It is all Bush's fault !

[Sidney]

Wall Street Plunges on Economic Fears; Dow Sinks More Than 500 Points; S&P, Nasdaq Down 4%; VIX Soars 30% (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Wall-Street-extends-recent-rb-803713724.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=)- Reuters Wall Street plunged on the worst one-day drop since December 2008. Stock investors face a number of worries. Congress and the administration must resume their debates over spending cuts to avoid a possible credit downgrade. Evidence of economic weakness has recently increased, raising fear of a return to a recession. A spreading debt crisis in Europe has also threatened to hit the global economy.... » read more:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Wall-Street-extends-recent-rb-803713724.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=)

[knotty]

Man, you are asking for it with the title of this thread. I can definitely predict this will not turn out well.

[Kevy]

Obama isn't getting all the grey hair for nothing. And really it is the action of both of them and the ones before that led to this.:rolleyes:

[Antonio]

where is Bush these days anyway?

[Antonio]

its not going so good in europe right now eather with the euro...
luckely sweden still have the krone thou.

[jose1234]

The monetary gimmicks by the fed via QE2 was just pushing on a string. The economy need directed jobs programs. Now the European debt and banking crisis is set to break out and there is no more flexibility left to the FED. Europe will have to solve its own problems this time and the are inept idiots. I am looking for riots in the street in Italy over the next two - three months.

Many banks in Europe lost 20% in their stock price recently. World financial institutions are avoiding new debt in Europe...liquidity is drying up and a financial crisis is emerging over the next few days...possibly... We are way way beyond blaming Bush or any one else...

[el toro]

It's a never ending cycle of blame.

Those that don't like Obama will blame Clinton for handing Bush a mess. Those that don't like Bush, blame the first Bush for handing Clinton a mess and so on down the line.

That's as political as I'm going to get on here.

[joeysterr]

its not going so good in europe right now eather with the euro...
luckely sweden still have the krone thou.

And in Switzerland, where I'm from and where I'm at right now, we have the Swiss Francs which has reached a record high over ALL THE OTHER CURRENCIES :iconTU:

[joeysterr]

Man, you are asking for it with the title of this thread. I can definitely predict this will not turn out well.

FOR REAL


http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=22924&d=1312493072

[deep2001]

Yeah, and Switzerland is a socialist country, where people and corporations pay three times the taxes we do to finance programs that benefit their middle and lower class citizens. :rofl:



And in Switzerland, where I'm from and where I'm at right now, we have the Swiss Francs which has reached a record high over ALL THE OTHER CURRENCIES :iconTU:

[Antonio]

Yeah, and Switzerland is a socialist country, where people and corporations pay three times the taxes we do to finance programs that benefit their middle and lower class citizens. :rofl:
???????????

[joeysterr]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: I know I won't even need to reply with what you just said


Yeah, and Switzerland is a socialist country, where people and corporations pay three times the taxes we do to finance programs that benefit their middle and lower class citizens. :rofl:

[deep2001]

Glad you got the joke!




:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: I know I won't even need to reply with what you just said

[deep2001]

Yeah, it's gonna get ugly! It's probably a good idea NOT to mix mongering and politics!




Man, you are asking for it with the title of this thread. I can definitely predict this will not turn out well.

[getrhythm]

It's a never ending cycle of blame.

Those that don't like Obama will blame Clinton for handing Bush a mess. Those that don't like Bush, blame the first Bush for handing Clinton a mess and so on down the line.

Not really.

Clinton left the country in pretty good shape as I recall.

George W. Bush, OTOH, phucked us in the ass. And we'll be digging out of the hole he left us for a long time to come...

[FritoBandito]

I HATED Bush! In my opinion, the worst president ever. Bush and his cronies is one of the main reasons this country is in the shithole it is today. But the beginning of the start of the fall was Ronald "Bonzo" Reagan.......:icontd:.

[SrSuerte]

Shots Fired! Pop! Pop!

[Irie]

Internet service to watch the market. $30

Flat screen to watch it over analyzed. $1095

12 pack when you check your 401. $12.85




Taking economic and political opinions from fellow mongers..............

[eldorob]

First of all, Sidney was being facetious.

Secondly, you guys can repeat the word Bush all you want but unless you look at the real numbers from the last two and a half years you're just kidding yourself. The debt and entitilments that he has pushed thru are staggering.

Businesses are afraid to invest, hire and expand. Taxing people who own private jets is not going to get the economy moving. That's a f'n joke.

"If somebody wants to build a coal-powered plan, then can. It's just that it will bankrupt them" and electricity rates will "necessarily skyrocket"
Barack H. Obama - 2008

We can't drill in Alaska or the Gulf because he's worried about harming precious Mother Earth, but he just loaned 2 billion of our fucking money to a Brasilian company to drill off shore in South America. Oil that we will buy. Please tell me how that makes sense to you.

Billions in stimulis (your tax dollars) to "shovel ready jobs" but when the moneys gone and unemployment hits 9% he jokes & laughs about the lack of "shovel ready jobs"?

Wake the fuck up people.

[SrSuerte]

Return Shots Fired!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLPI_p5RnR0

[deep2001]

Again, don't go mixing mongering and politics.

Can't we just write about fuckin hot chicas and how free we are there with our Euros and Dollars.



First of all, Sidney was being facetious.

Secondly, you guys can repeat the word Bush all you want but unless you look at the real numbers from the last two and a half years you're just kidding yourself. The debt and entitilments that he has pushed thru are staggering.

Businesses are afraid to invest, hire and expand. Taxing people who own private jets is not going to get the economy moving. That's a f'n joke.

"If somebody wants to build a coal-powered plan, then can. It's just that it will bankrupt them" and electricity rates will "necessarily skyrocket"
Barack H. Obama - 2008

We can't drill in Alaska or the Gulf because he's worried about harming precious Mother Earth, but he just loaned 2 billion of our fucking money to a Brasilian company to drill off shore in South America. Oil that we will buy. Please tell me how that makes sense to you.

Billions in stimulis (your tax dollars) to "shovel ready jobs" but when the moneys gone and unemployment hits 9% he jokes & laughs about the lack of "shovel ready jobs"?

Wake the fuck up people.

[TNT72]

I've been thinking about all this for quite a while. I'm new to all this. Even though I'm 39, I kept my head low. Just thinking I was lucky gettin mine.

I grew up in a very small town, living in goverment housing, on foodstamps. Now, if you guys haven't been handed a dose of humility, be from a small town, where everyone knows everyone. Go through the only grocery store on your side of town. With the most popular girl in school behind you and your moms while you are checking out, and mom hand over foodstamps. When you see that girl's opinion of you change in her eyes as you watch, your handed the biggest dose of embarrasment you ever will be.

This will all come together in a few. Just give me a little time.

[Irie]

I've been thinking about all this for quite a while. I'm new to all this. Even though I'm 39, I kept my head low. Just thinking I was lucky gettin mine.

I grew up in a very small town, living in goverment housing, on foodstamps. Now, if you guys haven't been handed a dose of humility, be from a small town, where everyone knows everyone. Go through the only grocery store on your side of town. With the most popular girl in school behind you and your moms while you are checking out, and mom hand over foodstamps. When you see that girl's opinion of you change in her eyes as you watch, your handed the biggest dose of embarrasment you ever will be.

This will all come together in a few. Just give me a little time.

that's all it takes with any issue or problem, everytime.

it's patience that some of us all lack at times and think we are the first one's ever going through the "crisis" of the moment....no matter what it is.

[mikelodge]

Wall Street Plunges on Economic Fears; Dow Sinks More Than 500 Points; S&P, Nasdaq Down 4%; VIX Soars 30% (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Wall-Street-extends-recent-rb-803713724.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=)- Reuters Wall Street plunged on the worst one-day drop since December 2008. Stock investors face a number of worries. Congress and the administration must resume their debates over spending cuts to avoid a possible credit downgrade. Evidence of economic weakness has recently increased, raising fear of a return to a recession. A spreading debt crisis in Europe has also threatened to hit the global economy.... » read more:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Wall-Street-extends-recent-rb-803713724.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=)

OH, I see then it must not be OBAMA man's fault at all for the economy when he allowed his wife to go to the Spanish Riviera with over 40 relatives and friends all on the Tax Payers Dime with Secret Service Protection on a Vacation she never earned herself. Hmmm.

Oh Did we forget those 2 villas in Hawaii for the Entire Family for at least 2 long Vacations that I know about where the Sassa and Mellia got there own private pool again at Tax Payer expense with Secret Service. Yah he is a real jewel and his election posters of his HEAD with the Word CHANGE are sure accurate only it is a change for the worse at least so far. Anybody think this is going away real soon. :rofl:

[TNT72]

I lived with my mom, who worked as a waitress and had no desire to make her life better. But, I was blessed with my dads business mind. Plus, my dad spent time with me. Teaching me how to make money out of nothing.

I doubt there is an illegal activity that between my dad and I, we haven't covered. But, it wasn't to be greedy. There was many months when I had to pay the rent for my mom. Even though dad wasn't there in the house, he taught me to be a man.

Anyway, we were finally legit (kinda). Dad pretty much fucked me, but that's in his nature.


So, I went from a project kid, who had no desire to judge anyone, just make his....to a guy that made it, and now I'm tired of my tax money being pissed away.

I don't think I'm a hypocrite. Because I went from feeding off of society, to helping contribute to society.

[Hoseman]

We are going to have to sit down over a couple of beers one day Trey.

[mikelodge]

I've been thinking about all this for quite a while. I'm new to all this. Even though I'm 39, I kept my head low. Just thinking I was lucky gettin mine.

I grew up in a very small town, living in goverment housing, on foodstamps. Now, if you guys haven't been handed a dose of humility, be from a small town, where everyone knows everyone. Go through the only grocery store on your side of town. With the most popular girl in school behind you and your moms while you are checking out, and mom hand over foodstamps. When you see that girl's opinion of you change in her eyes as you watch, your handed the biggest dose of embarrasment you ever will be.

This will all come together in a few. Just give me a little time.

Well you can't change that and it sure as hell doesn't make you a bad person. Hell life is full of battles except for people either born rich or pussies not willing to take a risk.
I know I had no financial help to go to school and had less than 100k in assets at age 30 raising kids but anyone can do it with hard work.

Sometimes embarrasment builds character when you think about it losers are not embarrassed, they laugh about it. :wink:

[mikelodge]

I lived with my mom, who worked as a waitress and had no desire to make her life better. But, I was blessed with my dads business mind. Plus, my dad spent time with me. Teaching me how to make money out of nothing.

I doubt there is an illegal activity that between my dad and I, we haven't covered. But, it wasn't to be greedy. There was many months when I had to pay the rent for my mom. Even though dad wasn't there in the house, he taught me to be a man.

Anyway, we were finally legit (kinda). Dad pretty much fucked me, but that's in his nature.


So, I went from a project kid, who had no desire to judge anyone, just make his....to a guy that made it, and now I'm tired of my tax money being pissed away.

I don't think I'm a hypocrite. Because I went from feeding off of society, to helping contribute to society.

This really is one of many small versions of the Ameriacan Dream. Cudos to you.
You are not alone

[TNT72]

A lot of people can't understand how I could do some of the things I have done in my life to get ahead. They never seen the look in the "popular girls" eyes, as mom paid with foodstamps.

So anyway, after years of doing the hustle, either this side of legal, or the other, I've grown tired of being legal. I just don't get it guys!!!!!

I was better off, being a straight hustler!

The politicians are the biggest hustlers, thieves, I have ever seen!!! Republican, Democrate, elephant or donkey, it doesn't matter!!!!

They are all getting rich, while they tax our asses!

While my thinking goes along with Republican, they all fuck us.

They are the worst crooks, because they not only control our tax money, they spend it on themselves!

[Hoseman]

A lot of people can't understand how I could do some of the things I have done in my life to get ahead. They never seen the look in the "popular girls" eyes, as mom paid with foodstamps.

So anyway, after years of doing the hustle, either this side of legal, or the other, I've grown tired of being legal. I just don't get it guys!!!!!

I was better off, being a straight hustler!

The politicians are the biggest hustlers, thieves, I have ever seen!!! Republican, Democrate, elephant or donkey, it doesn't matter!!!!

They are all getting rich, while they tax our asses!

While my thinking goes along with Republican, they all fuck us.

They are the worst crooks, because they not only control our tax money, they spend it on themselves!That is the way most of the people think where I come from.

[TNT72]

I'm not saying I don't have a decent life guys. Fuck, my fifth vacation is scheduled for 5 weeks 8 hours from now.

But, I'm getting tired!

You see, the main business that I own, that pays all my bills and vacations, is a Bail Bond business.

I know a lot of you think that is cool. But the truth is, at any given day, I have over a million dollars gambled on defendants, who are running around streets of a lot of city's every day!

My life is not like Dog the Bounty hunter!

And the truth is, as hard as it is to make a legal living.......

the Feds make it so hard, its really not worth it!!!

[TNT72]

I know I kinda hijacked Sydneys thread. Sorry Syd.

But personally, I feel it's time for another Tea Party!

The government is suppose to represent us, not use us!

[Irie]

from a business standpoint, this is what i've learned to be a "gravity" issue. absolutely none of us with all of our venting can do a damn thing about what is happening now or has in the past as a whole....or in our own personal lives. collectively, possibly. we have all had our experiences in life that have made us who we are today. good, bad, or indifferent.

if each of us as individuals are smart enough to learn from all we've lived, we can be good people.....whether we are born with a golden spoon or not. enjoy life as best you can with what you have and enjoy others that are positive and give back to you.

i myself had the experience of no father from a young age on, but me and my mother strived for better. all has turned out pretty damn good and i feel fortunate to do and live my life as it is today.

the issues like gravity......why spend so much time thinking or worrying about them......we can't really affect it as an individual. continue to look within yourself as to what you can do first to make change before venting and doing nothing.

(guess this is my vent for the night :lol:)

[mikelodge]

I know I kinda hijacked Sydneys thread. Sorry Syd.

But personally, I feel it's time for another Tea Party!

The government is suppose to represent us, not use us!

Go Tea Party and make it a big ONE.

[Irie]

I'm not saying I don't have a decent life guys. Fuck, my fifth vacation is scheduled for 5 weeks 8 hours from now.

But, I'm getting tired!

You see, the main business that I own, that pays all my bills and vacations, is a Bail Bond business.

I know a lot of you think that is cool. But the truth is, at any given day, I have over a million dollars gambled on defendants, who are running around streets of a lot of city's every day!

My life is not like Dog the Bounty hunter!

And the truth is, as hard as it is to make a legal living.......

the Feds make it so hard, its really not worth it!!!


minutes T......i want minutes! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

was looking forward to meeting up in MIA at the local dive, but realized you guys are heading down on the ninth. guess i'm tossing a few back solo there on Sat morning. :lol:

[TNT72]

umm......sorry. Sid


Didn't mean to misspell your name.

You know I love you Sid!!!

[moshy2k]

The Republicans and Democrats are all cowards. Both side have screwed the country for years padding their own pensions and getting the best benefits taxpayer money can buy.

I say we install term limits (2 terms max) and ban lobbying..... Maybe that will help them do what is right for the country instead of only worrying about donations and getting elected. They all SUCK!!!!

[TNT72]

The Republicans and Democrats are all cowards. Both side have screwed the country for years padding their own pensions and getting the best benefits taxpayer money can buy.

I say we install term limits (2 terms max) and ban lobbying..... Maybe that will help them do what is right for the country instead of only worrying about donations and getting elected. They all SUCK!!!!

moshy2k, are you deputydogs wingman??

[FritoBandito]

Anyone who has done their research knows that it's not the social programs in America (welfare, foodstamps, etc.) that eat up most of the tax dollar, rather it's the MILITARY, SOCIAL SECURIty, AND MEDICARE, and interest payments on the debt -- though Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck want you to think differently......

And I love how the teabaggers assumed the mantle of the patriots of the Revolutionary War....hahaha...what a friggin' joke.....

If you could take teabaggers and put them in a time machine and send them back, they would NOT be the radicals, but the CONSERVATIVES who supported King George.....

But to tell you the truth, both parties, Democrat and Rerpublican, and the entire US political system is corrupted beyond repair. What you're witnessing now is the slow decline of the US as a nation. Every nation in the world has eventually had it's demise. Tothink that the US will survive in perpetuity as we know it today is ludicrous,

And the founding fathers of the US, if brought back today, would hang their heads in sorrow to see the plutocracy and theocracy-run government of today........everything they had fought against.......:(

[TNT72]

Anyone who has done their research knows that it's not the social programs in America (welfare, foodstamps, etc.) that eat up most of the tax dollar, rather it's the MILITARY, SOCIAL SECURIty, AND MEDICARE, and interest payments on the debt -- though Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck want you to think differently......

And I love how the teabaggers assumed the mantle of the patriots of the Revolutionary War....hahaha...what a friggin' joke.....

If you could take teabaggers and put them in a time machine and send them back, they would NOT be the radicals, but the CONSERVATIVES who supported King George.....

But to tell you the truth, both parties, Democrat and Rerpublican, and the entire US political system is corrupted beyond repair. What you're witnessing now is the slow decline of the US as a nation. Every nation in the world has eventually had it's demise. Tothink that the US will survive in perpetuity as we know it today is ludicrous,

And the founding fathers of the US, if brought back today, would hang their heads in sorrow to see the plutocracy and theocracy-run government of today........everything they had fought against.......:(

Again, wash your nuts, and shut the fuck up for a change!! Just like she was saying a message, you didn't hear it!

To support Military, ummmmm......you have to.

Wish you would admit to what you do, because as I've said before, I own a Bail Bond business. And I know for a fucking fact, that there is complete fucking families that do not work! Not a single fucking member!!

I'm sorry. But I personally feel that....if you are feeding and living off the teet of tax payers, you should not be able to breed more children that you not only don't teach to work, but you teach those kids to milk the teet of the USA.

[mattchanna]

Go Tea Party and make it a big ONE.

That's the last thing we need. We need more moderate thinkers in D.C. When one goes too far politically to either the right or the left, they become closed-minded and it makes compromise almost non-existent.