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yayow
05-13-2012, 05:52 PM
So one of my favorite restuarants in Boca Chica was called the Palm Bar, about 4 or 5 blocks from the strip, real good food, good service and a nice location to do some chica watching the owner was a Czechlovakian (sp?) guy, and by all accounts he was a good owner, paid the chicas working for him probably the best wages of any bar/restuarant in the area. Most of the chicas who worked for him came from the capital so he allowed them because he had a big house right behind the place to sleep in his spare rooms, and then they would go home for two or three days every two weeks or so. He had been in Boca Chica for twelve years and built up a great business, owned his house and restuarant out right etc. a true pilar of the community, and many of the ex-pats and visitors would spend time there eating and drinking.

I took a few of the Isoc family there when they visited, El Toro, Black Archer, Mr. Smooth etc. along with a Finnish friend, plus scores of others. Spent a lot of time there.

yayow
05-13-2012, 06:04 PM
So anyway, about three weeks ago, a Dominican guy built a small bar right next door in what was an empty lot. Because of the Palms reputation, it continued to be packed and I never saw anyone in the new next door bar. The next things that happened were very curious to say the least.

About 11 days ago, the police came into the Palm bar, and arrested the owner Ivan, saying it was for suspicion of drugs. I know I don't know everything but I never saw any indication of any drug activity at all at the place, normally if something like that is going on there are tell tale signs. One of my friends was there at the time of the raid. She is a 45 year old woman from Norway. She says right before the cops came in a Dominican male sat down at the bar, she is also a frequent guest of the place and said she had never saw this guy, but the guy buys her a dress from a passing vendor, and tells her if the police asks her any questions just say that she doesn't know anything :confused: She was confused by this, the guy didn't know her, why was he buying her anything, and why was he giving her advice about the cops. :confused:

Anyway we all figured they would do their investigation and Ivan would be out in a few days. Didn't happen that way they kept him in jail, then after he was there for I guess it was a week, they simply deported him. I have never seen anything like it. The day he got departed that same Dominican guy appeared again at the bar, the police again showed up and simply closed down the bar. Ivan's Dominican girlfriend showed up and rated the place and took everything all the liquor, barbecue pits etc. It was incredible.

Don't know if he has any more rights to his property or not, but the guy was there for 12 yrs without any complaints or allegations against him and this all happened to him in little more than a week. Just curious if you ask me, especially with the timing of the new bar next door, sounds like a big set-up.

yayow
05-13-2012, 06:10 PM
I certainly don't know all the details, but it is strange and happened real fast. I can't say positively that the allegations weren't true (although as I say, I never sure any indications of anything amiss), I don't know the guy like that, although he always seemed real quiet, and I enjoyed talking to him. We have lost a real good spot, and the chicas that worked there lost a real good job. I wish him well. I will miss the place met a lot of chicas sitting at that bar he had out front, it was right on the street and a lot of the chicas in the area passed by there on their way to Duarte to do some shopping, or the beach picked up quite a few numbers sitting on one of his bar stools. Great place to do chica watching. Guess I am going to have to find a new place, as I don't always like to go down to Duarte or the beach if I want a cold one, a true shame.

whynotme
05-13-2012, 06:13 PM
Just curious if you ask me, especially with the timing of the new bar next door, sounds like a big set-up.



it sure does
the dr (as well as most 3rd world countries) is not a place to be a foreign business owner

el toro
05-13-2012, 10:17 PM
Yeah that's a shame. I don't think I had eaten there, but it was a cool little spot to chill, watch the chicas and I enjoyed talking to the girls that worked there.

entourage
05-14-2012, 12:26 AM
That is suspect. I mean c'mon. I know outlandish shit happens there, but that by far has to be the most WTF story I have ever heard.

Mr. Smooth
05-14-2012, 03:01 AM
Totally fucked up! That was a nice little spot, and damn tasty food, too. I think you recommended the grilled bratwurst and it was great. And the chicas who worked there loved all the attention we gave them. When we were there, you guys were all having a good laugh at me trying to be sly (smooooooth) in getting one of the chicas numbers. I hope those girls can find another job.


What a shame. :mad:

MrHappy
05-14-2012, 08:57 AM
There are many expats here that own bars and other businesses who never have had something like this happen to them.

Where there's smoke, there's usually fire.

yayow
05-14-2012, 09:20 AM
There are many expats here that own bars and other businesses who never have had something like this happen to them.

Where there's smoke, there's usually fire.


That has always been one of my credos, beliefs as well, but just a lot of strange things, and how quickly things occurred, just very strange. Like I said I wasn't the guy's best friend or anything like that so certainly couldn't swear for him, but I have seen a few things in my life, and you are certainly right where there is smoke there is normally fire, but for the life of me, never saw anything suspicious about this place or that guy, I tend to notice those types of things.

But who really knows. Sometimes things that happen in other countries with the police and such, happen differently in places like the D.R. The other day, I was sitting in the park in the center of town, which is catty corner to the police station, so you tend to see a lot of the local cops just milling around, while you are in the park. A young lady comes over to sit with me, and she is giving this one cop standing a bit a way from us the stink eye, I notice and ask her why. She then proceeds to tell me how the cops in Boca tend to stop the chicas at night or during the day often and demand blowjobs and other sex acts, with the threat of locking them up, as ladronas. She said it was a common practice here (standard operating procedure), and the guy she was looking hard at, generally was one of them that would often do that to her, she wasn't happy about it, but there was nothing she could do about it.

So althouh generally speaking I agree with the theory of where there is smoke there is fire, credo, not always in places like the D.R., just my observations.

jose1234
05-14-2012, 09:41 AM
I bet the rumor mill in BC has a few stories about this and that is about as accurate a story as anyone can get. Planting drugs and deporting people does happen. All it takes is to piss the wrong people off who have connections and money.

Crytonb99
05-14-2012, 11:58 AM
Is this story related to what you were talking about Yayow??? I noticed there's a guy there named Ivan Zanze. They also talk about them being arrested in Boca Chica.

http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2012/5/11/43614/Dominican-agencies-deport-4-in-major-Eastern-Europe-bust

uncle ruckus
05-14-2012, 04:00 PM
Is this story related to what you were talking about Yayow??? I noticed there's a guy there named Ivan Zanze. They also talk about them being arrested in Boca Chica.

http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2012/5/11/43614/Dominican-agencies-deport-4-in-major-Eastern-Europe-bust

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there aren't 2 Eastern-Europeans named Ivan living in Boca Chica that were arrested within the last week. Also, DR police and military are in fact notoriously corrupt in all aspects. HOWEVER, there is one big exception, when international law enforcement is involved, the DR Policia Nacional turn into altar boys. If this was an INTERPOL case as indicated by the DT article, then I'd bet that things were done by the book in this case.

yayow
05-14-2012, 08:37 PM
Yeah that's him, and I did a little checking on my own, and my faith in Ivan I now know was misplaced, I am sorry to say. My sources have revealed that it does seem he was involved in drugs, they found 2 kilos in his residence. A total shame, but if he was doing wrong he is fortunate that they let him out of the country, instead of keeping him in jail.

yayow
05-14-2012, 08:39 PM
As Mr. Happy said often times where there is smoke there is fire, my apologies to the Dominican Police Dept. a job well done. :iconTU:

entourage
05-14-2012, 10:06 PM
Yep. Good job DNP.
I'm sure they are not off the hook. Maybe in the DR, but if they were handed over to INTERPOL their journey has most likely just begun.

yayow
05-14-2012, 10:35 PM
Yep. Good job DNP.
I'm sure they are not off the hook. Maybe in the DR, but if they were handed over to INTERPOL their journey has most likely just begun.

True that they got a lot more to deal with no doubt, but being a foreigner in a Dominican Prison is not a good thing.

Mr. Smooth
05-15-2012, 05:24 AM
As Mr. Happy said often times where there is smoke there is fire, my apologies to the Dominican Police Dept. a job well done. :iconTU:

Well..... look at the bright side. You now have a brand new bar nextdoor to check out! Stop by sometime and let us know whats up. Drink prices, chicas, food. All the usual bs. Maybe those chicas who lost their jobs can get hired at the new place.

Alls well that ends well I say. :iconTU: