Latinos

[Seville]

Latinos was closed for several days as the place went "under". Today I talked with the new people that are going to be running the place. I mentioned that it would be nice if there was actually a place that played Latin music at a level where people could still hold a conversation. Surprisingly I was told that was the plan. Of course the disco in back will be at a deafening level but that is to be expected. I was told they expect to re-open the first of July.

The high end moto rental and bar across from the New Garden has called it quits. That really sucks because apparently all the motos are being stored in my off-street parking area at the apartment. There is still room for me to park but obviously more congested.

La Roca re-opened last Thursday. I stopped in today for the Dominican Lunch Special. Chicken/Pork/Beef with salad, rice and beans was 125 pesos. It was quite good and very filling. My fat ass did not even finish it all.

[TNT72]

Latinos was closed for several days as the place when "under". Today I talked with the new people that are going to be running the place. I mentioned that it would be nice if there was actually a place that played Latin music at a level where people could still hold a conversation. Surprisingly I was told that was the plan. Of course the disco in back will be at a deafening level but that is to be expected. I was told they expect to re-open the first of July.

The high end moto rental and bar across from the New Garden has called it quits. That really sucks because apparently all the motos are being stored in my off-street parking area at the apartment. There is still room for me to park but obviously more congested.

La Roca re-opened last Thursday. I stopped in today for the Dominican Lunch Special. Chicken/Pork/Beef with salad, rice and beans was 125 pesos. It was quite good and very filling. My fat ass did not even finish it all.


Thats gonna be a great day this year!!!

[Skynyrd]

Latinos was closed for several days as the place when "under". Today I talked with the new people that are going to be running the place. I mentioned that it would be nice if there was actually a place that played Latin music at a level where people could still hold a conversation. Surprisingly I was told that was the plan. Of course the disco in back will be at a deafening level but that is to be expected. I was told they expect to re-open the first of July.

The high end moto rental and bar across from the New Garden has called it quits. That really sucks because apparently all the motos are being stored in my off-street parking area at the apartment. There is still room for me to park but obviously more congested.

La Roca re-opened last Thursday. I stopped in today for the Dominican Lunch Special. Chicken/Pork/Beef with salad, rice and beans was 125 pesos. It was quite good and very filling. My fat ass did not even finish it all.

Great intel:iconTU:

[Irie]

Thats gonna be a great day this year!!!


I think he key word here is "expect." :rofl::rofl::rofl:

When the register is accepting pesos, I'm there!:iconTU:

Thanks for the update Robert. :iconTU:

[eldorob]

Chicken/Pork/Beef with salad, rice and beans was 125 pesos. It was quite good and very filling. .

That right there.....makes me hard. Any pictures?

[Seville]

That right there.....makes me hard. Any pictures?

No doubt some tourist will have a camera with them sooner or later.:rofl::rofl:

[BrooklynBeas]

Used to love to eat a La Roca.. Thats good news... Be nice to see if a club or bar could actually compete

[dquick]

Thanks for the intel Robert. I just hope they reopen as scheduled, a couple days after I get in town. I have been getting tired of Classicos my last few trips, and have spent more time in Latinos. Without Latinos, I would have to leave Sosua for an alternative disco to Classicos.

[balcoach]

As I slowly readjust to the time here on this side of the world, I am getting out a bit more again. Sunday night was very relaxed with Bobby#'s and later with DRdreamer and Sporthobbyist. The later two and I went into classicos, not my usual spot, but was ok b/c wasn't crowded. Good time was had.... Funny note at classico's...... I was at the bar, buying a few drinks and this young lady beside me smiled, and i said hello and struck up a bit of conversation, then all of a sudden it went cold...I asked, is there a problem? did I offend you?...she replies..."no, you just sound too dominican, which tells me your "tocano" (cheap), I laughed and told her my spanish school was the streeets of this country, and she said she preferred to broken spanish, 2 or 3 words... HOLA --- COMO -- ESTAS? kind of gringos!! Instant classic in my book.

Went into WC...straight weekend warriors, times change, the place behind will reopen on thursday of this week i am told. The guy "franklin" who used to run WC will be running that spot now for the haitian owners. Will check this place out,need to find a new place to post up my fat ass.

I tried to do that at the POP bar, across from Latinos, (old el cultivo) where willy "el Chamo" is getting back into business, wasn't bad spot, good locale, chairs at the bar a bit uncomfortable, but the pricing is high, to high for what they want to do.

Pequena Presidente light came out to be 99 pesos after they added the tax in... too high to be trying to compete. Just my opinion, because locale could become a great spot to people watch and enjoy.

Its good to be back, getting into the swing of things.

[snoozer]

As I slowly readjust to the time here on this side of the world, I am getting out a bit more again. Sunday night was very relaxed with Bobby#'s and later with DRdreamer and Sporthobbyist. The later two and I went into classicos, not my usual spot, but was ok b/c wasn't crowded. Good time was had.... Funny note at classico's...... I was at the bar, buying a few drinks and this young lady beside me smiled, and i said hello and struck up a bit of conversation, then all of a sudden it went cold...I asked, is there a problem? did I offend you?...she replies..."no, you just sound too dominican, which tells me your "tocano" (cheap), I laughed and told her my spanish school was the streeets of this country, and she said she preferred to broken spanish, 2 or 3 words... HOLA --- COMO -- ESTAS? kind of gringos!! Instant classic in my book.

Went into WC...straight weekend warriors, times change, the place behind will reopen on thursday of this week i am told. The guy "franklin" who used to run WC will be running that spot now for the haitian owners. Will check this place out,need to find a new place to post up my fat ass.

I tried to do that at the POP bar, across from Latinos, (old el cultivo) where willy "el Chamo" is getting back into business, wasn't bad spot, good locale, chairs at the bar a bit uncomfortable, but the pricing is high, to high for what they want to do.

Pequena Presidente light came out to be 99 pesos after they added the tax in... too high to be trying to compete. Just my opinion, because locale could become a great spot to people watch and enjoy.

Its good to be back, getting into the swing of things.

Good to see you getting back into the swing of things. You belong here!!!

I figured you would be looking for a new home on Pedro Clisante after I spent an hour at Winners Circle one night.

I usually stop for a couple of drinks at POP bar but I find the music to be too much like WC as the night goes on. Two of the camereras were enjoying the demise of Gran Velero/Latinos, they were laid off from there when the new owners took over.

They also told me that Willie is building a disco in the back which he hopes will take some business away from Classico, not sure of the planned opening date.

The Circle of Life on Pedro Clisante continues.:iconTU::iconTU::iconTU:

[MrHappy]

I was at the bar, buying a few drinks and this young lady beside me smiled, and i said hello and struck up a bit of conversation, then all of a sudden it went cold...I asked, is there a problem? did I offend you?...she replies..."no, you just sound too dominican, which tells me your "tocano" (cheap), I laughed and told her my spanish school was the streeets of this country, and she said she preferred to broken spanish, 2 or 3 words... HOLA --- COMO -- ESTAS? kind of gringos!! Instant classic in my book.



The story of my life.

I've had girls insist I must be Dominican, because of my Spanish, therefore, I must be cheap.

But it's not a matter of being cheap, it's knowing what a dominican pays to tap that toto.

[uncle ruckus]

I was at the bar, buying a few drinks and this young lady beside me smiled, and i said hello and struck up a bit of conversation, then all of a sudden it went cold...I asked, is there a problem? did I offend you?...she replies..."no, you just sound too dominican, which tells me your "tocano" (cheap), I laughed and told her my spanish school was the streeets of this country, and she said she preferred to broken spanish, 2 or 3 words... HOLA --- COMO -- ESTAS? kind of gringos!! Instant classic in my book.

Welcome to my world! Happened to me last week with a Dominican stripper IN THE US! Didn't want to dance for me because "Dominicanos son tacaños".

[balcoach]

Welcome to my world! Happened to me last week with a Dominican stripper IN THE US! Didn't want to dance for me because "Dominicanos son tacaños".

The good thing about my "dominican" or "puta" or "calle" spanish, as it has been referred to me as in the past, it is well accepted once you get off of pedro clisante and into the pueblos and barrios and campo's of my segunda hogar!

[yayow]

The story of my life.

I've had girls insist I must be Dominican, because of my Spanish, therefore, I must be cheap.

But it's not a matter of being cheap, it's knowing what a dominican pays to tap that toto.

exactly....... some will never understand that, and that's why the chicas go to Sosua, cause they are getting overpaid...... so why wouldn't they, of course most of the gringos think it is because they love them.

[JD426]

exactly....... some will never understand that, and that's why the chicas go to Sosua, cause they are getting overpaid...... so why wouldn't they, of course most of the gringos think it is because they love them.

Yeagh, this whole Interaction just proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that these chicas are cooming to Sosua to be OVER paid by the (you fill in the blank) ... amazing.. its no longer to get paid, but hunting for Prey..
Its like these chicas are saying " hey get lost, you are fucking up my gig here, and wasting my time , I'm buzy WORKING Pendejos right now" .
This is what the strip is EVOLVING to ?...chicas hunting for suckers...and if there are enough of them, just like if it were an over abundance of Rabbits in a certain field, the foxes will set up shop there, to dine on them.
The Casinos IN Santo Domingo ,are the only thing even remotely compares. I jokingly used to mention the $300 offers even the fuglies used to throw out to see who bites, but hat shit is really coming to Sosua now.

[MrHappy]

Yeagh, this whole Interaction just proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that these chicas are cooming to Sosua to be OVER paid by the (you fill in the blank) ... amazing.. its no longer to get paid, but hunting for Prey..
Its like these chicas are saying " hey get lost, you are fucking up my gig here, and wasting my time , I'm buzy WORKING Pendejos right now" .
This is what the strip is EVOLVING to ?...chicas hunting for suckers...and if there are enough of them, just like if it were an over abundance of Rabbits in a certain field, the foxes will set up shop there, to dine on them.
The Casinos IN Santo Domingo ,are the only thing even remotely compares. I jokingly used to mention the $300 offers even the fuglies used to throw out to see who bites, but that shit is really coming to Sosua now.

Brother, Sosua has been like that for a looong time. It's just "blatant in your face" now.

[Seville]

Yeagh, this whole Interaction just proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that these chicas are cooming to Sosua to be OVER paid by the (you fill in the blank) ... amazing.. its no longer to get paid, but hunting for Prey..
Its like these chicas are saying " hey get lost, you are fucking up my gig here, and wasting my time , I'm buzy WORKING Pendejos right now" .
This is what the strip is EVOLVING to ?...chicas hunting for suckers...and if there are enough of them, just like if it were an over abundance of Rabbits in a certain field, the foxes will set up shop there, to dine on them.


It is a tourist town. Everybody from the moto guys to the beach vendors to the chicas are looking for suckers. A chica took a moto to my house the other day. When she arrived I handed the moto guy 25 pesos. He looks at me and says 100 pesos. I just shook my head at him and walked away.

A women vendor I know on the beach, talk to every day, and who knows I live here, tried the same shit. I wanted a pair of flip-flops for a chica I was with. She came back with a piece of shit pair and told me 650 pesos. I almost died laughing at that one it was such a blatant and ridicules rip-off.

Why should the chicas be any different?

[yayow]

Brother, Sosua has been like that for a looong time. It's just "blatant in your face" now.

The prey though thinks that they are actually the hunters and are getting over, they have no idea. But as long as they are happy, so be it. Can't believe how many guys are happily overpaying regularly, which is cool, but then to brag about it, I just don't get it. :confused:


It's like buying a fake rolex or something on the streets in NYC and then bragging that you paid $500 US for it or something, when you could have gotten it for a twenty. But hey they are players!

[JuanElGriego]

Funny note at classico's...... I was at the bar, buying a few drinks and this young lady beside me smiled, and i said hello and struck up a bit of conversation, then all of a sudden it went cold...I asked, is there a problem? did I offend you?...she replies..."no, you just sound too dominican, which tells me your "tocano" (cheap), I laughed and told her my spanish school was the streeets of this country, and she said she preferred to broken spanish, 2 or 3 words... HOLA --- COMO -- ESTAS? kind of gringos!! Instant classic in my book..

Reminds me of my last night last week. I was with a chick and two other "couples" walking in Puerto Plata. My chick and i were having a conversation ... as usual she was wrong about something and i let her know it in my own unique way, of course .... one of the other chicks blurts out "XXXXX tu novio no parece gringo el parece Dominicano". :rofl:



Went into WC...straight weekend warriors

One night the strip was completely dead ... WC was packed shoulder to shoulder, so there you go.

[DCIronman]

Brother, Sosua has been like that for a looong time. It's just "blatant in your face" now.
You took the words right out of my mouth. Sosua has always existed solely to fleece the gringos. From the family tourists to the mongers.

The only thing that has changed is the type of guy that goes there. The new WW doesn't really care about getting fleeced. So the chicas don't even have to bother with subtlety anymore.

[Seville]

You took the words right out of my mouth. Sosua has always existed solely to fleece the gringos. From the family tourists to the mongers.

The only thing that has changed is the type of guy that goes there. The new WW doesn't really care about getting fleeced. So the chicas don't even have to bother with subtlety anymore.


Very true. Compared to major cities in the US and Canada they think they are getting a bargain and don't know any better.

[JuanElGriego]

The good thing about my "dominican" or "puta" or "calle" spanish, as it has been referred to me as in the past, it is well accepted once you get off of pedro clisante and into the pueblos and barrios and campo's of my segunda hogar!

Exactly. For every PC regular that blows you off "por que tu sabes mucho" :rolleyes: ... your world is open to 1000x whom others can never dream of striking up a great deal with. :iconTU:

[JD426]

You took the words right out of my mouth. Sosua has always existed solely to fleece the gringos. From the family tourists to the mongers.

The only thing that has changed is the type of guy that goes there. The new WW doesn't really care about getting fleeced. So the chicas don't even have to bother with subtlety anymore.
Well that must be it right there,. they dont even have to hide it now ?.
So you are saying before they used to "pretend" that if someone spoke spanish that they enjoyed the banter in their native tongue, and NOW the guys speaking fluent spanish are a nuisance to them ?

Or , (and this is my interpretation) .. IF the guy is speaking and understanding too much DOMINICAN spanish (ie slang terms) then you are just too much trouble for them to try to fleece ... and I have heard this from a few chicas, and dudes as well, if you know too much "dominican SLANG" , and as you guys know Dominicans especially YOUNG Dominicans, seem to pride themselves on being able to talk spanish in front of you, even if you spoke proper spanish, and you wont know what they are talking about.

[MrHappy]

Very true. Compared to major cities in the US and Canada they think they are getting a bargain and don't know any better.

And worse, they're the majority.

It makes for a lot of "shakin' my head" moments.

It's become a "Look how much I spent" rather than a "Look what a deal I got" mentality.

[mrblackluv]

Great intel.:iconTU:

I am not surprised that reydel motors/bar is closed. Never saw many people in there, and the prices for the motorcycle rentals were high..and he wouldn't budge. I was with a guy once who on a whim was gonna rent 4 of them for all of us in the villa from about 3pm to 8pm. He offered half of the full day rate, and the owner said no. Those bikes never moved during the whole trip.

Never saw many people in the bar.. But I was "friendly" :wink::biggrin: with the bartenders. I hope they can find new jobs. They all had WU boyfriends..lol.. So I'm sure they will be alright.

[MrHappy]

Well that must be it right there,. they dont even have to hide it now ?.
So you are saying before they used to "pretend" that if someone spoke spanish that they enjoyed the banter in their native tongue, and NOW the guys speaking fluent spanish are a nuisance to them ?

Or , (and this is my interpretation) .. IF the guy is speaking and understanding too much DOMINICAN spanish (ie slang terms) then you are just too much trouble for them to try to fleece ... and I have heard this from a few chicas, and dudes as well, if you know too much "dominican SLANG" , and as you guys know Dominicans especially YOUNG Dominicans, seem to pride themselves on being able to talk spanish in front of you, even if you spoke proper spanish, and you wont know what they are talking about.

Imagine if you will, that you're a hooker for a second. In this corner, you have Mr. "Hyuk Hyuk", who just got off the plane, making it rain.

In the other corner, you got a guy throwing spanish around, and drinking a beer, watching the proceedings.

Which one would you head for?

[yayow]

Well that must be it right there,. they dont even have to hide it now ?.
So you are saying before they used to "pretend" that if someone spoke spanish that they enjoyed the banter in their native tongue, and NOW the guys speaking fluent spanish are a nuisance to them ?

Or , (and this is my interpretation) .. IF the guy is speaking and understanding too much DOMINICAN spanish (ie slang terms) then you are just too much trouble for them to try to fleece ... and I have heard this from a few chicas, and dudes as well, if you know too much "dominican SLANG" , and as you guys know Dominicans especially YOUNG Dominicans, seem to pride themselves on being able to talk spanish in front of you, even if you spoke proper spanish, and you wont know what they are talking about.

Something a phrase I always heard a lot when I used to live in Sosua, was "you know too much" always spoken by the Dominicanas in broken english. Cause they knew the game they were trying to play, and the one that got over on most gringos, wasn't getting over on me. There was some respect from some of them about that (as back then they always said it while chuckling a bit), cause they had met their match, but as you say and probably the predominant feeling from most dominicanas up there now, is one of disdain, because they aren't getting what they want from you, so why bother with you when there are so many others from whom they can get exactly what they want.

Can't really blame them much as Robert said, after all the knowledgeable monger approaches them the same way, if you find one that doesn't want to play ball with you, knowing that there are so many others willing to play ball the way you want to, you just move on to the next.

[Irie]

Imagine if you will, that you're a hooker for a second. In this corner, you have Mr. "Hyuk Hyuk", who just got off the plane, making it rain.

In the other corner, you got a guy throwing spanish around, and drinking a beer, watching the proceedings.

Which one would you head for?

Is this a trick question? :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

So with all of this being said, are we agreeing that occasionaly some Dominicans do actually use logic/ business sense? :rolleyes:

[JuanElGriego]

The prey though thinks that they are actually the hunters and are getting over, they have no idea. But as long as they are happy, so be it. Can't believe how many guys are happily overpaying regularly, which is cool, but then to brag about it, I just don't get it. :confused:

You have to understand their mentality ... the guys many laugh at for paying $100 to fuck a pretty chick are laughing cuz back home that's about an hour's worth of drinks and tips at a strip joint with nothing but blue balls to show for it.

They could give a flying fuck that similar pussy can be had for $35 less elswhere on the island or if they were better able to communicate with the girl.

For every dude on here who'll go back and forth with a chick over 500 pesos, there's a bunch of dudes thinking fuck this i'm on a 3-day vacation and like 2 Chainz said, "i'd rather spend money baby i don't spend time".

If these dudes are messing up the game for you, that's on you for still being at the tadpole stage in mongering after countless trips.

[yayow]

Is this a trick question? :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

So with all of this being said, are we agreeing that occasionaly some Dominicans do actually use logic/ business sense? :rolleyes:


You see there it is, so many guys go down there thinking all the people and chicas are stupid, simply because they don't have book knowledge, or can't spell well, but those same chicas regularly twist guys that have plenty of money, businesses, travel all the time, right around their lovely little fingers. Just look at how many chicas got guys all over the world paying for their life styles, sending WU, renting apts for them, etc. just because they gave them a little taste, truth be told those young ladies would be fucking anyhow, but they would be fucking their local tigre for food, and maybe a couple hundred pesos.

But instead they got these worldly foreigners paying them premimum coin for their pum, pum; taking them to restuarants they would never go to by their own means. Taking them to fancy resorts, having them live with them in thier villas, buying them jeepetas or motos. And of course having multiple guys sending them WU every single month.

Yeah they are dumb, ........dumb like a fox.

By the way when you look at it from this perspective what does that say about the foreign gringos???:confused:

[JuanElGriego]

By the way when you look at it from this perspective what does that say about the foreign gringos???:confused:

It says something we all know .... good pussy will turn the smartest man into the biggest fool.

[eastcoastallstar]

You have to understand their mentality ... the guys many laugh at for paying $100 to fuck a pretty chick are laughing cuz back home that's about an hour's worth of drinks and tips at a strip joint with nothing but blue balls to show for it.

They could give a flying fuck that similar pussy can be had for $35 less elswhere on the island or if they were better able to communicate with the girl.

For every dude on here who'll go back and forth with a chick over 500 pesos, there's a bunch of dudes thinking fuck this i'm on a 3-day vacation and like 2 Chainz said, "i'd rather spend money baby i don't spend time".

If these dudes are messing up the game for you, that's on you for still being at the tadpole stage in mongering after countless trips.

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[DCIronman]

Well that must be it right there,. they dont even have to hide it now ?.
So you are saying before they used to "pretend" that if someone spoke spanish that they enjoyed the banter in their native tongue, and NOW the guys speaking fluent spanish are a nuisance to them ?

Or , (and this is my interpretation) .. IF the guy is speaking and understanding too much DOMINICAN spanish (ie slang terms) then you are just too much trouble for them to try to fleece ... and I have heard this from a few chicas, and dudes as well, if you know too much "dominican SLANG" , and as you guys know Dominicans especially YOUNG Dominicans, seem to pride themselves on being able to talk spanish in front of you, even if you spoke proper spanish, and you wont know what they are talking about.

Nah. I don't believe that spanish slang makes you sound more dominican (to the chicas, or anyone else). It just makes you sound like a gringo who learned their spanish from putas and motoconchos. A hardcore chica that is out to fleece a gringo isn't going to care whether you speak spanish like a tigre or a local that's had some education. She's probably not going to want to deal with you. Not when there's plenty of "como estas" and "hola mami" gringos around.

If Uncle Ruckus speaks spanish like he writes english, then I really don't see him using a whole lot of slang and bad grammer. Yet some sosua puta still didn't want to deal with him because he was dominican and probably knows the game. It's what she perceives that he knows, not how he talks, that influenced her.

[BrooklynBeas]

good pussy will turn the smartest man into the biggest fool.

I never heard that before but thats a great fuckin line...

I thought I was the only guy to get the line, you know too much... Or you know mucho... Alot of shit the regulars are saying here happened to me as well... Nice to know we all have something in common... i almost thought I was special... lol

Tigeraso fo life.. lol

[yayow]

You have to understand their mentality ... the guys many laugh at for paying $100 to fuck a pretty chick are laughing cuz back home that's about an hour's worth of drinks and tips at a strip joint with nothing but blue balls to show for it.

They could give a flying fuck that similar pussy can be had for $35 less elswhere on the island or if they were better able to communicate with the girl.

For every dude on here who'll go back and forth with a chick over 500 pesos, there's a bunch of dudes thinking fuck this i'm on a 3-day vacation and like 2 Chainz said, "i'd rather spend money baby i don't spend time".

If these dudes are messing up the game for you, that's on you for still being at the tadpole stage in mongering after countless trips.



I actually do understand their mentality and you are right, it used to be my mentaility as well, but it isn't any longer. But understand it sure do, although mostly in a different realm. Well not different for your stripper example, cause as been documented many times on the pages of this board spent tons of money in strip joints in my life.

But also in my practical life, I was always the guy that when friends or my wife would say do it yourself when there was something to be done around the house, I simply would get on the phone and call a handyman or whoever to do the work, I rather pay someone than to waste my time doing it myself. Not exactly the same but from the same type of mentality.

[Jimmydr]

They could give a flying fuck that similar pussy can be had for $35 less elswhere on the island or if they were better able to communicate with the girl.

For every dude on here who'll go back and forth with a chick over 500 pesos, there's a bunch of dudes thinking fuck this i'm on a 3-day vacation and like 2 Chainz said, "i'd rather spend money baby i don't spend time".

If these dudes are messing up the game for you, that's on you for still being at the tadpole stage in mongering after countless trips.



Those are also the same guys that will never go on a month long vacation in their life.

[dquick]

For every dude on here who'll go back and forth with a chick over 500 pesos, there's a bunch of dudes thinking fuck this i'm on a 3-day vacation and like 2 Chainz said, "i'd rather spend money baby i don't spend time".


I always shake my head when I see somebody going back and forth over 500 pesos. At today's exchange rate, that is not even $13. Maybe some guys get off on bartering, I don't.

If a chica is asking for 500 pesos more than I offered and I think the price is still relatively fair, I will pay the extra 500 pesos. If I think that the extra 500 pesos is not a fair price, I say no AND END THE CONVERSATION. My vacation time is too valuable to debate over $13 dollars.

[MrHappy]

I always shake my head when I see somebody going back and forth over 500 pesos. At today's exchange rate, that is not even $13. Maybe some guys get off on bartering, I don't.

If a chica is asking for 500 pesos more than I offered and I think the price is still relatively fair, I will pay the extra 500 pesos. If I think that the extra 500 pesos is not a fair price, I say no AND END THE CONVERSATION. My vacation time is too valuable to debate over $13 dollars.

Life in general is too valuable to negotiate a price for toto.

Not only that, it sets the stage for disagreements later. Either folks are on the same page, or they ain't.

If they ain't, keep walking.

[yayow]

Life in general is too valuable to negotiate a price for toto.

Not only that, it sets the stage for disagreements later. Either folks are on the same page, or they ain't.

If they ain't, keep walking.


In a perfect world yeah....... unfortunately often times you think you are on the same page, only to find out later you are not.


In my opinion lack of negotiation sets the stage often times, for disagreements later, just sayin

[MrHappy]

In a perfect world yeah....... unfortunately often times you think you are on the same page, only to find out later you are not.


In my opinion lack of negotiation sets the stage often times, for disagreements later, just sayin

Of course it's possible..

But, to clarify what I'm saying a little further: You see a girl you like, ask her how much, she tells you. Either you agree, or you don't.

If you agree, grab her hand and go. If you don't, keep moving.

Example: You see one you think you have to have. She throws 3000 at you, and you think she's only worth 1500. Don't start negotiating a price. Just smile, say "some other time" and walk away.

If you think 3000 is good, because she is sooo hot, well...... like the man says, "It's your money"

I negotiate a lot of things, but never time with a woman.

I don't need any woman bad enough to pay silly prices.

[DCIronman]

Of course it's possible..

But, to clarify what I'm saying a little further: You see a girl you like, ask her how much, she tells you. Either you agree, or you don't.

If you agree, grab her hand and go. If you don't, keep moving.

Example: You see one you think you have to have. She throws 3000 at you, and you think she's only worth 1500. Don't start negotiating a price. Just smile, say "some other time" and walk away.

If you think 3000 is good, because she is sooo hot, well...... like the man says, "It's your money"

I negotiate a lot of things, but never time with a woman.

I don't need any woman bad enough to pay silly prices.

And that's actually a lot more negotiating than I do. The moment a chica throws any number at me, I don't care if it's 500 pesos, it's "okay, nice to have met you" and I'm sending her along with a pat on the ass.:rolleyes:

[yayow]

Of course it's possible..

But, to clarify what I'm saying a little further: You see a girl you like, ask her how much, she tells you. Either you agree, or you don't.

If you agree, grab her hand and go. If you don't, keep moving.

Example: You see one you think you have to have. She throws 3000 at you, and you think she's only worth 1500. Don't start negotiating a price. Just smile, say "some other time" and walk away.

If you think 3000 is good, because she is sooo hot, well...... like the man says, "It's your money"

I negotiate a lot of things, but never time with a woman.

I don't need any woman bad enough to pay silly prices.

Well I agree with you, because what you did was negotiate, because money was discussed before the deed, what I have a problem with is the guys who don't discuss shit and go back to the pad, and put something into her purse, that can cause problems, what you described above is exactly what I do and how I look at it.

[yayow]

And that's actually a lot more negotiating than I do. The moment a chica throws any number at me, I don't care if it's 500 pesos, it's "okay, nice to have met you" and I'm sending her along with a pat on the ass.:rolleyes:


So what you do is give her what you want, even if you never met her before, so have no track record with her, or any previous understanding, and you never have a problem with that?

And you would suggest everybody do this?

[steviewonder]

I don't need any woman bad enough to pay silly prices.


Should be printed on t-shirts, then handed out at the airport here in the DR. :wink:

[DCIronman]

Well I agree with you, because what you did was negotiate, because money was discussed before the deed, what I have a problem with is the guys who don't discuss shit and go back to the pad, and put something into her purse, that can cause problems, what you described above is exactly what I do and how I look at it.

Just curious. But why do you have a problem with this? If you choose not to do it this way, then fine. But a lot of guys are very successful with this method. And I can personally testify that I've had very few problems doing it this way.

So some guys choose not to negotiate prices with chicas? And they have very few problems doing it that way. Why do you have a problem with it? The chicas I deal with are satisfied with this arrangement (and have been for years before gringos taught them to negotiate). Why are you concerned because others go about this thing differently?:confused:

[yayow]

Of course it's possible..

But, to clarify what I'm saying a little further: You see a girl you like, ask her how much, she tells you. Either you agree, or you don't.

If you agree, grab her hand and go. If you don't, keep moving.
.....


By the way I do that with everything in the D.R., not just free lancers, I go into a store, I get approached by a vendor, I go into a casa, I ask how much, I say thank you and I start to work, normally not always, but often times they come back to you with a much better offer instead of losing your business. But it is still a form of negotiation, at least in my mind, we may have a difference in our definitions, but we tend to do the same things.

[yayow]

Just curious. But why do you have a problem with this? If you choose not to do it this way, then fine. But a lot of guys are very successful with this method. And I can personally testify that I've had very few problems doing it this way.

So some guys choose not to negotiate prices with chicas? And they have very few problems doing it that way. Why do you have a problem with it? The chicas I deal with are satisfied with this arrangement (and have been for years before gringos taught them to negotiate). Why are you concerned because others go about this thing differently?:confused:


Just wanted clarification, that's all; everybody got to do how they do, I am constantly learning, so I ask questions that's how I learn, I don't assume anything, sorry if my curiosity caused a problem, I haven't been successful that way, so I do have a problem with it, but it's my problem not yours,( cause the way you do it works for you), so I am trying to learn something different, a matter of fact I stated a couple of instances on my last visit to Sosua when I did it as you do it, and quite frankly I felt very uncomfortable in that situation (and it caused a problem for me, not a big one, but in my mind still a problem), so it is good for me to learn from someone like you who obviously do it all the time.

Of course if you don't wish for me to be curious, I can live with that too. And it's also for some newbies, who are reading these threads as well, so clarification can be a good thing, no?

[DCIronman]

So what you do is give her what you want, even if you never met her before, so have no track record with her, or any previous understanding, and you never have a problem with that?

And you would suggest everybody do this?

Nope. I pretty much always give around $1-1.5 for ST and $2-2.5 for TLN. And I've paid $3k for outstanding performers. So I pretty much pay what a lot of guys (except the ballers) are paying. I just don't discuss it beforehand.

And no, I've rarely had a problem doing it this way. But then, I don't generally fuck with chicas who'd have a problem getting $3k for TLN. I screen out those hos.

And no, I don't suggest that everybody do this. But I'm not everybody.:mrgreen: This is how I was taught to do it by the locals. And it works for me.

I honestly don't see why you find this so surprising, having spent so much time in the country. I didn't invent this method. This is how it's been done.

[DCIronman]

Just wanted clarification, that's all; everybody got to do how they do, I am constantly learning, so I ask questions that's how I learn, I don't assume anything, sorry if my curiosity caused a problem, I haven't been successful that way, so I do have a problem with it, but it's my problem not yours,( cause the way you do it works for you), so I am trying to learn something different, a matter of fact I stated a couple of instances on my last visit to Sosua when I did it as you do it, and quite frankly I felt very uncomfortable in that situation (and it caused a problem for me, not a big one, but in my mind still a problem), so it is good for me to learn from someone like you who obviously do it all the time.

Of course if you don't wish for me to be curious, I can live with that too. And it's also for some newbies, who are reading these threads as well, so clarification can be a good thing, no?

I have no problem at all clarifying. I was just responding to your post in which you said you had a problem with guys doing it that way. Maybe I read too much into your post. But then, I tend to read things quite literally. And it isn't the first time you've broached the subject.

To be honest, I had more problems back when I was negotiating prices with chicas than I do now. When dealing with freelancers, I've learned that screening and spending time developing a rapport with a chica goes a whole lot further towards avoiding problems than negotiating a price upfront.

[yayow]

Yeah I guess it is about what makes you comfortable, I guess the difference between you and I, is when I first started coming here to monger, I came with other mongers, more of the weekend warrior types (so that type is the type who taught me), whereas you were taught as you say more by the locals. Now I quickly learned the weekend warrior mentality wasn't for me, but that took a while to learn, I learned that on the ground and observing things, and yes asking questions, questions and observing has always been my best friends, I guess an occupational hazard.

Living here, I have learned to adapt to certain things, but as far as with the chicas, at least the hard core pros, that you will find in a place like Sosua, I have always felt more comfortable with getting it all out in the open, for me it has led to less problems, now I don't deal as much with the hard core putas as much any more. And the way I deal with them are different, but I have to deal with them differently because they aren't putas or at least full time putas, so they think of themselves differently, so my techniques with them are different, and with them I don't discuss money with them often prior to the deed, and I give them a regalo. The regalo is an amount of my choosing, and when dealing with them, I have very rarely had a problem with what I have given them. But with putas hard core putas which is the type that most will find in Sosua, I lay it all out on the table as soon as possible. But that's just me.

[DCIronman]

Yeah I guess it is about what makes you comfortable, I guess the difference between you and I, is when I first started coming here to monger, I came with other mongers, more of the weekend warrior types (so that type is the type who taught me), whereas you were taught as you say more by the locals. Now I quickly learned the weekend warrior mentality wasn't for me, but that took a while to learn, I learned that on the ground and observing things, and yes asking questions, questions and observing has always been my best friends, I guess an occupational hazard.


Don't get me wrong. I first started coming here with other mongers as well. And we stumbled along making newbie mistakes (there was no ISOC in '02). But we got a little better at it the more we came.

Then in '06, I spent a couple of months in Santiago learning spanish. The only other gringo around was my wingman. But he was wifed up and not hanging out much (see my "Chica Drama? Yo se." thread). So I mostly hung out and chased toto with my spanish teacher, as well as other young local I met during that time.

Those two months were a game changer for me. I got rid of a whole lot of preconceived notions I had. And I unlearned a lot of "bad" mongering habits. All in addition to learning the language and culture.

So yeah, I approach it in a different way. But I'm not the only one. There are a few on this board, who I suspect go about it in similar fashion. Like you said. It's whatever you're comfortable with. Personally, I'm comfortable with great sex and low drama.:iconTU:

[JuanElGriego]

I think Yayow's issue was simply that DC's approach should come with an asterisk because of his years in the game and the waters he swims in. This is not an approach that's wise when dealing with hardcore Pedro Clisante chicks.

Having said that, sometimes there's miscommunication even with cool chicks. Then you have to speak and make your point. Sometimes its 30 seconds of speaking and you have the chick and her friend (who wasn't even involved) both crying. "Juan, no tenias que hablar con ella asi". Oh well shit happens. Right Swiggy? :rofl: :rofl:

[DASBOOTY]

By the way I do that with everything in the D.R., not just free lancers, I go into a store, I get approached by a vendor, I go into a casa, I ask how much, I say thank you and I start to work, normally not always, but often times they come back to you with a much better offer instead of losing your business. But it is still a form of negotiation, at least in my mind, we may have a difference in our definitions, but we tend to do the same things.

Exactamente, yayow!

I always ask price beforehand in the DR. That includes chicas, motoconchos, taxis, street vendors etc. I have found that if I don't discuss price beforehand it leaves me open to being taken advantage of.

A few times I have not discussed prices with chicas before the session they used it to their advantage afterwards.

An example is this morena chica from STI named Elizabeth that I sessioned with in Sosua for a couple of nights back in January 2010. The first night we agreed on $1500 pesos for a ST session. Afterwards, she asked if we can get together the next night and I agreed.

So we meet the next night. I didn't discuss price with her before the session...................turned out to be a mistake. After we session I pull out $1500 pesos to give to her and she says, "That will be $2000 pesos........mi amor" :surprised:. I knew she had a case against me so I paid up with no arguement.

After that, I refused to session with her again.

That being said, if it works for a guy not to discuss price beforehand with the chicas......................the more power to him :iconTU:.

[MrHappy]

Don't get me wrong. I first started coming here with other mongers as well. And we stumbled along making newbie mistakes (there was no ISOC in '02). But we got a little better at it the more we came.

Then in '06, I spent a couple of months in Santiago learning spanish. The only other gringo around was my wingman. But he was wifed up and not hanging out much (see my "Chica Drama? Yo se." thread). So I mostly hung out and chased toto with my spanish teacher, as well as other young local I met during that time.

Those two months were a game changer for me. I got rid of a whole lot of preconceived notions I had. And I unlearned a lot of "bad" mongering habits. All in addition to learning the language and culture.

So yeah, I approach it in a different way. But I'm not the only one. There are a few on this board, who I suspect go about it in similar fashion. Like you said. It's whatever you're comfortable with. Personally, I'm comfortable with great sex and low drama.:iconTU:

Fuck, has it been that long already????

Maybe I'm looking at all of this from the wrong perspective. Maybe it's the comfort level we have.

Guys like me, and to a slightly lesser extent, guys like you and Yayow have crossed into a comfort level (can you call it that?) that new guys don't have, and therefore interact with girls a lot differently than most of the other guys.

All you have to do is watch LMDJ videos on approaching girls for anal sex. "Hi, I like you, do you take dick in the ass?" or words to that effect.

I'm not sure, but I'd guess you guys don't use that approach very often.

Even without having a total command of the language, one becomes more and more comfortable dealing with girls here, and learn the different idiosyncrasies of their ways of looking at things, and develop an approach that works, and it sure is hell isn't " Hi, my name is XXX, do you take it up the Hershey highway?"

It's the difference between hitting the ground running, and falling flat on your face.

[JuanElGriego]

Fuck, has it been that long already????

Maybe I'm looking at all of this from the wrong perspective. Maybe it's the comfort level we have.

Guys like me, and to a slightly lesser extent, guys like you and Yayow have crossed into a comfort level (can you call it that?) that new guys don't have, and therefore interact with girls a lot differently than most of the other guys.

All you have to do is watch LMDJ videos on approaching girls for anal sex. "Hi, I like you, do you take dick in the ass?" or words to that effect.

I'm not sure, but I'd guess you guys don't use that approach very often.

Even without having a total command of the language, one becomes more and more comfortable dealing with girls here, and learn the different idiosyncrasies of their ways of looking at things, and develop an approach that works, and it sure is hell isn't " Hi, my name is XXX, do you take it up the Hershey highway?"

It's the difference between hitting the ground running, and falling flat on your face.

On Pedro Clisante that approach highlighted works just fine. Quick and to the point.

In Santiago where DC hones his craft its much different ....




he has to use "usted".


:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[uncle ruckus]

On Pedro Clisante that approach highlighted works just fine. Quick and to the point.

In Santiago where DC hones his craft its much different ....






And joke aside, this is the real difference. If you're in Sosua or in a casa dealing with a pro, the best thing is to negotiate and agree up front to avoid any misunderstandings later on.

If you're in Santiago or Bonao meeting up with some chica who's going to school or works during the day and offer her money upfront like a ho, you're very likely to get slapped. Those girls still expect something for their time, but if you throw it in their face that she's just a prostitute, you're going to offend her. So both methods are right, you just gotta know when to apply which one.

I never discuss money with a "regular" chica. When I take them back home, I give them $1k "para el salon manana" and I've never had any problems at all. If I tried the same thing in Sosua, the bitch would try to stab me.

So the moral is to recognize that even though you think all women are hos, you can't treat them all like hos,

[dquick]

And joke aside, this is the real difference. If you're in Sosua or in a casa dealing with a pro, the best thing is to negotiate and agree up front to avoid any misunderstandings later on.

If you're in Santiago or Bonao meeting up with some chica who's going to school or works during the day and offer her money upfront like a ho, you're very likely to get slapped. Those girls still expect something for their time, but if you throw it in their face that she's just a prostitute, you're going to offend her. So both methods are right, you just gotta know when to apply which one.

I never discuss money with a "regular" chica. When I take them back home, I give them $1k "para el salon manana" and I've never had any problems at all. If I tried the same thing in Sosua, the bitch would try to stab me.

So the moral is to recognize that even though you think all women are hos, you can't treat them all like hos,

Thank you Uncle. I always worry that a newbie will read posts from guys who never negotiate up front and not realize that these guys are not getting their chicas from PC and are not dealing with full time putas. They stick with non-pros when employing this method, or semi-pros at the most.

Just so new guys know, there is no such thing as a semi pro in Classicos or in a Sosua bar at night. SHE IS A PUTA! When dealing with a puta you don't know, i.e. a chica whose only source of income in fuckings, make sure you have a price understanding up front.

Ok. Enough of me giving advice, of all people. Time to make sure I still know how to open a condom wrapper before my next trip.

[Irie]

Ok. Enough of me giving advice, of all people. Time to make sure I still know how to open a condom wrapper before my next trip.

Turning over a new leaf, huh? I like the new motto........ :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:




http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=49301&d=1340239726

[DCIronman]

And joke aside, this is the real difference. If you're in Sosua or in a casa dealing with a pro, the best thing is to negotiate and agree up front to avoid any misunderstandings later on.

If you're in Santiago or Bonao meeting up with some chica who's going to school or works during the day and offer her money upfront like a ho, you're very likely to get slapped. Those girls still expect something for their time, but if you throw it in their face that she's just a prostitute, you're going to offend her. So both methods are right, you just gotta know when to apply which one.

I never discuss money with a "regular" chica. When I take them back home, I give them $1k "para el salon manana" and I've never had any problems at all. If I tried the same thing in Sosua, the bitch would try to stab me.

So the moral is to recognize that even though you think all women are hos, you can't treat them all like hos,

To be totally honest, I employ the same method in Sosua as well. I just avoid the hardcore pros by spending a large amount of time screening them out.

Haven't been to Sosua in over 2 years. But I've been doing it this way with freelancers since '06. No matter where I am. Shit, I do it this way with freelancers in Medellin as well.

But I never said that those inexperienced or new to the game should roll like me. Do it whichever way you feel most comfortable.

[eastcoastallstar]

Turning over a new leaf, huh? I like the new motto........ :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:




Click to see pic (http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=49301&d=1340239726)

Dont forget to Thank EastCoast :iconTU:

[Hemp]

Outstanding Post! :iconTU:



You have to understand their mentality ... the guys many laugh at for paying $100 to fuck a pretty chick are laughing cuz back home that's about an hour's worth of drinks and tips at a strip joint with nothing but blue balls to show for it.

They could give a flying fuck that similar pussy can be had for $35 less elswhere on the island or if they were better able to communicate with the girl.

For every dude on here who'll go back and forth with a chick over 500 pesos, there's a bunch of dudes thinking fuck this i'm on a 3-day vacation and like 2 Chainz said, "i'd rather spend money baby i don't spend time".

If these dudes are messing up the game for you, that's on you for still being at the tadpole stage in mongering after countless trips.

[DCIronman]

Thank you Uncle. I always worry that a newbie will read posts from guys who never negotiate up front and not realize that these guys are not getting their chicas from PC and are not dealing with full time putas. They stick with non-pros when employing this method, or semi-pros at the most.

Just so new guys know, there is no such thing as a semi pro in Classicos or in a Sosua bar at night. SHE IS A PUTA! When dealing with a puta you don't know, i.e. a chica whose only source of income in fuckings, make sure you have a price understanding up front.

Ok. Enough of me giving advice, of all people. Time to make sure I still know how to open a condom wrapper before my next trip.

Stick to what you know man. There are tons of semi-pro chicas on PC. Yes, even in Classicos. You obviously don't know how to find them. Hint: they aren't in the bathroom at Rhumbas giving blowjobs, or in After One sniffing coke.

Semi-pros and those fresh in the game are my meat and potatoes when I'm in Sosua. They are what I know. And my method works perfectly with them.

I hit up Classicos every night when I'm in Sosua. Thus far I haven't had an problems finding a chica while avoiding the hardcore putas. And I don't negotiate a price with them upfront.

But let me repeat. THIS IS NOT FOR NEWBIES OR THE INEXPERIENCED.

I am neither of those things. Therefore I can, and do, use this method with success.

This always seems to come up when talking about chicas in Sosua. And we always seem to beat it to death for some reason.

[eastcoastallstar]

To be totally honest, I employ the same method in Sosua as well. I just avoid the hardcore pros by spending a large amount of time screening them out.

Haven't been to Sosua in over 2 years. But I've been doing it this way with freelancers since '06. No matter where I am. Shit, I do it this way with freelancers in Medellin as well.

But I never said that those inexperienced or new to the game should roll like me. Do it whichever way you feel most comfortable.


I'll speak on this.

In my trip Panama Trip Report, I mentioned something about knowing who you are and being honest with yourself. I say that to say this.

There are certain people that can roll with supreme confidence in themselves, we are not talking about faking it or forcing it.

When you have that confidence, you exude it, people pick up on it, Women with their intution pick up on it, they are attracted to it and they roll with it.

They want to be in the company of men like this. If you dont understand that, then you probably don't have that sort of confidence.

Ever wonder why Some guys get bitches to spread their pussy wide open for a pic and she's the same bitch that says no photo to some other guy?

Ever wonder why a chick will spend the whole night and day with a guy and get 2000 pesos for it, she probably wanted more, but she's not gonna throw a tantrum around that guy?

I can list 100 other situations. But it boils down to Real Confidence in yourself.

But even if you have that confidence, you also make the right decisions on who you can pull that off on.

I'm rambling, I know, but Man, I'm sick of the same topics.

[dquick]

Stick to what you know man. There are tons of semi-pro chicas on PC. Yes, even in Classicos. You obviously don't know how to find them. Hint: they aren't in the bathroom at Rhumbas giving blowjobs, or in After One sniffing coke.

Semi-pros and those fresh in the game are my meat and potatoes when I'm in Sosua. They are what I know. And my method works perfectly with them.

I hit up Classicos every night when I'm in Sosua. Thus far I haven't had an problems finding a chica while avoiding the hardcore putas. And I don't negotiate a price with them upfront.

But let me repeat. THIS IS NOT FOR NEWBIES OR THE INEXPERIENCED.

I am neither of those things. Therefore I can, and do, use this method with success.

This always seems to come up when talking about chicas in Sosua. And we always seem to beat it to death for some reason.


Probably because you seem to think that Sosua has not changed in 2 years. I could not tell you about Sousa 2 years ago, but it has changed in the 1 1/2 years I have been going.

One other thing, semi-pro in classicos??? Maybe there is a new Puta in Classicos. I know that Uncle Ruck met a new chica named Lincy Superbowl weekend in Classicos. She was new and shy. Months later, I met her in Rumba and DQUICKed her. Later VP met her and had a orgy with her and her friends. Last post I read about her from VP, she is now asking 3000 pesos para un hora.

Two years in a long time in Sosua. Stick to what you know man.

[DCIronman]

Probably because you seem to think that Sosua has not changed in 2 years. I could not tell you about Sousa 2 years ago, but it has changed in the 1 1/2 years I have been going.

One other thing, semi-pro in classicos??? Maybe there is a new Puta in Classicos. I know that Uncle Ruck met a new chica named Lincy Superbowl weekend in Classicos. She was new and shy. Months later, I met her in Rumba and DQUICKed her. Later VP met her and had a orgy with her and her friends. Last post I read about her from VP, she is now asking 3000 pesos para un hora.

Two years in a long time in Sosua. Stick to what you know man.

Really??? Listen to yourself. 1 1/2 years experience, and you think that you can speak on how Sosua has changed.

Though I haven't been to Sosua in a few years, I know plenty of guys that go on a regular basis. Guys who have been going for way longer than a couple of years. And they keep me updated. In addition, there are vets on this board who can tell you what I am about to. Sosua hasn't really changed. Just a new breed of mongers go there. Yes, the girls may be a little more aggressive with their pricing. But the game in Sosua, for the most part, has not changed. Tons of semi-pros and those new to the game flock to Sosua every weekend. Inexperienced mongers like you just don't know how to find them. It's been going on for years man.

Hell, there are plenty of vets on this board who go to Sosua and do the same thing they've been doing for years. They don't let the new breed of WW affect them. Because they have experience and know how, it's mostly business as usual for them.

But you know what? With 1 1/2 years experience in Sosua, you don't have a clue as to what I'm talking about. So I repeat, STICK TO WHAT YOU KNOW.:rolleyes:

[eastcoastallstar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agixbSa51QA&feature=relmfu

[dr1lvr]

I always shake my head when I see somebody going back and forth over 500 pesos. At today's exchange rate, that is not even $13. Maybe some guys get off on bartering, I don't.

If a chica is asking for 500 pesos more than I offered and I think the price is still relatively fair, I will pay the extra 500 pesos. If I think that the extra 500 pesos is not a fair price, I say no AND END THE CONVERSATION. My vacation time is too valuable to debate over $13 dollars.

Or condoms for that matter.....:lol:

[dquick]

Really??? Listen to yourself. 1 1/2 years experience, and you think that you can speak on how Sosua has changed.

Though I haven't been to Sosua in a few years, I know plenty of guys that go on a regular basis. Guys who have been going for way longer than a couple of years. And they keep me updated. In addition, there are vets on this board who can tell you what I am about to. Sosua hasn't really changed. Just a new breed of mongers go there. Yes, the girls may be a little more aggressive with their pricing. But the game in Sosua, for the most part, has not changed. Tons of semi-pros and those new to the game flock to Sosua every weekend. Inexperienced mongers like you just don't know how to find them. It's been going on for years man.

Hell, there are plenty of vets on this board who go to Sosua and do the same thing they've been doing for years. They don't let the new breed of WW affect them. Because they have experience and know how, it's mostly business as usual for them.

But you know what? With 1 1/2 years experience in Sosua, you don't have a clue as to what I'm talking about. So I repeat, STICK TO WHAT YOU KNOW.:rolleyes:

New girls come to Sosua all the time. But they did not come to Sosua on their one day off from their full time job. (If her only job is fuckings, what is she????)

But hey. You could be right. Your method may work drama free in Sosua today. Its pretty hard for me to judge your methods from just vague posts. But your post sound more like boasting and don't share useful information. Maybe you can bless us less experienced members with your knowledge in a detailed trip report. The last one I see from you was dated over 2 years ago and was pretty weak.

Just saying.

[Hemp]

lol...smh, nothings changed

these are the same post i used to read back in 2006... :p stick to the informed script and you straight.

only thing WW seems more abundant, thats all

[dr1lvr]

EXCELLENT POST! :p


lol...smh, nothings changed

these are the same post i used to read back in 2006... :p stick to the informed script and you straight.

only thing WW seems more abundant, thats all

[DCIronman]

New girls come to Sosua all the time. But they did not come to Sosua on their one day off from their full time job. (If her only job is fuckings, what is she????)

But hey. You could be right. Your method may work drama free in Sosua today. Its pretty hard for me to judge your methods from just vague posts. But your post sound more like boasting and don't share useful information. Maybe you can bless us less experienced members with your knowledge in a detailed trip report. The last one I see from you was dated over 2 years ago and was pretty weak.

Just saying.

The highlighted sentence shows just how little you know. There are plenty of chicas who come up for fri. and sat. night, and leave on sunday. That has always been the case, and will never change as long as gringos continue to come to Sosua.

And I don't boast about fucking hookers. That's just lame. I merely share what I've learned with the board. You may not find it interesting or useful because I don't raw-dog hookers or court all types of unnecessary drama. Like I said, I merely share what I've learned and experienced in this hobby. And enough members find what I share useful that I get tons of pms asking for more info. Because I advise members on how to avoid the type of bullshit that you get yourself into.

Don't know what you read that was dated two years ago. Because I haven't really done a full trip report in a while (possibly never). I started one on my first trip to Medellin. But I lost interest and never finished it. Not going to start a new one for you. I have absolutely nothing to prove to anyone. I have started many threads in the past detailing my experiences mongering in the DR. If you are really interested you're going to have to use the search function. I care not what you do.

And I believe you've been misinformed. Even though you may feel that my experiences are weak, any that I've posted about are way more informative than your clownish escapades. Even though we enjoy your reports, don't get it twisted, most don't expect to learn from them. Just because we get some twisted enjoyment out of them (like watching a train/car wreck, or retards playing with firearms), don't fool yourself into thinking that anyone has actually learned something from them. Except what not to do. I guess you can claim that if you're truly desperate.

[Mr. Smooth]

I'll speak on this.

In my trip Panama Trip Report, I mentioned something about knowing who you are and being honest with yourself. I say that to say this.

There are certain people that can roll with supreme confidence in themselves, we are not talking about faking it or forcing it.

When you have that confidence, you exude it, people pick up on it, Women with their intution pick up on it, they are attracted to it and they roll with it.

They want to be in the company of men like this. If you dont understand that, then you probably don't have that sort of confidence.

Ever wonder why Some guys get bitches to spread their pussy wide open for a pic and she's the same bitch that says no photo to some other guy?

Ever wonder why a chick will spend the whole night and day with a guy and get 2000 pesos for it, she probably wanted more, but she's not gonna throw a tantrum around that guy?

I can list 100 other situations. But it boils down to Real Confidence in yourself.

But even if you have that confidence, you also make the right decisions on who you can pull that off on.

I'm rambling, I know, but Man, I'm sick of the same topics.

Nice to see you coming out of your shell! You've been a wallflower too long! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


BTW, I like your new avatar. You New York dudes really seem to have an affinity for DeNiro. Great actor! Shoulda got the Oscar for GoodFellas.

[dquick]

New girls come to Sosua all the time. But they did not come to Sosua on their one day off from their full time job. (If her only job is fuckings, what is she????)



The highlighted sentence shows just how little you know. There are plenty of chicas who come up for fri. and sat. night, and leave on sunday. That has always been the case, and will never change as long as gringos continue to come to Sosua.


You may want to read the section that you highlighted again. (......Done reading DC?) Now explain to me how a chica can be working a 6 day a week job in another city, but be in Sosua Friday, Saturday, and travel back Sunday. I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you were talking about some of the Sosua chicas who are also students. Is this what you are calling a Sosua semi-pro? I remeber when I was in college, there were girls who were stripping or working as a call girl on the weekend. I guess you called them semi-hoes in college too. :confused:



And I don't boast about fucking hookers. That's just lame. I merely share what I've learned with the board. You may not find it interesting or useful because I don't raw-dog hookers or court all types of unnecessary drama. Like I said, I merely share what I've learned and experienced in this hobby. And enough members find what I share useful that I get tons of pms asking for more info. Because I advise members on how to avoid the type of bullshit that you get yourself into.


Hmmmmm. Maybe I have missed a trip report of yours. Tell me where you shared all this useful information. I only have been in Santiago a couple of days this year. I posted about the hotel I stayed in, restaurants I ate at, places in visited, and about the chica I fucked. All this was accompanied with pics. You claim to go to Santiago all the time. Where is the useful information that you posted????




Don't know what you read that was dated two years ago. Because I haven't really done a full trip report in a while (possibly never). I started one on my first trip to Medellin. But I lost interest and never finished it. Not going to start a new one for you. I have absolutely nothing to prove to anyone. I have started many threads in the past detailing my experiences mongering in the DR. If you are really interested you're going to have to use the search function. I care not what you do.


http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/showthread.php?265080-DCIronman-s-Virgin-Trip-to-Medellin&highlight=

Yep. That is the one I am talking about. Pretty weak. I took a look at that one recently, before I took my first trip to Medellin. Found nothing useful in it. I am very glad many other members posted detailed and useful trip reports about Medellin. Others like Jimmy, Jack, and Questioner posted detailed reports which made my first trip much easier. (And thank you to those who posted great trip reports.)



And I believe you've been misinformed. Even though you may feel that my experiences are weak, any that I've posted about are way more informative than your clownish escapades. Even though we enjoy your reports, don't get it twisted, most don't expect to learn from them. Just because we get some twisted enjoyment out of them (like watching a train/car wreck, or retards playing with firearms), don't fool yourself into thinking that anyone has actually learned something from them. Except what not to do. I guess you can claim that if you're truly desperate.

I have no knowledge about your experiences. As you states above, you don't see the need to do trip reports. If you really read my report, besides my escapades, you will find plenty of detailed information about an area. Read my Cuba report, don't think you have been there DC. You will find most of what you need to know, if you ever want to go to Havana.

Maybe I am "misinformed". Please point me to all this useful information you have posted. I am eager to learn from such an experienced monger. I only can find post that sound like this----

DCIRONMAN: I can monger this way because I an SO experienced and understand SO much about the culture. Chicas know better than to try me. Yada Yada Yada.

Statements like this are hard to evaluate when you never spend the time to write the full story. Just saying....

[MrHappy]

Really??? Listen to yourself. 1 1/2 years experience, and you think that you can speak on how Sosua has changed.

Though I haven't been to Sosua in a few years, I know plenty of guys that go on a regular basis. Guys who have been going for way longer than a couple of years. And they keep me updated. In addition, there are vets on this board who can tell you what I am about to. Sosua hasn't really changed. Just a new breed of mongers go there. Yes, the girls may be a little more aggressive with their pricing. But the game in Sosua, for the most part, has not changed. Tons of semi-pros and those new to the game flock to Sosua every weekend. Inexperienced mongers like you just don't know how to find them. It's been going on for years man.

Hell, there are plenty of vets on this board who go to Sosua and do the same thing they've been doing for years. They don't let the new breed of WW affect them. Because they have experience and know how, it's mostly business as usual for them.

But you know what? With 1 1/2 years experience in Sosua, you don't have a clue as to what I'm talking about. So I repeat, STICK TO WHAT YOU KNOW.:rolleyes:


Word!

I was fucking whores in Sosua before that fine young man was born. Ain't gotta say nothin' else.

[Hemp]

Thats Swag! :iconTU:



[QUOTE=DCIronman;1128731]Really??? Listen to yourself. 1 1/2 years experience, and you think that you can speak on how Sosua has changed.


I was fucking whores in Sosua before that fine young man was born. Ain't gotta say nothin' else.

[DCIronman]

You may want to read the section that you highlighted again. (......Done reading DC?) Now explain to me how a chica can be working a 6 day a week job in another city, but be in Sosua Friday, Saturday, and travel back Sunday. I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you were talking about some of the Sosua chicas who are also students. Is this what you are calling a Sosua semi-pro? I remeber when I was in college, there were girls who were stripping or working as a call girl on the weekend. I guess you called them semi-hoes in college too. :confused:



Hmmmmm. Maybe I have missed a trip report of yours. Tell me where you shared all this useful information. I only have been in Santiago a couple of days this year. I posted about the hotel I stayed in, restaurants I ate at, places in visited, and about the chica I fucked. All this was accompanied with pics. You claim to go to Santiago all the time. Where is the useful information that you posted????




http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/showthread.php?265080-DCIronman-s-Virgin-Trip-to-Medellin&highlight=

Yep. That is the one I am talking about. Pretty weak. I took a look at that one recently, before I took my first trip to Medellin. Found nothing useful in it. I am very glad many other members posted detailed and useful trip reports about Medellin. Others like Jimmy, Jack, and Questioner posted detailed reports which made my first trip much easier. (And thank you to those who posted great trip reports.)



I have no knowledge about your experiences. As you states above, you don't see the need to do trip reports. If you really read my report, besides my escapades, you will find plenty of detailed information about an area. Read my Cuba report, don't think you have been there DC. You will find most of what you need to know, if you ever want to go to Havana.

Maybe I am "misinformed". Please point me to all this useful information you have posted. I am eager to learn from such an experienced monger. I only can find post that sound like this----

DCIRONMAN: I can monger this way because I an SO experienced and understand SO much about the culture. Chicas know better than to try me. Yada Yada Yada.

Statements like this are hard to evaluate when you never spend the time to write the full story. Just saying....

You wrote all of this to say what? That you don't know how to use the search function? You mean to tell me that the unfinished TR I did on Medellin was the only thread of mine that you found?

Well I don't know what to tell you. I can't help it if you don't know how to use the search function on this site. I haven't made well over a thousand posts about nothing.

Well here's a clue. Every single thing that you posted about Santiago was nothing new. I've made more posts about the place than I can count. And have answered innumerable pms about it. If you'd read half the things I've posted about Santiago, you wouldn't have fucked up so much while you were there. I'm surprised you're even using your trip there as an example. You talking about that trip where you got your tires slashed? Seriously? Where was the useful info in that.

Detailed information??? Sorry dude, all I see is you fucking up time and time again. Thanks to EC there's even a name for it now (and a t-shirt). One that you pathetically wear as a badge of honor. Do you actually think that shit is a compliment? Get a clue. You're a joke. And no one...Let me repeat that. NO ONE wants to follow your example.

As far as your comment about Sosua chicas, try again. Not all dominicans work six days a week. Yes, a lot of them do. But not all are so fortunate to have that type of steady employment. If they do, they probably aren't coming to Sosua. Many chicas do work, but have the weekends off and come to Sosua. And a lot of them come during the weekdays from the surrounding areas like POP. I have met semi-pros at their jobs. And you could as well. But you're too busy chasing around coke heads to go after any of the quality toto around you. And you don't know shit about what you think you know.

Thing is, 1 1/2 years is enough for most to learn a little about Sosua. But you haven't learned shit during that time since it was spent "Dquicking".

As for trip reports, I could write about my last trip to Medellin, it was a good one. And I might. But you wouldn't get anything out of it. I didn't rawdog any hookers and I didn't have any problems with the police. In fact, I'll warn you in advance, there was very little "Dquicking" going on. Just good sex, tons of fun, and very little drama. You probably wouldn't get much out of it.:rofl:

[yayow]

Both you gentlemen have made your points, and now it is becoming a bit of a pissing match, trust me I know of pissing matches :wink:, no one wins in them. You both are good guys and contribute greatly to the site, albeit in different ways. Before it starts to get much more personal, than it already has become, let's take a deep breath and leave it where it is, the back and forth is getting us no where. Part of the attraction of the board is that we do it differently, there is no right and wrong, it's what's right and wrong for that particular individual. I personally do it differently than both of you guys in regards to some aspects, doesn't mean I can't learn something from both of you. And I have. Besides that because we do things differently at times, doesn't mean we can't engage in a conversation of the merits or lack thereof, from our observations or personal experiences. Others can gain something from the give and take, whether as an example of what to do or how to do it, or what not to do or how not to do it.

Of course you can totally disregard this and continue until it escalates, to a point it doesn't need to get to, just sayin.

Carry on. :corky:

[greydread]

Both you gentlemen have made your points, and now it is becoming a bit of a pissing match, trust me I know of pissing matches :wink:, no one wins in them. You both are good guys and contribute greatly to the site, albeit in different ways. Before it starts to get much more personal, than it already has become, let's take a deep breath and leave it where it is, the back and forth is getting us no where. Part of the attraction of the board is that we do it differently, there is no right and wrong, it's what's right and wrong for that particular individual. I personally do it differently than both of you guys in regards to some aspects, doesn't mean I can't learn something from both of you. And I have. Besides that because we do things differently at times, doesn't mean we can't engage in a conversation of the merits or lack thereof, from our observations or personal experiences. Others can gain something from the give and take, whether as an example of what to do or how to do it, or what not to do or how not to do it.

Of course you can totally disregard this and continue until it escalates, to a point it doesn't need to get to, just sayin.

Carry on. :corky:
http://www-usr.rider.edu/~suler/psycyber/conflict.html

True. Nobody's way is the right way. It's just right for them, for now. Everybody bumps their head. It's how we learn...oh and there's that other way where we see someone else bump their head and resolve not to do what they did.

Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded. Apologies to any autistic members, it's just a metaphor and we don't need another argument so get over it.

[greydread]

Question:

Is a rivalry between two Vegetarians still referred to as a "Beef"?

[Mr. Smooth]

Face it MrHappy, you've been banging whores before most of us were born! :rofl:

[BrooklynBeas]

Time to make sure I still know how to open a condom wrapper before my next trip.

That's it, I've had enough! I want my money back for the fuckin Dquick T-shirt! How you gonna let me buy a jersey of one of my favorite players and then he goes and signs with another team... I feel like I have a Albert Pujols Cardinals jersey right now... I'm burning the damn shirt! lol

[dquick]

That's it, I've had enough! I want my money back for the fuckin Dquick T-shirt! How you gonna let me buy a jersey of one of my favorite players and then he goes and signs with another team... I feel like I have a Albert Pujols Cardinals jersey right now... I'm burning the damn shirt! lol

NOT SO FAST.

The last couple of days I have been texting Yaharia back and forth. She was my favorite RAW pussy, during my last Sosua trip. After hitting a girl RAW twice during my last trip, am I going to start wrapping up????

The answer will be in my July Trip report.

[Irie]

NOT SO FAST.

The last couple of days I have been texting Yaharia back and forth. She was my favorite RAW pussy, during my last Sosua trip. After hitting a girl RAW twice during my last trip, am I going to start wrapping up????

The answer will be in my July Trip report.

....the suspense is killing me........:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[MrHappy]

Face it MrHappy, you've been banging whores before most of us were born! :rofl:

I don't know how the little fella has lasted so long.

Those were the days when it didn't matter if you "hit it raw".

[TONYTNT40]

Semi-pros and those fresh in the game are my meat and potatoes when I'm in Sosua. They are what I know. And my method works perfectly with them.

I hit up Classicos every night when I'm in Sosua. Thus far I haven't had an problems finding a chica while avoiding the hardcore putas. And I don't negotiate a price with them upfront.

But let me repeat. THIS IS NOT FOR NEWBIES OR THE INEXPERIENCED.

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We back on this topic so soon? DC, I'm going to give you the same great advice you gave me, when we last discussed this topic and I was on the front lines, know your audience. You're right, it's all about selection process. You select non hard core, your chances of drama are greatly reduced, and you dont have to lead with your wallet. you pick a hardcore or crack whore, you gonna have to discuss price, and she gonna change it once you get to the room.

It's amazing that guys think, you can only play this game one way. I stopped discussing price after my 3rd year of mongering, that was 1998. This aint bragging or giving newbies the wrong impression, this is just how I do it. Been doing it for years and never had a problem. The women I pick seem to appreciate not being treated like a whore. They like it so much most will not look at the money in your presence, if they do they will not get a repeat visit. I've done this in Help Disco in Rio, Classico in Sosua, and Club Copa in Santo Domingo, with no problems.

IMHO mongering is more than fucking all the nasty ass whores you can, I have respect for my dick. Mongering is about taking advantages of opportunities to get laid, wherever you are. If all you know is, "how much," you're going to miss out on those opportunities. True story, I was eating dinner at PJ's one night and our waitress was just my type. I began to flirt and stare at her until she became nervous serving my food. I was just having fun, didnt think I was going to score. The next day I was going to the beach, and I had to walk by PJ's, the girl called me over and asked me to kick it with her in the bar because she was bar tending. She humped me on a few bachata songs, gave me her number and came to the hotel the next day. I wouldnt have been lucky if I only knew how to, say how much.

I've been traveling to Santo Domingo for over two years and I only fucked 3 whores the whole time, I'm glad I dont know how to say how much.

[Irie]

We back on this topic so soon? DC, I'm going to give you the same great advice you gave me, when we last discussed this topic and I was on the front lines, know your audience. You're right, it's all about selection process. You select non hard core, your chances of drama are greatly reduced, and you dont have to lead with your wallet. you pick a hardcore or crack whore, you gonna have to discuss price, and she gonna change it once you get to the room.

It's amazing that guys think, you can only play this game one way. I stopped discussing price after my 3rd year of mongering, that was 1998. This aint bragging or giving newbies the wrong impression, this is just how I do it. Been doing it for years and never had a problem. The women I pick seem to appreciate not being treated like a whore. They like it so much most will not look at the money in your presence, if they do they will not get a repeat visit. I've done this in Help Disco in Rio, Classico in Sosua, and Club Copa in Santo Domingo, with no problems.

IMHO mongering is more than fucking all the nasty ass whores you can, I have respect for my dick. Mongering is about taking advantages of opportunities to get laid, wherever you are. If all you know is, "how much," you're going to miss out on those opportunities. True story, I was eating dinner at PJ's one night and our waitress was just my type. I began to flirt and stare at her until she became nervous serving my food. I was just having fun, didnt think I was going to score. The next day I was going to the beach, and I had to walk by PJ's, the girl called me over and asked me to kick it with her in the bar because she was bar tending. She humped me on a few bachata songs, gave me her number and came to the hotel the next day. I wouldnt have been lucky if I only knew how to how much.

I've been traveling to Santo Domingo for over two years and I only fucked 3 whores the whole time, I'm glad I dont know how to say how much.

Short and sweet.

So many great thoughts and words to the wise layed down here.

This is the way to roll. :iconTU:

[Mr. Smooth]

NOT SO FAST.

The last couple of days I have been texting Yaharia back and forth. She was my favorite RAW pussy, during my last Sosua trip. After hitting a girl RAW twice during my last trip, am I going to start wrapping up????

The answer will be in my July Trip report.

dquick, if she is letting a bunch of other dudes "hit it raw" too, I sure as hell would wrap it up!

I'd use Reynolds Wrap, paper AND plastic, an oven mit, a catcher's mit, velcro....something!

[greydread]

Short and sweet.

So many great thoughts and words to the wise layed down here.

This is the way to roll. :iconTU:

I am finding that to be the beauty of taking longer trips. Life is good when you have time to place irons in the fire and collect them later. A good mix of Putas and not a Putas has always been my way but every once in a while, for me anyway there's nothing like spending some quality time with a serious Pro. There's no guesswork, no waiting and the good ones force me to take off a day from mongering to just enjoy the sights.

One of the 1st signs of "No Call Back" is when a Chica counts my money in front of me. At that point it stops being a gift and she starts loking like a cashier.

[Rubicon]

place irons in the fire and collect them later.

YES!!

I have always told guys that. Even if you're doing short, weekend trips, everybody stops into a place to eat, drink, buy staples for the apt/condo/hotel. You see something you like just give a smile, a short bit of conversation, and say goodbye on your way out the door. Over the course of a few trips you've established a repoire with the chica which can then be capitalized on.

Some guys seem to think they have to spend their whole trip trying to nail a particular chica and it's not worth the effort (and it isn't). BUT, if they do multiple trips, the whole weekend isn't necessary. An acknowledgement here, a smile there, will ultimately accomplish whatever they want. Inasmuch time as I spend here I still might not have enough time on a given day to get at a particular chica. But, if I think she might be worth it, I'll still take a few minutes to sow them seeds for future cultivation.