Driving Tips on the North Coast.

[DominicanBilly]

After living here since 1992 and driving both a motorcycle for the first 5 years and a van since 1997 I have developed a sixth sense as to how the Dominicans drive. I'm sure some of the other long term residents can add to these observations.

The only laws, which seem to be enforced on the north coast, are: You must wear your seat-belt and don’t get caught talking on you cell phone. AMET will ticket you.
If you do, you have to pay a fine of 1,500 Peso. There was a great seat-belt-campaign in 2002, which succeeded in 90% of the Dominicans now wear seat-belts.
Their cars and trucks may not have a windshield or lights but they are wearing their seat-belts. ps: Only the driver is required to wear it.

The right of way is given to the vehicle which is on the bigger street. Also "might" is right and always has the right of way. Also look both ways on one-way streets.

Green light indicates, that you can go, still be cautious, it's possible, other cars could - will cross on the red.
Red light shows you down: Please stop and check the traffic. If you cannot see anybody, you can drive on. AMET checks the light at the Playero supermarket for running the red there.

You can pass a car on the right or left side. It doesn't matter. They all drive like “grande prix” race drivers and take apex of the corner. Eg: on a left hand curve they will drive into the oncoming lane because it cuts down the corner and they can maintain their speed.

Lines on the road, center line, traffic lanes and cross walks are for the tourists to follow, none of the Dominicans pay any attention to them.

Driving with alcohol or other drugs isn't allowed, but there is no real control.

If you are involved in an accident and somebody is injured, "you are in trouble" and a blood check in hospital may be required with lots of bribes to stay out of jail. Usually everyone else makes out better than the injured party.

Speed limits do exist, but there is no real control. Over in Santo Domingo they even have speed traps but not here on the north coast. But you shouldn’t drive more than 120 kilometer on highways and 80 kilometer on other roads. Usually the roads are so bad that you can't safely drive that fast anyway. Inside villages reduce to 40 kilometer, because children play on the streets.

Don't change direction too quickly. This can’t be stressed too much! So, if you want to change direction, please show it very clearly and do so slowly.

If a Dominican lowers his speed, they show it to you by waving a hand out of a window you know they are about to do something stupid. The more they wave then expect the worst.

This is very important!!! If you want to make a left turn, it's possible that other cars or motorcycles will still pass on the left hand side, even if the right lane is open and they can’t see if anything is coming from the other direction.

[weyland]

Special care when driving at night as many, many motos have no lights, some cars have no lights, animals stray in the road (one of our neighbours was killed last week running into a cow), and pedestrians in the road are often hard to see because of their dark complexions.

Whether day or night, pedestrians will walk along, or step into, the road assuming we can clearly see them. Drivers will know this is not the case and it is worse at night or in the rain.

Generally Dominicans have no awareness of other people, whether it is on the road, walking along the sidewalk, or in supermarkets with their carts. They have no judgment of speed or distance and vehicles are poorly maintained, lacking brakes, lights, some gears, and with loose parts. The roads have horrendous potholes, manhole covers are collectors' items here, lighting is poor or non-existent, signage is poor, non-existent, or downright misleading causing drivers to crawl along looking for places or make sudden U-turns.

Life is cheap here, tempers are short, and there are a lot of guns and knives about.

Enjoy your drive! :)

[Corrado]

Also, a small add on to Billy's post be aware that almost everyone uses their high beams at night, regardless of oncoming traffic. A lot of vehicles have upgraded headlights, (we call them Euro Lights where I am from in the U.S.) because there are very few street lights when you leave the center of most pueblos. They are SUPER intense and will blind you even from a far distance.

[Trib]

Thanks for all who contributed. I just finished a trip where I drove in the DR for the first time. I knew going in it was my responsibility to be very defensive while driving but that gem about the hand waving would have been good to know.

I was driving near Hotel Colibri and a guy stopped short waving like mad. not knowing I started to pass. 2 moto guys were fighting in the middle of the road and I almost creamed them.

I realized it at the last minute but the ENTIRE street yelled when I tried to pass. I was stunned becasue the driver waving just stopped to watch as there was no one blocking him. I nearly passsed a diamond after that but figured the next waving hand would be heeded LOL

[knotty]

Also, a small add on to Billy's post be aware that almost everyone uses their high beams at night, regardless of oncoming traffic. A lot of vehicles have upgraded headlights, (we call them Euro Lights where I am from in the U.S.) because there are very few street lights when you leave the center of most pueblos. They are SUPER intense and will blind you even from a far distance.
good to point out. and they seem to turn on their high beams as they are approaching the opposite traffic. Normal folks usually turn their high beams off, but down there, they seem to turn them on blinding you.

[steviewonder]

Also take caution especially from the passenger side as many man hole covers are missing on side walks:eek:, especially in POP. Had a buddy 2 weeks ago break his leg stepping into one out of my car, but he avoided having to swim out of there only if we could have found him!:rofl:

[steviewonder]

Also unlike in other countries, the cops just ride all day and night with thier lights flashing for no reason at all. You need not pull over as they are just reminding the public that there are cops on the streets doing something! If they want you, they'll sound thier horn and ride up to your side and show you the finger to pull over...:biggrin:

[snoozer]

The best rule of thumb to drive by is "expect the unexpected".

I usually drive every day when I am on my month long trips to the DR and I find I become a better driver than I am in Canada. You have to be constantly aware of what is happening around you.

The one thing that I can never get used to is the motos with no tailights at night. I usually give long blast on my horn as I pass them, probably will not make them run home and fix their lights but it makes me feel better!!

[Mr Hillbilly]

Nice tips Billy you must finally decided to post more maybe Jimmy can keep people from pestering you.
One thing though make sure you explain they are going to jail even if have credit card full coverage they have to have cash to buy them out also explain even best insurance you guys chatted about name keeps you out jail but your locked up in a house for maybe what 6 months? and you kill some crazy on motorcyle what rest of your life? Only way avoid all those is not rent a car unless you want new boyfriend hoodlem.

[Mr Hillbilly]

I was thinking about this on way home from Airport. Motorcycles in the DR are similar to white tailed deer in Michigan you never know when where one is going to pop up.

I am done renting cars in the DR a gringo could easily kill one of crazies on moto.Then bye bye!

[SeaWeed]

I think renting a moto or car is financial suicide in the DR........nothing but nightmares if there is a problem.....

[Mr Hillbilly]

I don't recommend you rent a car period in the DR under any circumstances unless you want to be in Jail or locked up house getting held hostage till you make reporations to victim.

Imagine if this happened you get caught with a girl with fake ID? You are screwed.

[SeaWeed]

Imagine if this happened you get caught underage with girl and fake ID? You are screwed.
that's a very good point.......plus if she got the least bit hurt in the accident......even like a backache........
you get screwed even more.......what a nightmare

[weyland]

Imagine if this happened you get caught underage with girl and fake ID? You are screwed.
ISOC members do not go with underage girls. End of story!

While I fully sympathise with your newfound horror of rentals (recent converts are always the most zealous - I look forward to your quitting drinking next!) you are confusing the issue here. You might as well say "Imagine if this happened when you have a dead body or US$1,000,00 in bills or an unlicensed Kalashnikov and a copy of the Koran autographed by Osama bin Laden in the trunk".

[DCIronman]

ISOC members do not go with underage girls. End of story!

While I fully sympathise with your newfound horror of rentals (recent converts are always the most zealous - I look forward to your quitting drinking next!) you are confusing the issue here. You might as well say "Imagine if this happened when you have a dead body or US$1,000,00 in bills or an unlicensed Kalashnikov and a copy of the Koran autographed by Osama bin Laden in the trunk".

Finally! The voice of reason. While I too sympathize with the OP, you could spend all day inventing horrific scenarios, most of which, only the most idiotic individuals would actually be caught up in. Or you can think of viable plans for extigent circumstances, and ways to minimize your risk. Sort of like the advice the more experienced members have been offering.

I will continue to rent vehicles in the DR as I've done for years. It's way more convenient at times than public transpo for me. And it ehances my experiences greatly. My wingmen and I have made local contacts that we can call upon for assistance. And we feel confident in being able to handle most situations.

The day I feel that I can't drive in the DR will be my last day visiting. But that's just me. To each his own.

[Mr Hillbilly]

Finally! The voice of reason. While I too sympathize with the OP, you could spend all day inventing horrific scenarios, most of which, only the most idiotic individuals would actually be caught up in. Or you can think of viable plans for extigent circumstances, and ways to minimize your risk. Sort of like the advice the more experienced members have been offering.

I will continue to rent vehicles in the DR as I've done for years. It's way more convenient at times than public transpo for me. And it ehances my experiences greatly. My wingmen and I have made local contacts that we can call upon for assistance. And we feel confident in being able to handle most situations.

The day I feel that I can't drive in the DR will be my last day visiting. But that's just me. To each his own.

I said same thing a week ago ; go look for my posts, if didn't have a car I wouldn't go.I have every toy you can think of vehicle wise minus airplane and helicopter and drive oh 50000 miles a year or so in these vehicles . Not like I am someone who never drives .Have class A commercial license and drive those vehicles also have 0 ploints on my record.

But it has been 8 weeks since last time I drove there and quite frankly my driving skills did not adjust to new vehicle and I forgot about the crazy driving my skills did not adjust yet only there for 20 hours or so .
Repetition is mother of all skill after week driving down there after flying in a person gets acustomed to it.

[SeaWeed]

I will continue to rent vehicles in the DR as I've done for years.you crazy mon!

[Mr Hillbilly]

When you guys go to jail after renting a car don't call me if I am there for a loan but please call me so I can get a picture of your face while the hoodlems are raping you.
Unlike Weyland I will get a picture of them and their cell probably next week and it will be my Avatar foto.

[weyland]

Unlike Weyland I will get a picture of them and their cell probably next week and it will be my Avatar foto.
Damn, when did I become your staff photographer? I hope it pays better than being Jimmy's butler!

[DCIronman]

When you guys go to jail after renting a car don't call me if I am there for a loan but please call me so I can get a picture of your face while the hoodlems are raping you.
Unlike Weyland I will get a picture of them and their cell probably next week and it will be my Avatar foto.

I promise that I won't call you. I have a number of local contacts saved to my phone that would serve me much better. And why would you want pictures of me being raped in prison? Never mind. I really don't want to know.

Sorry, but I can't oblige you on this one. Because anal invasion isn't part of the plan. And I doubt that would change even if I somehow suffered from extreme brain damage and became stupid enough to drive drunk in a third world country.

[Kevy]

Damn, when did I become your staff photographer? I hope it pays better than being Jimmy's butler!

It looks like you spent more time as Jimmy's butler.:rofl:

[DCIronman]

you crazy mon!

Lol! Well I guess I've been crazy for about 8 yrs now. But during that time, I've seen parts of the country very few tourists see. I've banged fresh young chicas that very few tourist mongers ever see. And I've been able cram a ton of great experiences into my vacations by not limiting them to 6 blocks and a beach. And I've done that on my time schedule.

Gotta tell ya, crazy's been real good to me.

[Mr Hillbilly]

Hate to break news to you but had nothing to drink .

[JD426]

When you guys go to jail after renting a car don't call me if I am there for a loan but please call me so I can get a picture of your face while the hoodlems are raping you.
Unlike Weyland I will get a picture of them and their cell probably next week and it will be my Avatar foto.

Which one is going to Wear the Cape, the Anchor Guy ?

[Mr Hillbilly]

You guys think I am kidding at night 10 of them are husband and wife a spooning a few with each others arms it varied . I decided I was going to be husband if came down to it.
I am not afraid to tell the DARK shit.I don't get embarrassed .

[Dick Dawson]

Let's try to keep to the original topic of this thread since it is a sticky and most newbies will come across it.

[papi_sosua]

I have said it before, and I will say it again: nothing magical about driving in the DR!!!! It's all common sense, keep it moving, and think ahead...

Worst drivers are in the US: one thumb up their ass, and cell phone in the other hand. They cut you off at 60 mph+ just to belatedly make their exit, rather than do a "go-around".

In Germany, coming from a town w/ a heavy US military presence, we had a saying: "If traffic slows down, it is either a 70-year old driving wearing a hat. Or an American."

[psriches]

I have said it before, and I will say it again: nothing magical about driving in the DR!!!! It's all common sense, keep it moving, and think ahead...

Worst drivers are in the US: one thumb up their ass, and cell phone in the other hand. They cut you off at 60 mph+ just to belatedly make their exit, rather than do a "go-around".

In Germany, coming from a town w/ a heavy US military presence, we had a saying: "If traffic slows down, it is either a 70-year old driving wearing a hat. Or an American."Ohhhh, now i get it!!!:rolleyes:

[JD426]

Ohhhh, now i get it!!!:rolleyes:

Hes got a point though. Only an American would fly all the way to Germany, Rent a Car, get on the Autobahn, and STILL NOT know what the high beams mean in the left lane.

[MrHappy]

Special care when driving at night as many, many motos have no lights, some cars have no lights, animals stray in the road (one of our neighbours was killed last week running into a cow), and pedestrians in the road are often hard to see because of their dark complexions.

Whether day or night, pedestrians will walk along, or step into, the road assuming we can clearly see them. Drivers will know this is not the case and it is worse at night or in the rain.

Generally Dominicans have no awareness of other people, whether it is on the road, walking along the sidewalk, or in supermarkets with their carts. They have no judgment of speed or distance and vehicles are poorly maintained, lacking brakes, lights, some gears, and with loose parts. The roads have horrendous potholes, manhole covers are collectors' items here, lighting is poor or non-existent, signage is poor, non-existent, or downright misleading causing drivers to crawl along looking for places or make sudden U-turns.

Life is cheap here, tempers are short, and there are a lot of guns and knives about.

Enjoy your drive! :)

Read this part again. It pretty much explains everything.

While we are taught from the beginning to be aware of other drivers and what they are doing, drive defensively and show a little courtesy, the overwhelming majority of Dominican drivers do not have that mindset.

Most drivers in beat up cars and on bikes do NOT have a license, do NOT know how to drive, don't have insurance, don't own the vehicle, and a very large portion of them are illiterate.

As Weyland and Billy pointed out, they are blissfully unaware of any situation that could cause them harm or injury. The only thing they concentrate on is where their vehicle is headed.

Their mindset is that if they occupy a space first, no problem. When they pull out in front of you when you are approaching at a high rate of speed, that's YOUR problem, not theirs. They got there first, so it's their space, not yours.

[DCIronman]

One of the things that kills me about dominican drivers is that they don't give a fuck about staying in their own lanes. It's like those dividing lines painted on the road don't mean shit.

[MrHappy]

One of the things that kills me about dominican drivers is that they don't give a fuck about staying in their own lanes. It's like those dividing lines painted on the road don't mean shit.

Read my last post. Of course they don't mean shit. Very few drivers in this country have the slightest idea of rules of the road and driving conduct.

If you're illiterate and don't have a license, how would you know what the rules are, if there's no one to teach you?

[DCIronman]

Read my last post. Of course they don't mean shit. Very few drivers in this country have the slightest idea of rules of the road and driving conduct.

If you're illiterate and don't have a license, how would you know what the rules are, if there's no one to teach you?

Okay, I just read that post. And it explains a lot of the madness I've seen while driving there. But once you've resigned yourself to the fact that no one else is following any traffic rules, it's a lot easier to drive defensively. I don't believe that accidents are inevitable. In my experience, most can be avoided by driving defensively. And if some motoconchista is reckless enough to run into my car through no fault of my own? Oh well. Good luck with that. I hope he's okay. But under most circumstances, I aint stickin around just so I can have the privilege of paying for his recklessness.

Motoconchos are a plague on the north coast. And not just for tourist drivers. They injure, maim, and kill locals and each other with appalling regularity. Just this last trip in Feb., I saw the aftermath of one of the worst accidents I've ever seen while driving from Santiago to Sosua. Two motoconchos almost hit each other in front of a van full of people right in front of the Shell gas station right before you get to Puerto Plata. And the van hit a pole trying to avoid them. Everyone was driving slow trying to see the accident and a crowd had gathered. The two motoconchistas were standing in the street arguing and were totally unscathed. However, the driver of the van, as well as a few of the passengers, were unconscious and bleeding profusely. It was a horrible scene. One which stuck with me two entire trip.

[Mr Hillbilly]

You guys don't understand the concept of how the Dominicans get their licenses they either got to school for 6 months or pay I forget the amount 20 thousand pesos for a bribe in front of Drivers license office so they don't have any driving rules or training.

[Mr Hillbilly]

Which one is going to Wear the Cape, the Anchor Guy ?

That cape would have made nice bed and blanket seeing there was none only rough concrete and stone.

[DCIronman]

You guys don't understand the concept of how the Dominicans get their licenses they either got to school for 6 months or pay I forget the amount 20 thousand pesos for a bribe in front of Drivers license office so they don't have any driving rules or training.

Seriously?!?!:eek:

Well hell, I probably wouldn't have a driver's license either. I swear, I feel like La Republica Dominicana is its own worst enemy. I'm willing to bet that less than 20% of its citizens can readily dish out that kind of cash.

[papi_sosua]

Germany makes some of the finest, most sought-after, mass-produced car brands in the world. Arguably, it also makes some of the finest drivers. Getting a driver's license in Germany does not compare to getting one in the DR or US...

Keep rolling your eyes until they fall out of their sockets...:)


Ohhhh, now i get it!!!:rolleyes:

[WickedWillie]

Seriously?!?!:eek:

Well hell, I probably wouldn't have a driver's license either. I swear, I feel like La Republica Dominicana is its own worst enemy. I'm willing to bet that less than 20% of its citizens can readily dish out that kind of cash.

Bad info given out there. The cost of a driving licence is around RD$1,300. You can pay a bit more for VIP service (means you go to the front of the line)

You don't need 6 months of tuition either, but there is a multiple choice exam done on a computer, blood test, eye test and an actual driving test. Some of these can be overlooked with the exception of the blood test.

Check out the requirements and current costs here:
http://seopc.gov.do/servicios/licencia_de_conducir.html

[DRboundagain]

You guys don't understand the concept of how the Dominicans get their licenses they either got to school for 6 months or pay I forget the amount 20 thousand pesos for a bribe in front of Drivers license office so they don't have any driving rules or training.
Where did you get that info from?

Dominicans take a test, yes and no questions on a pc. Then wait 45 days and take a road test. 20K pesos for a bribe,,,,,,,,,,no way do they pay that kind of money

These are the fees as of last year:

Driver’s License: RD$455
Exam: RD$200
Medical Exam RD$40
Classification Fee: RD$75
Taxes: RD$20
Cost of Forms and Services: RD$85
Total: RD$855

[psriches]

Germany makes some of the finest, most sought-after, mass-produced car brands in the world. Arguably, it also makes some of the finest drivers. Getting a driver's license in Germany does not compare to getting one in the DR or US...

Keep rolling your eyes until they fall out of their sockets...:)OK p!! :wink:

[papi_sosua]

I am impressed! And I mean it...

To add: Tailing the front car by 4 yds. at 120 mph+ w/ the left turn light continously on ON, has the same meaning.
Get your sorry ass out of the left lane...


Hes got a point though. Only an American would fly all the way to Germany, Rent a Car, get on the Autobahn, and STILL NOT know what the high beams mean in the left lane.

[DCIronman]

Bad info given out there. The cost of a driving licence is around RD$1,300. You can pay a bit more for VIP service (means you go to the front of the line)

You don't need 6 months of tuition either, but there is a multiple choice exam done on a computer, blood test, eye test and an actual driving test. Some of these can be overlooked with the exception of the blood test.

Check out the requirements and current costs here:
http://seopc.gov.do/servicios/licencia_de_conducir.html

Well, that certainly seems a bit more reasonable. Though I'd still bet serious money that less than 10% have driver's licenses.

[Mr Hillbilly]

Where did you get that info from?

Dominicans take a test, yes and no questions on a pc. Then wait 45 days and take a road test. 20K pesos for a bribe,,,,,,,,,,no way do they pay that kind of money

These are the fees as of last year:

Driver’s License: RD$455
Exam: RD$200
Medical Exam RD$40
Classification Fee: RD$75
Taxes: RD$20
Cost of Forms and Services: RD$85
Total: RD$855



One of my friends girlfriends needed drivers license he is going through process now .
While the amount in question I don't quite remember? he was taking her through proper channels rather than pay bribe maybe you know him he has the used clothes store near sports bar on south leg of main entrance on your way down to the beach from PJs in that little mini mall.

Yep the bribe in question he did not want to pay bribe he wanted her to pass her drivers test on her own.

[snoozer]

My novia borrrowed a rental CRV yesterday to pick me up at the airport, she has taken some lessons but is still very green, I would never have the balls to drive here with as little experience as she has. When she was driving through her residential area she was going through intersections without looking for any traffic coming from other directions.

They drive like they live their whole lives, that is without any consideration for the future consequences of their actions.