Colonial Zone row signals shift toward red light district

[DMV]

I thought there was a cracked down on street walkers, but after my last trip I did see more, just not the kind I was interested in.

Is there more to this? Can some of the guys that live there chime in? The colonial zone is a tourist destination spot, but if you are going to declare it a Redlight zone, what are you trying to say?

Article on the Dominicantoday website:
http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/tourism/2012/6/21/44120/Colonial-Zone-row-signals-shift-toward-red-light-district

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I thought there was a cracked down on street walkers, but after my last trip I did see more, just not the kind I was interested in.

Is there more to this? Can some of the guys that live there chime in? The colonial zone is a tourist destination spot, but if you are going to declare it a Redlight zone, what are you trying to say?

Article on the Dominicantoday website:
http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/tourism/2012/6/21/44120/Colonial-Zone-row-signals-shift-toward-red-light-district

They're saying: "Pimps Up, Ho's Down".

Santo Domingo and the DR in general are changing to accommodate the few political correctness seeking residents who not only don't want what we want but don't want us to have what we want. They wish to play dominoes and not be distracted with Ho's all about so they plan to corale them and put them all in the hands of the pimps.

The Government is going along because they want to remove the black market Punani trade and get their share of every single transaction, making sex no longer an agreement between two consulting Adults, but a controlled commodity which is subject to regulation and taxes.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. In 10 years Santo Domingo will become the new San Juan.

[yayow]

They're saying: "Pimps Up, Ho's Down".

Santo Domingo and the DR in general are changing to accommodate the few political correctness seeking residents who not only don't want what we want but don't want us to have what we want. They wish to play dominoes and not be distracted with Ho's all about so they plan to corale them and put them all in the hands of the pimps.

The Government is going along because they want to remove the black market Punani trade and get their share of every single transaction, making sex no longer an agreement between two consulting Adults, but a controlled commodity which is subject to regulation and taxes.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. In 10 years Santo Domingo will become the new San Juan.


IMO it won't work, yeah you are right what they are trying to do, but I can't see it happening as easy as they think, they are not going to regulate what two adults do, if in passing, they make eye contact, and come to some sort of agreement. Again just my opinion.

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IMO it won't work, yeah you are right what they are trying to do, but I can't see it happening as easy as they think, they are not going to regulate what two adults do, if in passing, they make eye contact, and come to some sort of agreement. Again just my opinion.

They'll do in the DR what they do in the States. They'll setup stings and catch a few Civil Servants or others with halfway decent jobs trying to get their swerve on with a pretty little undercover and highly publicize the ruination of those people's lives (That's how they "cleaned up" 14th St in DC) and after awhile and a few personal tragedies they'll have succeeded in changing the culture and driving all Punani seekers into their little Ho Corral and eventually they'll snuff that out too.

[yayow]

They'll do in the DR what they do in the States. They'll setup stings and catch a few Civil Servants or others with halfway decent jobs trying to get their swerve on with a pretty little undercover and highly publicize the ruination of those people's lives (That's how they "cleaned up" 14th St in DC) and after awhile and a few personal tragedies they'll have succeeded in changing the culture and driving all Punani seekers into their little Ho Corral and eventually they'll snuff that out too.

You may be right, but all I can say is we'll see, I never try and compare how they did something in the States in how they do things in the D.R., I have lived and learned about doing that.

In the D.R., I got to see it to believe it !:mad:

[DMV]

They'll do in the DR what they do in the States. They'll setup stings and catch a few Civil Servants or others with halfway decent jobs trying to get their swerve on with a pretty little undercover and highly publicize the ruination of those people's lives (That's how they "cleaned up" 14th St in DC) and after awhile and a few personal tragedies they'll have succeeded in changing the culture and driving all Punani seekers into their little Ho Corral and eventually they'll snuff that out too.


Also they rounded up all the Hos and dropped them in VA and made them walk back across the 14th street bridge.

It's going to be interesting to see this unfold. New immigration laws, new zones to "have fun". IMF telling the gov to increase the money given to the education system?

[SeaWeed]

all about money......imagine some of those permits costs were way above the standard governmental fee......lol

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Also they rounded up all the Hos and dropped them in VA and made them walk back across the 14th street bridge.

It's going to be interesting to see this unfold. New immigration laws, new zones to "have fun". IMF telling the gov to increase the money given to the education system?

Yeah and confiscated the vehicles of guys driving down the street if they were seen even speaking to a suspected Ho and had their faces plastered all over the news and their names printed in the papers. I knew one guy who tried to get a hooker in celebration of graduating from the Fire Dept. Academy, had the bad luck of propositioning an undercover Cop and lost his job before his 1st official day on it....and didn't get laid.

Interesting Times...like the ancient Chinese Curse.

[DMV]

Yeah and confiscated the vehicles of guys driving down the street if they were seen even speaking to a suspected Ho and had their faces plastered all over the news and their names printed in the papers. I knew one guy who tried to get a hooker in celebration of graduating from the Fire Dept. Academy, had the bad luck of propositioning an undercover Cop and lost his job before his 1st official day on it....and didn't get laid.

Interesting Times...like the ancient Chinese Curse.


Got one better. Cops confiscated a guy bicycle and showed it on the news. Thomas Circle

A bike, damnnnnn

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all about money......imagine some of those permits costs were way above the standard governmental fee......lol

The permit fees amount to chump change. They're after the ITBIS. 16% on every piece of ass traded in Santo Domingo and there's a whole lotta ass trading getting transacted in Santo Domingo.


...at least there used to be...

[DCIronman]

The permit fees amount to chump change. They're after the ITBIS. 16% on every piece of ass traded in Santo Domingo and there's a whole lotta ass trading getting transacted in Santo Domingo.


...at least there used to be...

I imagine that there still is. The only p4p this policy will affect is the point and click variety. But there are so many different avenues for p4p in the DR that they can't possibly try to regulate all of it without putting some extremely invasive and draconian policies into play.

I mean, the DR ain't Cuba. I agree with Yayow. It won't work.

It's just another temporary Dominican policy project. Like the curfew of '06. Most cats who just now started traveling to the DR a couple of years ago don't even remember that particular policy. And that's because most businesses have found a way to get around it. And the recent alleged "crackdown". I personally didn't even notice a change in Santiago. And even the areas that did see a change, like Sosua, are steadily getting back to business as usual.

This type of policy doesn't have any staying power in the DR. But it's interesting to watch them try again and again.

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I imagine that there still is. The only p4p this policy will affect is the point and click variety. But there are so many different avenues for p4p in the DR that they can't possibly try to regulate all of it without putting some extremely invasive and draconian policies into play.

I mean, the DR ain't Cuba. I agree with Yayow. It won't work.

It's just another temporary Dominican policy project. Like the curfew of '06. Most cats who just now started traveling to the DR a couple of years ago don't even remember that particular policy. And that's because most businesses have found a way to get around it. And the recent alleged "crackdown". I personally didn't even notice a change in Santiago. And even the areas that did see a change, like Sosua, are steadily getting back to business as usual.

This type of policy doesn't have any staying power in the DR. But it's interesting to watch them try again and again.

I really hope that you guys are right but in the case of the Capital I think that this one is being externally driven and the workarounds won't be as easy to find. Before the "curfew" restricting the hours of sale for booze it was like Dodge City and I have noticed that although Boca Chica, Andres and other surrounding areas have relaxed...waay relaxed, Santo Domingo only really has a few places that challenge the time restrictions. There also seems to be a different "feel" about Santo Domingo these days which I can't really explain. All that infrastructure development is bringing cultural changes with it and it's seeming like the poor are to be even further marginalized in accordance with the big picture planned for further development.

Somebody wants the DR's Capital City to put on a 1st World suit of clothes and they're prepared to ruffle a lot of feathers to get it done. We'll see.

[MrHappy]

And who would want to live there?

Residentes en la Zona Colonial se quejan de los ruidos de discotecas y colmadones
http://www.noticiassin.com/2012/06/residentes-en-la-zona-colonial-se-quejan-de-los-ruidos-de-discotecas-y-colmadones/

At last count, there were more than 60 colmadones, and somewhere around 30 discotecas, of which many are gay bars.

[DCIronman]

I really hope that you guys are right but in the case of the Capital I think that this one is being externally driven and the workarounds won't be as easy to find. Before the "curfew" restricting the hours of sale for booze it was like Dodge City and I have noticed that although Boca Chica, Andres and other surrounding areas have relaxed...waay relaxed, Santo Domingo only really has a few places that challenge the time restrictions. There also seems to be a different "feel" about Santo Domingo these days which I can't really explain. All that infrastructure development is bringing cultural changes with it and it's seeming like the poor are to be even further marginalized in accordance with the big picture planned for further development.

Somebody wants the DR's Capital City to put on a 1st World suit of clothes and they're prepared to ruffle a lot of feathers to get it done. We'll see.

Hmm. I guess that this is one of those ways that Santiago is different than La Capital. None of the casas in Santiago follow the time restrictions anymore. The last time I flew into STI at 3am. I hit up Illusions before I checked into my hotel. It was open and jumping.

And the only thing the curew resulted in was the emergence of a lot of secretive after hours bars that you just had to know about in order to find it. A puta at Casa Blanca told me about one that was located within one of the big cabana complexes on the autopista close to the airport called "The Bar". I used to hit that place up hard until the curfew relaxed a bit.

Let me ask the Santo Domingo vets a question. In Santiago, there are plenty of little clubs and bars where semi-pros hang out and mix in with the regular non-pro crowd. Just about any tipico bar will have semi-pros hanging about. Drinking spots like H2O, and gringo hangouts like Ahi Bar are good for semi-pro action. And of course the casinos and the clubs attached to them. Those are only a few of the spots a guy with pesos can find a semi-pro in Santiago. You really don't have to go to a casa there unless you really don't feel like putting in any effort, and you just want to grab and smash.

My question is this, are there very many spots like that in La Capital? I imagine that there are, but all I ever hear about are the casas, and street walker meeting places like Pacos. I don't know Santo Domingo very well. And I'm never there long enough to explore. What regular club or bar a guy go to listen to latin music, dance with chicas, and pick up semi-pros? These are the types of places that won't be affected by any type of policy. And in Santiago, this is where you find the quality toto.

[yayow]

There are a few, but to tell you the truth, I haven't gone to many of them lately, mostly because I now spend 90% of my time in Boca Chica. A club like you talk about where regulars and semi pros mix, and it ain't hard to figure out who is available is club Batey for one in Boca Chica, I have gotten a lot of chicas out of there, that are not the hard core putas, as a matter of fact they don't allow the hard core putas in there, it's bad for business but there are plenty of chicas who will spend some time with you for a few pesos.

In the capital as I said they are there, but I am a little out of touch there, partly because I know so many chicas there I could always make a phone call and get what I wanted. And I am not one that took a lot out of casas, cause I don't like over paying and to me unless you have an understanding with the boss of the casa you over pay when you go to those places.

The guy who actually knew all those little places off the beaten path, and used to take me to them was Prtyr2, nobody knew all the hidden places like him. I miss making the runs with him, cause he always turned me on to some places, I never knew about. :iconTU:

[BorisDaBulletDodger]

Do most of the places or clubs that you guys talking about have a dress code like pants or a collared shirt? I got the impression after reading reports that was the case but can't remember shit anymore what I read about Santo Domingo and Santiago

I kinda like the non existent dress code in Sosua and Boca Chica.

[BorisDaBulletDodger]

There are a few, but to tell you the truth, I haven't gone to many of them lately, mostly because I now spend 90% of my time in Boca Chica. A club like you talk about where regulars and semi pros mix, and it ain't hard to figure out who is available is club Batey for one in Boca Chica, I have gotten a lot of chicas out of there, that are not the hard core putas, as a matter of fact they don't allow the hard core putas in there, it's bad for business but there are plenty of chicas who will spend some time with you for a few pesos.



Yeah I noticed that when those 2 girls tried to get in with us, and the bouncer was kind of giving them a hard time. Actually he was doing me a favor since I didn't really feel like seeing her again after she touched my penis, not wifey material :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[MrHappy]

There are a few, but to tell you the truth, I haven't gone to many of them lately, mostly because I now spend 90% of my time in Boca Chica. A club like you talk about where regulars and semi pros mix, and it ain't hard to figure out who is available is club Batey for one in Boca Chica, I have gotten a lot of chicas out of there, that are not the hard core putas, as a matter of fact they don't allow the hard core putas in there, it's bad for business but there are plenty of chicas who will spend some time with you for a few pesos.

In the capital as I said they are there, but I am a little out of touch there, partly because I know so many chicas there I could always make a phone call and get what I wanted. And I am not one that took a lot out of casas, cause I don't like over paying and to me unless you have an understanding with the boss of the casa you over pay when you go to those places.

The guy who actually knew all those little places off the beaten path, and used to take me to them was Prtyr2, nobody knew all the hidden places like him. I miss making the runs with him, cause he always turned me on to some places, I never knew about. :iconTU:

You're not the only one. In our day to day, we come across soo many girls, there really isn't much reason to go out and hit casas.

For sheer numbers of girls, you can always hang out on Ave. Venezuela. You won't find many semi-pros, as you guys like to call them, but there is always girls around that would enjoy meeting you, having a few drinks, and maybe more if the chemistry is there.

There are still tons of what's called Piano bars. They usually have 10-15 girls that dress somewhat provocatively. They're there to get you to buy them drinks and generally spend money. If one of the girls takes a liking to you, there's a good possibility she'll be up to seeing you another day when she's not working, but they'll never leave the bar to go out with you. If they did, they'd lose their job.

That type of bar is very common in latin countries, and the DR is no exception.

As far as dress is concerned, the way you dress is important. Most of the places on Venezuela, San Vicente, and other strips won't let you in unless you're properly dressed, meaning long pants, closed shoes, and some even require shirts with a collar. And to be honest with you, if you're walking around in shorts and a T-shirt, you've marked yourself as a "Gringo that thinks all Dominican girls fuck," in their eyes, and most of them will ignore you. To them, it also indicates a lack of class, since you don't care about the impression you make.

[MrHappy]

And who would want to live there?

Residentes en la Zona Colonial se quejan de los ruidos de discotecas y colmadones


http://www.noticiassin.com/2012/06/residentes-en-la-zona-colonial-se-quejan-de-los-ruidos-de-discotecas-y-colmadones/

At last count, there were more than 60 colmadones, and somewhere around 30 discotecas, of which many are gay bars.


That was the ying, here's the yang.......

http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2012/6/22/44128/Noisy-Colonial-Zone-business-face-fines-shutdown

[DMV]

That was the ying, here's the yang.......

http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2012/6/22/44128/Noisy-Colonial-Zone-business-face-fines-shutdown


JA JA JA. Soooo they want to make a "Quiet, RedlightZone"? You have to love it.

A fine for this, a fine for that. I undesrtand why you live on the city limits.