View Full Version : Seed Garden arrives! (Trip #2)
seedGarden
01-13-2005, 12:43 PM
Hey Fellas,
Me and my friend have arrived, we got jerked out of our room at Europa....but have bounce back and got a room last night at the domino bar (behind it) ...today we get a room at the Palace for at least one night...after that I guess we will be looking again.
I wanted to catch up with some of you today....I am wearing a light blue tshirt and a red and white NBA headband...my friend is wearing a black shirt and blue basketball shorts.....we are hard to miss....a black guy and a spanish guy....
Alright, hope to catch up
gdogg
01-13-2005, 05:29 PM
Look for KnottyDread. He has um....well..Knotty Dreads!
:D
seedGarden
01-13-2005, 06:36 PM
dam G, i saw you......andI missed you......I'm in the bottom floor,...the room with the swing....i think 2N........come in anytime
Jimmydr
01-13-2005, 08:39 PM
dam G, i saw you......andI missed you......I'm in the bottom floor,...the room with the swing....i think 2N........come in anytime
That would be A-2 :D
Hey Fellas,
Me and my friend have arrived, we got jerked out of our room at Europa....
What happened there?
seedGarden
01-14-2005, 12:45 PM
Europa gave me a quote for one thing then another once I was here....it could have been a missunderstanding but then they didn't honor either price....really bad business practice.
Jimmydr
01-14-2005, 12:46 PM
Europa gave me a quote for one thing then another once I was here....it could have been a missunderstanding but then they didn't honor either price....really bad business practice.
Not a mis understanding. Diego, the owner is an "ASS" 8)
cremaconpalo
01-14-2005, 01:02 PM
Europa gave me a quote for one thing then another once I was here....it could have been a missunderstanding but then they didn't honor either price....really bad business practice.
Forewarned is forearmed: It's "the Dominican way". The banks do it, the taxi drivers do it, bars and clubs will do it if you run a tab...hell, even the chicas try to pull this when you get them back to your room... :lol:
seedGarden
01-14-2005, 01:19 PM
Ok guys....Im not a good speller so let apologize about the spelling in advanced.
Me and SexyMofo arrive at the Palace at 5:00 am. We get jerked out of our reservations....see the previous posts.
So we go over to Domino Bar and order some drinks, I am considereing drinking till the sun comes up and then seeing where the wind takes us, but the guy behind the car tells me that he has a room in the back with two apartments for 700 if Im interested....perfect. We hang at the bar for about an hr more, there is some talent around but not all that. My boy, sexymofo, who speaks no english is gettin much action. After a while I see that he is defending himself well, so I tell him Im going to go crash and just knock when he is ready to come up. I know that the way the ladies are hawking on him, he won't be alone.
6:30 he shows up with the bartender (he doesn't remember her name).....The next mourning shes still there. He didn't bother to negotiate anything before hand, so there is a little "talk" about what she is owed.....he gives her $40 US and shes pissed......he comes to my room to ask me what i think....I tell him $40 US sounds fine to me, next time just make sure you negotiate before hand. He goes back and offers her $4 more and shes so pissed she doesnt take the extra $4, just leaves cursing.
Honestly, I thought he was going to give her another $10, but he held strong. Not bad for his first time, considering he knows no spanish and in the morning he gave her his "no mercy" fuck.
Ok, we head down to the Palace to meet up with KnottyHeadedDreads and anyone else that migh be around....I run into John and tell him what happend, and he says he can hook us up with a two bedroom suite for on day.....he gives us room 2A. I don't know if anyones had the pleasure, but its the one with the swing in it........A SWING!!!
We take a nap and then go get breatfast, or maybe the otherway around...who cares...we decide to go hang out at dominos a check out the scene. One thing I promised myself was I was that I was going to negotiate so hard this trip that I wanted at least one girl to walk away dissgusted.....so we sit there and drink and smoke, not really anything we are interested in, finally I wave over a nice looking light skin girl....she is acting all lovey dovey....and i'm like how much to me and my boy can run a train on you....she looked a little shocked and I'm like "don't act like you've never been asked that". She get a little more serious and starts aking me questions, like "where we are staying and what do we want", I guess trying to size up what shes gettin into. I tell her a list of things I want prices on and she gives me the $2000 for ST for each of use...and $4000 for LT....I roll my eyes and tell her shes going to be sitting alone for a while......she comes back with "well, how much will you pay"....since i don't answer her she says to think about it, and she will be back.....she never comes back, but later in the evening shes is giving me the "whats up" wave.
I get bored and tell SM that Im going back to the hotel and be back in about an hr......I get to the Palace and there are about 5 girls, "the Guanlet"....I walk up and raise both hands like "what up"...I ask, whats up? I guess they aren't used to my attitude especially when its one on five....they get all quiet....so I'm like "oh now everyone's shy???" I walk towards my room and motion to Julisa to come on.....she gets up and follows me......shes acting all demure and shit, and I'm like, "you know we are going to rock that swing, right?"....she starts laughing....we do it in the room for a little while then, I grab her and take her to the swing, she is really alkward on it and I am making her get into all different positions one it.....we are laughing more than anything else, finally I just bend her over the sofa arm...
I'm gonna call that day one...i'll get back you guys.....I've been at the computer too long and there's this girl that just walked by.....
seedGarden
01-14-2005, 01:20 PM
It was Europa that we arrived at not the Palace.....sorry
knotty
01-14-2005, 01:27 PM
Seedgarden is a cool guy. I walked right passed him on the streets and didn't know who he was until I was back at the Palace. This is the 2nd trip for me, him, and Brooklyn357. We all are having a fucking ball.
nuhomet
01-14-2005, 01:47 PM
Ok, we head down to the Palace to meet up with KnottyHeadedDreads and anyone else that migh be around....I run into John and tell him what happend, and he says he can hook us up with a two bedroom suite for on day.....he gives us room 2A. I don't know if anyones had the pleasure, but its the one with the swing in it........A SWING!!!.....
Man! It's been about 30 min and I haven't even made downstairs yet so I head out and go downstairs. Right before I hit the bar I go past the A rooms and see Nuhome and Eric in there with about 3 chicas and A swing hanging from the ceiling......
What swing??? We don't need no stinking swings
http://members.cox.net/nuhomet/xmas/Picture%20114.jpg
http://members.cox.net/nuhomet/xmas/Picture%20113.jpg
http://members.cox.net/nuhomet/xmas/Picture%20136.jpg
http://members.cox.net/nuhomet/xmas/Picture%20080.jpg
Yes, these are all Xmas 04 pictures
Sorry about the repost. Atleast it is on topic.....
Seedgarden..... go to Sosua Live and get Danielle the bartender. She is the swing expert. She is clinically insane and likes to bit, but I saw her and my friend Eric in some swing action I didn't think possible. Worth your time. She is the last chica shown above.
BrooklynBeas
01-14-2005, 02:33 PM
My boy, sexymofo, who speaks no english is gettin much action. After a while I see that he is defending himself well, so I tell him Im going to go crash and just knock when he is ready to come up......
Honestly, I thought he was going to give her another $10, but he held strong. Not bad for his first time, considering he knows no spanish and in the morning he gave her his "no mercy" fuck.
What the hell does the guy speak?!?!?!?!?!?
Im sure it was a typo im just messin wit ya... cause im jealous again... thanks for the reports!
seedGarden
01-14-2005, 03:45 PM
Let me tell you guys, Sexymofo, is surviving on pure body language......he just walk out of the hotel like ÿo, i'm ma go get me a girl......doesn't even ask me to come with him....he only knows how to say "si and no"
by the way, Im haingin with 3 black dudes (SexyMofo, Broklyn357 & KnottyHeadedDred)....all cool, but dam its like Im with Puffy, Usher and JayZ.....Im not a bad looking guy...and the women here push me aisde to get to them.....what the fuck?!
seedGarden
01-14-2005, 03:49 PM
Sorry about the typos fellas....I type fast and don't check it...I'll try and be better with the rest of the posts.......SexyMofo only speaks English...he is increasing the vocab...he now knows "Cuanto, Una Hora & Gracias"
ilikenyacional
01-14-2005, 06:06 PM
Sorry about the typos fellas....I type fast and don't check it...I'll try and be better with the rest of the posts.......SexyMofo only speaks English...he is increasing the vocab...he now knows "Cuanto, Una Hora & Gracias"
Fuck the typos, it's fine. Just make sure to continue your daily posts!
Thank you and have fun !
psriches
01-14-2005, 06:14 PM
[quote=Goby01]
Man! It's been about 30 min and I haven't even made downstairs yet so I head out and go downstairs. Right before I hit the bar I go past the A rooms and see Nuhome and Eric in there with about 3 chicas and A swing hanging from the ceiling......
What swing??? We don't need no stinking swings
http://members.cox.net/nuhomet/xmas/Picture%20113.jpg
What's this chicas name, ratings and any other details? I used to see her at dominoes....... :wink:
BrooklynBeas
01-14-2005, 06:16 PM
Let me tell you guys, Sexymofo, is surviving on pure body language......he just walk out of the hotel like ÿo, i'm ma go get me a girl......doesn't even ask me to come with him....he only knows how to say "si and no"
by the way, Im haingin with 3 black dudes (SexyMofo, Broklyn357 & KnottyHeadedDred)....all cool, but dam its like Im with Puffy, Usher and JayZ.....Im not a bad looking guy...and the women here push me aisde to get to them.....what the fuck?!
Pull out your pesos and tape a $2000 peso bill to your forehead... i bet you they start coming to you first and they push your boys to the side...
knotty
01-15-2005, 11:45 AM
Let me tell you guys, Sexymofo, is surviving on pure body language......he just walk out of the hotel like ÿo, i'm ma go get me a girl......doesn't even ask me to come with him....he only knows how to say "si and no"
by the way, Im haingin with 3 black dudes (SexyMofo, Broklyn357 & KnottyHeadedDred)....all cool, but dam its like Im with Puffy, Usher and JayZ.....Im not a bad looking guy...and the women here push me aisde to get to them.....what the fuck?!
Pull out your pesos and tape a $2000 peso bill to your forehead... i bet you they start coming to you first and they push your boys to the side...
Yeah, that would definitely work. But he's not lying. The girls are treating him at times as the last choice. Soon as the chicas go by they do not eye him. They look dead at the rest of us, but he's a local translator.... :lol:
seedGarden
01-15-2005, 04:40 PM
Hey Fellas
Part2
ok, when last we left batman.......... I was at the palace messing around with Jolisa on the swing......I get KnottyHead, whos staying upstairs in the palace.......we got to Dominos where Sexy Mofo had met up with Brookin357.....we all come together like Voltron and its on......look out ladies....of course being that I'm surrounded by 6'2 black guys, its apparent that I'm Voltron't tail......
Anyway, we hang at Domino's for a while .....getting each others backgrounds and generally enjoyng the attention. At this point its get blurry....Brooklyn has a car and we decide that we need to get to Crystals ASAP......we drive out to POP in the dark no really knowing where we are going......Asking every 2 miles for help......we run into a gas station/pizzaria/bakery and we eat some pizza and get back on our way.
We arrive at Crystals....and its DEAD...no girls. Apparently it doesnt start happeing till after 11:30. Dam!...ok, lets head back.
Back To Dominos.....the boys are a welcome sight to the chicas...I am in need of a nap....so I tell SexyMofo to come wake me up in 1 hr. He came back and got me but I needed another hr.....he leaves and comes back in an hour done....no girl, just calling it a night....i can't believe it,but fuck it I gotta find someone....someone nice.
I get out to the strip, can't seem to find anyone.....so after about 30 mins at Classicos,a see a nice looking girl....body like a dark skinned Tyra banks.....real pretty face too (haitian)....dam shes fine...20 yrs old. I take her back and negotiate $1500 TLN...its about 2:30......I bust my first nut with her ridding me quick.....like highschool quick. no more than 10 mins go by and she wants to go again......her ass is fine enough for me to get hard again quick so no problem.....this time its reverse cowgirl and doggy....let me tell you...you know how sometimes the ass looks good when they bend over from most angles except from right above wheere your working it from? well not this one.....she felt good and looked good from everywhere....i finissh and feel like I'm gonna faint.....lay there resting for a while then we head to the livign room ...watch some TV, 30 mins and shes starts rubbing me and saying "uno mass"....shit, I'm like can we watch sportcenter first?...Someone call in the secound team, its the 4rth quarter and the starters need a breather......I start with her again.....multiple positiions....for like an hour....both of us are sweatty....which I kind of like......finally,I get her laying down with me sideways and legs interlocked....kind of like a T ...I'll send a diagram for those of you who need it.....I pound her for a while....Viagra long, but its time to finish. I finally bust and thats it....I not moving for a month.
I wake up and shes getting dresses......as I see her in the daylight gettin dressed.....that body made me regret I din't bring a camara, no scars, no stretch marks, tits are at attention...her name is Cassandra.
ok, Sexymofo wakes up right after she leaves.....and we see that Broolly357 is at the palace...metting up with Guttaman......we get Knotty and head out to breakfast.
Part 3 tomorrow....
BrooklynBeas
01-15-2005, 05:16 PM
yo seed... go buy a fuckin disposable camera... NOW! you can get one from the store next to Mav's shop... the supermarket across from PJ's or any other lil store... it may cost u 10-15 bucks but come on you need some kind of souveniors... pics are the best!
Start getting TLN for 1000 pesos guys that was the limit we were supposed to go by..... especially at 3 or 4 am its the leftovers in the club they go back to your place where there is A/C and hot water and a comfy bed with 1000 pesos or they go home to their shithole with nothing!!!
Jimmydr
01-15-2005, 06:24 PM
yo seed... go buy a fuckin disposable camera... NOW! you can get one from the store next to Mav's shop... the supermarket across from PJ's or any other lil store... it may cost u 10-15 bucks but come on you need some kind of souveniors... pics are the best!
Soon Mavs store will carry them.
gdogg
01-16-2005, 02:24 AM
Yo Seed,
Looks like you caught a winner with Cassandra. Keep up the good work!
8)
maylay sparks
01-16-2005, 05:46 AM
seed garden, How can you insult your 3 friends like that and call them Usher, Jay Z, P diddy. Usher and P didy and jay z's music is so gay. Why not compare them to some real emcess.
gdogg
01-16-2005, 09:05 AM
seed garden, How can you insult your 3 friends like that and call them Usher, Jay Z, P diddy. Usher and P didy and jay z's music is so gay. Why not compare them to some real emcess.
I think he was referring to their POPULARITY, not mc abilities.
Black Ghost
01-16-2005, 12:40 PM
seed garden, How can you insult your 3 friends like that and call them Usher, Jay Z, P diddy. Usher and P didy and jay z's music is so gay. Why not compare them to some real emcess.
I think he was referring to their POPULARITY, not mc abilities.
Regardless this guy said Hov, Diddy, and Usher's Music was GAY!!!
( well mabey usher)
He thinks....
HIV......................False
Hallucinations........Not a side Effect
Talented people.....GAY
Whats next? :?
gdogg
01-16-2005, 02:18 PM
seed garden, How can you insult your 3 friends like that and call them Usher, Jay Z, P diddy. Usher and P didy and jay z's music is so gay. Why not compare them to some real emcess.
I think he was referring to their POPULARITY, not mc abilities.
Regardless this guy said Hov, Diddy, and Usher's Music was GAY!!!
( well mabey usher)
He thinks....
HIV......................False
Hallucinations........Not a side Effect
Talented people.....GAY
Whats next? :?
Hmmm. Interesting deductions. LOL--->Usher comment
:D
seedGarden
01-17-2005, 11:13 AM
Hey Fellas,
Ok, after I meet up with 357, knotty and SM, we head out to breakfast at La Roca....This place has very good food, prices aren't too bad either, KnottyHead, is drooling over this lightskined green eyed bandit, but she isn't a Pro, 357 is making sure he is sittng somewhere he can see the street action and me....I can't even think about fucking after the night I just had....i mean, I am shut down...the sexdrive is powred down.....357 doesn't want to hear that....he has some "vitamins" he wants to give me, but that last thing I want is to be sitting in a 3rd world country emergency room with a rock hard dick, talking about "Mr SeedGarden, we are going to have to subdue it with this hammer".
We spend some of the daytime looking for a Hotel, 357 really comes through driving us around....I gotta tell you guys, me and SexyMofo, just met 357 and KnottyHead, and I couldn't imagine getting along the way we did, everyone was real real cool....each one had thier thing, that we made fun of KnottyHead is the veteran cat, that knows most of the girls...yet for some reason he decided to bring some girl (he didn't even end up with) to classicos for us...as SexyMofo put it "bringing sand to the beach". SexyMofo, he had the stalkers on him...it was like watching a wounded animal in the desert...with the vultures hovering. First night it was a dominos bartenter that showed up everywhere we were, then there was "Vice Grip" as she is know cause she grabed 357 wrist, and he couldn't break free....she would see SM wherever we were and it was like she owned him or something, no girl would approch while she was around....she was a mean looking bitch, thick and cute, but had that look like you might be done for a few days after SHE fucked you ...then there was Angie, who was trying to get the inside scoop on my boy everytime she could, that ho wanted to marry him.....she sat in front of Classicos, right nex to the door waiting for his ass......and finally Brooklyn357, my man looked like he feel in love with his hos.....don't let him fool you on his posts.....we would be like "dam, I don't know, theres just something about her, that I need to break out the baby oil and spend some serious time with her" of about like 3 girls while I was around, he would see one and I knew we weren't seeing him again for 6-8 hrs....one time we started checking the churches and jewelry stores for him cause we couldn't find him....I was like, hes either getting married and we didn't get invited or butt-naked tied up to a toilet...and all his shit is gone.
ok, back to the day - Brookly357 helps us out and we finally get a room at the Caribe...$40 for 2 for one night only.....its real nice though, mostly for families, so the only condition is that we don't turn our room into a fuckfest thats going to offened others....i.e., no orgies :cry:
we go back to Dominos and just drink and hang out for a while.....SexyMofo find Anyi (light skined, tall girl, looks good with no make up, really nice tits) or she finds him, who knows, all I know is he asks me to tell her $1200 for 1 hr....and I tell her $1000 for 1 hr.....she says no for 45mins....which is fine with him...and he dissapares for like 3 hrs. He must have fucked her to love cause she would have stayed with him the rest of the trip for nothing...but like we say, your not paying to fuck your paying for them to leave, right?
357 is dying....he has a moster nut to bust and he is trying to find the right girl to destroy....there is a thick greened eyed girl that he met the last time he was here that he is thinking about, but since we are planning on going to Crystals, he wants to hold out till he sees a 10 there that he can really do some damage to :twisted: ....so he decides to go and says he will be back in 40 mins...and we will head out.....
Part 4 to come....
knotty
01-17-2005, 11:41 AM
the girl from SosuaLife. I brought her back to the room. She just switched up on me from TLN to ST. She actually was fucking with me last night, but I wasn't in the mood for her again. Brooklyn357 caught her grilling me while I had my free chica, "P", on the side of me.
"Mr SeedGarden, we are going to have to subdue it with this hammer".
Great report SeedGarden...and a funny as line!
gdogg
01-17-2005, 04:50 PM
"Mr SeedGarden, we are going to have to subdue it with this hammer".
Great report SeedGarden...and a funny as line!
I was just about to type the same thing! Hilarious line. It's good to see you're enjoying yourself and thanks for keeping us posted.
8)
BrooklynBeas
01-17-2005, 07:29 PM
seed garden, How can you insult your 3 friends like that and call them Usher, Jay Z, P diddy. Usher and P didy and jay z's music is so gay. Why not compare them to some real emcess.
I think he was referring to their POPULARITY, not mc abilities.
Regardless this guy said Hov, Diddy, and Usher's Music was GAY!!!
( well mabey usher)
He thinks....
HIV......................False
Hallucinations........Not a side Effect
Talented people.....GAY
Whats next? :?
WHat do you know ... I finally agree with Pete Ro... uhm i mean Black Ghost.... Usher aint gay... He smashed Chili and he sure he fucks more bitches and hot ones then we can only hope for.... as for talent Jay-Z is one of the best ever rappers, P-Diddy is a business minded giant and although i dont really care for him when he tries to perform... he is a genious.... and Usher has talent... and as mentioned b4 i doubt it very much that he is gay... whenever someone becomes rich and famous there are always haters that say they are gay...
Gdogg,Big Trick, & da lurker.... are like Usher, Ludacris, and Lil Jon...
Referring to the ATL of course... not lyrically
Jesus...rap. Never understood the deal with this art form.
To me it's just bragging and hating and threatening. I will never understand it.
seedGarden
01-18-2005, 10:17 AM
fellas,
I was just saying my boys were attracting crazy attention, ...superstar status, regardless of how good they are.
Man, it's so hard coming back and being a normal Joe Shmoe. That is by far the hardest adjustment to make. Especially, on the longer trips. You just get used to being a pimp. :cry:
BROOKLYN_357
01-18-2005, 11:45 AM
seedgarden busting me out like that...saying i'm falling in love, hahahaha...you just mad cause your poker skills could not compare to mine, but i wont bust you, knottydread, and the (so-called poker veteran sexy mofo) out like that, lol
continentalmike
01-18-2005, 12:27 PM
Man, it's so hard coming back and being a normal Joe Shmoe. That is by far the hardest adjustment to make. Especially, on the longer trips. You just get used to being a pimp. :cry:
You can continue that when you're back.. jsut gotta keep hitting it the same way as over there!!!!!!!
Don Tomas
01-18-2005, 12:32 PM
Man, it's so hard coming back and being a normal Joe Shmoe. That is by far the hardest adjustment to make. Especially, on the longer trips. You just get used to being a pimp. :cry:
You can continue that when you're back.. jsut gotta keep hitting it the same way as over there!!!!!!!
Most American women would file sexual harrassment charges if you hit it like you do in the DR. :shock:
continentalmike
01-18-2005, 12:35 PM
wouldn't know.. just hitting the Latina and Antillean bars in Holland.. shit goes down the same way... I also found that a lot of Western women are cool with a more agressive approach.. they give it up just as easy when they see you with a couple of fine sista's... makes them wonder
Don Tomas
01-18-2005, 12:37 PM
... I also found that a lot of Western women are cool with a more agressive approach...
They dig your accent! :D
continentalmike
01-18-2005, 12:43 PM
... I also found that a lot of Western women are cool with a more agressive approach...
They dig your accent! :D
They might... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Seriously though if you (not you DT) act more like a man than you'll get more respect from a woman.. take it slow, tell her you want to see if you can be friends first.. ask them for a date and when they accept, tell them you don't want to go on dates with women with saggy breasts, you like them firm and perky; do they still qualify?
Tease them mercilessly, qualify them, make them jump through hoops, let them doubt their self-worth..
Let me tell you it works more often than you might think
jd_mine
01-18-2005, 04:44 PM
just hitting the Latina and Antillean bars in Holland
So where are those bars in the Randstad?? I only know the colombian restaurant in the Hague and a club in Rotterdam. [/quote]
Black Ghost
01-18-2005, 08:26 PM
tell them you don't want to go on dates with women with saggy breasts, you like them firm and perky; do they still qualify?
Classic! Works like a charm ....... :wink:
maylay sparks
01-20-2005, 05:58 AM
The thing I have against Jay Z is that he compromised his creativity. I think he is a good rapper too, He wraps his rocawear clothes up real good in packages. As far as a rhymer he is played out. I know a lot of artists that suck big that have no money and it just so happens 98 percent of the mainstream rappers suck big time. Not only do they give payolla for videoplay but they do for radio airplay.
BrooklynBeas
01-20-2005, 09:05 AM
The thing I have against Jay Z is that he compromised his creativity. I think he is a good rapper too, He wraps his rocawear clothes up real good in packages. As far as a rhymer he is played out. I know a lot of artists that suck big that have no money and it just so happens 98 percent of the mainstream rappers suck big time. Not only do they give payolla for videoplay but they do for radio airplay.
Once agian we disagree here Malay... I dont see many rappers who are better then Jay-Z... ever!... yes he talks about his clothing line but why not its free advertisement... thats what a business man is all about... played out why cause he claims to be retired? He will be back i think he just did that cause he wasnt getting along with Dash and isnt he now the president of Def Jam... or he has some high spot with them... I would like to know who you think is a good rapper or business man...
knotty
01-20-2005, 09:22 AM
The thing I have against Jay Z is that he compromised his creativity. I think he is a good rapper too, He wraps his rocawear clothes up real good in packages. As far as a rhymer he is played out. I know a lot of artists that suck big that have no money and it just so happens 98 percent of the mainstream rappers suck big time. Not only do they give payolla for videoplay but they do for radio airplay.
Once agian we disagree here Malay... I dont see many rappers who are better then Jay-Z... ever!... yes he talks about his clothing line but why not its free advertisement... thats what a business man is all about... played out why cause he claims to be retired? He will be back i think he just did that cause he wasnt getting along with Dash and isnt he now the president of Def Jam... or he has some high spot with them... I would like to know who you think is a good rapper or business man...
Yeah, he's the President of Def Jam.
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