the usa election results. please keep in mind we dont tolerate political debates

[whynotme]

the election tonight is going to impact not only the usa but canada as well as world ploitics for the next 4 years.
because of that i think we should make a 24 hour excemption about no politics here and post about the results.

but i or another mod will close the thread if anyone starts getting too personal in the replies or comments so lets try to be civil eh:wink:.

[DMV]

Whom every wins I will pop a bottle of XO I have been holding on to since 2008

[Señor JDR of Medellin]

Whom every wins I will pop a bottle of XO I have been holding on to since 2008

I think the economy will improve no matter who wins.

[whynotme]

I think the economy will improve no matter who wins.


i sure hope so as its been a downhill slope in canada and our economy is tied to yours. so if your economy keeps sliding down so will ours

i see you added a poll so i guess its ok for the thread to proceed:corky:

[SeaWeed]

I think the economy will improve no matter who wins.
wouldn't take much in the Foreclosure State.........

[Señor JDR of Medellin]

i sure hope so as its been a downhill slope in canada and our economy is tied to yours. so if your economy keeps sliding down so will ours

i see you added a poll so i guess its ok for the thread to proceed:corky:

I will be on to ten to watch it. You can keep it going. we had a great eun, all empires end sooner or later.

[Señor JDR of Medellin]

wouldn't take much in the Foreclosure State.........

Its a market correction.

[Kevy]

I am more excited about our new polymer 20 dollar bills coming out tomorrow.

They did a focus group that said they looked pornographic:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2012/05/is-canadas-new-20-bill-too-pornographic.html

[TONYTNT40]

I think the colors are off. Maybe Obama should be blue and Romney should be red?

[DCIronman]

I hope we can keep this thread open. Therefore, I'm going to keep my comments rather tame.

I bought a bottle of Glenfiddich 15yr to help keep me mellow tonight.:corky:

[Señor JDR of Medellin]

I hope we can keep this thread open. Therefore, I'm going to keep my comments rather tame.

I bought a bottle of Glenfiddich 15yr to help keep me mellow tonight.:corky:

At least until 10PM.

[whynotme]

I am more excited about our new polymer 20 dollar bills coming out tomorrow.

They did a focus group that said they looked pornographic:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2012/05/is-canadas-new-20-bill-too-pornographic.html

:rofl::rofl: i did a 400% image enhancement and still didnt see no naked tits:eek:........at least we can use the plastic money to get the real thing:corky:

[whynotme]

I hope we can keep this thread open. Therefore, I'm going to keep my comments rather tame.

I bought a bottle of Glenfiddich 15yr to help keep me mellow tonight.:corky:

i broke my 21 day no alcohol streak and cracked my duty free bottle of crown royal black:jayman:

[Kevy]

i broke my 21 day no alcohol streak and cracked my duty free bottle of crown royal black:jayman:


I might have to join you, my other bottle is empty:toast:

[Señor JDR of Medellin]

I might have to join you, my other bottle is empty:toast:

We will have a full bar in our apartment. You going to be drinking?

[Hanzo]

I voted for Romney. He seems like a G, the type of dude who gets shit done in the most fucked up way possible, I tend to support people with those traits. I also support a US invasion of Australia. Australian seem like smug SOBS to me, I'm sure Romney agrees with me. Fingers crossed!

[whynotme]

its as tight as it gets
almost 7,000,000 votes counted in florida so far at just after 9pm and its 50/50

[Señor JDR of Medellin]

its as tight as it gets
almost 7,000,000 votes counted in florida so far at just after 9pm and its 50/50

14,000,000 votes in and they say 100,000,000 will vote.

[Hunter]

its as tight as it gets
almost 7,000,000 votes counted in florida so far at just after 9pm and its 50/50

Orlando / Tampa area is going to tell the election. Looks like Seaweed is going to put Obama over the top.

If Romney loses Florida its game set match - Obama wins...

[SeaWeed]

6.7 Million Votes are in for Florida so far at this hour........and the difference is 307 votes.........
not 307,000.......or 37,000.......or 3,700......but 307 measly votes......dayum......
they won't know the results to the wee hours in the morning here in Florida......

[Kevy]

6.7 Million Votes are in for Florida so far at this hour........and the difference is 307 votes.........
not 307,000.......or 37,000.......or 3,700......but 307 measly votes......dayum......
they won't know the results to the wee hours in the morning here in Florida......


NOOOOO!!! another long drawn out recount, can't people there count?????:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[SeaWeed]

Orlando / Tampa area is going to tell the election. Looks like Seaweed is going to put Obama over the top.

If Romney loses Florida its game set match - Obama wins...
mi concur......going down to the wire too..........friggin 2000 all over again

[whynotme]

they won't know the results to the wee hours in the morning here in Florida......


i guess i will have to see the headlines in the morning for the final results if it comes down to florida again and if it takes that long which it looks like it will

[whynotme]

NOOOOO!!! another long drawn out recount, can't people there count?????:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


lets hope not as the markets will be put on hold until a winner is chosen.............. maybe i can send down my old abacus to help with the counting

[SeaWeed]

NOOOOO!!! another long drawn out recount, can't people there count?????:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

there are signs at the borders of Florida that says we take all comers.......and no IQ needed
for example we have a ton of the old, the disabled, the rednecks, the over the hill hookers and exotic dancers, the ones that can't read road signs and the ones that don't know how to fill in those circles on the ballots :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Kevy]

there are signs at the borders of Florida that says we take all comers.......
the old, the disabled, the rednecks, the over the hill hookers and exotic dancers, the ones that can't read road signs and the ones that don't know how to fill in those circles on the ballots :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


Jeb still the Governor?

[SeaWeed]

Jeb still the Governor?

nope.......Rick Scott who bought the office.......and pisses everyone off........

[whynotme]

Jeb still the Governor?

no.........

http://www.news-press.com/article/20121103/NEWS0107/311030041/0/BUSINESS/Florida-Governor-Scott-refuses-extend-early-voting-an-extra-day?odyssey=nav%7Chead

[Kevy]

nope.......Rick Scott who bought the office.......and pisses everyone off........


that is a good sign, Jeb appointed some pretty stupid people in charge there.:rofl::rofl:

[SeaWeed]

that is a good sign, Jeb appointed some pretty stupid people in charge there.:rofl::rofl:

you must be talking about his Secretary of State Katherine Harris......every time she runs for office she looses......lol

[whynotme]

Orlando / Tampa area is going to tell the election. Looks like Seaweed is going to put Obama over the top.

If Romney loses Florida its game set match - Obama wins...

it doesn't look good for romney right now
his options are running low as he looses some of the battle ground states
ne needs ohio right now to keep breathing

[DCIronman]

Since the majority of the votes yet to be tallied are coming from Broward and Miami counties (historically democratic), and with the Prez currently leading, I'd say that it's a safe bet that Florida is going to go to Obama. Which means that Romney desperately needs Ohio. And if Obama's lead holds there, Romney has very little chance of seeing the Oval Office.

Hell, if O takes Ohio and Florida, I'm taking my ass to bed with a smile on my face. To hell with the rest of the "battle states".:corky:

[greydread]

All the back doors are closing on Romney. He's pretty nuch got to sweep OH/ FL/ VA. He's losing NH/ IA/ MN. Not looking good for him and the GOP not only won't dent the Senate Democratic majority but will most likely lose another seat.

[GrandePadre]

Presidential election don't matter, especially with the GOP keeping the house. Nothing will get done because they have no incentive to cooperate with him. If Obama wins say hello to another stagnant four years.

[GrandePadre]

All the back doors are closing on Romney. He's pretty nuch got to sweep OH/ FL/ VA. He's losing NH/ IA/ MN. Not looking good for him and the GOP not only won't dent the Senate Democratic majority but will most likely lose another seat.

That's pretty much the only way for him. As long as the GOP has 40 in the Senate plus the house...nothing will change.

[DMV]

That's pretty much the only way for him. As long as the GOP has 40 in the Senate plus the house...nothing will change.

I hope The GOP will put down their weapons and work together for the good of the country and not party. They don't have to worry about him running again, so give it up

[ebl1702399]

I think the economy will improve no matter who wins.

Yes I agree. If you have a degree in "women's studies", neither Obama nor Romney can get you a job.

[DMV]

Congrats to Elizabeth Warren, I'm mean Senator Warren!!!!!!

[GrandePadre]

I hope The GOP will put down their weapons and work together for the good of the country and not party. They don't have to worry about him running again, so give it up

Honestly, I hope they stop him from doing to much. The less the Federal Govt does the better.

[greydread]

FL= 90% reporting

Obama - 49.9%

Romney - 49%


Tighter than Dick's hatband!

[DMV]

Honestly, I hope they stop him from doing to much. The less the Federal Govt does the better.

Tell that to the people in New Jersey.

[GrandePadre]

Tell that to the people in New Jersey.

Dont' want to get into a major political debate in this thread DMV.

[DMV]

Dont' want to get into a major political debate in this thread DMV.

Then don't start one

[SeaWeed]

Florida with 91% of the voting and almost 8 million votes in...there is only 16,000 votes separating them...too close to call for sure

[DCIronman]

Hmm. I believe that the fat lady is warming up gentleman.:rolleyes:

[DCIronman]

Ohio to Obama. It's over folks.

Goodnight!:corky:

[DMV]

DAMNNNNN This XO taste Good!!!!!

[knotty]

Looks like Obama has won once again. The race is over.

[curiousdude]

I hope The GOP will put down their weapons and work together for the good of the country and not party. They don't have to worry about him running again, so give it up
If only O could put down the Commander-in-Chief's big weapons, and not start any more new wars, and end the ones we're fighting now, as he has by and large actually fulfilled most of the 2008 campaign promises......of McCain:rofl::rofl:...Maybe during the next four years, he can fulfill his own promises of 2008....and finally be a moderately liberal Democrat after all, rather than the compassionate conservative (as Richard Dreyfuss has rightly called him) he has been during his first term. Then Obama would truly be a bipartisan president - one term Republican, and one Democratic. ;)

[SrSuerte]

Presidential election don't matter, especially with the GOP keeping the house. Nothing will get done because they have no incentive to cooperate with him. If Obama wins say hello to another stagnant four years.

Some of them are up for a vote in two years in the Senate and all of them in the House.


If only O could put down the Commander-in-Chief's big weapons, and not start any more new wars, and end the ones we're fighting now, as he has by and large actually fulfilled most of the 2008 campaign promises......of McCain:rofl::rofl:...Maybe during the next four years, he can fulfill his own promises of 2008....and finally be a moderately liberal Democrat after all, rather than the compassionate conservative (as Richard Dreyfuss has rightly called him) he has been during his first term. Then Obama would truly be a bipartisan president - one term Republican, and one Democratic. ;)


:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Mr. Smooth]

Saw the popular vote totals as of 11:30pm PST and Obama and Romney were separated by about 700,000 votes nationwide out of over 106,000,000 that had been tallied. But Obama got the battleground states to get the electoral votes needed to claim victory. But as it was so close, he can't claim a mandate.

Half the nation is happy and half is pissed. The Senate stays Democrat and the House stays Republican. Kind of like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Maybe we are two Americas.

[princepointe]

Hmmmm a political thread where you can't talk about politics. Isn't this like a whore house where you can't fuck the whores? lol

[whynotme]

Hmmmm a political thread where you can't talk about politics. Isn't this like a whore house where you can't fuck the whores? lol


its a political thread where we can discuss the results and not the players or the partys

thats a big difference:corky:


i have been in many whore houses where i can't fuck the whores as my dick just couldnt get around there fat ugly asses and rise to the occassion:rofl:

[whynotme]

i would like to thank everyone for keeping personal opinions/preferances out of the thread and look at the results and how they will affect our lifes in the next 4 years:corky:

[Hunter]

Republicans lost it from losing the hispanic and women vote. If they cant figure out how to get those 2 back next election they will lose again...:icontd:

the countrys changing demographics is happening fast. latinos are only getting bigger and bigger power.

[curiousdude]

Republicans lost it from losing the hispanic and women vote. If they cant figure out how to get those 2 back next election they will lose again...:icontd:

the countrys changing demographics is happening fast. latinos are only getting bigger and bigger power.
Well, they never had either one of those demographic groups, so they wouldn't be getting them back exactly. But yes, the R's have lost even more of their appeal to those two groups, and would need to expand their base somewhat in one or both of those groups, and perhaps with young people as well, if they hope to win next time. On the other hand, they continue to solidify their hold on three constituencies that make up their base of support - the three R's of the rich, retirees, and ____ (I can't say the third one here, but it's a compound word that begins with red;) :rofl::rofl:)*

*Note: No political opinion whatsoever is intended to be expressed here. If you feel that you nonetheless find one present, please ignore it.;)

[el_papi_chew_low]

I'm just glad all the voter suppression attempts didn't affect the outcome, although reducing the early voting period in Florida has obviously had an affect down here. If things were hanging in the balance and we were waiting for Florida like during Gore vs Bush, we might be in trouble.

[Dave Diaz]

Marijuana just got legalized in the States of Washington and Colorado with Amendment 64. Now we don't have to go to Canada and Amsterdam :corky:

Oh yea and Obama won too. :surprised:

[JuanElGriego]

Hmmmm a political thread where you can't talk about politics. Isn't this like a whore house where you can't fuck the whores? lol

Or like a private party for whoreboard members where pics are frowned upon. :rofl:

[uncle ruckus]

Saw the popular vote totals as of 11:30pm PST and Obama and Romney were separated by about 700,000 votes nationwide out of over 106,000,000 that had been tallied. But Obama got the battleground states to get the electoral votes needed to claim victory. But as it was so close, he can't claim a mandate.

Half the nation is happy and half is pissed. The Senate stays Democrat and the House stays Republican. Kind of like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Maybe we are two Americas.

Smooth, you know I love you man, but I gotta laugh at all these pundits saying that Obama doesn't have a mandate.

The system is based on Electoral Votes. The man needed 270 and it looks like he's going to get 332. 332 Electoral Votes sure seems like a mandate to me. If you tell me he won by less than 300 (for example I had him at 290 max), then I can give credibility to that argument. But saying that, yeah he won, but he doesn't have a mandate because the popular vote is close is not a credible argument in my view.

In any case, the projections after California, Washington, and Oregon are done counting is that Obama will have around a 2% Popular Vote win. In 2004, Bush used the same popular vote margin and a much lesser EV margin to declare an "overwhelming mandate". The mandate talk is always intelligently used by the right wing. When they win, they have it. When they lose, the other guy doesn't have it. Unfortunately the Democrats haven't learned to adopt that language yet.

[knotty]

Republicans lost it from losing the hispanic and women vote. If they cant figure out how to get those 2 back next election they will lose again...:icontd:

the countrys changing demographics is happening fast. latinos are only getting bigger and bigger power.
*** Obama's demographic edge: Yes, the auto bailout mattered in Ohio. Sure, Hurricane Sandy helped the president. And, yes, the economy was the No. 1 issue. But make no mistake: What happened last night was a demographic time bomb that had been ticking and that blew up in GOP faces. As the Obama campaign had assumed more than a year ago, the white portion of the electorate dropped to 72%, and the president won just 39% of that vote. But he carried a whopping 93% of black voters (representing 13% of the electorate), 71% of Latinos (representing 10%), and also 73% of Asians (3%). What’s more, despite all the predictions that youth turnout would be down, voters 18-29 made up 19% of last night’s voting population -- up from 18% four years ago -- and President Obama took 60% from that group. The trend also played out in the key battleground states: The president won about 70% of the Latino vote in Colorado and Nevada, and he won 60% of it in Florida (a high number given the state’s large GOP-leaning Cuban-American population). On Monday, we wrote that demography could determine destiny. And that’s exactly what happened. While the campaign’s turnout operation deserves all the credit for getting these voters to the polls, the most significant event of this presidential contest might very well have been the 2010 census.

*** And the GOP’s demographic dilemma: Obama’s demographic edge creates this dilemma for the Republican Party: It can no longer rely on white voters to win national elections anymore, especially in presidential cycles. Indeed, according to the exit poll, 89% of all votes Mitt Romney won last night came from whites (compared with 56% for Obama). So the Republicans are maximizing their share with white voters; they just aren’t getting the rest. And come 2016, the white portion of the electorate will probably drop another couple of points to 70%. Politico’s Martin (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83472.html?hp=t3_3) puts it this way: “Battling a wheezing economy and a deeply motivated opposition, Obama still managed to retain much of his 2008 map because of the GOP’s deficiencies with the voters who are changing the political face of once conservative-leaning Virginia, Florida, Colorado and Nevada. Republicans face a crisis: the country is growing less white and their coalition has become more white in recent years. In 2004, George W. Bush won [about 40 percent] of Hispanics. Four years later, John McCain, the author of an immigration reform bill, took 31 percent of Hispanics. And this year, Romney captured only 27 percent of Hispanics.”

[weyland]

... he won 60% of it in Florida (a high number given the state’s large GOP-leaning Cuban-American population).
That preference for the GOP is an older generation thing and fading fast, Young Cuban Americans vote much the same as other Latinos.

And you didn't mention that there will be 3 million new Puerto Rican voters at the next election. They are likely to strongly favor the Democratic Party.

Reagan said "Latinos are Republicans, they just don't know it yet". I guess he was about as good a pundit as he was an actor.

[JuanElGriego]

Problem for the Republican party is to appeal to this ever-changing national demographic you have to be a more moderate Republican but if you stray too far from the right in the hopes of appealing to them you might not even make it out of the primary. Romney ran as a rather moderate Repub but many Republican voters held their noses while voting for him in the primaries and did so mainly due to the lack of other serious choices available to them (Newt Gingrich lol).

Democrats running in their primaries don't have to kiss the asses of the crazies in their own party to get the nomination so they don't have go on record with things that will be held against them by moderate voters across the country in the National Elections.

[knotty]

That preference for the GOP is an older generation thing and fading fast, Young Cuban Americans vote much the same as other Latinos.

And you didn't mention that there will be 3 million new Puerto Rican voters at the next election. They are likely to strongly favor the Democratic Party.

Reagan said "Latinos are Republicans, they just don't know it yet". I guess he was about as good a pundit as he was an actor.
it was not me that was mentioning it. it was copied from msnbc. forgot to add the link as i usually do.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/07/14993875-first-thoughts-obamas-demographic-edge?lite

[Mr. Smooth]

Smooth, you know I love you man, but I gotta laugh at all these pundits saying that Obama doesn't have a mandate.

The system is based on Electoral Votes. The man needed 270 and it looks like he's going to get 332. 332 Electoral Votes sure seems like a mandate to me. If you tell me he won by less than 300 (for example I had him at 290 max), then I can give credibility to that argument. But saying that, yeah he won, but he doesn't have a mandate because the popular vote is close is not a credible argument in my view.

In any case, the projections after California, Washington, and Oregon are done counting is that Obama will have around a 2% Popular Vote win. In 2004, Bush used the same popular vote margin and a much lesser EV margin to declare an "overwhelming mandate". The mandate talk is always intelligently used by the right wing. When they win, they have it. When they lose, the other guy doesn't have it. Unfortunately the Democrats haven't learned to adopt that language yet.

Uncle Ruckus, if there was anyone who I felt would respond to my post, I figured it would be you! :corky: As I wrote, that was at roughly 11:30 pm on the west coast. More returns were still coming in. Obama led Romney by 600,000 vote out here in California, which made up the majority of his popular vote lead. It will be several more days until the final talley comes in but the numbers don't lie, we are divided as a nation politically.

The changing demographics of America will most likely keep it that way. Pat Buchanan wrote a column not too long ago pointing out that fact. The problem though is the entitlement mentality of so many people. More people today get some form of government assistance then ever before. And that all comes from the tax payer. I am curious though about the reaction to everyone getting a smaller take home pay come 2013. The Bush tax cuts will expire at the end of the year and we all go back to paying the tax rates when Clinton was in office. The idea that only those making $250K a year or more will pay more taxes is false. We ALL will pay more.

Love you to UR. :corky:

[DMV]

What will the future be for these two in the GOP:

Gov. Christopher J. Christie... Didn't help Romney in the last days, but I give him big props. People needed help and you take any that will come your way.

Did that kill his chances of ever running for president or will he be a star in the "NEW GOP"

Michael Steele... Once the head of the RNC, helped the GOP retake the House, but was dismissed and replaced with Reince Priebus:rolleyes:

He has remained steadfast to the GOP and will he also become a start in the "NEW GOP"

[Señor JDR of Medellin]

This has run its course. Great discussion.