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philly519
10-14-2012, 08:34 PM
http://dominicanwatchdog.org/dominican_news/page-US_man_killed_in_his_home_in_Sosua%2C_Dominican_Republic


just found this on dominicanwatchdog.com... can anyone in sosua confirm this happened? and why ?

Señor JDR of Medellin
10-14-2012, 08:42 PM
WARNING, See those killed here: Too Many Tourists & Foreign Investors Are Killed In Dominican Republic - Body Count: 21, Who Is Next? Canadian Civil War World Blogger Calls DR The World's Most Dangerous Country! (http://dominicanwatchdog.org/dominican_news/page-Too_many_tourists_killed_in_the_Dominican_Republic)

el toro
10-14-2012, 09:07 PM
The surviving victims said that the suspects were Haitian. They could very well be or he could have said that fearing retribution from the guys if they were Dominican.

sopranostingray
10-15-2012, 08:00 AM
This happened weeks ago...old news.

weyland
10-15-2012, 08:10 AM
Most crimes are blamed on Haitians. It is an easy "solve" for police statistics and keeps all the locals happy. And as El Toro says, it saves Dominicans from the dilemma of having to give evidence against other Dominicans with the strong possibility of reprisals. Think the USA in the Jim Crow days.

Also Haitians are less likely to own guns. They are expensive and ownership attracts attention whereas Dominican ownership would be more accepted.

Of course, that doesn't mean the criminals weren't Haitians. Haitians may be more desperate and reckless as they have less to lose. No doubt Haitians commit more than their share of crimes in relation to their percentage of the population, which is around 10%, but nothing like the number which the police and press attribute to them, which is more like 80%.

philly519
10-15-2012, 10:43 AM
Most crimes are blamed on Haitians. It is an easy "solve" for police statistics and keeps all the locals happy. And as El Toro says, it saves Dominicans from the dilemma of having to give evidence against other Dominicans with the strong possibility of reprisals. Think the USA in the Jim Crow days.

Also Haitians are less likely to own guns. They are expensive and ownership attracts attention whereas Dominican ownership would be more accepted.

Of course, that doesn't mean the criminals weren't Haitians. Haitians may be more desperate and reckless as they have less to lose. No doubt Haitians commit more than their share of crimes in relation to their percentage of the population, which is around 10%, but nothing like the number which the police and press attribute to them, which is more like 80%.


yea i figured that, when im in sosua and i hear about someone being arrested for a crime 9 out of 10 times the policia put the blame on a haitian, im just trying to figure out if it was a random attack or a planned and targeted attack... but you never know what really happens, since they always wright up such great police and news reports hahahaha just kidding the dr's gov n police are a joke...so that's why i ask on here see if anyone knows the real story

weyland
10-15-2012, 01:51 PM
... so that's why i ask on here see if anyone knows the real story
I have heard about dozens of these incidents (robberies, murders, kidnappings and other lurid events) in the seven years I have been coming to, and living in, the DR. The one thing I have learned for sure is we gringos never learn the real story, or at least, the whole story. For example there was a Dominican on Dominican killing in Puerto Plata a few years back that was discussed at length on DR1 and in the local papers as the motive was obscure. About two years later I found out that the killer and victim were half-brothers. That pertinent fact was certainly never mentioned in all the endless reporting and speculation at the time, though all the locals would have been aware of it.

questner
10-15-2012, 10:46 PM
Take a read:

http://www.sosuaonline.net/site/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6276:marcha-improvisada-por-la-muerte-de-wilkiman-ver-video&catid=298:regionales-a-nacionales&Itemid=561

DOMINGO 14 DE OCTUBRE DE 2012 17:26

Sosúa.- En la tarde de este sábado se registró una marcha improvisada en demanda a que se vislumbren datos sobre la muerte del reportero grafico, Wilkin Alfredo Mercado Colón, quien fuera ultimado por dos individuos, donde uno de ellos supuestamente había visitado al Coronel Ogando minutos antes y la comunidad exige que se diga que se habló entre ellos y el pueblo dice diferentes versiones que mantienen la indignación y la ira de la población.
Según una fuente más luego de la marcha, en la noche, se reunieron personalidades de Sosúa, donde hablaron sobre la muerte de Wilkin y el trato policial de parte del Coronel Ogando al caso. El General Almonte Morales creo una comisión investigadora.
Lo real del caso es que la comunidad está indignada y sufre por la muerte de un joven padre y reportero que es querido por todos aunque ya ha partido.

philly519
10-16-2012, 12:02 PM
[QUOTE=questner;1174620]Take a read:

http://www.sosuaonline.net/site/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6276:marcha-improvisada-por-la-muerte-de-wilkiman-ver-video&catid=298:regionales-a-nacionales&Itemid=561

DOMINGO 14 DE OCTUBRE DE 2012 17:26

Sosúa.- Wilkin Alfredo Mercado Colón, quien fuera ultimado por dos individuis


so this photojournalist was from sosua or killed in sosua ? and when did this happen ?

theheights718
10-16-2012, 03:10 PM
[QUOTE=questner;1174620]Take a read:

http://www.sosuaonline.net/site/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6276:marcha-improvisada-por-la-muerte-de-wilkiman-ver-video&catid=298:regionales-a-nacionales&Itemid=561

DOMINGO 14 DE OCTUBRE DE 2012 17:26

Sosúa.- Wilkin Alfredo Mercado Colón, quien fuera ultimado por dos individuis


so this photojournalist was from sosua or killed in sosua ? and when did this happen ?

Both...I believe it happened over the weekend. I seen a lot of chicas have his pic & or RIP Wilkin up on the facebook or IM. He worked at on the TV stations in Sosua.
http://youtu.be/wuUtXUQqVPw Seen him a few times at El Flow & After One. Seemed like a cool kid that just liked to party with his peeps.

philly519
10-16-2012, 03:59 PM
[QUOTE=philly519;1174720]

Both...I believe it happened over the weekend. I seen a lot of chicas have his pic & or RIP Wilkin up on the facebook or IM. He worked at on the TV stations in Sosua.
http://youtu.be/wuUtXUQqVPw Seen him a few times at El Flow & After One. Seemed like a cool kid that just liked to party with his peeps.

dam...might have to bring a bulletproof vest and a 9 for my next trip

sopranostingray
10-17-2012, 09:25 AM
[QUOTE=theheights718;1174751]

dam...might have to bring a bulletproof vest and a 9 for my next trip

He was stabbed in the chest with a machete in Charamicos, not is Sosua. This was between two Dominicans, no gringos were involved.

weyland
10-17-2012, 12:44 PM
He was stabbed in the chest with a machete in Charamicos, not is Sosua. This was between two Dominicans, no gringos were money
Charamicos is in Sosua. You mean not in El Batey. In fact Charamicos was the original township when El Batey was just a sugar plantation.

But if you mean gringos going about their lawful business in any part of Sosua are very safe, you would be quite right. If they don't get aggressive drunk, take drugs and aren't involved in some borderline business like money-lending they will be as safe as in any other holiday town round the world (except Torquay).


dam...might have to bring a bulletproof vest and a 9 for my next trip
That would make you more of a target, not less. Remember more than half the cops in the DR are in plain clothes. If you were unlucky enough to be near some situation, cops seeing a guy with a gun who is not one of their own might get nervous and decide to get their shot in first. They would know that if they shot someone carrying a gun they would be unlikely to be prosecuted or even disciplined.

philly519
10-17-2012, 01:13 PM
[QUOTE=sopranostingray;1174937]
He was stabbed in the chest with a machete in Charamicos, not is Sosua. This was between two Dominicans, no gringos were money[/quo
Charamicos is in Sosua. You mean not in El Batey. In fact Charamicos was the original township when El Batey was just a sugar plantation.

But if you mean gringos going about their lawful business in any part of Sosua are very safe, you would be quite right. If they don't get aggressive drunk, take drugs and aren't involved in some borderline business like money-lending they will be as safe as in any other holiday town round the world (except Torquay).


That would make you more of a target, not less. Remember more than half the cops in the DR are in plain clothes. If you were unlucky enough to be near some situation, cops seeing a guy with a gun who is not one of their own might get nervous and decide to get their shot in first. They would know that if they shot someone carrying a gun they would be unlikely to be prosecuted or even disciplined.


i was just kidding lmao how would i clear that stuff thru customs anyway

WickedWillie
10-17-2012, 05:45 PM
dam...might have to bring a bulletproof vest and a 9 for my next trip

You're gonna shit your pants when you read about whats going down in Sosua (La Mulatta) today. No Haitians involved though.:rofl:

snoozer
10-17-2012, 05:49 PM
You're gonna shit your pants when you read about whats going down in Sosua (La Mulatta) today. No Haitians involved though.:rofl:

Only a bunch of devil worshipers shooting it out with the cops. Just another day in paradise.

WickedWillie
10-17-2012, 05:55 PM
Only a bunch of devil worshipers shooting it out with the cops. Just another day in paradise.

Make that heavily armed devil worshippers. 3 shot cops 1 dead German.

pic taken from a neighbours house at 10 this morning.

http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=59753&d=1350510663

snoozer
10-17-2012, 06:05 PM
Make that heavily armed devil worshippers. 3 shot cops 1 dead German.

pic taken from a neighbours house at 10 this morning.

Click to see pic (http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=59753&d=1350510663)
I remember hearing about this place a few years ago. Heavily armed security guards threatening anyone who got close to the property. I recall seeing a video of a piece that the German equivalent to 60 Minutes did on this guy. This is not far from where I stay when I am in town.

deezl
10-17-2012, 06:08 PM
(roughly) translated from sosuaonline:



La Mulata, Sosua. - Early morning, left the units of the fire department to put out a fire in La Mulata, at the request of police in Sosua, it originated due to a shootout between police and foreigners, and after a fire on the same property, police reported three policemen wounded and a killed foreigner.

According to preliminary reports the case went to a German national, who allegedly shot and undertook three prosecutors and police officers who were conducting a raid,

Authorities seized an M-16, ten capsules, five cartridge espetas with zero charge, a pistol, a machine rellanadora cartridges and an armored vehicle, in addition to the closure of an indoor shooting range.

The police chief reported is still pending provide the name of the dead foreigner or of the policemen injured.

Just another day in paradise!

Irie
10-17-2012, 06:11 PM
Make that heavily armed devil worshippers. 3 shot cops 1 dead German.

pic taken from a neighbours house at 10 this morning.

Click to see pic (http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=59753&d=1350510663)

Did Robert attempt to scooter home after another late night again? :confused:

philly519
10-17-2012, 06:20 PM
You're gonna shit your pants when you read about whats going down in Sosua (La Mulatta) today. No Haitians involved though.:rofl:


as long as the chicas are still there nothing will keep me out of sosua

snoozer
10-17-2012, 07:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRuedRybJy8

Video of some of the action.

Irie
10-17-2012, 07:33 PM
as long as the chicas are still there nothing will keep me out of sosua

Not even a chica con bambino......and WU $ signs in her eyes? :rofl:

WickedWillie
10-17-2012, 07:42 PM
More pics:

http://detrasdelrumor.com/site/index.php/2012-08-08-22-36-42/regionales/1944-precaucion-imagenes-muy-fuertes


http://detrasdelrumor.com/site/index.php/2012-08-08-22-36-42/regionales/1943-policia-nacional-ocupa-pertrechos-militares-y-armas-de-guerra-en-enfrentamiento-a-tiros-con-extranjeros-mulata-3

What an arsenal these guys had....I'm jealous.:wink:

philly519
10-17-2012, 08:11 PM
More pics:

http://detrasdelrumor.com/site/index.php/2012-08-08-22-36-42/regionales/1944-precaucion-imagenes-muy-fuertes


http://detrasdelrumor.com/site/index.php/2012-08-08-22-36-42/regionales/1943-policia-nacional-ocupa-pertrechos-militares-y-armas-de-guerra-en-enfrentamiento-a-tiros-con-extranjeros-mulata-3

What an arsenal these guys had....I'm jealous.:wink:


sounds like one hell of a mourning in paradise

deezl
10-18-2012, 01:35 PM
bonkers.

A German man said to be the leader of a UFO-conspiracy theory sect was arrested after a gun battle on a Caribbean island in which another German man was killed, a German woman arrested and at least three police officers wounded.

http://www.thelocal.de/society/20121018-45629.html

WickedWillie
10-18-2012, 01:46 PM
You're gonna shit your pants when you read about whats going down in Sosua (La Mulatta) today. No Haitians involved though.:rofl:

I may have been wrong about this part. I always wondered what happened to Falandy and a few others that just disappeared:confused:

http://detrasdelrumor.com/site/index.php/2012-08-08-22-36-42/regionales/1946-no-es-cierto-que-haya-aparecido-una-nevera-con-organos-humanos-en-la-casa-del-aleman-piter-brunck


bonkers.



Yup!!!:rofl:

theheights718
10-18-2012, 02:01 PM
Geez...gotta love how graphic they get

http://youtu.be/6INfbRnMMgU

They were packing in the house

http://youtu.be/EzE_PrDwuNs

http://youtu.be/0KBadUZJOpE

deezl
10-18-2012, 02:07 PM
I may have been wrong about this part. I always wondered what happened to Falandy and a few others that just disappeared:confused:

http://detrasdelrumor.com/site/index.php/2012-08-08-22-36-42/regionales/1946-no-es-cierto-que-haya-aparecido-una-nevera-con-organos-humanos-en-la-casa-del-aleman-piter-brunck

Yup!!!:rofl:

This story just keeps getting crazier as it goes along.

I predict that when the next report comes out there will be a Yeti involved. :lol:

JD426
10-18-2012, 02:14 PM
Strangely reminiscent of WACO.. only Dominican Style.. what was that fire all about ?
Nice Cache of Weapons... I want that crossbow..LOL
Do they need Search Warrants to go in like this ? Not saying these nut jobs were normal by any stretch, but im gonna guess the cops wanted these guns for themselves, and if they had to take a couple people down, it didnt bother them too much..
Just curious if these people had ANY History of violence Before this ??
They seemed like soft targets, compared to like big time Drug Dealers and Biker gangs , no ?
I am surprised they tried to take on the cops like that, that was really stupid.. Probably all because of their Paranoia of these Govt conspiracies with the UFOS and shit..

I highly doubt any one of us would ever have crossed paths with these people. and highly unlikely they would be on Pedro C, throwing chairs at E; Flow, or shooting up Latinos..
just my .02




This story just keeps getting crazier as it goes along.

I predict that when the next report comes out there will be a Yeti involved. :lol:

The cops wanted THOSE GUNS.. thats the bottom line, and they came to TAKE them...that was the whole POINT of their raid, "illegal guns" , no ?
they probably didnt expect any resistance.... and Now , the stories will get crazier and crazier, since they had to shoot someone..\
Dominicans are some of the best CYA story tellers of all time..
but again, taking on the cops in a shootout .. Major FAIL..

snoozer
10-18-2012, 02:17 PM
These Germans were busy in their little part of paradise. So far I have read on various sites that they were:

Real Estate Sales company
Devil Worshipers
Cannibals
Members of a violent European gang
Kidnappers
Traders of body parts
UFO conspirasists
Shooting range operators
Sellers of medical equipment
Drug dealers
Arms dealers
White slavery dealers

And the woman being arrested in the video is asking the police why they are there!!!!

JD426
10-18-2012, 02:34 PM
These Germans were busy in their little part of paradise. So far I have read on various sites that they were:

Real Estate Sales company
Devil Worshipers
Cannibals
Kidnappers
Traders of body parts
UFO conspirasists
Shooting range operators
Sellers of medical equipment
Drug dealers
Arms dealers
White slavery dealers

I am sure I have missed some also.

If the authorities can get some EVIDENCE OF any that kind of activity ..
this should be Major International News......

I have a question, wouldnt most of those on that list, be a much HIGHER CRIME than just posession of Illegal Guns ?
and which crimes exactly will they be charged with.
so this sould get interesting..

philly519
10-18-2012, 02:44 PM
Geez...gotta love how graphic they get

http://youtu.be/6INfbRnMMgU

They were packing in the house

http://youtu.be/EzE_PrDwuNs

http://youtu.be/0KBadUZJOpE


crazy hopefully these organ hunters don't scare the chicas away

snoozer
10-18-2012, 02:45 PM
If the authorities can have EVIDENCE OF that kind of activity ..
this should be Major International News......

I have a question, wouldnt most of those on that list, be a much HIGHER CRIME than just posession of Illegal Guns ?
and which crimes exactly will they be charged with.
so this sould get interesting..
These are not necessarily all true but gleaned from comments and rumors posted on various boards and newsites. It is the same whenever there is a crime in Sosua.

snoozer
10-18-2012, 02:49 PM
crazy hopefully these organ hunters don't scare the chicas away
You could probably ask 10 chicas on PC about this incident and 9 out of 10 will not even of heard about it.

deezl
10-18-2012, 02:52 PM
crazy hopefully these organ hunters don't scare the chicas away

sosua chicas go organ-hunting every night, they're used to competition.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

philly519
10-18-2012, 02:58 PM
Geez...gotta love how graphic they get

http://youtu.be/6INfbRnMMgU

They were packing in the house

http://youtu.be/EzE_PrDwuNs

http://youtu.be/0KBadUZJOpE

seems like the young guy that got killed from charamicos had a lot of respect in that community. i wonder how long those cracked out looking dudes in the video last in the jails down there jajaja

deezl
10-18-2012, 03:02 PM
You could probably ask 10 chicas on PC about this incident and 9 out of 10 will not even of heard about it.

if it's been on tv - they've heard about it.

the story probably gets even more exaggerated once it hits the chica rumor mill. the devil himself may have appeared at the scene, there was a small nuclear detonation (which caused the minor earthquake that hit near Azua yesterday). dogs and cats living together... anarchy!

philly519
10-18-2012, 03:11 PM
i hope the policia don't go on a rampage of muscle flexing and lock up all the chicas since all the bullshit that's been happening this month

LJDMV
10-18-2012, 03:29 PM
Someone please translate what the hell they were saying in the small room with those 2 bad boys and what might be policia