Stricter Rules for carry-ons!!!

[3somefan]

As a result of the failed terrorist attack yesterday, there are some new rules everyone should he aware of!!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_airline_attack_regulations


Airlines: New rules keep passengers in seats

By JOAN LOWY, Associated Press Writer Joan Lowy, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 32 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Some airlines were telling passengers on Saturday that new government security regulations prohibit them from leaving their seats beginning an hour before landing

The regulations are a response to a suspected terrorism incident on Christmas Day.

Air Canada said in a statement that new rules imposed by the Transportation Security Administration limit on-board activities by passengers and crew in U.S. airspace. The airline said that during the final hour of flight passengers must remain seated. They won't be allowed access to carryon baggage or to have any items on their laps.

Flight attendants on some domestic flights are informing passengers of similar rules. Passengers on a flight from New York to Tampa Saturday morning were also told they must remain in their seats and couldn't have items in their laps, including laptops and pillows.

The TSA issued a security directive for U.S.-bound flights from overseas, according to a transportation security official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to speak publicly.

The official said passengers traveling internationally could see increased security screening at gates and when they check their bags, as well as additional measures on flights such as stowing carryons and personal items before the plane lands.

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said in a statement Saturday that passengers flying to the U.S. from overseas may notice extra security, but she said the measures "are designed to be unpredictable, so passengers should not expect to see the same thing everywhere."

A Nigerian passenger on a Northwest Airlines flight from Amsterdam allegedly attempted to start a fire as the plane prepared to land in Detroit on Friday, according to authorities. The incident has sparked a major international terrorism investigation.

Air Canada said it was limiting passengers to one carryon bag in response to a request from the U.S. and Canadian governments.

The airline advised U.S.-bound passengers to restrict their carryon item to "the absolute minimum" or to not carry any bag on board at all.

"Carriage of any carryon item will result in lengthy security delays for the customer," the airline said.

U.S.-bound flights on all airlines are experiencing significant delays, said Duncan Dee, Air Canada's executive vice president and chief operating officer.

A spokeswoman with Infraero, a Brazilian government agency that oversees airport infrastructure, said that airlines had been asked by federal authorities to add another layer of security for international flights originating in the country after the attempted attack in the U.S.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because she was not authorized to discuss the matter, said that passengers would face an extra screening that would take place just before they boarded planes. She would give no more details, citing security concerns.

David Castelveter, a spokesman for the Air Transport Association, said the domestic airline industry has been in close coordination with the security administration since Friday's incident and there will be increased scrutiny of passengers. He declined to comment on whether new regulations have been put in place.

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Associated Press writers Eileen Sullivan in Washington and Bradley Brooks in Rio de Janeiro contributed to this report.

[3somefan]

So this looks like it is going to limit the amount of carry-on luggage we can bring on. This is going to hurt the guys who like to just bring on carry-on. It is also going to pad the airlines pockets because the extra bag that will now need to be checked in, will bring a fee with it. I hope the government asks the airlines to drop a fee for a bag that is now regulated to be checked in, instead of fucking us over again!

[the_Jayman]

the last hour of the flight I need to use the bathroom like 3 times . . . the booze is flowin strong and the seal has long since been broken . . .

Is this going to affect my alcohol intake on my flight ? ? ?

[3somefan]

the last hour of the flight I need to use the bathroom like 3 times . . . the booze is flowin strong and the seal has long since been broken . . .

Is this going to affect my alcohol intake on my flight ? ? ?

I think we will need to invest in those things you can piss in without having to go to the bathroom for those flights!! :eek:

[Kevy]

the last hour of the flight I need to use the bathroom like 3 times . . . the booze is flowin strong and the seal has long since been broken . . .

Is this going to affect my alcohol intake on my flight ? ? ?

Sounds more like it will affect your alcohol outflow:rofl:

[SeaWeed]

the last hour of the flight I need to use the bathroom like 3 times . . . mi too......and mi always use the bathroom in the last twenty minutes before wi land........don't know about this......dem better start building bathrooms at every gate for when wi get off the planes......lol

[tomgueguen]

mi too......and mi always use the bathroom in the last twenty minutes before wi land........don't know about this......dem better start building bathrooms at every gate for when wi get off the planes......lol

One incident and without giving them the time of reflection they change the rules.

That 's stupid.

Another incident and they 'll have to lock the passengers on their seat when they get on the plane and untlil they land.

Risk zero doesn't exist...

[3somefan]

One incident and without giving them the time of reflection they change the rules.

That 's stupid.

Another incident and they 'll have to lock the passengers on their seat when they get on the plane and untlil they land.

Risk zero doesn't exist...

I agree 100% with you Tom!!

[Klockman]

Was reading quite a few articles posted on other boards and the general consensus is this limit on carry-ons was in place before this maroon, it was to encourage people traveling over the holidays to "check" all their extra luggage as it becomes problematic when carry on space is taken with boatloads of gifts from Grandma

Also read that Westjet has already advised that the limit on carry-ons will be relaxed for travel after December 30. As for no bathroom breaks, the rule was already in place that you had to return to your seat when the seat belt light was on anyways, they're just going to turn it on earlier. You can still use the shittery you just can't "lounge" around the galley or shoot the shit with someone 5 seats behind you anymore

There's also been quite a bit of hysteria about flight delays from YYZ to the USA, which is i part due to extra security but also helped by freezing rain and closed runways delaying flights from landing. This won't go on as the airlines aren't going to deal with lost revenue due to missed connections.

Also read that AC was first to jump on board with the new policy for flights USA bound, yet CO, UA and US also flying from YYZ did not.

2010 is an Olympic year in Canada that begins in 6 weeks, it's a golden goose for the airline industry, they aren't going to kill it.

I predict there'll be a bunch of yadda, yadda and over reaction, tightened security at some International cities with flights US bound and the never ending debate over what's a liquid and what's a gel, will continue indefinitely.

I have 4 monger trips booked, only one (unfortunately the first one) has a USA connection. I won't bring any luggage I don't need and I will bring one carry-on as opposed to 2. I'm expecting by the date of my trip (Jan 12th, we will be back to normal)

I do expect that air travel will suck the hind teat for the next few weeks though

[Klockman]

I suspect that will happen shortly in the New Year is that the "security" charge we pay as part of the taxes on our tickets will be raised and we'll see the same security we have now, we'll be told that the "system" is being overhauled for our safety but we'll never know the specifics.

A few guys that post on travel sites commented that YYZ was the same today no difference with the glaring exception that ALL US flights were delayed, including some as long as 4 hours and many were canceled outright.

This has a bigger effect on travel than 9/11 or the shoe maroon had. The US travel industry was crippled after 9/11 and much money was spent to build up confidence and keep all these airlines in business, you start cancelling flights, which in turn cancels hotels, which in turns drives up fares and taxes for those of us flying in half empty planes.

For those of us that travel to SA, especially MDE, BOG and GIG already see much more security, I predict that North American travel will be raised to that level before they start expecting people to wear depends.

But ya ya, don't get drunk on flights for the next month!

[the_Jayman]

But ya ya, don't get drunk on flights for the next month!

I'll make ya a deal . . . I won't get drunk on a plane for the next 21 days ! ! ! :corky: :corky: :corky:

[Macky]

All because of mutherfucking terrorists, we have to turn our world upside down!!!
If people were doing their job, this mutherfucker would have been stopped. First of all he buys a one way ticket; HELLO, RED FLAG!; Second he boarded in fucking Nigeria!! One could only imagine what security must be like over there.
Eventhough this mutherfucker didnt succed in blowing up the plane, he still accomplished a secondary goal of terrorists, and that is to wreak havoc on our travel system by forcing our gov't to implement new restrictions thereby raising travel costs even more and causing fear.

[blacksultan]

All because of mutherfucking terrorists, we have to turn our world upside down!!!
If people were doing their job, this mutherfucker would have been stopped. First of all he buys a one way ticket; HELLO, RED FLAG!; Second he boarded in fucking Nigeria!! One could only imagine what security must be like over there.
Eventhough this mutherfucker didnt succed in blowing up the plane, he still accomplished a secondary goal of terrorists, and that is to wreak havoc on our travel system by forcing our gov't to implement new restrictions thereby raising travel costs even more and causing fear.

Guantanemo the muthafucka.

[Klockman]

All because of mutherfucking terrorists, we have to turn our world upside down!!!
If people were doing their job, this mutherfucker would have been stopped. First of all he buys a one way ticket; HELLO, RED FLAG!; Second he boarded in fucking Nigeria!! One could only imagine what security must be like over there.
Eventhough this mutherfucker didnt succed in blowing up the plane, he still accomplished a secondary goal of terrorists, and that is to wreak havoc on our travel system by forcing our gov't to implement new restrictions thereby raising travel costs even more and causing fear.

Not meant to fuel your anger but he was also on a no-fly list so both the people in AMS that let him on a plane bound for the US AND the guys in the USA who have a list of passengers enroute both fell down on this

A week, two tops of paranoia, then we'll see security fees jacked up and everything will return to our regularly scheduled travel

[the_Jayman]

Not meant to fuel your anger but he was also on a no-fly list

NO SHIT ? ? ?

fuckin idiots ! ! ! :banghead: :bash: :bash: :bash: :banghead:

[ralphie1]

had read that he was NOT on the no fly list, but that he was under some scrutiny because his father contacted the us embasy as to his fanatical religious beliefs and fears his son would try something

[JD426]

This is exactly parallel to the GUN laws & criminals. The authorities DO NOT ENFORCE the Regulations already IN PLACE, but they want US (innocent law abiding citizens) to consent to even MORE regulations. We get penalized and inconvenienced because people don't do their jobs in the first place.
Laws and regulations protect NOONE, PEOPLE protect PEOPLE.
What we are dealing with is a clusterfuck of incompetence, and the terrorists are WINNING. The goal of wreaking havoc as bxfcsosua stated earlier, has been accomplished.




had read that he was NOT on the no fly list, but that he was under some scrutiny because his father contacted the us embasy as to his fanatical religious beliefs and fears his son would try something

Thats what was said, his own father warned us , and it was IGNORED. How the F*** do they expain that one ??

[Tiger]

had read that he was NOT on the no fly list, but that he was under some scrutiny because his father contacted the us embasy as to his fanatical religious beliefs and fears his son would try something


That is true. He was not on the no fly list but was on the terrorist watch list.

[Tiger]

Being in the Detroit area there are interviews in the local newspapers with passengers that live in this area.

One such interview with a couple who are lawyers retuning from a safari.

They stated that they saw a very nicely dressed and rich looking Indian man approached the ticket counter in Amsterdam with a scaggly looking younger man wanting to buy a one way ticket to Detroit for the young man. The young man did not have a passport of visa. The pair was sent off to the manager.

As the incident was in progress the guy said that he was one of the passengers that left his seat to help put out the fire and subdue the terrorist. He was very surprised to see that it was the same scraggly man he saw in Amderdam.

Come on now........a scraggly middle eastern male buying a one way ticket to the US with no passport, no visa, no luggage and apparently no money......and they left him on the flight!?!?!?!

[Klockman]

had read that he was NOT on the no fly list, but that he was under some scrutiny because his father contacted the us embasy as to his fanatical religious beliefs and fears his son would try something


Good gravy!

That's even worse

[Macky]

It's such a shame and a disgrace that in this post-9-11 age, such lapses in security could occur, and let's not forget about that couple getting into the white house. We have a lot of problems.

[Klockman]

AC has pulled that lengthy BS laden blurb about staying in your seat....yadda yadda from it's travel advisories.

However still lengthy delays when travelling from to any US destination with additional scrutiny on flights to tourist locations (MCO..etc)

The one carry on rule is causing the issues as there's seems to be many people that either didn't get the memo or are being stubborn about they will and won't check, have also read that many departure gates are being closed until closer to flight times, this I don't understand.

Beginning tomorrow I will check to see if my destination (CLT) is being delayed much, my hopes are since it's a 6:30 AM flight, people should know by then what will and won't be allowed on the flight, and if people can stop disrupting the AMS-DTW flight I hope we'll be back to normal.

It's not going to happen, but I'd rather AC and other airlines flying to the USA delay passengers when checking in and give out a "carry-on" tag to each person (just one) Then you decide then what's important to you to have on the plane, doing this search at the gate just adds to the frustration, IMO. Plus doing it at the check-in gives you the option of not getting on the flight if you so desire. get to the gate and dig in your heels, flight goes nowhere until your baggage is found an removed.

[tomgueguen]

Time to set up a new airline company: NNL AIRLINES

Naked and No Luggages!!!

[jacknback]

we who don't break the law always suffer because of those who do and they always say it's for our protection. don't let the mutha fukka on the plane so i can bring my carry on instead of paying the friggin airlines to carry my bag!

[tomgueguen]

What I also like in DR is this sensation of freedom far from the many rules of a developped country.

The problem in developped country is that people doesn't accept any risk anymore and prefer give up their freedom for being "protected".

[the_Jayman]

What I also like in DR is this sensation of freedom far from the many rules of a developed country.

:notworthy: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :notworthy:

[Klockman]

Beginning tomorrow I will check to see if my destination (CLT) is being delayed much, my hopes are since it's a 6:30 AM flight, people should know by then what will and won't be allowed on the flight, and if people can stop disrupting the AMS-DTW flight I hope we'll be back to normal.

Checked the YYZ departures this A.M. for YYZ-USA flights that were scheduled first thing in the A.M. (6:00-7:00 AM)

http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByAirport.do

4 different flights, 4 different carriers, to IAD flying at 6:00 ALL canceled

Both Cincinnati, all 6 JFK, two BOS and two EWR canceled, will have to see if weather was a factor

The Chicago flights were 3 hours late, Detroit 2 hours and Atlanta 90 mins late, although see 4 other Chicago flights that did leave on time so consistency seems to be lacking. As well I see some flights to BOS that did go on time.

But the good news for me is the CLT flight left on time, I really hope this keeps up

I hope we have a return to normalcy as expected after NYE

[mikelodge]

the last hour of the flight I need to use the bathroom like 3 times . . . the booze is flowin strong and the seal has long since been broken . . .

Is this going to affect my alcohol intake on my flight ? ? ?

You can always go Astronaut and where the huggies. :lol::rofl::p:eek::lol::rofl::p:eek:
We're good bro my 2 partners just both got back in the last day and a half no problems. I will let you all know how we do this weekend.

[Dragonlorde]

Time to set up a new airline company: NNL AIRLINES

Naked and No Luggages!!!


Sign me up for this flight. Just make sure it is full of chicas.

[mikelodge]

Time to set up a new airline company: NNL AIRLINES

Naked and No Luggages!!!


http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/imagehosting/thum_160414ad5307a1e056.jpg (javascript:void(0))

My Flight will be NNL after a short weekend of hardcore partytime in Fl and the SkyClub lounge pre-flight. :lol: