Sosua streets..the clean-up has started.

[WickedWillie]

Some may recall that there is a reasonably well supported local campaign to rid the strip in Sosua of hookers and move them someplace else to make Sosua more family friendly.

This campaign was endorsed by the Illana, the new mayor, in her election manifesto.

She took office a couple of weeks ago and it looks like action has already started.

The chief of police has been replaced by the guy who was responsible for the Sosua clean-up back in the 90's.

He has promised to clean up the streets, starting with the Haitianas (easy target, undocumented aliens I guess) and then the Dominicanas with everything done within 3 months by December.

He has said, allegedly, that he wants Sosua to only have casas, similar to those found in Bavaro.

As of last Saturday night all Haitianas are banned from the bars on the strip, ironically the Dominicanas support this.

I don't know if Bar Central is included in this yet,

Any Haitiana caught on the streets is to be arrested. 45 were locked up on Saturday night.

I know a few Haitianas that were too scared to venture out last night.

There is a hooker meeting planned for today or tomorrow to discuss protest action and it is being mooted that a huelga will be held on Tuesday or Wednesday in front of the deputy mayor's bar, El Flow.

That should be interesting.

I did suggest that they should burn condoms and panties instead of tires.

[LJDMV]

Wow, I sure hope this is not true. I am glad I am making my trip next month. If they get rid of the chicas on the strip thing will be boring there for us traveling there for the chicas. I hope that guys visiting in the next few weeks can update us on this issue.

[Señor Jimmy of Medellin]

Wow, I sure hope this is not true. I am glad I am making my trip next month. If they get rid of the chicas on the strip thing will be boring there for us traveling there for the chicas. I hope that guys visiting in the next few weeks can update us on this issue.

Last time they did this, they killed the town. If they want more tourists, they need to lower the taxes.

[naptime]

I have no interest in casas. Sosua for me, is about more than just fucking. It's the beach, the shops, the women on the strip, the gringos you meet, etc....

Take away the women from the street and you destroy everything about the atmosphere.

I can honestly say that if chicks are not allowed on the strip, and if you can only Fuck in a casa, then November will be my last trip. There are plenty other places that want my money, and ask for it without taxing the shit out of me in the process.

[whynotme]

I have no interest in casas. Sosua for me, is about more than just fucking. It's the beach, the shops, the women on the strip, the gringos you meet, etc....

Take away the women from the street and you destroy everything about the atmosphere.

I can honestly say that if chicks are not allowed on the strip, and if you can only Fuck in a casa, then November will be my last trip. There are plenty other places that want my money, and ask for it without taxing the shit out of me in the process.
looking forward to seeing you in pattaya and ac:D

[papi_sosua]

This policy has been in force since mid-Summer already.

It is not that Haitianas are banned from bars, but they are not allowed to frequent a bar ("hang out") without consumption.

I know that the owners of Bar Central enforce this policy as they are worried about loss of business license.



[...]

As of last Saturday night all Haitianas are banned from the bars on the strip, ironically the Dominicanas support this.

I don't know if Bar Central is included in this yet,

[...]

[LJDMV]

Amen to that brother. I am with you 100% on that. No women on the street in sosua and it is a no go for me.


I have no interest in casas. Sosua for me, is about more than just fucking. It's the beach, the shops, the women on the strip, the gringos you meet, etc....

Take away the women from the street and you destroy everything about the atmosphere.

I can honestly say that if chicks are not allowed on the strip, and if you can only Fuck in a casa, then November will be my last trip. There are plenty other places that want my money, and ask for it without taxing the shit out of me in the process.

[princepointe]

Some may recall that there is a reasonably well supported local campaign to rid the strip in Sosua of hookers and move them someplace else to make Sosua more family friendly.

This campaign was endorsed by the Illana, the new mayor, in her election manifesto.

She took office a couple of weeks ago and it looks like action has already started.

The chief of police has been replaced by the guy who was responsible for the Sosua clean-up back in the 90's.

He has promised to clean up the streets, starting with the Haitianas (easy target, undocumented aliens I guess) and then the Dominicanas with everything done within 3 months by December.

He has said, allegedly, that he wants Sosua to only have casas, similar to those found in Bavaro.

As of last Saturday night all Haitianas are banned from the bars on the strip, ironically the Dominicanas support this.

I don't know if Bar Central is included in this yet,

Any Haitiana caught on the streets is to be arrested. 45 were locked up on Saturday night.

I know a few Haitianas that were too scared to venture out last night.

There is a hooker meeting planned for today or tomorrow to discuss protest action and it is being mooted that a huelga will be held on Tuesday or Wednesday in front of the deputy mayor's bar, El Flow.

That should be interesting.

I did suggest that they should burn condoms and panties instead of tires.



I guess the Haitians didn't get the memo because they were all over Latino's and Classico's Saturday and Sunday when I was out there. Maybe this was for only undocumented or whatever but there were definately alot of Haitians out there. Regardless, if these politicians are anything like US politicians this won't last long I think. They know where there bread is buttered. There isn't shit here for families unless there gonna build a fucking Ocean World or something.

[vewdew]

Now thats fucked up news, if they do that on a massive scale Sosua might endup being dead soon.

[vewdew]

WickedWillie, excuse my ignorance.
I never been to the DR, so here is my question.

The casas do they charge some kind of extra fee if you take chicas out?
Or you'r only allowed to keep it in the casa?

thank you in advance

[Señor Jimmy of Medellin]

WickedWillie, excuse my ignorance.
I never been to the DR, so here is my question.

The casas do they charge some kind of extra fee if you take chicas out?
Or you'r only allowed to keep it in the casa?

thank you in advance

And who is running the casas?

[vewdew]

And who is running the casas?


I see your point :)

That answers my question.

Thank you Senor jimmy

[bklyndrguy]

wow wow wow i hope its not true otherwise will need to find a new spot no way iam going back if i cant see chicas wherever i walk whats the point to be in the bar if its only guys inside i can stay home for that ill be thair in 2 days so will see

[macula]

This is awful news. I was getting ready to buy a ticket for December. I need to keep my ear to the street a little longer so I don't end up wasting my money.

[whynotme]

This is awful news. I was getting ready to buy a ticket for December. I need to keep my ear to the street a little longer so I don't end up wasting my money.
a week in ANY whore town is better than a week at home especially in Dec:rofl:

[JD426]

The cops , chief and Mayor dont run shit in that town. The business owners and the grease money DO.. You hurt the bars and restaurants, the chief can go fuck himself, he will be replaced . You cant be Chief of Police in a ghost town, and there is NO way they can convert the whole town overnight into family friendly Disney Playa Sosua , in a few years perhaps it will change, but not this way.
It all for show, always has been to see if they can LURE some more families to the AI's who are probably complaining that THEIR business is way Down, and they dont know why cause they are iditos. Just like the retards at the Hotels who RAISE prices when their occupancy is way DOWN.
its the TAXES and the Economy STUPID !! And stop trying to rip us off, or we will go elsewhere. The Haitians are not your problem, You Dominicans with absol no Business education are the problem.

[Señor Jimmy of Medellin]

The cops , chief and Mayor dont run shit in that town. The business owners and the grease money DO.. You hurt the bars and restaurants, the chief can go fuck himself, he will be replaced . You cant be Chief of Police in a ghost town, and there is NO way they can convert the whole town overnight into family friendly Disney Playa Sosua , in a few years perhaps it will change, but not this way.


The Federal gov't assigns that position and pays for that position. The business owners are mostly non Dominican.

They can do whatever they want in Sosua.

[Señor Jimmy of Medellin]

And stop trying to rip us off, or we will go elsewhere.


That will never stop, that is why many of us are going elsewhere.

[macula]

I'm still in disbelief. I hope this is all just talk. :(

[Jimmydr]

I'm still in disbelief. I hope this is all just talk. :(


How will you find another spot? Are there any other spots?:rofl:

[Seville]

In any toursit area anywhere they are trying to take advantage of the foreigners.

[Mr Hillbilly]

I was there last year during 2 different crack downs I watched them throw every unescorted girl in the Police Van right in front of the Stube.

I also watched the owner of the Stube grease the pocket of the Policeman to have him go away.

All the girls went to Cabarete instead.

[macula]

How will you find another spot? Are there any other spots?:rofl:

I'm going to have to seriously consider Medellin. I was hoping my first trip there would be at least 10 days. I just checked the price for a ticket to POP and it's $200 less, but in Medellin it appears the chicas are hotter and their prices are lower so it balances out. Decisions, decisions.

[naptime]

I'm going to have to seriously consider Medellin. I was hoping my first trip there would be at least 10 days. I just checked the price for a ticket to POP and it's $200 less, but in Medellin it appears the chicas are hotter and their prices are lower so it balances out. Decisions, decisions.

my problem with medellin, is the casas. doesnt do it for me.

i want tln, in my room, etc...

from what i keep reading, that doesnt happen if you arent fluent in spanish. otherewise you have to spend time in the casas. which of course, im not interested in.

[PapiQueRico]

How will you find another spot? Are there any other spots?:rofl:

Shit!!!!!!!!!! There goes the neighborhood!!! :p

[macula]

my problem with medellin, is the casas. doesnt do it for me.

i want tln, in my room, etc...

from what i keep reading, that doesnt happen if you arent fluent in spanish. otherewise you have to spend time in the casas. which of course, im not interested in.

Yeah, I hate the idea of casas, too. I wanted to save Medellin until I got more experienced as a monger lol. Sosua for me is the minor leagues. I feel like I'm being forced into the majors before I'm ready lol.

[Ram]

I don't like casas. I like to be in my comfort zone. I am not even a big fan of fucking at girls places. No...don't like that idea at all.

[PapiQueRico]

my problem with medellin, is the casas. doesnt do it for me.

i want tln, in my room, etc...

from what i keep reading, that doesnt happen if you arent fluent in spanish. otherewise you have to spend time in the casas. which of course, im not interested in.

You don't need to be fluent, just conversant. You should be working on that anyway!

Of course, if you stay at one of the Casa Blancas or with John in Laureles this won't be an issue either.

I'd also suggest trying the casas. It's not been my style elsewhere, but I have become quite fond of them.

[hughgrection]

I have no interest in casas. Sosua for me, is about more than just fucking. It's the beach, the shops, the women on the strip, the gringos you meet, etc....

Take away the women from the street and you destroy everything about the atmosphere.

I can honestly say that if chicks are not allowed on the strip, and if you can only Fuck in a casa, then November will be my last trip. There are plenty other places that want my money, and ask for it without taxing the shit out of me in the process. It's not just he chica related places who will suffer also the restaurants and shops that mongers patronize

[eldorob]

This is awful news. I was getting ready to buy a ticket for December. I need to keep my ear to the street a little longer so I don't end up wasting my money.

I wouldn't sweat it. Yeah, there's a chance she could inflict some long lasting change on Sosua. But if history dictates, it'll be back to normal in a short period of time. And it's the bar/disco owners who will make sure it stays the same.

Think about it, the AI'ers aren't going to sit in Classicos till 4 in the morning buying Dominicans drinks. And that's how those bars make their money.

And even if she gets her way....the chicas will still be there and they will still want to meet us handsome gringos. I'm not worried.

[hughgrection]

I wouldn't sweat it. Yeah, there's a chance she could inflict some long lasting change on Sosua. But if history dictates, it'll be back to normal in a short period of time. And it's the bar/disco owners who will make sure it stays the same.

Think about it, the AI'ers aren't going to sit in Classicos till 4 in the morning buying Dominicans drinks. And that's how those bars make their money.

And even if she gets her way....the chicas will still be there and they will still want to meet us handsome gringos. I'm not worried.

even us ugly gringos:)

[JuanElGriego]

Yeah, I hate the idea of casas, too. I wanted to save Medellin until I got more experienced as a monger lol. Sosua for me is the minor leagues. I feel like I'm being forced into the majors before I'm ready lol.

There's nothing 'major leagues' about visiting casas in Colombia.

They're just whorehouses. You pick the one you like and fuck her in the back room.

If you decide you're being pushed out of Sosua because of this new enforcement (assuming it lasts) but don't find visiting whorehouses in an urban city very much fun, look into Rio. Several guys here can help you out with info.

[pixall7887]

I guess i might have taken my first and last trip here then. Variety is the spice of life and they are tryinging to limit me to one option.

[sopranostingray]

I can tell you that as of right now, there has not been any change on the streets. The only Haitians being picked up are the street kids. Many many new hookers on the streets in the past week and many in the bars. Also, there has no mention of this clean up by anybody here. If it changes, I will post.

[ralphie1]

they can try to clean the streets up, possibly even make some changes but nothing drastic or long lasting will really happen

look here in the states when they try to clean an area of town up. the gals simply move somewhere else.

if we continue to travel down, there is money there to be made hooking, the grils will figure out how to make it work.

it may change some, still gonna be there though

too many girls provide for too many people (children, bf's, siblings, parents, etc..) for that to all just end. also, it goes further than that. the hotels , restaraunts, bars, taxicab companies, etc... are not going to have their livelihood ripped out from under them. too many people involved, more than just the girls that are doing the hooking.

they will fight back

[GrandePadre]

they can try to clean the streets up, possibly even make some changes but nothing drastic or long lasting will really happen

look here in the states when they try to clean an area of town up. the gals simply move somewhere else.

if we continue to travel down, there is money there to be made hooking, the grils will figure out how to make it work.

it may change some, still gonna be there though

too many girls provide for too many people (children, bf's, siblings, parents, etc..) for that to all just end. also, it goes further than that. the hotels , restaraunts, bars, taxicab companies, etc... are not going to have their livelihood ripped out from under them. too many people involved, more than just the girls that are doing the hooking.

they will fight back

Its a matter of economics. From what I gather Sosua doesn't really have the infrastructure to make it a true tourist destination. Once all the bars restaurants and hotels start closing down and your tax base dwindles they will realize it is a mistake. However, from what I gather about DR, it won't even get to that point. Mongers are dropping way to much cash for someone to just turn off the money faucet because they want to make it family friendly. Classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[Apos]

I would go to Sosua just for the beach and to see my friends. I'd actually like it better without all the hustlers and associated BS and the lack of "hookers" is not a bad thing at all. Women are women and you're not going to change what they want and need.

I can see how it would be off-putting to many but to the guys that already hit the smaller towns and visit el campo, etc...it would be an improvement. The "tourists" will find another spot...

[Apos]

That's fine logic but unfortunately you're talking about the DR...peple do not generally think about the future or plan properly.

They did it, or tried at least, in Sosua years ago and in Boca Chica too...Didn't really work or for long but it all but killed BC and Sosua has not been the same since. Except for perhaps 2004 and 2005 when the peso was 50+:1 and prices had not been fully adjusted. Since then it's been "all downhill" and hitting bottom is inevitable! This will just speed up the process.
Its a matter of economics. From what I gather Sosua doesn't really have the infrastructure to make it a true tourist destination. Once all the bars restaurants and hotels start closing down and your tax base dwindles they will realize it is a mistake. However, from what I gather about DR, it won't even get to that point. Mongers are dropping way to much cash for someone to just turn off the money faucet because they want to make it family friendly. Classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[Apos]

I agree with your first 4 lines...but the rest is wishful thinking IMO
they can try to clean the streets up, possibly even make some changes but nothing drastic or long lasting will really happen

look here in the states when they try to clean an area of town up. the gals simply move somewhere else.

if we continue to travel down, there is money there to be made hooking, the grils will figure out how to make it work.

it may change some, still gonna be there though

too many girls provide for too many people (children, bf's, siblings, parents, etc..) for that to all just end. also, it goes further than that. the hotels , restaraunts, bars, taxicab companies, etc... are not going to have their livelihood ripped out from under them. too many people involved, more than just the girls that are doing the hooking.

they will fight back
How? Huelgas accomplish nada and "the people" have no power....none at all!

[Apos]

Aren't "casas" technically illegal or at least heavily controlled? Essentially pimping?

How would it work if they actually removed all the street action?

How does it work in Bavaro?

[hugrad95a]

Fuck it just go to the Dominican hangouts. Colimido's or what ever they are called.

[psriches]

Fuck it just go to the Dominican hangouts. Colmado's or what ever they are called.And that's what's so crazy about this!!

The biggest Colmado (EL Flow) is owned by the Deputy Mayor.

Only in DR!!!! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[GrandePadre]

And that's what's so crazy about this!!

The biggest Colmado (EL Flow) is owned by the Deputy Mayor.

Only in DR!!!! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

IF they want to make it tourist friendly just make it so they can't come out until 10pm. Its really not that difficult.

Hell when I lived in Hawaii the prostitution was crazy. They just made sure to not come out till around midnight when all the "families" were tucked away in bed.

[psriches]

IF they want to make it tourist friendly just make it so they can't come out until 10pm. Its really not that difficult.

Hell when I lived in Hawaii the prostitution was crazy. They just made sure to not come out till around midnight when all the "families" were tucked away in bed.You can not apply logic to DR!!!

Hunger and greed trump logic. They only live for today.

[GrandePadre]

You can not apply logic to DR!!!

Hunger and greed trump logic. They only live for today.

Damn it...I can't get that common sense thing out of my head when talking about DR.

[vewdew]

Well we can all hope this is goin nowhere.

And if it does hopefully wont last long.

[vewdew]

And there will be guys there every month that can keep us updated on the situation.

[Apos]

There are guys that live there too :D

[slipheed]

And even if she gets her way....the chicas will still be there and they will still want to meet us handsome gringos. I'm not worried.

I'm not worried either. Someone will stop her soon enough, wether it be the bar owners or locals. She can't be that stupid to completely ruin the towns economy.

Though this may in fact be a way to thin out the Haitians.

[Apos]

She may be naive but she won't be the first to, try to, shut down the "adult" business conducted in the open in Sosua.

Haitians are not the problem and they, like other visible minorities in other countries, are a valuable but often maligned group. It's not their fault that things are now so desperate in their country that they feel the need, nay necessity, to travel to Sosua for a better chance to earn enough for the survival of their families. It's too easy to blame the poorest especially when they cannot defend themselves.

The real problem is not enough $$$ in the local economy due to many factors most of which are beyond the control of the Mayor or the local business owners.

It'd be pretty difficult to stop her short of killing her. Perhaps she can be swayed with $$$ though...time will tell.
I'm not worried either. Someone will stop her soon enough, wether it be the bar owners or locals. She can't be that stupid to completely ruin the towns economy.

Though this may in fact be a way to thin out the Haitians.

[questner]

Wait, wait...

This has nothing to do with a mayor. There was a major national police and politur rotation.

There was a roundup. All the detained were streetwalking and had no cedula and were dominicanas. Basically, they locked up younger girls with no cedula who might be working, which is right thing to do. But in a dominican way, the release is 500 pesos. I discussed it with my dominican girl of the night who hates haitians and bailed out her "happy half-hour":rofl:

[GrandePadre]

I wonder which monger offered her 500 for ST?

[vewdew]

I wonder which monger offered her 500 for ST?


Dont look at me sacase, I am not there :)

[Apos]

As WickedWillie stated in the opening post of this thread the mayor endorses this action and it was part of her election platform. I was in Sosua pre and for the election...she was VERY popular. AND the same guy that just about killed Sosua 12 or 13 years ago...more or less for time anyway, is back again with seemingly the same mandate.

While I'll be surprised if the again take it that far again I won't be shocked...the writing has been on the wall for a long time and sooner than later someone was bound to actually try to "clean up" Sosua. It does have a rather, well deserved, filthy reputation....although it's really not that bad or even noticeable unless you are seeking it out. After dark is another issue but...:rolleyes:


Wait, wait...

This has nothing to do with a mayor. There was a major national police and politur rotation.

There was a roundup. All the detained were streetwalking and had no cedula and were dominicanas. Basically, they locked up younger girls with no cedula who might be working, which is right thing to do. But in a dominican way, the release is 500 pesos. I discussed it with my dominican girl of the night who hates haitians and bailed out her "happy half-hour":rofl:

Some may recall that there is a reasonably well supported local campaign to rid the strip in Sosua of hookers and move them someplace else to make Sosua more family friendly.

This campaign was endorsed by the Illana, the new mayor, in her election manifesto.

She took office a couple of weeks ago and it looks like action has already started.

The chief of police has been replaced by the guy who was responsible for the Sosua clean-up back in the 90's.

He has promised to clean up the streets, starting with the Haitianas (easy target, undocumented aliens I guess) and then the Dominicanas with everything done within 3 months by December.

He has said, allegedly, that he wants Sosua to only have casas, similar to those found in Bavaro.

As of last Saturday night all Haitianas are banned from the bars on the strip, ironically the Dominicanas support this.

I don't know if Bar Central is included in this yet,

Any Haitiana caught on the streets is to be arrested. 45 were locked up on Saturday night.

I know a few Haitianas that were too scared to venture out last night.

There is a hooker meeting planned for today or tomorrow to discuss protest action and it is being mooted that a huelga will be held on Tuesday or Wednesday in front of the deputy mayor's bar, El Flow.

That should be interesting.

I did suggest that they should burn condoms and panties instead of tires.

[GrandePadre]

It's politics, take it for what it is worth. I am not worried one way or another. I will have a blast regardless of what they do in Sosua.

[sporthobbyist]

It would be political suicide. The drastic drop in tourism would cause the Sosua economy to drop to all time lows. How can any politician assume that is OK?

I would say the majority of tourist in Sosua are there for sportfucking. Without them, the hotels would be empty, the bars/discos would be empty. The eateries would be empty. How would sosua survive? The will never happen. and if it does. I will never be back. For what? the noise? the smell of stinky 2 stroke in the air? the nice cool weather??LOL

[Apos]

It has happened before therefore it certainly can happen again. Added to that the guy that did it the last time is back and the mayor campaigned with the cleanup an important, and well received, part of her campaign.
It would be political suicide. The drastic drop in tourism would cause the Sosua economy to drop to all time lows. How can any politician assume that is OK?

I would say the majority of tourist in Sosua are there for sportfucking. Without them, the hotels would be empty, the bars/discos would be empty. The eateries would be empty. How would sosua survive? The will never happen. and if it does. I will never be back. For what? the noise? the smell of stinky 2 stroke in the air? the nice cool weather??LOL
Dominican politicians are no better than most Dominicans at forethought and planning and they do not care about the consequences if they have even thought about them. :eek:

For better of worse I bet they will actually, seriously try....Feliz Navidad :rolleyes::rofl:

[vewdew]

This is the only part I dont get.

Since 16 August Ilana Neumann took office as new mayor of Sosúa. She found the town hall in a deplorable condition: neglected, broken furniture and chaos in the administration. The accountant Rafale Roque Zapata was ordered to immediately review the books. All day (August 17) he worked and found out that the previous municipal administration has left some 13 million pesos debt.

Ok now the previous mayor left a big bill, now if the new Mayor will clean the streets it will prolly endup hurting business owners.

By doin so Wont it hurt Sosua even more?

I dont know but if she does then she is very stupid and doesnt belong in that office.

[TNT72]

This is the only part I dont get.

Since 16 August Ilana Neumann took office as new mayor of Sosúa. She found the town hall in a deplorable condition: neglected, broken furniture and chaos in the administration. The accountant Rafale Roque Zapata was ordered to immediately review the books. All day (August 17) he worked and found out that the previous municipal administration has left some 13 million pesos debt.

Ok now the previous mayor left a big bill, now if the new Mayor will clean the streets it will prolly endup hurting business owners.

By doin so Wont it hurt Sosua even more?


I dont know but if she does then she is very stupid and doesnt belong in that office.



How many are smart and do belong there??????

My guess is, there's a huge kickback for her to clean up the streets and whoever will have control of the casa's will take care of her retirement (and a VERY nice one at that!!)

[vewdew]

Ok I just found An article about cleanup, but does not refer to Putas, but does to Haitians.

[vewdew]

here is the link.

http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2010/5/31/35867/Dominican-authorities-to-remove-Haitian-children-beggars-from-streets

[Sidney]

Some may recall that there is a reasonably well supported local campaign to rid the strip in Sosua of hookers and move them someplace else to make Sosua more family friendly.

This campaign was endorsed by the Illana, the new mayor, in her election manifesto.

She took office a couple of weeks ago and it looks like action has already started.

The chief of police has been replaced by the guy who was responsible for the Sosua clean-up back in the 90's.

He has promised to clean up the streets, starting with the Haitianas (easy target, undocumented aliens I guess) and then the Dominicanas with everything done within 3 months by December.

He has said, allegedly, that he wants Sosua to only have casas, similar to those found in Bavaro.

As of last Saturday night all Haitianas are banned from the bars on the strip, ironically the Dominicanas support this.

I don't know if Bar Central is included in this yet,

Any Haitiana caught on the streets is to be arrested. 45 were locked up on Saturday night.

I know a few Haitianas that were too scared to venture out last night.

There is a hooker meeting planned for today or tomorrow to discuss protest action and it is being mooted that a huelga will be held on Tuesday or Wednesday in front of the deputy mayor's bar, El Flow.

That should be interesting.

I did suggest that they should burn condoms and panties instead of tires.
The deputy mayor, Willy, owns Latino's. Why would he support this idiocy?

[ralphie1]

Ok I just found An article about cleanup, but does not refer to Putas, but does to Haitians.


here is the link.

http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2010/5/31/35867/Dominican-authorities-to-remove-Haitian-children-beggars-from-streets

something to take note of, it says they are picking up haitians. haitian minors. doesnt say anything about haitian hookers

[hioctane]

As WickedWillie stated in the opening post of this thread the mayor endorses this action and it was part of her election platform. I was in Sosua pre and for the election...she was VERY popular. AND the same guy that just about killed Sosua 12 or 13 years ago...more or less for time anyway, is back again with seemingly the same mandate.

While I'll be surprised if the again take it that far again I won't be shocked...the writing has been on the wall for a long time and sooner than later someone was bound to actually try to "clean up" Sosua. It does have a rather, well deserved, filthy reputation....although it's really not that bad or even noticeable unless you are seeking it out. After dark is another issue but...:rolleyes:

Not noticeable? :rofl::rofl: It certainly has a well deserved bad reputation. I have been there many times and I would never recommend my non-monger friends go there. You don't need to seek it out. I had some non-monger go there... bunch of guys. They said that chicas would come up to them and grab their balls in broad daylight... and I know it's true!

BTW, speaking from a business and a non-monger perspective... Sosua is PRIME real estate near the water. If they scare off all the hookers, yes businesses would suffer.. mongers would stop going and so would the business and it would turn into a ghost town. Then the city can take over and build AIs all over catering to families... The smart businesses will do the same. So you, as a monger, can stomp your feet all you want, but if they want it bad enough, they can probably make it happen and there's nothing you can do about it.

[sporthobbyist]

It has happened before therefore it certainly can happen again. Added to that the guy that did it the last time is back and the mayor campaigned with the cleanup an important, and well received, part of her campaign.
Dominican politicians are no better than most Dominicans at forethought and planning and they do not care about the consequences if they have even thought about them. :eek:

For better of worse I bet they will actually, seriously try....Feliz Navidad :rolleyes::rofl:


Thank god for other fun locales!!
I was in sosua 4 times in 2010. Now I will stay away untill this blows over or gets resolved.

[Apos]

Most people that get grabbed are either looking to get grabbed or are targeted as easy. Generally, during the day things are relatively low key. Perhaps my perspective is different as living there changed things for me. Once you become known you are left alone....unless you're known for wanting it, jejeje

Seriously is it really that blatant now in Sosua as far as randomly being accosted by chicas? There was always a degree of relatively subtle prospecting on their part but generally it was on the DL. Night time it's the Wild West but I thought we all liked that?!! :rolleyes::rofl:

Not noticeable? :rofl::rofl: It certainly has a well deserved bad reputation. I have been there many times and I would never recommend my non-monger friends go there. You don't need to seek it out. I had some non-monger go there... bunch of guys. They said that chicas would come up to them and grab their balls in broad daylight... and I know it's true!

BTW, speaking from a business and a non-monger perspective... Sosua is PRIME real estate near the water. If they scare off all the hookers, yes businesses would suffer.. mongers would stop going and so would the business and it would turn into a ghost town. Then the city can take over and build AIs all over catering to families... The smart businesses will do the same. So you, as a monger, can stomp your feet all you want, but if they want it bad enough, they can probably make it happen and there's nothing you can do about it.
You're dead on and very perceptive about the rest....to a degree.

There's not enough business or possibility of new business in the foreseeable future to warrant building more AIs at this time. As far as preparing for the future I would be surprised at the timing but again that's something that would not shock me. There are some shrewd businessmen on the North Coast.

Who wants to bet/comment on the extent of "Russian" money/involvement behind a lot of the current "new" contruction and that planned for the next 5 years, and what that might mean for the local economy? ;):lol:

[WickedWillie]

Apos gets it. I guess the benefit of living here or having lived here.

Listen up. The hookers won't go away.

Places like Passions, Blackbeards or even Cuba Libre will continue to thrive as they are RELATIVELY discreet, as they are out of the way. I.E. they are not on the main strip.

We are really only talking about 100 meters of real estate.

Jeez some guys talk about P4P in the DR as if it only exists in that specific area.

Read some of the trip reports from Husl2001/DCIronman from Santiago or some of the recent Dr Bangkok SD trip reports to verify that P4P is alive and kicking throughout the DR.

[GrandePadre]

Not noticeable? :rofl::rofl: It certainly has a well deserved bad reputation. I have been there many times and I would never recommend my non-monger friends go there. You don't need to seek it out. I had some non-monger go there... bunch of guys. They said that chicas would come up to them and grab their balls in broad daylight... and I know it's true!

BTW, speaking from a business and a non-monger perspective... Sosua is PRIME real estate near the water. If they scare off all the hookers, yes businesses would suffer.. mongers would stop going and so would the business and it would turn into a ghost town. Then the city can take over and build AIs all over catering to families... The smart businesses will do the same. So you, as a monger, can stomp your feet all you want, but if they want it bad enough, they can probably make it happen and there's nothing you can do about it.

I am not sure about that. With the world economy the way it is right now, no one is going to be looking to build a AI in DR until people start to travel more. When the US consumer starts to get more confidence in the economy and the economy starts to recover, then MAYBE people will look to build resorts. But right now the average consumer is not going anywhere far for a AI resort.

[hioctane]

I am not sure about that. With the world economy the way it is right now, no one is going to be looking to build a AI in DR until people start to travel more. When the US consumer starts to get more confidence in the economy and the economy starts to recover, then MAYBE people will look to build resorts. But right now the average consumer is not going anywhere far for a AI resort.

There is a HUGE market for it.. It's where Dominican families go for vacation. I know lots of girl friends that go to the AIs in Punta Cana. When the economy is bad, people want to get away... but to cheaper destinations.. What is cheaper than AIs in DR? ~$100-$200 per person per day! If Sosua was a cleaned up, it could be a family destination. Did you see what Giulani did to NYC in the 90s? He drove all the smut from the city and it's like Disney now! :( It's not beyond the realm of possibility.

[GrandePadre]

100-200 is a lot of dough for most american's. Family of 4 for a week at 150 is 4200. at 9.5% unemployment people will just drive to VA beach for 1500 for a week. Hell American hotels are having problems getting people in them, do you really think people are going to get passports to travel out of country in a bad economy? When the economy recovers I agree with you, but who knows when that will be.

[Apos]

Many of the AIs in Playa Doroda closed within the last year or so "for renovation" yet there is little to no work being done...like 15 hotels overnight. If there was sufficient demand then they would not have all closed at once without any work actually being done and they would have been renovated/improved etc...and reopened. So, there's little point in reinventing the wheel a few minutes away in Sosua, not that that will stop people from trying...:rolleyes:

Also the US is not and never has been...and perhaps never will be the biggest source of tourists for the DR or even just Sosua. In the past there were tons of tourists from England and the rest of Europe but over the last few years that has gradually stropped. Hardly any English coming, practically no Greeks, fewer and fewer Italians and almost no one from pain.

Lots of reasons, some economic, and many turned away with bad press resulting in fewer charters to the point where they are seasonal at best. It's been about the worst year EVER for tourism on the North Coast and almost certainly in the last decade or so. I'm not sure what the "official" numbers are, and I wouldn't trust them anyway, but from what the people I know who have been in the DR for 10+ to 30 or more years it's just plain terrible!

[gmalet]

I've been going to Sosua and the whole Island for almost 1/2 my life.

Sosua without whores will never happen. The town would die.

I have been in Sosua when they have had crackdowns and never had a problem finding Chicas. They are all over.

[psriches]

Apos gets it. I guess the benefit of living here or having lived here.

Listen up. The hookers won't go away.

Places like Passions, Blackbeards or even Cuba Libre will continue to thrive as they are RELATIVELY discreet, as they are out of the way. I.E. they are not on the main strip.

We are really only talking about 100 meters of real estate.

Jeez some guys talk about P4P in the DR as if it only exists in that specific area.

Read some of the trip reports from Husl2001/DCIronman from Santiago or some of the recent Dr Bangkok SD trip reports to verify that P4P is alive and kicking throughout the DR.But Sosua loses it's appeal for most members if there's no street action.

[givengo440]

IDK if it's true or not but the Su was a lot lighter on the chica side and the hustlers, and more police presence hell it was lighter period. :icontd:

[Klockman]

Wasn't there an old TV show starring Karl Malden and M-Doug called the Streets of Sosua?

:corky:

[snoozer]

I stayed at one of the AIs in Playa Dorada last week. The place could handle 700 guests, there were maybe 30 there. I doubt anyone is going to build anything in the near future.

BTW, I paid $100 per night for 2 adults plus an 8 yr old.

[Sidney]

This effort seems calclated, political, and economic. If they eliminate the undocumented Haitians, there will be more money for those from RD. More RD chicas will arrive to work. The wages may rise. More money will be retained in the RD. Much less money will be sent to Haiti. Probably, less crime and agression. :)And of course, more votes for the establishment.

[weyland]

This effort seems calclated, political, and economic. If they eliminate the undocumented Haitians, there will be more money for those from RD. More RD chicas will arrive to work. The wages may rise. More money will be retained in the RD. Much less money will be sent to Haiti. Probably, less crime and agression. :)And of course, more votes for the establishment.
Haitians will continue to pour over the border because that suits the powers that be. They work much harder for much less, so more profits for business owners. And the police along the border earn ten times as much each month from bribes to let them in as they do from their official wages. Why do you think they are here in the first place? Certainly not through any altruistic sentiments on the part of Dominicans.

I totally agree with getting the hardcore hookers off the streets and pavements of Sosúa, whether Haitians or Dominicans. It will make for a more pleasant and safer environment for mongers and "straight" tourists alike. Meanwhile any puta who keeps a low profile will be able to go about her business unmolested (or no more molested than previously) after this initial burst of enthusiasm.

I don't know if it is because of this activity or just the general economic malaise, but some of the better-looking Puerto Plata haitianas who plyed their trade in Sosúa asking 2500 a night and wouldn't sleep with me here in PP for less than 2000 are now ringing me happy to come for 1500 or even 1000 TLN, so I ain't complaining. (My girlfriend is, though!).

[sosuaman]

will be there in October and report what is happening..

a couple of points...

the hookers are trapped on the island - so if they are pushed from one area they will simply scurry to another area..

this is how they make money, feed their families and support the economy..

the island has very little esle to sustain its economy other than drugs and hookers - if these are fought against by the establishment - they will just be shooting themselves in the foot - short term - I do not know about long term....

there was another post a year or so back that explained what happens to the money the putas bring in - it was an excellent post and it showed how the dinero changes hands, travels throughout the town and basically benefits everyone in town...

all excellent info in this thread..

I don't this town will ever change... hopefully not!

[vewdew]

Ya that town will change someday, now if its for the better or for the worse nobody knows.

[Señor Jimmy of Medellin]

Ya that town will change someday, now if its for the better or for the worse nobody knows.

But it has changed, totally different from 2000, when I was there.

[husl2001]

But it has changed, totally different from 2000, when I was there.

Personally, I think a few changes would definitely be for the better.

First, there's way too many homeless children on the street ("too many" defined as more than zero).

Second, drugs have hit the North Coast in a big way. There's lots of chicas on something out there.

Third, there's way too many underage chicas out there. I'm not even talking about girls turning 18 that weekend, I mean chicas who are clearly in their early teens. They need to be home, not on at the base of the stairs leading to Classico.

Fourth, something needs to be done about that "increasing sense of desperation" that many on this board have commented about in previous threads. There's a difference between chicas snatching glasses and the increase in more serious crimes that have been noted as of late.

Fifth, Haitianas have largely taken over the scene from the Dominicanas. I think many Haitian women are beautiful, but if that's what I wanted, I'd visit Port-au-Prince.

In a way, ISOCers and other like-minded folks are partly to blame. The search for the cheapest smash possible has let to an influx of hyper-desperate chicas (because of a combination of extreme poverty and/or addiction) willing to work for pennies, and those chicas bring a new level of drama with them.

It's ironic, a little like Nero complaining of all the smoke. :rolleyes:

[Mr Hillbilly]

Does this mean Jumbo is finally going to buy his Condo @ the Palms?

Hioctane the DR already has all the AI's it needs for Dominicans they are called

Cabanas.:rofl:

[hioctane]

Does this mean Jumbo is finally going to buy his Condo @ the Palms?

Hioctane the DR already has all the AI's it needs for Dominicans they are called

Cabanas.

:confused::confused:

Do you know what a Cabana is?

[lobonegro]

This is great fucking news, I just booked my flight....
Now let's see if I can get a refund outta Continental...not likely

[LJDMV]

What is good news?,,,

[Mr Hillbilly]

:rofl:
:confused::confused:

Do you know what a Cabana is?

No never been to DR, or got a BBBJ:rofl:.:rofl:

can you give me some AI advise I was thinking about your AI ideas?:rofl:




I've moved on from Sosua!


Dammit you and Darcy talking buisness I was all ears!!!!!!!!!!


Jimmy can we get a new financial, stock, buisness, real estate section ??????:rofl::rofl:

[papi_sosua]

Bar Central is thinking about transforming into a private club again. Apparently they already did that once 10 years ago when, at that time, there also was a street cleaning endeavor under way.

At that time all the action was on the inside yard away from street view with entry by "invitation only".

[hughgrection]

Bar Central is thinking about transforming into a private club again. Apparently they already did that once 10 years ago when, at that time, there also was a street cleaning endeavor under way.

At that time all the action was on the inside yard away from street view with entry by "invitation only".

Is the criteria breathing?:)

[psriches]

Ya that town will change someday, now if its for the better or for the worse nobody knows.Didn't they crack down on Boca years ago? And the town hasn't been the same since. In fact, i think that's when Sosua blew up!

[JD426]

Didn't they crack down on Boca years ago? And the town hasn't been the same since. In fact, i think that's when Sosua blew up!
Sounds about right, I stopped going to Boca Chica like 5 years ago.
10 years ago it was "bananas" as the young 'uns like to say.

[Ram]

So, it changes towns...it does not go away.

Why worry?

[Dick Dawson]

Didn't they crack down on Boca years ago? And the town hasn't been the same since. In fact, i think that's when Sosua blew up!

Yep. I remember all the talk in the DR section of WSG in the early 00s was Boca Chica. If the same thing ever happens to Sosua, another 'spot' will slowly but surely emerge.

[Mr Hillbilly]

You guys worry too much. Most of you have yet to figure out Santiago.

It is WAY better than Sosua once you figure it out.

Granted it has no beach but once you find half dozen retreat to Sosua then boot legg them in.

[DMV]

In a way, ISOCers and other like-minded folks are partly to blame. The search for the cheapest smash possible has let to an influx of hyper-desperate chicas (because of a combination of extreme poverty and/or addiction) willing to work for pennies, and those chicas bring a new level of drama with them.

It's ironic, a little like Nero complaining of all the smoke. :rolleyes:

I agree with some of the things you have said but do you really believe this last statement? Yes we come here for cheap pussy, but we didn't start this or what is being paid. Actually the prices these Hos are asking is going up not down. Now that is our fault.:mad:

Clean up Sousa permanently, yeah when I see 24hr Electric in this pais. How long have they talked about that basic necessity for growth?

Would I like to see things get better, yes but please don't put this on the mongers.

All those social ills that you mentioned is a DR problem.
"The search for the cheapest smash possible has let to an influx of hyper-desperate chicas" Monger Please:rolleyes:

[whynotme]

:rofl:

No never been to DR, or got a BBBJ:rofl:.:rofl:

can you give me some AI advise I was thinking about your AI ideas?:rofl:






Dammit you and Darcy talking buisness I was all ears!!!!!!!!!!


Jimmy can we get a new financial, stock, buisness, real estate section ??????:rofl::rofl:
we started that section but it never took off.....guess everyone wants to spend money instead of invest it:rofl:.....me too:eek:...most of the time;)
http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=865

[papi_sosua]

What nobody has mentioned yet is that at its very heart, the DR and its society, are deeply religious, catholic. All the visible activity in Sosua is just an affront to those beliefs and feelings.
Now, we all know that the religious crowd (cf. evangelicals in the US) are hypocrites. But when the hypocrites are in power, it's important to lay low and not to provide additional ammunition.

In the ultimate analysis, all the mongers (esp. Norteamericanos) and their attitudes, as per public display, are the source of this recent backslash.

P.S.: What do you think the public reaction would be if rich Dominicanos were to invade Oklahoma and publicly parade w/ all the 14-24 yrs old "virgins"?





I agree with some of the things you have said but do you really believe this last statement? Yes we come here for cheap pussy, but we didn't start this or what is being paid. Actually the prices these Hos are asking is going up not down. Now that is our fault.:mad:

Clean up Sousa permanently, yeah when I see 24hr Electric in this pais. How long have they talked about that basic necessity for growth?

But please don't put this on the mongers.

Would I like to see things get better, yes but please don't put this on the mongers.

All those social ills that you mentioned is a DR problem.

[DMV]

What do you think the public reaction would be if rich Dominicanos were to invade Oklahoma and publicly parade w/ all the 14-24 yrs old "virgins"?

If It was legal in the U.S I don't think there would be a black lash. Capitalist America would welcome and promote it.

The problem is when the powers that be or whatever you want to call them point a finger at someone else and not the real problem.

F all the religious talk.

[JD426]

What nobody has mentioned yet is that at its very heart, the DR and its society, are deeply religious, catholic. All the visible activity in Sosua is just an affront to those beliefs and feelings.
Now, we all know that the religious crowd (cf. evangelicals in the US) are hypocrites. But when the hypocrites are in power, it's important to lay low and not to provide additional ammunition.

In the ultimate analysis, all the mongers (esp. Norteamericanos) and their attitudes, as per public display, are the source of this recent backslash.

P.S.: What do you think the public reaction would be if rich Dominicanos were to invade Oklahoma and publicly parade w/ all the 14-24 yrs old "virgins"?

Virgins dont have Crying Babies who need Milk.
But I agree with your Hypocrites in Power theory.

[Jimmydr]

P.S.: What do you think the public reaction would be if rich Dominicanos were to invade Oklahoma and publicly parade w/ all the 14-24 yrs old "virgins"?


They have no reason to leave DR, their chica supply is endless.

[Mr Hillbilly]

What nobody has mentioned yet is that at its very heart, the DR and its society, are deeply religious, catholic. All the visible activity in Sosua is just an affront to those beliefs and feelings.
Now, we all know that the religious crowd (cf. evangelicals in the US) are hypocrites. But when the hypocrites are in power, it's important to lay low and not to provide additional ammunition.

In the ultimate analysis, all the mongers (esp. Norteamericanos) and their attitudes, as per public display, are the source of this recent backslash.

P.S.: What do you think the public reaction would be if rich Dominicanos were to invade Oklahoma and publicly parade w/ all the 14-24 yrs old "virgins"?

I have read alot of your stuff and is good but this one gets my WTF button but a respectful one.

[Jimmydr]

What is the meaning of success, outside the US (Canada and Europe)? Well, its a big house, cars, a wife, kids, money and young women. Successful men outside the US have pretty women on their arms, and their wives can't toss them out of their homes.


Poor women and women in need of money, all over the world know that their pussys are assets to be sold. They sell it as needed.


If this bothers you, then get an American Wife and stay home.

[DMV]

What is the meaning of success, outside the US (Canada and Europe)? Well, its a big house, cars, a wife, kids, money and young women. Successful men outside the US have pretty women on their arms, and their wives can't toss them out of their homes.


Poor women and women in need of money, all over the world know that their pussys are assets to be sold. They sell it as needed.


If this bothers you, then get an American Wife and stay home.

AMEN!!!!

All I would add is that even in America women with money know their pussy is a commodity. The problem is many don't think it depreciates.:eek:

[officemgr]

sosua is already dead or dying. Far too many people go there for the wrong reason. To live like puffy for a few days, take advantage of stupid gringos or beg and harass your way into some pesos.

[LJDMV]

Come on now. Too many guys are still going there in the past 3 months and having a ball in Sosua. It must not be that bad..

[officemgr]

Well, the level of crime and number of fights especially inside classicos has to take a toll. And only a few local businesses are getting customers. If you are not on the main strip or have higher class business you are ass out. I noticed recently that most of the local businesses will try to short change you if you don't watch them and many of them are starving for customers

[eldorob]

... Sosua is PRIME real estate near the water. as a monger, can stomp your feet all you want, but if they want it bad enough, they can probably make it happen and there's nothing you can do about it.


True, and developers (with money) don't wait for a good economy to start the ball rolling. They buy low, like any smart invester. You Snooze you lose (marketing 101)

There are already conceptual plans for the re-development of Sosua bay. Including bulldozing most of Pedro Clisante. They've already cleaned out some barios. Still doesn't mean it will happen, but if a Russian billonaire wants to make it happen, it will.

Yeah, dominicans don't plan well and projects progress at a snails pace. But a major project of this scope wouldn't be run/staffed or built by dominicans, the developer would bring in their own people.

I'm still not worried tho

[mikelodge]

sosua is already dead or dying. Far too many people go there for the wrong reason. To live like puffy for a few days, take advantage of stupid gringos or beg and harass your way into some pesos.

Now that if funny, add to that the heat and humidity and the economy.

Even Apos quit living there and went back to Canada maybe he knew the clean up was coming :lol::wink:

I bet it isn't more than 50% cleaned up by December like they want.

[mikelodge]

True, and developers (with money) don't wait for a good economy to start the ball rolling. They buy low, like any smart invester. You Snooze you lose (marketing 101)

There are already conceptual plans for the re-development of Sosua bay. Including bulldozing most of Pedro Clisante. They've already cleaned out some barios. Still doesn't mean it will happen, but if a Russian billonaire wants to make it happen, it will.

Yeah, dominicans don't plan well and projects progress at a snails pace. But a major project of this scope wouldn't be run/staffed or built by dominicans, the developer would bring in their own people.

I'm still not worried tho

I agree and they wouldn't have to be Russian.

[mikelodge]

Well, the level of crime and number of fights especially inside classicos has to take a toll. And only a few local businesses are getting customers. If you are not on the main strip or have higher class business you are ass out. I noticed recently that most of the local businesses will try to short change you if you don't watch them and many of them are starving for customers

Most of the local businesses trying to short change people too. :eek:

Sounds like Boca Chica, they tried to get me several times but didn't. Any particular places doing the short changing?

[eldorob]

I bet it isn't more than 50% cleaned up by December like they want.

If this is all about the re-development of Sosua into AI's, Condos, golf courses and a big marina, it will be a long process. Years, not months.

We got time to party.

[mikelodge]

If this is all about the re-development of Sosua into AI's, Condos, golf courses and a big marina, it will be a long process. Years, not months.

We got time to party.

The way they move it would take them almost that long to clean out and remove the Europa. :lol: But it might deserve it :eek:

[JD426]

Most of the local businesses trying to short change people too. :eek:

Sounds like Boca Chica, they tried to get me several times but didn't. Any particular places doing the short changing?

Even the money changers like the Turd between Elflow & Hermans Cigar bar are trying to do it. 500 Pesos a CLIP. Do they really think were not gonna talk about that shit ????
I though It was a fluke til it happened to a couple other guys too. They are getting really desperate. Shortchanging, thats just beyond foolish. you are killing your business on the spot when you do that.

[mikelodge]

Even the money changers like the Turd between Elflow & Hermans Cigar bar are trying to do it. 500 Pesos a CLIP. Do they really think were not gonna talk about that shit ????
I though It was a fluke til it happened to a couple other guys too. They are getting really desperate. Shortchanging, thats just beyond foolish. you are killing your business on the spot when you do that.

Street Money Changers that Cheat :eek: They Suck

[LJDMV]

Even the money changers like the Turd between Elflow & Hermans Cigar bar are trying to do it. 500 Pesos a CLIP. Do they really think were not gonna talk about that shit ????
I though It was a fluke til it happened to a couple other guys too. They are getting really desperate. Shortchanging, thats just beyond foolish. you are killing your business on the spot when you do that.

That is low if they are doing that. I try to keep away from the money guys on the street or the change gates on the strip. I usually only go to WU if i change because of to many bad stories.

[JuanElGriego]

BTW, speaking from a business and a non-monger perspective... Sosua is PRIME real estate near the water.

Sorry, but while Sosua is "near the water", its beach is a joke.

You're talking about attracting more foreigners to Sosua AI's, well all those foreigners have already been to beaches in the mediterranean and Asia and have seen crystal clear water and white sand. Sosua's beach is tiny and honestly, a turd in comparison. It will never be a big-time AI destination, hookers or no hookers. Next time you're down there, chat up any Euro couple you see. Ask them if they've been to Spain or the Greek islands and how Sosua's beach compares. Or ask C-Mike or Funkycoldmedina on here, both of them have been to both places. I enjoy lounging on the beach while i'm down there, but i'm under no illusion i'm in Santorini.

[psriches]

This is true. The area is for budget travelers at best and the majority never return!

You get what you pay for.

[mikelodge]

Sorry, but while Sosua is "near the water", its beach is a joke.

You're talking about attracting more foreigners to Sosua AI's, well all those foreigners have already been to beaches in the mediterranean and Asia and have seen crystal clear water and white sand. Sosua's beach is tiny and honestly, a turd in comparison. It will never be a big-time AI destination, hookers or no hookers. Next time you're down there, chat up any Euro couple you see. Ask them if they've been to Spain or the Greek islands and how Sosua's beach compares. Or ask C-Mike or Funkycoldmedina on here, both of them have been to both places. I enjoy lounging on the beach while i'm down there, but i'm under no illusion i'm in Santorini.

I have never been to Spain but I have seen beaches in Greece and Italy blow it away. Hell for that matter a good part of Florida does beech wise.

[JD426]

That is low if they are doing that. I try to keep away from the money guys on the street or the change gates on the strip. I usually only go to WU if i change because of to many bad stories.
NOT the street guys, Im talking specifically about the guy in that small place with the IRON bars, just as you walk past Hermans bar towards Elfow . u cant miss it.
I dont bad mouth people, or businesses for vindictive reasons , but its been confirmed this guy is doing this short change deliberately . and its Not good.

[JuanElGriego]

Most of the local businesses trying to short change people too. :eek:


This, more than hookers, is really the problem down there.

For the most part, everyone you deal with down there is poorly educated and/or a hustler. It's just not inviting for tourists. Whether you're dealing with the guy renting beach chairs or simply looking into buying something from a shop, sorry to say, but the people have no manners. They talk to you like they're talking to their brother-in-law after a six-pack. Sosua's Dominicans yell, they don't speak. They don't know to lower their voice and tone, smile, dress properly, say please and thank-you. How are you gonna get a middle-aged German couple to buy something from you or frequent your spot when you .... a) can't communicate with them even in English .... and b) are coming off as extremely desperate and pushy, despite them not really understanding what the fuck you're blabbing about?

Every fuckin' European that visits Sosua speaks English, yet the only Domicans in Sosua that speak English are the deportees. :rolleyes:

[Apos]

Many on ISOC pick up on the undercurrent, the nuances of what's happening in the Sosua area. I don't claim any special contacts or insight but when I add up what I've seen with what others notice and share and then with what the members here have picked up on it seems likely that major changes are underway.

The degree of the changes, specific plans and time frames are not common knowledge, to me at least, but something is happening with much more to happen.

I've just thought of the topic for my newest poll...or polls :rolleyes:
Now that if funny, add to that the heat and humidity and the economy.

Even Apos quit living there and went back to Canada maybe he knew the clean up was coming :lol::wink:

I bet it isn't more than 50% cleaned up by December like they want.There's some thruth to that. I spent the first 5 months of this year in Sosua testing the waters for my prospects for personal development on the North Coast and finally admitted to myself that at the very least the timing was wrong...if not outright defeat. That is still to be determined.


I agree and they wouldn't have to be Russian.
Don't have to be no, but...look around and listen. Spend a little time in the banks ;):wink:

If this is all about the re-development of Sosua into AI's, Condos, golf courses and a big marina, it will be a long process. Years, not months.

We got time to party.
You're right Eldo...The groundwork is being laid from at least Charamicos to....dare I say Cabarete. It will take years, perhaps decades but the money people are used to that.


Hang on tight "BITCHES!" :rolleyes::rofl:

[JD426]

There are so many other NICER beaches than Sosua.
My amiga from Santiago just told me about 2 of them I never even heard of. I literally had trouble finding them on GOOGLE .
Spectatucal beaches, one with supposedly the CHEAPEST and best SEAFOOD around. And They dont GOUGE the Gringos, go figure !??
Absolutely spectacular crystal clear Water .
Im betting there are hundreds of spots just like it.
Who the fuck needs Sosua for the beach & vendors?? Without the Putas, they can keep it. They want to push mongers out, no problem. Its a big island, and the chicas grow like wildflowers .

[steviewonder]

This, more than hookers, is really the problem down there.

For the most part, everyone you deal with down there is poorly educated and/or a hustler. It's just not inviting for tourists. Whether you're dealing with the guy renting beach chairs or simply looking into buying something from a shop, sorry to say, but the people have no manners. They talk to you like they're talking to their brother-in-law after a six-pack. Sosua's Dominicans yell, they don't speak. They don't know to lower their voice and tone, smile, dress properly, say please and thank-you. How are you gonna get a middle-aged German couple to buy something from you or frequent your spot when you .... a) can't communicate with them even in English .... and b) are coming off as extremely desperate and pushy, despite them not really understanding what the fuck you're blabbing about?

Every fuckin' European that visits Sosua speaks English, yet the only Domicans in Sosua that speak English are the deportees. :rolleyes:

It's because in the minds of the lower class Dominicans, every gringo that either lives here, or visits here has a money tree back home. The upper class Dominicans couldn't give a fuck about you, as long as they have their visas to travel. By the way, the middle class in this country are the expats that live here:wink:

[mikelodge]

There are so many other NICER beaches than Sosua.
My amiga from Santiago just told me about 2 of them I never even heard of. I literally had trouble finding them on GOOGLE .
Spectatucal beaches, one with supposedly the CHEAPEST and best SEAFOOD around. And They dont GOUGE the Gringos, go figure !??
Absolutely spectacular crystal clear Water .
Im betting there are hundreds of spots just like it.
Who the fuck needs Sosua for the beach & vendors?? Without the Putas, they can keep it. They want to push mongers out, no problem. Its a big island, and the chicas grow like wildflowers .

You know this might sound dumb to some people but I found the beach in Boca Chica to be just fine. Not to mention much to offer next door in Santo Domingo.

[papi_sosua]

And I've been told (source: Herman, Siempre Sol) that a recent (1 or 2 yrs ago) survey showed that 80% of first-time visitors to the North Coast do not intend to return.


This is true. The area is for budget travelers at best and the majority never return!

You get what you pay for.

[Apos]

I like the beach in Sosua, a lot. I would also like the beach in Boca Chica and next door in Andres except for the God awful port or whatever destroying the view!

http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/5b/85/93/port-of-boca-chica.jpg

(look in the distance)

I've developed my own personal strategy and method to deal with touts, beggers and others after my money. They do not affect my life at all.

[weyland]

First, there's way too many homeless children on the street ("too many" defined as more than zero) ...

Third, there's way too many underage chicas out there. I'm not even talking about girls turning 18 that weekend, I mean chicas who are clearly in their early teens. They need to be home, not on at the base of the stairs leading to Classico.

As far as Haitians are concerned most of them don't have homes. Their physical homes have been destroyed in the earthquke and any survivors in their families scattered or living in refugee camps.

It is no coincidence that the surge in children and under-age haitianas has occurred since the earthquake.

I have visited one orphanage in Haïti housing such children but they need fifty times as many orphanages to make any real difference.

Of course being on the streets of Sosua isn't the answer. but who is providing a better solution? No-one, as yet.



Fifth, Haitianas have largely taken over the scene from the Dominicanas. I think many Haitian women are beautiful, but if that's what I wanted, I'd visit Port-au-Prince.

To say that they "have taken over from dominicanas" is an exaggeration. There are ample of both nationalities for everyone to be satisfied. If you a complaining about a lack of quality, then there are places you can go if you can afford to pay top dollar.

I gather you are a wealthy man from your frequent hints to that effect. Maybe you could go mongering in Port-au-Prince if you wanted to, but most ISOC members couldn't afford to, or at least, wouldn't find it a cost-effective holiday. Judging from my recent experience in Cap Haitien, an area not even directly affected by the earthquake, I am guessing that any hotel room in Port-au-Prince comparable to (say) New Garden or Terra Linda would cost US$180 to US$220 per night, and getting around safely would also require the use of taxis and maybe "minders" at considerable expense. Food is also much more expensive (when you can get it). Yes the pussy would be cheaper, but getting to it would cost the earth.

At present the haitianas in Sosúa provide a choice for those who prefer them (a minority, but a sizable one, especially among Europeans who don't have the racial baggage that comes with being American) but they also assist those who prefer dominicanas by helping to keep prices sensible.

Why should mongers be denied a choice, just to fulfil some idea of racial segregation that went out with Trujillo and can never be re-instated in the modern world?

You might as well say that those who want Spanish-looking women should go to Spain.



In a way, ISOCers and other like-minded folks are partly to blame. The search for the cheapest smash possible has let to an influx of hyper-desperate chicas (because of a combination of extreme poverty and/or addiction) willing to work for pennies, and those chicas bring a new level of drama with them.
I totally agree that ISOC and other whoreboards have helped to create a low-cost sex industry in Sosúa. But if that didn't exist most of your readers here wouldn't be there in the first place. Some clean-up is long overdue, but don't throw the baby out with the bath-water.

There are a few ISOC members who seek the "cheapest smash possible" and even some who brag about tricking the chicas into giving them free sex, but the overwhelming majority are more than willing to pay a fair price. I sometimes make up the amount to a fair price after satisfactory service even when the chica would have taken less, and I am sure there are hundreds here like me.

[mikelodge]

I like the beach in Sosua, a lot. I would also like the beach in Boca Chica and next door in Andres except for the God awful port or whatever destroying the view!

I've developed my own personal strategy and method to deal with touts, beggers and others after my money. They do not affect my life at all.

If the beggars aren't after you perhaps it is your cologne :rofl: or maybe not. :D:wink: Your strategy would be most interesting I think.

Now back to Cleaning up the filthy streets and don't get me started on the bathrooms in many places :eek:

[Apos]

And I've been told (source: Herman, Siempre Sol) that a recent (1 or 2 yrs ago) survey showed that 80% of first-time visitors to the North Coast do not intend to return.
I take things like this "with a grain of salt"...or a pound depending on the source...;):wink:

It's not like he's likely to send you the link to an applicable survey. :rolleyes:

I find this especially strange coming fro him, one of the few establishments on the beach with an almost large enough return/repeat tourist clientèle to survive.

[mikelodge]

I like the beach in Sosua, a lot. I would also like the beach in Boca Chica and next door in Andres except for the God awful port or whatever destroying the view!

Click to see pic (http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/5b/85/93/port-of-boca-chica.jpg)

(look in the distance)

I've developed my own personal strategy and method to deal with touts, beggers and others after my money. They do not affect my life at all.

Not to shabby of a beach in BC

http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/imagehosting/160414ba00a366bd36.jpg




http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/imagehosting/160414ba00a37e563a.jpg

http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/imagehosting/160414ba00a3967650.jpg

Not to mention Hooters in SD at the Grand Opening with the International Training Team.

http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/imagehosting/160414b9a627c9182b.jpg

[Apos]

If the beggars aren't after you perhaps it is your cologne :rofl: or maybe not. :D:wink: Your strategy would be most interesting I think.

Now back to Cleaning up the filthy streets and don't get me started on the bathrooms in many places :eek:
I've explained the "good cop" portion of my strategy on here at least once before. It works best when you have time. For the rest they get ignored or evaded...45 degrees and let them fall down on their own! :rolleyes:

[Apos]

I really like Playa Boca Chica BUT the water quality is questionable at best and off to the west is that eye sore! Most of it is beautiful though and loaded with chicas. All things considered I could manage, jejeje.

There are many, many other beaches that are way more scenic, quiet, etc...but I want atmosphere, character and ACTION!



That leaves 2 choices IMO with perhaps Punta Cana as an alternative option with a HUGE downside.

[mikelodge]

As far as Haitians are concerned most of them don't have homes. Their physical homes have been destroyed in the earthquke and any survivors in their families scattered or living in refugee camps.

It is no coincidence that the surge in children and under-age haitianas has occurred since the earthquake.

I have visited one orphanage in Haïti housing such children but they need fifty times as many orphanages to make any real difference.

Of course being on the streets of Sosua isn't the answer. but who is providing a better solution? No-one, as yet.


To say that they "have taken over from dominicanas" is an exaggeration. There are ample of both nationalities for everyone to be satisfied. If you a complaining about a lack of quality, then there are places you can go if you can afford to pay top dollar.

I gather you are a wealthy man from your frequent hints to that effect. Maybe you could go mongering in Port-au-Prince if you wanted to, but most ISOC members couldn't afford to, or at least, wouldn't find it a cost-effective holiday. Judging from my recent experience in Cap Haitien, an area not even directly affected by the earthquake, I am guessing that any hotel room in Port-au-Prince comparable to (say) New Garden or Terra Linda would cost US$180 to US$220 per night, and getting around safely would also require the use of taxis and maybe "minders" at considerable expense. Food is also much more expensive (when you can get it). Yes the pussy would be cheaper, but getting to it would cost the earth.

At present the haitianas in Sosúa provide a choice for those who prefer them (a minority, but a sizable one, especially among Europeans who don't have the racial baggage that comes with being American) but they also assist those who prefer dominicanas by helping to keep prices sensible.

Why should mongers be denied a choice, just to fulfil some idea of racial segregation that went out with Trujillo and can never be re-instated in the modern world?

You might as well say that those who want Spanish-looking women should go to Spain.


I totally agree that ISOC and other whoreboards have helped to create a low-cost sex industry in Sosúa. But if that didn't exist most of your readers here wouldn't be there in the first place. Some clean-up is long overdue, but don't throw the baby out with the bath-water.

There are a few ISOC members who seek the "cheapest smash possible" and even some who brag about tricking the chicas into giving them free sex, but the overwhelming majority are more than willing to pay a fair price. I sometimes make up the amount to a fair price after satisfactory service even when the chica would have taken less, and I am sure there are hundreds here like me.

Well put, you know that some of us Americans do like variety too and the only color we see is Pink. It's all good or at least it can be. :biggrin:

[lobonegro]

There is a HUGE market for it.. It's where Dominican families go for vacation. I know lots of girl friends that go to the AIs in Punta Cana. When the economy is bad, people want to get away... but to cheaper destinations.. What is cheaper than AIs in DR? ~$100-$200 per person per day! If Sosua was a cleaned up, it could be a family destination. Did you see what Giulani did to NYC in the 90s? He drove all the smut from the city and it's like Disney now! :( It's not beyond the realm of possibility.

What part of NYC is similar to Disney?!?! :confused:

[JuanElGriego]

sosua is already dead or dying. Far too many people go there for the wrong reason. To live like puffy for a few days,

Puff's all about having a good time.

Nothing wrong with living like Puff for a few days. So dudes wanna walk around all day attached to a bottle of cognac like it's a an i.v. ... they aint bothering anybody.

It's the dudes up in Classico with extra tight t-shirts, flexing, mean-mugging other dudes when they should be staring at all the hoes ... they're the problem. Go do that shit in a real Dominican club, not a gringo spot like Classico, and then we'll see how big your balls are. :rolleyes:

[JD426]

What part of NYC is similar to Disney?!?! :confused:
Times Square area, I think there are even KIDS theme restaurants there.
It used to be all Peep Shows, Hookers and Sleazy movie theathers where you could literally get a blow job while watching a movie
and you could cruise the streets around Lincoln Tunnel looking for street girl action in your car. Once the Javitz Convention Center was built, the cleanup began...there is pretty much not even a trace of it left.

[snoozer]

I spend at least 3 months every year in Sosua and have done for 6 years now. During that time I have met a number of people staying at Casa Marina and have offered to take them on a tour of the town or down to the beach.

Try walking with tourists with wristbands and white legs, they have to run the gauntlet of the haitian women wanting to braid their hair, pass the asshole touts in front of the stores next to Sea Breeze, fight of the time-share jerks who ride around in the golf cart. This all before you even get to the beach. Then they are physically acosted by every vendor on the beach, who will not take no for an answer. I try to coach these tourists to say " no gracias" and then if that does not work, repeat it with the the finger waggle which Dominicans recognise as an indication you mean business.

It is not the chicas/putas that are the problem for most tourists, it is the rest of the people trying to seperate them from their money. Many have told me they will never return because of this.

I am not sure if the 80% figure is correct but it does not matter if it is 40%, 60% or whatever the number is still too high.

[Ram]

So....it sounds to me that Sosua is soon to be a ghost town, devoid of women. Only males are allowed into the town at night. I see a gay town popping up....

[husl2001]

As far as Haitians are concerned most of them don't have homes. Their physical homes have been destroyed in the earthquke and any survivors in their families scattered or living in refugee camps.

It is no coincidence that the surge in children and under-age haitianas has occurred since the earthquake.

I have visited one orphanage in Haïti housing such children but they need fifty times as many orphanages to make any real difference.

Of course being on the streets of Sosua isn't the answer. but who is providing a better solution? No-one, as yet.


To say that they "have taken over from dominicanas" is an exaggeration. There are ample of both nationalities for everyone to be satisfied. If you a complaining about a lack of quality, then there are places you can go if you can afford to pay top dollar.

I gather you are a wealthy man from your frequent hints to that effect. Maybe you could go mongering in Port-au-Prince if you wanted to, but most ISOC members couldn't afford to, or at least, wouldn't find it a cost-effective holiday. Judging from my recent experience in Cap Haitien, an area not even directly affected by the earthquake, I am guessing that any hotel room in Port-au-Prince comparable to (say) New Garden or Terra Linda would cost US$180 to US$220 per night, and getting around safely would also require the use of taxis and maybe "minders" at considerable expense. Food is also much more expensive (when you can get it). Yes the pussy would be cheaper, but getting to it would cost the earth.

At present the haitianas in Sosúa provide a choice for those who prefer them (a minority, but a sizable one, especially among Europeans who don't have the racial baggage that comes with being American) but they also assist those who prefer dominicanas by helping to keep prices sensible.

Why should mongers be denied a choice, just to fulfil some idea of racial segregation that went out with Trujillo and can never be re-instated in the modern world?

You might as well say that those who want Spanish-looking women should go to Spain.


I totally agree that ISOC and other whoreboards have helped to create a low-cost sex industry in Sosúa. But if that didn't exist most of your readers here wouldn't be there in the first place. Some clean-up is long overdue, but don't throw the baby out with the bath-water.

There are a few ISOC members who seek the "cheapest smash possible" and even some who brag about tricking the chicas into giving them free sex, but the overwhelming majority are more than willing to pay a fair price. I sometimes make up the amount to a fair price after satisfactory service even when the chica would have taken less, and I am sure there are hundreds here like me.

Good points, but to clarify:

1) My premise is not to brag about personal wealth, but to make the point that if you are going on vacation, then go on vacation. I understand people have different budgets, but some discussions sound like people who go for a gambling weekend in Vegas, and then complain when they realize the 50 bux they budgeted for three days won't go very far.

2) I don't flaunt cash, but at the same time, have no interest living at a standard far below what I experience back at home, and call that vacationing. Listening to guys talk about their experiences with long-worn out putas toting flapjacks and bellies in hotels with water stains, moto sounds blaring 24/7, and beds that are harder than concrete simply doesn't sound like a very good good time.

3) I'm about the last person you know who would discriminate against a black person. My point was that many Dominicans don't much care for Haitians, esp. Haitians who take business/work away from them.

Mi favorita damn near bit my head off when we first met. Not knowing the politics, I asked her, a Mocana, if she was Haitian. After that, I had to wait at least an hour before she let me smash. :rofl:

4) I imagine the Haitian prices are a case of supply and demand, esp. for gouging relief agencies who aren't trying to have their people sleep in tents, but yes, the pricing over there is reportedly ridiculous. But who in their right mind would monger over there now? Who the hell would have repeatedly gone before the earthquake?

5) I respectfully disagree with your assertion that the Haitian/Dominican mix is immaterial. There's a difference between a chica down from the city for some quick cash, and a Haitiana who's convinced, rightly or otherwise, her entire families' survival depends on her making money right now.

[JuanElGriego]

At present the haitianas in Sosúa provide a choice for those who prefer them (a minority, but a sizable one)

I set up a poll to see just how many guys on here prefer haitianas.

Curious to see the results.

[lobonegro]

Puff's all about having a good time.

Nothing wrong with living like Puff for a few days. So dudes wanna walk around all day attached to a bottle of cognac like it's a an i.v. ... they aint bothering anybody.

It's the dudes up in Classico with extra tight t-shirts, flexing, mean-mugging other dudes when they should be staring at all the hoes ... they're the problem. Go do that shit in a real Dominican club, not a gringo spot like Classico, and then we'll see how big your balls are. :rolleyes:

I feel you 100% on that...I'm tired of seeing mofo's Northerners coming to Classicos and want to face fight, that I don't understand...we're all there for a common objective...and they're in there scaring the pros away....Dudes walkin around with a bottle of Yak...lol I'm guilty of doing that, shit I'm here to have a good time and be sociable...no need to cause a stir...
I'm also guilty of wearin tight shirts and flexin...I'm 6'2 250...and not fat...jealous??? :wink:

[lobonegro]

Times Square area, I think there are even KIDS theme restaurants there.
It used to be all Peep Shows, Hookers and Sleazy movie theathers where you could literally get a blow job while watching a movie
and you could cruise the streets around Lincoln Tunnel looking for street girl action in your car. Once the Javitz Convention Center was built, the cleanup began...there is pretty much not even a trace of it left.

Yea the older guys on my job...50 y.o's always tell me how 42nd Street was the RED LIGHT DISTRICT at one point you can find whatever you looking for over there...Point Taken!

[papi_sosua]

There is no way that you are lookin' tight at 6'2, 250.
Don't deceive yourself!!

Unless you claim to be Schwarzenegger himself: he was 6"2, 240 in his prime. So are you or are you not???


[...]
I'm also guilty of wearin tight shirts and flexin...I'm 6'2 250...and not fat...jealous??? :wink:

[Apos]

jejejeje, too true :D
Puff's all about having a good time.

Nothing wrong with living like Puff for a few days. So dudes wanna walk around all day attached to a bottle of cognac like it's a an i.v. ... they aint bothering anybody.

It's the dudes up in Classico with extra tight t-shirts, flexing, mean-mugging other dudes when they should be staring at all the hoes ... they're the problem. Go do that shit in a real Dominican club, not a gringo spot like Classico, and then we'll see how big your balls are. :rolleyes:
Most guys, tourist and monger never leave central Sosua on their own. Perhaps on a guided safari tour or something but that's hardly going to expose them to Dominican reality. They have no clue and seem to like it that way. :confused:

One of the reasons I rarely go into Clasico is all the phony wannabe's pretending to act tough. I seriously doubt that most guys feel physically threatened in my presence yet I still get stared down....right up till I burst out laughing. Thankfully I still have not had anyone try and rip my head off...but perhaps eventually :rolleyes:

[mikelodge]

There is no way that you are lookin' tight at 6'2, 250.
Don't deceive yourself!!

Unless you claim to be Schwarzenegger himself: he was 6"2, 240 in his prime. So are you or are you not???

I am 6'2 240 but Arnold still looks better now at his age now than I do. :lol: And he has more money which really is more important than looks with the ladies.

[psriches]

At present the haitianas in Sosúa provide a choice for those who prefer them (a minority, but a sizable one, especially among Europeans who don't have the racial baggage that comes with being American) but they also assist those who prefer dominicanas by helping to keep prices sensible.

Why should mongers be denied a choice, just to fulfil some idea of racial segregation that went out with Trujillo and can never be re-instated in the modern world?There's just as much "racial baggage" with Europeans as there is with Americans. Big difference between fucking a negro chic in Sosua than having her over to dinner back home with your family. Give me a break!!

[lobonegro]

There is no way that you are lookin' tight at 6'2, 250.
Don't deceive yourself!!

Unless you claim to be Schwarzenegger himself: he was 6"2, 240 in his prime. So are you or are you not???

I'll post a picture...I have no problem showing and proving...im 26, it may not be possible for most of the posters...im in the gym 4 times a week...a few of the guys on here seen me on the strip...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/purplecitybyrdg/Unnamed.jpg

I'm quite sure Arnold looks better than I too....but I'm on no HGH, Steroids...and have no personal trainer...its a hobby not a lifestyle...and I'm quite sure he has hell of a lot more money than the majority....

anything other than this pic would be gay...bac to the topic

[officemgr]

i have seen guys on the beach with pimp hats and canes. that's not living like puffy, that's just STUPID. then cats complain about paying 150 pesos to get into classicos and act like they are in a music video when they get there or they don't bother to learn the chica price structure so they end up overpaying or mad because they are not getting chicks for $15.
but the BIG problem is the getting drunk/high and acting like tough guys.




Puff's all about having a good time.

Nothing wrong with living like Puff for a few days. So dudes wanna walk around all day attached to a bottle of cognac like it's a an i.v. ... they aint bothering anybody.

It's the dudes up in Classico with extra tight t-shirts, flexing, mean-mugging other dudes when they should be staring at all the hoes ... they're the problem. Go do that shit in a real Dominican club, not a gringo spot like Classico, and then we'll see how big your balls are. :rolleyes:

[lobonegro]

i have seen guys on the beach with pimp hats and canes. that's not living like puffy, that's just STUPID. then cats complain about paying 150 pesos to get into classicos and act like they are in a music video when they get there or they don't bother to learn the chica price structure so they end up overpaying or mad because they are not getting chicks for $15.
but the BIG problem is the getting drunk/high and acting like tough guys.


totally agree...pimp hats and canes on da beach...dat shit is plain ol ignant...the fuckery that comes down there sometimes makes me hang my head...

[DRCowboy]

There are so many other NICER beaches than Sosua.
My amiga from Santiago just told me about 2 of them I never even heard of. I literally had trouble finding them on GOOGLE .
Spectatucal beaches, one with supposedly the CHEAPEST and best SEAFOOD around. And They dont GOUGE the Gringos, go figure !??
Absolutely spectacular crystal clear Water .
Im betting there are hundreds of spots just like it.
Who the fuck needs Sosua for the beach & vendors?? Without the Putas, they can keep it. They want to push mongers out, no problem. Its a big island, and the chicas grow like wildflowers .

Where are these beaches? I might stop on a future trip.

[Mr Hillbilly]

WickedWillee you got any more info?

You broke the story we need to know how the puta meeting went and who got locked up saturday night.

[MrHappy]

I'll post a picture...I have no problem showing and proving...im 26, it may not be possible for most of the posters...im in the gym 4 times a week...a few of the guys on here seen me on the strip...

Click to see pic (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/purplecitybyrdg/Unnamed.jpg)

I'm quite sure Arnold looks better than I too....but I'm on no HGH, Steroids...and have no personal trainer...its a hobby not a lifestyle...and I'm quite sure he has hell of a lot more money than the majority....

anything other than this pic would be gay...bac to the topic

Well........

I'm 6'4", 245...... but I don't look like that. But I did when I was 25.(except the tats)

Does that count?

[WickedWillie]

WickedWillee you got any more info?

You broke the story we need to know how the puta meeting went and who got locked up saturday night.


Apparently it was only Haitianas locked up on Sat night. 45 of them. That in itself is not that unusual.

Haven't heard any exact details from the meeting but apparently the chicas have been told that if they hold a huelga, then the authorities will call in the TV stations.

You think they are paranoid about photos on the internet???

Just wait until los padres watch Noticiassin at 11 o'clock tonight and see their 'waitress' daughter at a hooker protest!!!!

Plus it's pissing down with rain today. Dominicans don't do shit in the rain.

[JD426]

Where are these beaches? I might stop on a future trip.

Playa Ensenada, and Playa Punta Rusia. Those are just 2 that I must see. There are many more.

[steviewonder]

Where are these beaches? I might stop on a future trip.

A must see one is in Rio San Juan ( Playa Caleton). From Sosua go 1 hr east to RSJ. Travel 1/2 mile past the only traffic light in RSJ and you will see a Brugal sign on the right. Turn left across from that sign. The road that leads to the beach is not the best , but the beach cove, swimming, and the food stalls there are outstanding.:) Also past Playa Grande G.C., 15 minutes past RSJ is pretty awesome. If you like searching for secluded beaches, PG area has them for you on north coast.

[sosuaman]

Based on al I have read - it looks like things will change a bit or are now changing. I will be in the Sosua area for a month coming up - I guess time will tell and I will report any changes I see..

I am more concerned about the crime and the desperation for money that currently exists. I have friends that live there that have had break ins to their condo - third floor condo - the frequency that this is occurring appears to be a new thing in the area - as we hear mora and more similar stories.

There is no money down there except from the tourists - it is very slow and the Dominicans are now watching for new gringos/tourists to come into town - they see where they are staying - especially if it is off the beaten track - and they are targeted.

This trip (my 30th) will be a little tighter - a little more wary of what is happening around me and where I am staying. Other trips it was a bit more relaxing - the guard down a bit because of my familiarity of the people and the area.

This trip - the guard is up - and my eyes will be wide open for the changes that may be occurring. However, I do not see a problem as these type of "changes" tend to not last -

I love Sosua, I love the Dominican and its people - I love the land, the beaches and the culture.

Safety to all in their travels - where ever they may take you...

[husl2001]

Based on al I have read - it looks like things will change a bit or are now changing. I will be in the Sosua area for a month coming up - I guess time will tell and I will report any changes I see..

I am more concerned about the crime and the desperation for money that currently exists. I have friends that live there that have had break ins to their condo - third floor condo - the frequency that this is occurring appears to be a new thing in the area - as we hear mora and more similar stories.

There is no money down there except from the tourists - it is very slow and the Dominicans are now watching for new gringos/tourists to come into town - they see where they are staying - especially if it is off the beaten track - and they are targeted.

This trip (my 30th) will be a little tighter - a little more wary of what is happening around me and where I am staying. Other trips it was a bit more relaxing - the guard down a bit because of my familiarity of the people and the area.

This trip - the guard is up - and my eyes will be wide open for the changes that may be occurring. However, I do not see a problem as these type of "changes" tend to not last -

I love Sosua, I love the Dominican and its people - I love the land, the beaches and the culture.

Safety to all in their travels - where ever they may take you...

Easy fix. Don't stay in unguarded, out-of-the-way places. Go with well-established and located hotels and villas. Trust, saving 15 bux a night will not console you if your stuff gets stolen.

Other than that, just follow the rules:

-No overt showing of cash or jewelry
-Leave your valuables at home
-Lock up whatever you do bring with you
-Take small amounts of cash with you, and use trusted ATMs to replenish funds
-DON'T exchange money with the guys on the corners
-DON'T use the hustlers to hook stuff up for you unless you know them very well (meaning, they came through for others on numerous previous trips)
-Don't bring unnecessary attention to yourself
-Don't engage with a tiguere - totally avoidable
-When possible, hang out with a wingman especially if you're the type who draws attention by drinking too much or "making it rain."
-Don't incentivize a chica to go through your stuff by paying her some ridiculously low amount.
-Security guards know the problem chicas. Watch their body language when you get back to your spot, and TRUST THEM if they say to avoid her.
-Leave the tough guy BS at home. Nobody really gives a damn how you hold down whatever neighborhood you're from. You're in THEIR country, treat them with some respect and 99.9% of the time, it'll be quickly returned.

[Señor Jimmy of Medellin]

You're in THEIR country, treat them with some respect and 99.9% of the time, it'll be quickly returned.

I don't agree. These ex con deportee types think they are so smart, sometimes you need to look them in the eye and tell them to get lost.

[husl2001]

I don't agree. These ex con deportee types think they are so smart, sometimes you need to look them in the eye and tell them to get lost.

Sure, but in over two dozen trips all over the country, I've seldom had a problem with them. A firm "no thanks" works a lot better than "fuck off," especially with types that have a warped sense of what constitutes respect.

[Señor Jimmy of Medellin]

Sure, but in over two dozen trips all over the country, I've seldom had a problem with them. A firm "no thanks" works a lot better than "fuck off," especially with types that have a warped sense of what constitutes respect.

Most get it, but a few never will. I myself never had any problems with them during my 10 years of running amuck.

[vewdew]

In 21 years of travelling all over, only 1 problem in Barcelona Spain.

2 knifes to my ribcage $25.00 lost but I got away, but if I played the hero I would'nt be here typing.

All cause this 2 fuckers seen me goin to the bank, soon I came out they were there to greet me :)

[hughgrection]

Easy fix. Don't stay in unguarded, out-of-the-way places. Go with well-established and located hotels and villas. Trust, saving 15 bux a night will not console you if your stuff gets stolen.

Other than that, just follow the rules:

-No overt showing of cash or jewelry
-Leave your valuables at home
-Lock up whatever you do bring with you
-Take small amounts of cash with you, and use trusted ATMs to replenish funds
-DON'T exchange money with the guys on the corners
-DON'T use the hustlers to hook stuff up for you unless you know them very well (meaning, they came through for others on numerous previous trips)
-Don't bring unnecessary attention to yourself
-Don't engage with a tiguere - totally avoidable
-When possible, hang out with a wingman especially if you're the type who draws attention by drinking too much or "making it rain."
-Don't incentivize a chica to go through your stuff by paying her some ridiculously low amount.
-Security guards know the problem chicas. Watch their body language when you get back to your spot, and TRUST THEM if they say to avoid her.
-Leave the tough guy BS at home. Nobody really gives a damn how you hold down whatever neighborhood you're from. You're in THEIR country, treat them with some respect and 99.9% of the time, it'll be quickly returned.
What is a tiguere?

[steviewonder]

I don't agree. These ex con deportee types think they are so smart, sometimes you need to look them in the eye and tell them to get lost.

Especially when I’ve heard some visitors here ask them, did you learned english in the states? Or why did you return?:rofl:

[JD426]

Sure, but in over two dozen trips all over the country, I've seldom had a problem with them. A firm "no thanks" works a lot better than "fuck off," especially with types that have a warped sense of what constitutes respect.

They dont listen to your Words. They are self trained (from Jail) to watch your body language cues, we covered this like 100x before.
Do the vendors listen to your words, when you tell them "no" ?? and those guys are amateurs next to the deportees.

[vewdew]

What is a tiguere?


Dominican slang for "Sneaky" or "Thug". The way to refer to that guy who knows everything about the streets and life.

[vewdew]

Or someone very successful with women -- and commonly uses women to his advantage.

[steviewonder]

Or someone very successful with women -- and commonly uses women to his advantage.



Is this not the ISOC MISSION STATEMENT?:wink:

[LJDMV]

What is a tiguere?

What's a ridiculous low amount. There are many guys here saying they ar getting ST for 1000 sometimes 500 pesos quite often.

[papi_sosua]

Latest piece of news that I just became aware of is that yesterday night, Bar Central was requiring a valid passport and visa of all Haitianas in order to enter. Supposedly the place was devoid of chicas.

This is becoming worrisome...

[Mr Hillbilly]

What's a ridiculous low amount. There are many guys here saying they ar getting ST for 1000 sometimes 500 pesos quite often.

I know a guy he may be there now. I call him Tennesee. Hillbilly stands out front Bar Central he won't pay over 500 ever he don't give damn how long in between but he ain't paying any more than that!

Granted they are not lookers only qualification for him is big tits.

[JuanElGriego]

totally agree...pimp hats and canes on da beach...dat shit is plain ol ignant...the fuckery that comes down there sometimes makes me hang my head...

Some guys just like to get their flash on, lol.

As long as your cool people, i say rock the hat and cane to death.

Better that than the guys in Classico with shorts and sandals.

I'm much more annoyed by the wannabe thugs than whatever guy wants to get his Jay-Z/UGK in the Big Pimpin' video look on.

Being fly isn't a crime ... ask Kia Shine.

YouTube- kia shine-so krispy

It's the 'yo yo yo, what that n**** right there be lookin' over here for' dudes that fuck the party up, not the pretty boys.

[Mr. Smooth]

After reading this thread, all I can think of right now is will the last monger leaving Sosua please turn off the light! :eek:

[DCIronman]

They dont listen to your Words. They are self trained (from Jail) to watch your body language cues, we covered this like 100x before.
Do the vendors listen to your words, when you tell them "no" ?? and those guys are amateurs next to the deportees.

This may apply to most of us. But they tend to listen to Husl2001 when he says no. Mainly because he's frickin huge! To quote a brit we met in LPs, "E looks like a proppa broosa e does!" LOL!!!

Seriously though, he's huge. Think Karl Malone in his heyday.

[mikelodge]

After reading this thread, all I can think of right now is will the last monger leaving Sosua please turn off the light! :eek:

Airline call centers must be buzzin with people rescheduling trips to other destinations. Flights will fill up to Santo Domingo then POP flight prices will drop when the planes empty out and make a trip to POP and Santiago a bargain perhaps. What a Cycle :lol: You never know what will happen now, passports for Haitians :(

[Roy]

Latest piece of news that I just became aware of is that yesterday night, Bar Central was requiring a valid passport and visa of all Haitianas in order to enter. Supposedly the place was devoid of chicas.

This is becoming worrisome...

Since when did Bar Central and undocumented Hatianas have such an effect on the scene as a whole?

[Roy]

Dominicans don't do shit in the rain.

Yes they do... they fuck

[steviewonder]

Latest piece of news that I just became aware of is that yesterday night, Bar Central was requiring a valid passport and visa of all Haitianas in order to enter. Supposedly the place was devoid of chicas.

This is becoming worrisome...


Your right, for the past week on the streets its tax collection time for those that are illegally here. If they can pay the cops, then they’re back on the streets. If not, they're fucked. I don’t agree while living here, but politically for Ilana/Willie it’s very rewarding for them and their party supporters. Times are tough, and unless the demand equals the supply, then something has to give.:eek:

[WickedWillie]

Yes they do... they fuck

Not outside they don't. They prefer to get their rythym going to match to beat on the zinc roofs, that way the vecinos can't hear them.

[Apos]

Not outside they don't. They prefer to get their rythym going to match to beat on the zinc roofs, that way the vecinos can't hear them.
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

...been there, done that, jejeje

(and some of the most fun AND best sex EVER! :D)

[WickedWillie]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

...been there, done that, jejeje

Lo tambien!!!!!!!!!

[trini44]

damn!!! i just booked for mid Oct and now i read this. Well this is trip numba five this year so a least i got mine in already......the chicas will just go back to Boca Chica since the heat is off there....we just gotta travel a little further south

[jacknback]

Some guys just like to get their flash on, lol.

As long as your cool people, i say rock the hat and cane to death.

Better that than the guys in Classico with shorts and sandals.

I'm much more annoyed by the wannabe thugs than whatever guy wants to get his Jay-Z/UGK in the Big Pimpin' video look on.

Being fly isn't a crime ... ask Kia Shine.

YouTube- kia shine-so krispy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKlF0QRn8aw&feature=related)

It's the 'yo yo yo, what that n**** right there be lookin' over here for' dudes that fuck the party up, not the pretty boys.What's wrong with shorts and sandals?Ater all we are in a BEACH town on vacation.I'll be there tomorrow,just look for the guy in the shorts and sandals!!!

[LJDMV]

damn!!! i just booked for mid Oct and now i read this. Well this is trip numba five this year so a least i got mine in already......the chicas will just go back to Boca Chica since the heat is off there....we just gotta travel a little further south

I am also going in October. I am sure there will still be a good selection of chicas there for us. Dont worry too much now. i plan to do it big this trip. The Dominican females will be there for me.

[mikelodge]

What's wrong with shorts and sandals?Ater all we are in a BEACH town on vacation.I'll be there tomorrow,just look for the guy in the shorts and sandals!!!

Plenty of that in Sosua which is great but I wouldn't fly in clubs in a real city here or there. I don't wear sandals but shorts on vacation hell ya. But the boots are polished for when the need arises :lol:

[trini44]

Coincidently i was there Aug 16 when they had a HUGE rally/victory party for the new Mayor of Sosua.......a lot of the chicas were there giving support for her it seemed to me!....now to stab your followers in the back like that..WOW

[Jimmydr]

Coincidently i was there Aug 16 when they had a HUGE rally/victory party for the new Mayor of Sosua.......a lot of the chicas were there giving support for her it seemed to me!....now to stab your followers in the back like that..WOW


Well only legals get to vote.:eek:

[GrandePadre]

Ok, so let me get this strait, so far it is the Haitian chicas that are getting picked up correct?

[Jimmydr]

Ok, so let me get this strait, so far it is the Haitian chicas that are getting picked up correct?


I think its the illegal ones getting picked up.

[Apos]

There's nothing wrong with shorts and sandals...
What's wrong with shorts and sandals?Ater all we are in a BEACH town on vacation.I'll be there tomorrow,just look for the guy in the shorts and sandals!!!
...in context.

To any decent person in the DR, be they rich or poor, shorts and for the most part sandals on a man are only for:

1. around the house...but not with company
2. going directly to, or at, the beach
3. the gym shower...add athletic shoes for in the gym proper :D
4. pendejo tourists that don't know any better, sad as that may be :rolleyes:

It's really that simple.

While most of us will never blend in completely or be mistaken for a local but you can be more accepted by doing what the locals do. They respect that.

Why, you ask, should we want to be respected by the locals?:

1. You are a lot less likely to be bothered by beggars and street people. Look respectable=getting treated with respect.

2. You'll blend in better and make yourself less of a target. If you have shorts and sandals on after dark, for example, you stand out as a putz that deserves to get robbed...in the eyes of the hardcore and the tigres.

3. If you dress "correctly" you never have to worry about being dressed improperly :) You can go anywhere you want; Gov't offices, good clubs and restaurants, where ever.

But won't I be uncomfortable in the heat in long pants? in a word, no.
Not most of us anyway.

What do desert dwellers wear?

What do they do in the heat of the day?

What do tourists do? :corky:

By all means "it is your vacation" so wear shorts and sandals all the time if you want. Just understand the implications and the possible results and have a great time.

[whynotme]

i never wore shorts until i started travelling in 2005

now when travelling i never pack more than one pair of slacks and most trips they never get used

i even wear shorts to work now!

[steviewonder]

Ok, so let me get this strait, so far it is the Haitian chicas that are getting picked up correct?

And also the Dominican chicas that can not pay off the cops!:mad:

[papi_sosua]

Positive that. My "working" contacts tell me that Haitianas and Dominicanas are being equally targeted. The "get-out-jail" card costs RDP 1,500.

Of course, undocumented Haitianas face double-jeopardy. The chicas are scared!!!


And also the Dominican chicas that will not pay off the cops!:mad:

[Jimmydr]

Positive that. My "working" contacts tell me that Haitianas and Dominicanas are being equally targeted. The "get-out-jail" card costs RDP 1,500.

Of course, undocumented Haitianas face double-jeopardy. The chicas are scared!!!


I think they should pay 2,500 - 5,000 to get out of jail.

[papi_sosua]

Why would you say that? Please explain yourself.


I think they should pay 2,500 - 5,000 to get out of jail.

[Jimmydr]

Why would you say that? Please explain yourself.


Well if they have the balls to ask for 4,000 or 5,000 per night, then they should be able to pay such a fine. Cops make only about $200 a month while these chicas make $4000 - $5,000 a month.

[eastcoastallstar]

Why would you say that? Please explain yourself.


Explain Yourself Jimmy !!!!:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Apos]

Are you talking the same currency for both pay cheques?
Well if they have the balls to ask for 4,000 or 5,000 per night, then they should be able to pay such a fine. Cops make only about $200 a month while these chicas make $4000 - $5,000 a month.

[JD426]

I think they should pay 2,500 - 5,000 to get out of jail.

Where does the money go ? is it paying off and of those huge outstanding Utility bills ??
http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/showthread.php?t=299215&highlight=sosua+bills

Im guessing this is a way for the new Mayor to get the cops on her side. Its BONUS TIME. The cops get to shake down the Chicas, and keep/split the money ?
Govt, Dominican style.. at its finest.

[Jimmydr]

Are you talking the same currency for both pay cheques?


Cops make $200 a month, some hookers make $4,000 or $5,000 a month. Cops have families to feed as well.

[Jimmydr]

Where does the money go ? is it paying off those huge outstanding Utility bills ??
http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/showthread.php?t=299215&highlight=sosua+bills

Im guessing this is a way for the new Mayor to get the cops on her side. Its BONUS TIME. The cops get to shake down the Chicas, and keep/split the money ?
Govt, Dominican style.. at its finest.


So a cop with 3 kids can live on $200 a month but a hooker taking in $2,000 is barely scrapping by?:eek:

[JD426]

oh I am not taking any sides, and i am the first to say the cops are way underpaid. But encouraging them to shakedown the girls is hardly the way law enforcement is set up to work. But I guess she cant give them a RAISE by legit channels so its the next best thing.
Just an observation is all.

[papi_sosua]

Jimmy, Dude!!!

I truly respect you! But you need to lay low on the booze (or whatever your fav mind-altering drug is!). A chica making USD $4-5k a month in Sosua?????
You must be joking, right? Please confirm.

P.S.: I presume your later quotes are in USD, as a Politur cop makes more than RDP 200/ mo., but effectively around USD 200/mo.


Well if they have the balls to ask for 4,000 or 5,000 per night, then they should be able to pay such a fine. Cops make only about $200 a month while these chicas make $4000 - $5,000 a month.

[Jimmydr]

Jimmy, Dude!!!

I truly respect you! But you need to lay low on the booze (or whatever your fav mind-altering drug is!). A chica making USD $4-5k a month in Sosua?????
You must be joking, right? Please confirm.

P.S.: I presume your later quotes are in USD, as a Politur cop makes more than RDP 200/ mo., but effectively around USD 200/mo.


Well if they get 5,000 a nigh, that would be $150, correct? If they have one WU guy sending them a $1,000 a month and do 20TLNs, that would be $4,000.

If they do a ST daily for 1,500 and a TLN for 2,500 that would be $120 a day?

[Jimmydr]

oh I am not taking any sides, and i am the first to say the cops are way underpaid. But encouraging them to shakedown the girls is hardly the way law enforcement is set up to work. But I guess she cant give them a RAISE by legit channels so its the next best thing.
Just an observation is all.


But that is how it works, shakedowns and bribes. That is how it was in the US for the first 150 years as well. It might be an unwritten rule.

[Apos]

A normal street cop gets paid about 7500 pesos a month and has costs associated with the job.

That's why it's normal, just as an example, to have to pay for gas if you want the cops to come to you or go somewhere to investigate. It's assumed/expected that cops will shakedown chicas and illegals as well as silly/stupid tourists and vulnerable expats. That's the bulk of there renumeration.

I personally paid a local cop enough that he could stock a finca with livestock, for doing a considerable amount of dangerous investigating mind you, and bought another a cell phone just for going with me to "run an errand". NOTHING involving law enforcement gets accomplished without a propina or payment of some kind.

[DCIronman]

Well if they get 5,000 a nigh, that would be $150, correct? If they have one WU guy sending them a $1,000 a month and do 20TLNs, that would be $4,000.

If they do a ST daily for 1,500 and a TLN for 2,500 that would be $120 a day?

Hmm. It's a rare chica that actually does this well just selling toto. Not many have regular customers these days. And a great many go home alone quite a few nights out of the week.

You could probably cut your number in half, and still have more than what the average Sosua chica makes per month.

[Apos]

An average chica is going to go home with nada and perhaps with some expense money spent on any given night. They're not all getting drinks bought for them,not often enough for their purposes anyway. :D

Those that I know generally get less than $1500 pesos on average any given working day. If it's "that time of the month" then nada or if they're luck 500 for a bj...but usually nada.

An above average earner, IMO, would be a chica that could average $1500 pesos a day, 25 days a month. That = $37,500 pesos or $1027 USD. Most chicas do no maintain this...it's much lower than you think!

A superior earner would earn about 2000 pesos a day, 25 days a week = 50,000 pesos a month or $ 1369 USD monthly. The vast majority fall well under this.

An exceptional earner would average more than 2500 a day for 25 days a month = 62, 500 pesos or $1712 UD mensual. Almost no Sosua puta hits this on the regular.

In my admittedly limited experience and circle of "chica" amigas many exist on 500 pesos a day most days, a few aim for and get upwards to 1000. I know no one, puta that is, making more than this consistently. Heard of some but IMO that's WU donations...which count but most chicas don't get any WU.

I'd suspect, like most things the top 5-20% of the chicas get 80+% of the WU money....what do you guys think?

[Jimmydr]

An average chica is going to go home with nada and perhaps with some expense money spent on any given night. They're not all getting drinks bought for them,not often enough for their purposes anyway. :D

Those that I know generally get less than $1500 pesos on average any given working day. If it's "that time of the month" then nada or if they're luck 500 for a bj...but usually nada.

An above average earner, IMO, would be a chica that could average $1500 pesos a day, 25 days a month. That = $37,500 pesos or $1027 USD. Most chicas do no maintain this...it's much lower than you think!

A superior earner would earn about 2000 pesos a day, 25 days a week = 50,000 pesos a month or $ 1369 USD monthly. The vast majority fall well under this.

An exceptional earner would average more than 2500 a day for 35 days a month = 62, 500 pesos or $1712 UD mensual. Almost no Sosua puta hits this on the regular.

In my admittedly limited experience and circle of chica amigas many exist on 500 pesos a day most days, a few aim for and get upwards to 1000. I know no one, puta that is, making more than this consistently. Heard of some but IMO that's WU donations...which count but most chicas don't get any WU.

I'd suspect, like most things the top 5-20% of the chicas get 80+% of the WU money....what do you guys think?


Can we get a chart, with colors?:surprised:

[hugrad95a]

This should tell you how ass backwards some politicians are.

http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php

The lovers of free singing can now start training their vocal chords with all of their hearts: the famous karaoke nights every Friday evening at restaurant Don Andres have returned. For unknown reasons, the City Council of the beach resort prohibited the karaoke nights a few months ago.

[Apos]

I'll get right on that...
Can we get a chart, with colors?:surprised:..http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/imagehosting/33364c3a169fa8c41.jpg (http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=82302) :rofl:

[Jimmydr]

I'll get right on that.....[/URL][URL="http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/imagehosting/33364c3a169fa8c41.jpg"]Click to see pic (http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=82302) :rofl:


Assign it to that chart maker, what ever his name is. I would like to look it over in the morning with my bagel.:cheesygrin:

[Apos]

There is actually a permit that you need to buy in order to have Karaoke and other assorted functions at your establishment.

The strange part is that a by-law on the books is actually being enforced. Not necessarily uniformly though...

I was with Mikelodge, I think, at Simply Red discussing this with the owner at one point. He has a great space there and in the past it was a dance hall, there were concerts and big name special guest DJ's but now you have to apply separately for each event. Fucking ridiculous IMO.
This should tell you how ass backwards some politicians are.

http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php

The lovers of free singing can now start training their vocal chords with all of their hearts: the famous karaoke nights every Friday evening at restaurant Don Andres have returned. For unknown reasons, the City Council of the beach resort prohibited the karaoke nights a few months ago.

[Jimmydr]

Yada, yada, yada...

I was with Mikelodge, Yada, yada, yada


You were with him? Really? :eek::eek:

[The Sage]

After my recent visit I have to agree with the mayor. The town needs to be cleaned up. Too many workers, working all hours of the day. There was a time when day light action was limited to the beach, small bars and the particular hotel you where staying in. For the most part it was not in your face obvious to the Sosua locals 24/7. Believe it or not normal people with families do live in Sosua. Right now there are way to many unattractive out-of-town hoes squatting in town for extended periods of time trying to drum up business. It's gotten to the point where the only people in the clubs at night are johns and hoes. I know a lot of you think this is ideal, but there was a time when the discos served as the venue for local girls to meet foreign men and make a little money when they needed it. Back then you saw less than 10% of the girls in the disco night after night. Every night of a vacation held a potential pleasant surprise. Now you are almost guaranteed to see 70% of the worn out hoes you saw the last time you were there 3 months ago. To me that shit is extremely boring.

[papi_sosua]

NO, but we can put you to rest for the night.
I hear that early-onset Alzheimers need much sleep.

P.S.: While Apo is much closer to the pulse of the street, it ain't close enough.


Can we get a chart, with colors?:surprised:

[The Sage]

I think Apos is just about right there with his earning estimates though I doubt if many girls at the top end are working 25 days a month. Probably more like 12-15 times averaging 3,000 to 4,000 pesos a day or anywhere between 40k to 60K pesos a month. They supplement this with WU. At most they're clearing 80k a month before expenses. Not enough to live the high life, but substantially more than a uneducated unconnected dominicana can earn working a normal type job.

[papi_sosua]

80k a month???
You are dreaming and forecasting out of your dick!

THe Haitianas come here because as illegals, no less, they possibly can make RDP 20k/mo. I am deeply disturbed about the very recent developments: friend of mine (resident) was able to hook a Haitiana from Montellano for TLN RDP 300 PLUS clean the apartm. in the morning!!!!

That ain't right. He also refused!





I think Apos is just about right there with his earning estimates though I doubt if many girls at the top end are working 25 days a month. Probably more like 12-15 times averaging 3,000 to 4,000 pesos a day or anywhere between 40k to 60K pesos a month. They supplement this with WU. At most they're clearing 80k a month before expenses. Not enough to live the high life, but substantially more than a uneducated unconnected dominicana can earn working a normal type job.

[The Sage]

Not dreaming simply making an estimate based on my experience. Please note I said top earners. Understand there are very few of these girls. The girls in this category often can pull 7,000 pesos on a Saturday. That's a villa run during the day and a TLN later on. These chicks also get large propinas from touristos who know no better. Yes believe it or not they can and do make this kind of money. I know one now who is getting 15K a week WU and turning the occasional 4K trick once or twice a week. Once again there aren't many of them. These chicks know what they got and do the best they can with it.

[FritoBandito]

Playa Ensenada, and Playa Punta Rusia. Those are just 2 that I must see. There are many more.


Best beaches in the DR are in Samana...Playa Rincon, especially.....

[FritoBandito]

What's wrong with shorts and sandals?Ater all we are in a BEACH town on vacation.I'll be there tomorrow,just look for the guy in the shorts and sandals!!!


That's ALL I wear in the Dominican, to effen hot to wear anything else!!!

And you don't want to be in the same room if I take my sneakers off after I wore them all day in 90+ heat......phew:eek:.......sandals are the answer, amigo

[vewdew]

Just a quick note on "Shorts and sandals"
Not everyone is ashamed of showing theyr legs, not everyone can wear slacks on summer months, and fuck all of you fashion police that think shorts are for fags and tourists only.
thank you and have a nice fuckin day.

[Apos]

Assign it to that chart maker, what ever his name is. I would like to look it over in the morning with my bagel.:cheesygrin:
Where IS Beads when you need him? :D

[Apos]

NO, but we can put you to rest for the night.
I hear that early-onset Alzheimers need much sleep.

P.S.: While Apo is much closer to the pulse of the street, it ain't close enough.
So where am I off? :confused:

[Apos]

It's not what "the fashion police" might think but what decent Dominicans do in fact think that's the key...If you find jeans or Khakis too hot try white or tan linen or light cotton pants...or whatever, improvise, it's your life. Not sure where being ashamed got involved...I look GREAT in shorts! :rolleyes:

FYI in Santiago, for example, they would figure you were gay, and advertising it, if you were always wandering around in shorts.
It's their island and their standards...when in Rome and all.
Just a quick note on "Shorts and sandals"
Not everyone is ashamed of showing theyr legs, not everyone can wear slacks on summer months, and fuck all of you fashion police that think shorts are for fags and tourists only.
thank you and have a nice fuckin day.
In Sosua most of the locals know you are a tourist and could give a flying fuck what you wear, as long as you are paying enough. Dare to go outside of Sosua or other tourist areas and all that changes. It makes a difference and normal people notice, feel it and change...or return to Sosua.

In Sosua I've spent plenty of time in shorts. Before dusk and the mosquitoes I'm into long pants and socks though...for my own good. :D

[Bhutto,BhuttoGolly]

I think Apos is just about right there with his earning estimates though I doubt if many girls at the top end are working 25 days a month. Probably more like 12-15 times averaging 3,000 to 4,000 pesos a day or anywhere between 40k to 60K pesos a month. They supplement this with WU. At most they're clearing 80k a month before expenses. Not enough to live the high life, but substantially more than a uneducated unconnected dominicana can earn working a normal type job.

No Dominican works 25 days a month! LOL

[vewdew]

No its was just the remarks about shorts that made me write that, and i dont get mad.

[vewdew]

I wear pants year round, but when I am off work I wear my shorts and on vacation I also wear a Combo of shorts and slacks depending on the situation.

[Seville]

National Police out in force tonight on Pedro but not really bothering anyone. Heard they were rounding up Haitian chicas last nite.

[Apos]

I know chicas that work pretty much EVERY day. Times are tough! :eek:

No Dominican works 25 days a month! LOLYou're hanging out with the wrong class of people :rolleyes::lol:

People in "normal" jobs work 5.5 days a week or 23-24 days a month but for a puta there are only 3-6 days where it is awkward for her to service clients...Even if they're "on the rag" they're hustling...got mouths to feed and bills to pay!

[vewdew]

Now resuming and staying on topic all I have been reading online about Sosua clean up, only refers to Beggars and garbage cleaning also some new construction of a park and a few buildings that the new Mayor wants.

Now they might be cleaning up all the illegals, it looks that way, nothing implies to removing all the hookers, so if you have your reservation keep it and enjoy your time there.

[steviewonder]

No Dominican works 25 days a month! LOL

You’re definitely drinking way too much Brugal when you visit here. Good 4 u! Just one question, how many people do you know back where you live work 25 days a month, and then are lucky enough to get paid for only 4 days worth of time? 95% of them here do in Sosua. The rest of the time they return home to their babies and fuck their amigos for milk money.

[Bhutto,BhuttoGolly]

You’re definitely drinking way too much Brugal when you visit here. Good 4 u!Just one question, how many people do you know back where you live work 25 days a month, and then are lucky enough to get paid for only 4 days worth of time? 95% of them here do in Sosua. The rest of the time they return home to their babies and beg family members for milk money.

Yes- I am grossly underestimating the legendary Caribbean work ethic.
My apologies...

[steviewonder]

After my recent visit I have to agree with the mayor. The town needs to be cleaned up. Too many workers, working all hours of the day. There was a time when day light action was limited to the beach, small bars and the particular hotel you where staying in. For the most part it was not in your face obvious to the Sosua locals 24/7. Believe it or not normal people with families do live in Sosua. Right now there are way to many unattractive out-of-town hoes squatting in town for extended periods of time trying to drum up business. It's gotten to the point where the only people in the clubs at night are johns and hoes. I know a lot of you think this is ideal, but there was a time when the discos served as the venue for local girls to meet foreign men and make a little money when they needed it. Back then you saw less than 10% of the girls in the disco night after night. Every night of a vacation held a potential pleasant surprise. Now you are almost guaranteed to see 70% of the worn out hoes you saw the last time you were there 3 months ago. To me that shit is extremely boring.

It's 99.9%. Try taking a non pro girl anywhere from the north coast into Classico on a weekend:eek:. That's why dominicans only support Rumba down the street on weekends.

[Apos]

It must be tough being a street chica/puta these days...
http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/showthread.php?t=300273

Not that it was ever "easy" but it seems most of the fun is gone now....I'm just sayin'

Jamaica
Thailand
Philippines
South and Latin America....here I come!

[Bstokley]

It's 99.9%. Try taking a non pro girl anywhere from the north coast into Classico on a weekend:eek:. That's why dominicans only support Rumba down the street on weekends.
iuts not going down, non-pros avoid classicos like the plague

[Bhutto,BhuttoGolly]

iuts not going down, non-pros avoid classicos like the plague

Hey man, you and the boys there now?
Damn, I'm jealous! How's that villa working out?
Peace, BBG

[Bstokley]

Hey man, you and the boys there now?
Damn, I'm jealous! How's that villa working out?
Peace, BBG

We not there just yet, End of the month. going into October.
Probably will celebrate Canada's THANKSGIVING down there with some POON_TANG PIE!.

Not gonna be the same without you brother.....

We're staying in Condo Complex near Casa Cayena
Rollin about 8 Deep...
we got a decent deal at 400 a week for 4 two-bedroom Condos.

[gdogg]

Well if they get 5,000 a nigh, that would be $150, correct? If they have one WU guy sending them a $1,000 a month and do 20TLNs, that would be $4,000.

If they do a ST daily for 1,500 and a TLN for 2,500 that would be $120 a day?

They can ask for 5,000 pesos for a TLN, and may find someone stupid on occasion. But they sure as hell ain't roping in 20 suckers a month!!

[JD426]

National Police out in force tonight on Pedro but not really bothering anyone. Heard they were rounding up Haitian chicas last nite.
Thats the perfect time to grab a Hot Haitiana, maybe one u have sessioned with and make like she is with you , so If she has any brains, she will appreciate it and owe you a freebie.

[Seville]

Thats the perfect time to grab a Hot Haitiana, maybe one u have sessioned with and make like she is with you , so If she has any brains, she will appreciate it and owe you a freebie.

A man that is always thinking:wink:

[lobonegro]

Cops make $200 a month, some hookers make $4,000 or $5,000 a month. Cops have families to feed as well.

Cops better get on the strip and sling some dick to the gringas...shhhiiittttt

[sosuaman]

Concerning how much the chicas make...

They may make the figures being thrown around here - but IN MOST CASES at the end of the month they have ZERO - they spend, spend and spend - plus send some home for thew bambinos, madre y padre...

[Jimmydr]

Concerning how much the chicas make...

They may make the figures being thrown around here - but IN MOST CASES at the end of the month they have ZERO - they spend, spend and spend - plus send some home for thew bambinos, madre y padre...


Doesn't matter what they have at the end of the month. Its not our problem how they spend their money.

[adios]

last nighton pedro clisante was business as usual, just so you know. extremely desperate though, everybody. latino's is dead every night i go by. i've never seen the bartenders so desperate at classicos eg...

[mho]

I have been here for a week and it seems nothing has changed. An abundance of average and sub-par girls that really have no business trying to sell their bodies, sorry but it is the truth. There are a few cute girls and only a handful of really beautiful girls.

As far as a clean-up, There are by far more Politur and Policia Nacional than I have ever seen but I have not seen them rounding-up girls or anything.

p.s. wear shorts and sandals at night if you want because Sosua is a nothing, little beach town loaded with tourists and hookers.

[WSJ3_Sith_Lord]

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[WSJ3_Sith_Lord]

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