12/2013 - Tradewinds Robbery?

[SrSuerte]

Apparently there was a robbery. I will write more when I land in Miami.

[el_papi_chew_low]

Apparently there was a robbery. I will write more when I land in Miami. Is this the one where they supposedly got $5,000 in cash?

[Shogun Warrior]

This is a cut and paste from another board:

"Rick from Rockys says a guest was robbed at gunpoint at Tradewinds. The chica went to the bathroom and fed he keys to her accomplices. They let themselves in and robbed him of a lot of stuff. They made him open his safe. Hey supposedly got $5000 in cash. Phone with pics of the chica. Watches you name it, they got it. They made him strip. Put a gun to his head. She left with them. Chica supposedly worked at some rest on the playa. Rick wasn't sure which one. Nor did he have a description of the chica."

Rick can you give us the "Rest of the Story" here??

[Jimmydr]

This is a cut and paste from another board:
Hey supposedly got $5000 in cash.
Rick can you give us the "Rest of the Story" here??

He had $5,000 in a safe?

[Apos]

Am I the only one that locks the keys in the safe when with a chica?

Hard for her to throw them out the bathroom window if she can't access them...

[Jimmydr]

Am I the only one that locks the keys in the safe when with a chica?

Hard for her to throw them out the bathroom window if she can't access them...

I lock up everything in the safe.


Then they may have knocked on door?

[Apos]

Pretty sure Rick's condos at Tradewinds have an exterior bar door that also locks and requires a key to open....which would be in my safe...

:D


I lock up everything in the safe.


Then they may have knocked on door?

[Irie]

Pretty sure Rick's condos at Tradewinds have an exterior bar door that also locks and requires a key to open....which would be in my safe...

:D


It's an iron gate with a big ole pad lock on it.

[Jimmydr]

Pretty sure Rick's condos at Tradewinds have an exterior bar door that also locks and requires a key to open....which would be in my safe...

:D

Well there is always more to it but is this an ISOC guy?

[Hunter]

This is why ATM cards make sense....

[Jimmydr]

This is why ATM cards make sense....

But they charge you $3 and its easier to get your $5,000 back.:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[SrSuerte]

Is this the one where they supposedly got $5,000 in cash?

Yes. I just got into Miami not to long ago. This is the story.

[JD426]

Sorry to hear this happened to the guy but how did the chica even know THIS was the guy with so much LOOT in his safe ?? Thats a lot of cash to have in a Sosua Hotel Safe , no ?.
Somebody had to be talking , cuz she took a hell of a chance, especially if she works in a Restaurant on the beach ? somebody is gonna know who she is , but she knew the payoff would be there so it was worth it for her. Wonder what her CUT was, especially if there were accomplices ( plural).

Either he bragged about $ , or the chica saw it when he opened the safe ? , and then called her Chulo, and so on and so on...
I wonder where this guy slipped, but imo he definitely SLIPPED somewhere.. cause that would be a hell of a lucky guess for a stupid chica, especially calling in accomplices and all.
Hope they catch them..

[Jimmydr]

Sorry to hear this happened to the guy but how did the chica even know THIS was the guy with so much LOOT in his safe ?? Thats a lot of cash to have in a Sosua Hotel Safe , no ?.
Somebody had to be talking , cuz she took a hell of a chance, especially if she works in a Restaurant on the beach ? somebody is gonna know who she is , but she knew the payoff would be there so it was worth it for her. Wonder what her CUT was, especially if there were accomplices ( plural).



We been down this road before.

[wreckless]

I am in Sousa as I type this. The safe in my room is opened with a key, which is attached to the keys to the apartment and fob key which gives access into the complex. I can see how this robbery could take place. Only difference is that I have a watchmen a few metres from my door, the complex has CCTV installed and that I am paranoid about chicas stealing my shit or gaining access to my keys.

[Jimmydr]

I was using Paypal to take out cash until they banned me. Now I use Schaab which is even better. No reason to have tons of cash when you carry two or three bank cards.

[Meyer Lansky]

I am in Sousa as I type this. The safe in my room is opened with a key, which is attached to the keys to the apartment and fob key which gives access into the complex. I can see how this robbery could take place. Only difference is that I have a watchmen a few metres from my door, the complex has CCTV installed and that I am paranoid about chicas stealing my shit or gaining access to my keys.

Buy a jar of mayonaise & a can of white spray paint, empty out the mayo, spray paint the inside of the jar, and you have yourself a place for your keys.
Just hope your chica does not make a sandwich when you are pissing!

[No Worries]

I didnt know that Rick owned Tradewinds. I hate saying this, but if it happened the way it was described, then it looks like an inside job!

The guards know who lives /stays there and who doesn't. Two dominican guys going to an apartment and leave a few minutes later with a bag full of loot in one hand and a shotgun in the other and security doesn't stop them? Yeah, he was in on it!


This scenario makes me thing of the Robert Di Nero scene in Casino where he fired the floor manager when someone scammed the slot machines! "Either your in on it, or your too fucking dumb to work here!"


http://youtu.be/CIpRvBQ-dOU

[TNT72]

Rick owns just a couple condos at Tradewinds, not the whole complex. If it was one of Ricks condos, the safe is a combo safe, not a key lock safe.

As far as the security guard goes, there is one for the entire complex. He can't cover the entire property.


Plus, if he was out for one of his siestas, how the hell was he suppose to see them????:wink:



Come on, we all know that the security guards aren't going to put their life in danger, to stop some armed robbers. They don't get paid near enough for that shit. Plus, they are all probably working 2 or 3 jobs. I have caught a ton of security guards sleeping.

[ROVER]

Sorry for this guy whoever he is, no way to spend your vacation.

We can only hope that if he reports this that the police will not put him in jail. :dontknow:

[hugrad95a]

We should take pictures of all the chicas that we bring back to our hotels as safety precautions. Use your phone to email it or up load to the cloud in case they steal your phone.

[Sidney]

He is not an ISOC member, but a good friend to many of us. Clearly it was a set-up, on their 4th meeting. The safe was not a combo safe. He was tied up and beaten. Told he would die unless he opened, with gun at his head and a knife at his throat !!:mad::mad: He is lucky to be alive.:mad::mad: We believe the the name she used is Jonny.

[el_papi_chew_low]

Buy a jar of mayonaise & a can of white spray paint, empty out the mayo, spray paint the inside of the jar, and you have yourself a place for your keys.
Just hope your chica does not make a sandwich when you are pissing! You can skip all of that and just hide you money in book. If you've seen how most Sosua chicas text, you know a book is like kryptonite to a Sosua chica.

[SrSuerte]

He is not an ISOC member, but a good friend to many of us. Clearly it was a set-up, on their 4th meeting. The safe was not a combo safe. He was tied up and beaten. Told he would die unless he opened, with gun at his head and a knife at his throat !!:mad::mad: He is lucky to be alive.:mad::mad: We believe the the me she usded is Jonny.

I felt that it had to be someone that he spent time with. I really want to see what she looks like if that becomes available. It's good that he made it out alive. I hope she slipped up and gave him some details that he can use to find her.

[Jimmydr]

He is not an ISOC member, but a good friend to many of us. Clearly it was a set-up, on their 4th meeting. The safe was not a combo safe. He was tied up and beaten. Told he would die unless he opened, with gun at his head and a knife at his throat !!:mad::mad: He is lucky to be alive.:mad::mad: We believe the the me she usded is Jonny.

A good friend of who?

[Jimmydr]

Sorry for this guy whoever he is, no way to spend your vacation.

We can only hope that if he reports this that the police will not put him in jail. :dontknow:

I don't believe they like having tourists robbed at gun point. Its bad for business.

[weyland]

You can skip all of that and just hide your money in book. If you've seen how most Sosua chicas text, you know a book is like kryptonite to a Sosua chica.
Like kryptonite to most ISOC members too, so they are unlikely to have one around. Outside chance of a Kindle but you cannot hide cash in that.

[Dafishguy]

Gentlemen,

Let me post what really happened to stop the speculation. I emailed this to a member last night who is staying with me at Trade Winds in January and was obviously nervious as to what actually happened. I was there 5 minutes after getting the call.

Yes, it was apartment 44. What happened was the guy got comfortable
with a girl he was with for 4 days and did not do what I always
recommend people do when staying at Trade Winds and that is to lock
your keys in the safe whenever you have a guest in the room. He did
not do that and when he was distracted she opened the metal gate and
let the thieves into the apartment. This could not have happened IF he
had continued to follow my advice and locked the keys in the safe as
recommended. I know you are smarter than that my friend and you are with a
long time girl that is sweet and respectable. Crimes here, especially this time of year are crimes of opportunity and he gave her every opportunity. He is back at Trade
Winds and you will get a chance to get the story from him. He is
staying until at least mid January and will be there when you are."

Let me know if you have any further questions my friend

Take care,

Rick

All our properties have digital electronic safes. That is why I say, lock your keys away when you have a strange person in your secured apartment. This right here is exactly why I tell people to do that. If you don't follow the advice I give you and this happens, then I ask... WHO is to blame here and yes, Trade Winds has two security guards working at night. Apperantly, one of the armed robbers had one of them on the ground at gun point and the other was on the other side of the complex.

Let me know if any of you have any questions.

Rick

[JD426]

You can skip all of that and just hide you money in book. If you've seen how most Sosua chicas text, you know a book is like kryptonite to a Sosua chica.

A little Humor in an otherwise sad and a little scary subject thread...

is Always appreciated..
LOL

[Jao]

Gentlemen,

Let me post what really happened to stop the speculation. I emailed this to a member last night who is staying with me at Trade Winds in January and was obviously nervious as to what actually happened. I was there 5 minutes after getting the call.

Yes, it was apartment 44. What happened was the guy got comfortable
with a girl he was with for 4 days and did not do what I always
recommend people do when staying at Trade Winds and that is to lock
your keys in the safe whenever you have a guest in the room. He did
not do that and when he was distracted she opened the metal gate and
let the thieves into the apartment. This could not have happened IF he
had continued to follow my advice and locked the keys in the safe as
recommended. I know you are smarter than that my friend and you are with a
long time girl that is sweet and respectable. Crimes here, especially this time of year are crimes of opportunity and he gave her every opportunity. He is back at Trade
Winds and you will get a chance to get the story from him. He is
staying until at least mid January and will be there when you are."

Let me know if you have any further questions my friend

Take care,

Rick

All our properties have digital electronic safes. That is why I say, lock your keys away when you have a strange person in your secured apartment. This right here is exactly why I tell people to do that. If you don't follow the advice I give you and this happens, then I ask... WHO is to blame here and yes, Trade Winds has two security guards working at night. Apperantly, one of the armed robbers had one of them on the ground at gun point and the other was on the other side of the complex.

Let me know if any of you have any questions.

Rick

I had great times at the Tradewinds, sometimes using the pool at 4AM or 5AM. Photos from years ago. Hope Marco is well, always a great guy.

[huskerdude]

Thanks for the update Rick! We all need to be more cautious not only the DR, when visiting anywhere, even in the states.

[praguealchemist]

Gentlemen,

Let me post what really happened to stop the speculation. I emailed this to a member last night who is staying with me at Trade Winds in January and was obviously nervious as to what actually happened. I was there 5 minutes after getting the call.

Yes, it was apartment 44. What happened was the guy got comfortable
with a girl he was with for 4 days and did not do what I always
recommend people do when staying at Trade Winds and that is to lock
your keys in the safe whenever you have a guest in the room. He did
not do that and when he was distracted she opened the metal gate and
let the thieves into the apartment. This could not have happened IF he
had continued to follow my advice and locked the keys in the safe as
recommended. I know you are smarter than that my friend and you are with a
long time girl that is sweet and respectable. Crimes here, especially this time of year are crimes of opportunity and he gave her every opportunity. He is back at Trade
Winds and you will get a chance to get the story from him. He is
staying until at least mid January and will be there when you are."

Let me know if you have any further questions my friend

Take care,

Rick

All our properties have digital electronic safes. That is why I say, lock your keys away when you have a strange person in your secured apartment. This right here is exactly why I tell people to do that. If you don't follow the advice I give you and this happens, then I ask... WHO is to blame here and yes, Trade Winds has two security guards working at night. Apparantly, one of the armed robbers had one of them on the ground at gun point and the other was on the other side of the complex.

Let me know if any of you have any questions.

Rick

We all need to be diligent and aware of our surroundings. We also need to demand better security measures from local security companies and police authorities. Why are security companies in the sosua area hired when their personnel are frankly useless in a situation such as the tradewinds robbery? My background is military security related and I can tell you some very simple changes in modus operandi by the private security companies used would have prevented or at least severely hampered/identified the chica in the robbery at tradewinds.
1. Demand cedulas or passports in the case of some haitianas in sosua before allowing entry and keeping them secured within a secured booth/enclosed area where one guard is stationed armed.
2. supply both guards with a radio/walkie talkie with call signs that are only known to the guards and exchanged every five minutes. keeps them from sleeping on duty and if a callsign is not returned correctly to the receiving guard he knows the shit hit the fan and he needs to call for backup immediately.
3. private security companies need to maintain regular liaison with local police and establish emergency numbers for their guards to call when a false callsign is received for rapid response.
4. the cost for the above improvements is minimal and it is just a start, but I believe with the aforementioned changes it would have prevented or at least severely hampered the robbery attempt at the tradewinds.

[questner]

Keys did not matter in my view. It looks like a planned robbery at gun point when she knew a prize she might get ahead of time. Nothing to do with gates. The story as we hear is not complete. :exclaim1:

Unless one is up to a specific cash transaction :exclaim1: there is very little sense in keeping that high amount of cash at hand and is even dangerous.

Buy a simple robbery/theft insurance, it covers stuff up to $1,500 in total up to $500 per item. Cash is not covered. Take a police report and file a claim. Again, buy AMEX TC in lieu of cash.

[praguealchemist]

You can skip all of that and just hide you money in book. If you've seen how most Sosua chicas text, you know a book is like kryptonite to a Sosua chica.

Guys I would never use a book. I keep a book on the nighstand next to my bed and many of my chicas flipped through the pages looking through the book. Dont know why since the book was in english, but the chicas are curious. Just because they might not have the best reading skills or interest in reading does not mean they dont like checking things out strictly from curiosity. I have a dresser with mirror and keep some stuff on the dresser like massage lotions and energy shots and believe me the chicas check it all out and I know this since they ask me what eight hour energy shots are. The bottles are small but they sure dont miss seeing them. be aware of your surroundings because your chicas sure are.

[Citynights]

Keys did not matter in my view. It looks like a planned robbery at gun point when she knew a prize she might get ahead of time. Nothing to do with gates. The story as we hear is not complete. :exclaim1:

Unless one is up to a specific cash transaction :exclaim1: there is very little sense in keeping that high amount of cash at hand and is even dangerous.

Buy a simple robbery/theft insurance, it covers stuff up to $1,500 in total up to $500 per item. Cash is not covered. Take a police report and file a claim. Again, buy AMEX TC in lieu of cash.

We are talking about a guy that comes down a lot & stays for a long time...he has always followed the advice & locked his key in the safe....this was the only time that

he got lazy & left the key on the table.... also the chica might know since he is down a lot he may have money in the safe plus she was also with him for 4

days....waited for him to take a shower & phone or text her chulo to rob him...I am staying at the Mary Rose where the girls have to leave their IDs...

[deezl]

We are talking about a guy that comes down a lot & stays for a long time...he has always followed the advice & locked his key in the safe....this was the only time that

he got lazy & left the key on the table.... also the chica might know since he is down a lot he may have money in the safe plus she was also with him for 4

days....waited for him to take a shower & phone or text her culo to rob him...I am staying at the Mary Rose where the girls have to leave their IDs...

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Hunter]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

how do you text your own ass :rofl:

[questner]

OK Citynights has summed it up. Would like to see her name and picture plastered.

[JD426]

OK Citynights has summed it up. Would like to see her name and picture plastered.

IMO. There is a lot more to this story.. I doubt pics will be forthcoming, but sure would also love to see who the Thieving Puta is.
But, Chicas just dont call Chulos with GUNS to come and Rob you, and put a knife to your throat... unless they got a really really good reason .
But everyone else just seems to think
" IF the dude had just listened, and just locked his keys in the safe every night , NONE of this would have happened "
Really ?

Like the chica is just watching Cartoons and then was like

" Oh , would you look at that , His keys are laying on the table and he is in the shower
let me call some chulos with guns to rob this guy , right now... "

just not buying it...
Maybe the whole story is not being told so they can grab her, who knows.
Good advice was given by all, not knocking that, but this chica was on a mission.

Something really motivated her to do this.. and it was NOT just the keys LAYING on the table..

or did I read it all wrong ? maybe. who knows.

[hugrad95a]

Sounds like she knew he had money.

[dquick]

I have been in DR for almost two weeks now. This is the second story of a gringo getting robbed during this period. The other story did not have guns involved, but a guy let his guard down.

DO NOT THINK THIS CANNOT HAPPEN TO YOU!!!

Most stories like this don't get posted. Take this as a warning and be cautious, or you will become the next victim.

[The Sage]

Heed this advice. Lots of desperate people on the island. Best to keep your wits about you. Unfortunately this means you have to reel in some of that crazy I don't give a damn I'm on vacation partying, but in the long run it's in your best interest not to completely let your guard down and leave your safety completly to the whim of people you don't really know.



I have been in DR for almost two weeks now. This is the second story of a gringo getting robbed during this period. The other story did not have guns involved, but a guy let his guard down.

DO NOT THINK THIS CANNOT HAPPEN TO YOU!!!

Most stories like this don't get posted. Take this as a warning and be cautious, or you will become the next victim.

[Majicman]

how do you text your own ass :rofl:

However she did it, it looks like it responded! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Majicman]

I grew up around some of the biggest kingpins in DC and I have to say that my hood sense is beyond tingling. This story has that shit at "shine the batman spotlight" levels! There seems to be ALOT missing from this story as to be expected. Whats in question:

Monger with LARGE sum of cash all in one place. No normal everyday type dude I know carries that kind of cash for safety reasons alone unless there is a specific transaction or two requiring that planned in the very near future.
Monger met this chica somewhere so she is accessible like others and could be seen/found at some point.
This wasn't your garden variety petty snatch and grab like some of the chicas will try to pull where the items are small and wont be missed right away


There are PLENTY of other questions that I could spend the rest of the day typing but again that's all to say, I don't think this was juat a crime of opportunity. It seems there is alot more to this than is being told and if my intuition is right, never will be told for mafia type reasons. Just my 2 pesos.

[Jimmydr]

I grew up around some of the biggest kingpins in DC and I have to say that my hood sense is beyond tingling. This story has that shit at "shine the batman spotlight" levels! There seems to be ALOT missing from this story as to be expected. Whats in question:

Monger with LARGE sum of cash all in one place. No normal everyday type dude I know carries that kind of cash for safety reasons alone unless there is a specific transaction or two requiring that planned in the very near future.
Monger met this chica somewhere so she is accessible like others and could be seen/found at some point.
This wasn't your garden variety petty snatch and grab like some of the chicas will try to pull where the items are small and wont be missed right away


There are PLENTY of other questions that I could spend the rest of the day typing but again that's all to say, I don't think this was juat a crime of opportunity. It seems there is alot more to this than is being told and if my intuition is right, never will be told for mafia type reasons. Just my 2 pesos.

We all have questions. Break into my safe and there is between $100 and $400 at most.

[JD426]

I grew up around some of the biggest kingpins in DC and I have to say that my hood sense is beyond tingling. This story has that shit at "shine the batman spotlight" levels! There seems to be ALOT missing from this story as to be expected. Whats in question:

Monger with LARGE sum of cash all in one place. No normal everyday type dude I know carries that kind of cash for safety reasons alone unless there is a specific transaction or two requiring that planned in the very near future.
Monger met this chica somewhere so she is accessible like others and could be seen/found at some point.
This wasn't your garden variety petty snatch and grab like some of the chicas will try to pull where the items are small and wont be missed right away


There are PLENTY of other questions that I could spend the rest of the day typing but again that's all to say, I don't think this was juat a crime of opportunity. It seems there is alot more to this than is being told and if my intuition is right, never will be told for mafia type reasons. Just my 2 pesos.

I dont even want to highlight which Part I agree with the MOST, but I agree with ALL of it... I'm on your same page like 100%.
(glad to see someone else here is , so i dont think im totally crazy ) .


and so i wont even ask any more questions about this.. nor do i want the answers...

this dude was not "just like one of us" just drinking and chilling with the whores..

sorry, no sale..

[whynotme]

We all have questions. Break into my safe and there is between $100 and $400 at most.

I wouldn't even bother locking it then:eek::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Jimmydr]

I wouldn't even bother locking it then:eek::rofl::rofl::rofl:

I keep my passport there also.