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weyland
07-19-2008, 08:57 AM
Street hookers in Santiago (DR) are reacting to police harassment by threatening to protest in the nude.

http://www2.elnuevodiario.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=111503

Or is this just another 3somefan promotion being hyped? The guy is a master of publicity these days.

weyland
07-19-2008, 10:42 AM
This is my best shot at a loose translation but my Spanish is very basic so I would be grateful to anyone who can improve on it.

"Prostitutes of the Dominican city of Santiago threatened to undress in the streets today, to protest against a new initiative by the authorities. The spokeswoman for the sex workers, Belgium Martinez, asked the Police to let them work, otherwise, she warned, they will march naked in the streets. Martinez told the press that many of her companions are single mothers, some of them illiterate, who find it very difficult to obtain jobs and have resorted to prostitution to maintain their children.

Also, they protest that sometimes when they are caught by the Police they are forced to have sex with them and bribe them to be released. The Dominican authorities, jointly with local community organizations, initiated a campaign against dominicanas and haitianas who practiced prostitution in Santiago, a city 155 kilometers to the north of Santo Domingo. The department of Migration confirmed today that in the last four days 43 Haitian prostitutes have been caught and deported.

The head of Central Cibao Police (North), Raudo Ramirez Commas, told the press that they arrest prostitutes every day in the lower part of the city, following persistent complaints by residents. However, he added, they are set free by the courts unless they are charged with a specific crime because prostitution is not illegal in the DR. Ramirez Commas said that they will continue the initiative against the prostitutes until they succeed in driving them out of the area."

I am not sure what is meant by "la parte baja de la ciudad". Does this just mean "downtown" or does it mean a geographical area (like "Lower" California), or is it derogatory in the sense of "lowlife area"?

Note that, as in all of these initiatives, the police concentrate their efforts on Haitians because they are easy targets.

I wonder if Belgium Martinez is the crack whore who once turned me down as a customer?

Summit
07-19-2008, 11:45 AM
This is my best shot at a loose translation but my Spanish is very basic so I would be grateful to anyone who can improve on it.

"Prostitutes of the Dominican city of Santiago threatened to undress in the streets today, to protest against a new initiative by the authorities. The spokeswoman for the sex workers, Belgium Martinez, asked the Police to let them work, otherwise, she warned, they will march naked in the streets. Martinez told the press that many of her companions are single mothers, some of them illiterate, who find it very difficult to obtain jobs and have resorted to prostitution to maintain their children.

Also, they protest that sometimes when they are caught by the Police they are forced to have sex with them and bribe them to be released. The Dominican authorities, jointly with local community organizations, initiated a campaign against dominicanas and haitianas who practiced prostitution in Santiago, a city 155 kilometers to the north of Santo Domingo. The department of Migration confirmed today that in the last four days 43 Haitian prostitutes have been caught and deported.

The head of Central Cibao Police (North), Raudo Ramirez Commas, told the press that they arrest prostitutes every day in the lower part of the city, following persistent complaints by residents. However, he added, they are set free by the courts unless they are charged with a specific crime because prostitution is not illegal in the DR. Ramirez Commas said that they will continue the initiative against the prostitutes until they succeed in driving them out of the area."

I am not sure what is meant by "la parte baja de la ciudad". Does this just mean "downtown" or does it mean a geographical area (like "Lower" California), or is it derogatory in the sense of "lowlife area"?

Note that, as in all of these initiatives, the police concentrate their efforts on Haitians because they are easy targets.

I wonder if Belgium Martinez is the crack whore who once turned me down as a customer?



"the lower part of the city" is what I get out of it from freetranslation.com

3somefan
07-19-2008, 07:12 PM
Street hookers in Santiago (DR) are reacting to police harassment by threatening to protest in the nude.

http://www2.elnuevodiario.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=111503

Or is this just another 3somefan promotion being hyped? The guy is a master of publicity these days.

Jesus!!! You guys already caught wind of this!! I was trying to get them all totally organized first then the contest would begin! The best naked street walk!! :wink: :D :lol: :rofl:

Beads
07-20-2008, 07:29 PM
Now thats a parade to go see!

PapiQueRico
07-20-2008, 07:43 PM
This is my best shot at a loose translation but my Spanish is very basic so I would be grateful to anyone who can improve on it.

"Prostitutes of the Dominican city of Santiago threatened to undress in the streets today, to protest against a new initiative by the authorities. The spokeswoman for the sex workers, Belgium Martinez, asked the Police to let them work, otherwise, she warned, they will march naked in the streets. Martinez told the press that many of her companions are single mothers, some of them illiterate, who find it very difficult to obtain jobs and have resorted to prostitution to maintain their children.

Also, they protest that sometimes when they are caught by the Police they are forced to have sex with them and bribe them to be released. The Dominican authorities, jointly with local community organizations, initiated a campaign against dominicanas and haitianas who practiced prostitution in Santiago, a city 155 kilometers to the north of Santo Domingo. The department of Migration confirmed today that in the last four days 43 Haitian prostitutes have been caught and deported.

The head of Central Cibao Police (North), Raudo Ramirez Commas, told the press that they arrest prostitutes every day in the lower part of the city, following persistent complaints by residents. However, he added, they are set free by the courts unless they are charged with a specific crime because prostitution is not illegal in the DR. Ramirez Commas said that they will continue the initiative against the prostitutes until they succeed in driving them out of the area."

I am not sure what is meant by "la parte baja de la ciudad". Does this just mean "downtown" or does it mean a geographical area (like "Lower" California), or is it derogatory in the sense of "lowlife area"?

Note that, as in all of these initiatives, the police concentrate their efforts on Haitians because they are easy targets.

I wonder if Belgium Martinez is the crack whore who once turned me down as a customer?


It seems that the Dominican prostitutes are not breaking any law. Is it possible that the Haitian prostitutes are in the DR without proper documentation? If that is the case then they are the only ones doing something illegal.

weyland
07-20-2008, 07:51 PM
It seems that the Dominican prostitutes are not breaking any law.
So why is the Police Chief vowing to continue until they are driven out of the area (assuming I have translated that bit correctly)?



Is it possible that the Haitian prostitutes are in the DR without proper documentation? If that is the case then they are the only ones doing something illegal.
Then why pretend it is a campaign against prostitution when it is just another campaign against illegal immigrants?

PapiQueRico
07-20-2008, 08:00 PM
So why is the Police Chief vowing to continue until they are driven out of the area (assuming I have translated that bit correctly)?



Then why pretend it is a campaign against prostitution when it is just another campaign against illegal immigrants?


Clearly the police are acting outside of the law, as the actions of the court indicates. Are you asking why the police are corrupt?

There are many legal behaviors that specific segments of a society might find distasteful and try to elliminate. This is also true in both of our countries.

greydread
07-20-2008, 08:04 PM
So why is the Police Chief vowing to continue until they are driven out of the area (assuming I have translated that bit correctly)?



Then why pretend it is a campaign against prostitution when it is just another campaign against illegal immigrants?
It's a show for the Pilgrims. As long as the Puritans believe that they can turn the whoremongering heathens into god fearing bible quoters and transform 42nd street into DisneyWorld these guys will say whatever it takes to lure the investors.

The Police chief didn't get his position for being the best cop.

BTW their LE "pretends" to be chasing crime when actually punishing illegals for the same reason ours does. Can you imagine being deported from the D.R.? Most people get deported to that mothafucka.

frisky46
07-22-2008, 01:52 AM
Clearly the police are acting outside of the law, as the actions of the court indicates. Are you asking why the police are corrupt?

There are many legal behaviors that specific segments of a society might find distasteful and try to elliminate. This is also true in both of our countries.
I;ve been to santiago back in 2005 and never seen any putas ; where about are they ; what part of town and are they cheaper then sosua

Inconego
07-22-2008, 10:01 PM
I;ve been to santiago back in 2005 and never seen any putas ; where about are they ; what part of town and are they cheaper then sosua

LOL! Frisky I was thinking the same thing... All I pulled out of this article was:

"What part of the lower area of Santiago do I need to stop by for the hos?"

Good man Frisky... Great minds think alike...

weyland
07-23-2008, 02:29 AM
What part of the lower area of Santiago do I need to stop by for the hos?
... and when you find out, mark it on a map for Ajax718 so that next time he drives me to Santiago for the night he can make sure I get laid!

David Smash
07-24-2008, 03:35 AM
LOL! Frisky I was thinking the same thing... All I pulled out of this article was:

"What part of the lower area of Santiago do I need to stop by for the hos?"

Good man Frisky... Great minds think alike...


I don't know where "lower" Santiago is but for me when I was there in 2006 I found hoes in around the casinos and the Monument.

Tony Toca
07-24-2008, 07:59 AM
LOL! Frisky I was thinking the same thing... All I pulled out of this article was:

"What part of the lower area of Santiago do I need to stop by for the hos?"

Good man Frisky... Great minds think alike...

I remember see streetwalkers (Short-shorts and fishnets even) during a late-night beer-run shortly after the drinking curfews were in place. It was 10-15 blocks below the Aloha Sol hotel (away from the monument) and to the left.

One of the street intersections was 30th de Marzo & 16th de Augosto. It is just right next to a town square.

I did not get out the car, we had a walker actually get the beer for us. Man, it was a real shady sceen.

Donny Boy
07-24-2008, 08:52 AM
So from what I am reading here there are little to no putas in Santiago?
Maybe Rover or someone you hits Santiago on a reg basis can chim in and confirm.

Hemp
07-24-2008, 09:31 AM
Rover or Elvis would best answer any and all Santiago questions.