polygamous society and she understands this. All women should understand this. It's a fact of nature. Any man who denies this fact is in fact attempting to redefine his nature. This doesn't work and causes stress. Strange punani from beautiful women half my age relieves stress. I choose relief.:corky:

When I was younger and trying to fit the round peg of my existence into the square hole of expectation I wasted a hell of a lot of time and energy trying to fight my nature to maintain marriages where I gave 90% to get 10%.

Fuck that! It's "me time". S.O.'s can get on the bus or jump the fuck off....no dif' to me.:wink:

[Hemp]

:clap2: :notworthy: :clap2: :notworthy:



Not necessarily so.


My every imaginable sexual need is well supplied at home. I don't do this because there's something wrong at home or there's any defect in my primary relationship. I do this because I must. There's a genetic predisposition for a man to spred it around and I'll tell everyone else exactly what I tell whomever preceded or will follow my current wife just as I told her: "As long as I'm handling our business and I remember the way home, don't fuck with me about my wind down time".

[ilikenyacional]

I should add that's what I've read. I haven't been there myself, so maybe you know better.

Huh ? Maybe he knows better ????

What you read on the internet and the real world are two different things, especially about Cuba, I think you can understand why.

Continental Mike is a well respected and experienced member who has posted several reports about Cuba so I'm SURE he knows better than you...

Don't forget that a lot of us go to several different countries, not just the DR and Sosua.

Thank you.

[psriches]

:wink:

Your ex wasnt fucking you well enough. If she was supplying your every sexual need, going to Brazil or DR for that matter would never enter your mind. That is the truth.:wink:Yeah but i thought i was bigger than that!! I guess not......:(

(i guess it was better it happened then before i signed on the dotted line)

[El Tiburon]

Not necessarily so.

My every imaginable sexual need is well supplied at home. I don't do this because there's something wrong at home or there's any defect in my primary relationship. I do this because I must. There's a genetic predisposition for a man to spred it around and I'll tell everyone else exactly what I tell whomever preceded or will follow my current wife just as I told her: "As long as I'm handling our business and I remember the way home, don't fuck with me about my wind down time".


this should be for grey not hempstead...my bad.

till you come home and she says' i think i need a vacation"... i love the eddie murphy skit wear she goes away and meets jaque st.jox... if she comes home singin.. "i shot the sheriff" time to pack your bags....
thats what i hate about american women... even tho she is sittin pretty.. she wants more and won't look the other way to long... maybe a couple of times.... where as third world will take it as... "i must not be makin him happy", let me try harded.....

[blacksultan]

Not necessarily so.

My every imaginable sexual need is well supplied at home. I don't do this because there's something wrong at home or there's any defect in my primary relationship. I do this because I must. There's a genetic predisposition for a man to spred it around and I'll tell everyone else exactly what I tell whomever preceded or will follow my current wife just as I told her: "As long as I'm handling our business and I remember the way home, don't fuck with me about my wind down time".

My wife comes from a polygamous society and she understands this. All women should understand this. It's a fact of nature. Any man who denies this fact is in fact attempting to redefine his nature. This doesn't work and causes stress. Strange punani from beautiful women half my age relieves stress. I choose relief.:corky:

When I was younger and trying to fit the round peg of my existence into the square hole of expectation I wasted a hell of a lot of time and energy trying to fight my nature to maintain marriages where I gave 90% to get 10%.

Fuck that! It's "me time". S.O.'s can get on the bus or jump the fuck off....no dif' to me.:wink:


Everything you said is true. You are right. I dont think I could just stay with one piece of pussy my whole life; I have come to this realization. I have said this before, it is like giving a kid one M & M or one Pringle and telling them he can't have anymore. That would not be a happy kid. I know my best friend is very happy with her; I can't see him cheating on his wife. I really think he may beat the odds. That is some very rare shit.

[brovo35]

....... Any man who denies this fact is in fact attempting to redefine his nature. This doesn't work and causes stress. Strange punani from beautiful women half my age relieves stress. I choose relief.:corky:

When I was younger and trying to fit the round peg of my existence into the square hole of expectation I wasted a hell of a lot of time and energy trying to fight my nature to maintain marriages where I gave 90% to get 10%.



Very profound words indeed! Especially the highlighted part

[Inconego]

Everything you said is true. You are right. I dont think I could just stay with one piece of pussy my whole life; I have come to this realization. I have said this before, it is like giving a kid one M & M or one Pringle and telling them he can't have anymore. That would not be a happy kid. I know my best friend is very happy with her; I can't see him cheating on his wife. I really think he may beat the odds. That is some very rare shit.

I tried to read this, but I really couldn't get everything in my window, made it difficult--it also gave me a headache... Moderators, can you please make this normal size for us people that don't need bifocals...

Thanks

[greydread]

One of the valuable lessons which we should take from our friends in the D.R. is the concept of "Right here, Right now". The ability to live in and appreciate the moment. I married young (20) due to circumstances beyond my control. I was a G.I. and couldn't afford a long distance relationship when the orders came in so I did what I did and I have never regretted it. The biggest lesson I learned during the course of that first early marriage what the inevitability of change and our inate urge to resist it.

We've all been conditioned to believe in the concept of "Happily ever after" when we should have been learning about entropy. Everything in life is either in a state of renovation and rejuvenation or in a state of decay and destruction. This includes the interpersonal relationships which we develop along the way. You're either making it better or it's getting worse on iyts own. This includes relationships with Wives, Friends and Relatives. There are new and old relationships in all of our lives and they are all in various states of construction or decay.

Learning to live together is exactly like learning to dance together. At some point the steps change slightly and we are forced to adjust our step or our rhythm to accommodate our pertners. Sometimes when you lose the beat it's better to either wait for another song or to find another partner. It's all a matter of priority. How important this particular dance is to you. Even though we no longer dance together, the relationships with the exes ceased to decay when the marriages ended. Once you get to the point of doing more harm than good for one another it's time to put away the baggage and salvage the friendship or find a level of trust, adjusting our expectations for the common good.

Does this mean that marriage is a waste of time? I think not. I've learned more about myself looking through the eyes of the exes than I would have alone. I've found a lot of room for improvement, not for their benefit but for mine and that of our children. I have gained a great deal of self discipline and self awareness as the result of my marriages and I am very appreciative for the experiences.

I have also found a vast difference between the concept of "Cheating" and its reality. I have stated before that monogamy is not natural to the human male psyche. I can't speak for females but I have amassed a wealth of evidence suggesting the same holds true for them. Most of this evidence has been wiped off my dick.

Example #1:

If your wife works to increase your family income, takes great care of you, your kids, your house yet experiences a momentary indescretion with "Dexter St. Jaques" or "Jodie" or osme guy in Vegas on the girls' trip and she doesn't end up pregnant or catch some STD but comes home from her vacation rested and happy and continues to improve the quality of your life, has she "cheated?

or is it...

The wive who begrudgingly gives up sex for noone but you two or three times a month, misspends your money on frivolous shit for herself and contributes little or nothing to the family income, keeps a sloppy house and largely ignores you and the kids except for occassionally nagging, cursing and complaining?

Is the guy who earns a good income which he uses to improve the lives of his family, uses his free time to reinforce the esteem and love between himself and his wive and kids through direct emotional support, yet takes time to ground himself, playing golf or poker, fishing or hunting with male peers and getting a little trim on the side, making sure not to leave a "package" or bring one home a "cheater"?

or is it....

The guy who does just enough to get by in his career, depriving his family of substantive support, spending his evenings getting drunk and going home to treat his wife and kids in an abusive manner, denying any emotional support to either, yet remaining monogamous?

If you ask me, the failure to add to the value of a spouse's life is far more destructive than an occassional, inevitable sexual indescretion and the worst form of "cheating" imaginable.



Example #2

When I was single (in between marriages) a woman worked and put her earnings into a joint checking account with her husband, kept his house immaculate, kept herself beautiful and his nuts drained. She never complained when he played cards with his buddies all night long, went on all weekend golf and fishing trips, cooked his food, picked his shit up from the cleaners, washed his funky drawers, massaged his ego and took the cars in for service, oversaw home repairs, etc. This same woman found a few hours two nights a week to visit me for a sexual marathon which left us both wet and quivering, always returning home in time to prepare her husbands supper and listen to him while he ate it.

Was she a bad wife?

[Inconego]

So would you marry that woman? Knowing her propensity for letting another man inside her?

Your post is definitely hall of fame material, and I'll reference it in the future...

Just it's easier to speak of that theoretically, than in practice... It's the double standard.... Much of our value of women in our lives has to do with the value of their pussy, and their ability to maintain its integrity...

I agree with you in theory, but in practice, not sure...

[milldam]

Not necessarily so.

My every imaginable sexual need is well supplied at home. I don't do this because there's something wrong at home or there's any defect in my primary relationship. I do this because I must. There's a genetic predisposition for a man to spred it around and I'll tell everyone else exactly what I tell whomever preceded or will follow my current wife just as I told her: "As long as I'm handling our business and I remember the way home, don't fuck with me about my wind down time".

My wife comes from a polygamous society and she understands this. All women should understand this. It's a fact of nature. Any man who denies this fact is in fact attempting to redefine his nature. This doesn't work and causes stress. Strange punani from beautiful women half my age relieves stress. I choose relief.:corky:

When I was younger and trying to fit the round peg of my existence into the square hole of expectation I wasted a hell of a lot of time and energy trying to fight my nature to maintain marriages where I gave 90% to get 10%.

Fuck that! It's "me time". S.O.'s can get on the bus or jump the fuck off....no dif' to me.:wink:




Just a question Greydread, would u be ok with your wife getting some on the side too, not trying to start something, just curious?

[greydread]

Just a question Greydread, would u be ok with your wife getting some on the side too, not trying to start something, just curious?
What would make you or me for that matter think she isn't, already.

The point is that neither I nor any other man should judge his woman or the quality of his relationship based on anything other than how she treats YOU. Everything else is bullshit. Life should not be about expectations. It should be about demonstrations....of support, consideration, dedication.

No wife of mine has ever doubted my dedication to them. In spite of that they change as their lives dictate over the course of the years we spent together and at some point forced me to ask the question "Are you giving more than you're getting?". If the answer is yes, it's time to confront the problem. If you can't solve the problem it's time to move on.

A man can't own a pussy. A woman can't own a dick. Period.

[Inconego]

What would make you or me for that matter think she isn't, already.

The point is that neither I nor any other man should judge his woman or the quality of his relationship based on anything other than how she treats YOU. Everything else is bullshit. Life should not be about expectations. It should be about demonstrations....of support, consideration, dedication.

No wife of mine has ever doubted my dedication to them. In spite of that they change as their lives dictate over the course of the years we spent together and at some point forced me to ask the question "Are you giving more than you're getting?". If the answer is yes, it's time to confront the problem. If you can't solve the problem it's time to move on.

A man can't own a pussy. A woman can't own a dick. Period.

Well number of past partners is another reason that guys may never seriously 'wife up' a hooker...

But you believe in the 'hooker with a heart of gold'?

[PapiQueRico]

Greydread,
You show a level of self awareness that most do not posess. I'm happy that your approach works for you, though I wonder if it would work for many. It is a more evolved approach, but we are not all such evolved individuals.

[DEPUTY DAWG]

I tried to read this, but I really couldn't get everything in my window, made it difficult--it also gave me a headache... Moderators, can you please make this normal size for us people that don't need bifocals...

Thanks

How's that!!!!!:p

[Inconego]

Thanks a million Deputy... I really just read what he wrote... I've told sultan... I hate it when people yell at me :-)

[sommy]

I agree they should have not let them in . What are the bar owners thinking, As you said they will be cutting up sosua with their documentary and give it bad publicity which could result in city town council going on a social order camapaign to look better . They dont need the advertising as punters know where to find their action , i certainly would not want to be on that film

[cainer]

Thought id put my 2 cents in on this subject.

Ive seen dozens of documentarys here in Canada on prostitution in Thailand, and Thailand is still booming as a sex toursist destination. I really dont know why this documentary would change things in Sosua.

If anything, these documentarys just informed the ones that didnt know sex was so readily avialable, that it actualy is and creates more tourism. I dont think the Dr government can afford to shut it down. It has to be a billion dollar industry and they cant afford to lose that. A worst case senerio would be a small crackdown, to show the world they do condom prositution, but, it wouldnt last long at all.
Kind of like how Fidel did it in Cuba. And if i am completely wrong, and the dr does do a major crackdown, so be it. Its over priced there anyways and everyone can then go to the Philippines:) If it wasnt for the 18 hour flight, id be in the Philippines everytime.

[greydread]

Well number of past partners is another reason that guys may never seriously 'wife up' a hooker...

But you believe in the 'hooker with a heart of gold'?
I've met her. She endeared herself to me with the words: "tu quiero coulo, Papi? facial?" I didn't speak Spanish at all back then so she proceded to educate me with flawless demonstration as she unveiled her extensive talents, one by one until I was curled up in the fetal position totally spent.

Then, almost mercifully....she left.

[continentalmike]

I've met her. She endeared herself to me with the words: "tu quiero coulo, Papi? facial?" I didn't speak Spanish at all back then so she proceded to educate me with flawless demonstration as she unveiled her extensive talents, one by one until I was curled up in the fetal position totally spent.

Then, almost mercifully....she left.

We were talkin about a heart not a pussy of gold:wink:

[jensenspecial]

Not necessarily so.

My every imaginable sexual need is well supplied at home. I don't do this because there's something wrong at home or there's any defect in my primary relationship. I do this because I must. There's a genetic predisposition for a man to spred it around and I'll tell everyone else exactly what I tell whomever preceded or will follow my current wife just as I told her: "As long as I'm handling our business and I remember the way home, don't fuck with me about my wind down time".

My wife comes from a polygamous society and she understands this. All women should understand this. It's a fact of nature. Any man who denies this fact is in fact attempting to redefine his nature. This doesn't work and causes stress. Strange punani from beautiful women half my age relieves stress. I choose relief.:corky:

When I was younger and trying to fit the round peg of my existence into the square hole of expectation I wasted a hell of a lot of time and energy trying to fight my nature to maintain marriages where I gave 90% to get 10%.

Fuck that! It's "me time". S.O.'s can get on the bus or jump the fuck off....no dif' to me.:wink:


a disposition you call it ...maybe you should read about evolutionl and find out that it is quite normal " to spread it around"...it is in the male genes to find perfection...