04/2014 - Sosua is dead...what's next?

[Hottnickels72]

Fellas I've been visiting Sosua for about 3 years now and during my last visit I felt that things were at their worst.

Why do I feel this way?


1. 1. Every night, there was at least one fight in either D’latins, rhumba or after 1. On my last night in sosua (a Saturday night) I observed 2 fights in rhumba, 1 in d’latins and 1 at after one. Fellas, im down there on vacation, to relax and have a good time. Not to be around people who are acting like animals. In the past I never use to observe this many fights duing my trips.



. 2. the chicas are asking for a lot more money but they are putting in a lot less work. For example, in the hotel that I was staying at, a chica give this dude a handjob and then demanded that he pays her 3,000 pesos. She threatened to call the police unless he payed her that amount. Eventually she accepted 1500 for the hand job. WTF is that. One of the dudes that I was hanging with told me that he took a girl back to his place and when she got there she told him that her stomach hurts and that she could not fuck but was still asking him to give her some pesos. If she knew that she had stomach pains from her period why didn’t she just keep her ass at home instead of trying to hustle that dude out of his pesos.


3. 3. Some dudes down in sosua are acting reckless and are posting pictures and videos all over Youtube. Now the girls are getting access to this stuff and are not allowing us to take pictures and videos as much as we use to. A chica even told me herself that she got this dude in trouble with the police because he posted naked pictures of her on the internet.



4. 4. Way to many SIMPS and WU guys. The girls are getting so much money from WU now, that they will walk away before you during a negotiation. I even had one refused to accept 1500pesos for 2hours at 5:30 in the morning. She walked away and did not even look back. She demanded that I pay 2000 for 2hours at 5:30 in the morning. WTF.


5. 5. Is it me…it seems like there is less girls around. After one is usually pack on Saturday nights but it felt like it was a weekday when I was there on a Saturday night. In addition, I kept on seeing the same faces aroud Monday-Thursday and most of those faces I’ve been seeing for the past few years and have not had any urge to go after them.

6. There is not a lot of girls around that are 8's, 9's and 10's. Very few 9's and 10's and a couple of 8's.




Fellas, what’s your opinion on how sosua is changing. Is it time to head over to Medellin, Thailand or AC and say goodbye to Sosua?

[whynotme]

short awnser; yes yes yes:rofl:

[Mr. Smooth]

Ok....I gotta get the popcorn ready for this. Gonna be a rainy weekend where I live so I need to be prepared for the ensuing tsunami of opinions from everyone.

I say 10 pages by Sunday midnight! :rofl:

[el toro]

You sound heated dude. It's been a year now since I've been to Sosua and heard some of the same things before that. I can say that some are demanding a few more pesos, but even a ho's cost of living increases and like you said--they are getting it from somewhere, so why not ask for more. I don't recall ever seeing a lot of fights though--that would turn me away if out of control. Simps, WU, captains etc...and the dudes that think they're doing something new or special putting themselves out there to attract extra attention to what we do, does seem at an all time high.

[camaro1257]

Monger Utopia

I have travelled through-out Latin America to most of the favorite destinations in this thing of ours most recently Medellin and I will say that there is no such thing as a Monger Utopia. Each monger venue has its challenges because in those venues we are extranjeros who in general are seen as an opportunity for the next meal. As for Medellin the Paisas were less likely to scam you but in general were more businesslike in my experience.

I would encourage you not only to visit different mongering destinations but to explore more of the Dominican Republic than Sosua. I have met some pretty decent people in other parts of the Island.

As for Sosua I would encourage anyone who is going to go frequently to learn Spanish and study the culture. I am an advocate of the interview and which includes speaking in Spanish about more than "cuantos tu quieres?" the woman's responses will tell you a great deal about her. In fact I have had more than one woman walk away from me or disqualify herself at some time during the interview process.

As far as the fights are concerned I would encourage you to minimize your alochol consumption, be careful who you spend time with and be aware of your surroundings regardless as to the mongering venue you choose. More often than not were ever there is PFP there is a criminal element close by where that be illicit drugs or any other type of crime.

Lastly spread your wings and try Santo Domingo, Medellin, San Jose and Panama City and draw your own conclusions.

[Hottnickels72]

[QUOTE=el toro;1290627]You sound heated dude. It's been a year now since I've been to Sosua and heard some of the same things before that. I can say that some are demanding a few more pesos, but even a ho's cost of living increases and like you said--they are getting it from somewhere, so why not ask for more. I don't recall ever seeing a lot of fights though--that would turn me away if out of control. Simps, WU, captains etc...and the dudes that think they're doing something new or special putting themselves out there to attract extra attention to what we do, does seem at an all time high.[/QUOT


Not heated,... more disappointed, but i guess all good things must come to and end or close to it.

[martin0siddle]

Fellas I've been visiting Sosua for about 3 years now and during my last visit I felt that things were at their worst.

Why do I feel this way?


1. 1. Every night, there was at least one fight in either D’latins, rhumba or after 1. On my last night in sosua (a Saturday night) I observed 2 fights in rhumba, 1 in d’latins and 1 at after one. Fellas, im down there on vacation, to relax and have a good time. Not to be around people who are acting like animals. In the past I never use to observe this many fights duing my trips.



. 2. the chicas are asking for a lot more money but they are putting in a lot less work. For example, in the hotel that I was staying at, a chica give this dude a handjob and then demanded that he pays her 3,000 pesos. She threatened to call the police unless he payed her that amount. Eventually she accepted 1500 for the hand job. WTF is that. One of the dudes that I was hanging with told me that he took a girl back to his place and when she got there she told him that her stomach hurts and that she could not fuck but was still asking him to give her some pesos. If she knew that she had stomach pains from her period why didn’t she just keep her ass at home instead of trying to hustle that dude out of his pesos.


3. 3. Some dudes down in sosua are acting reckless and are posting pictures and videos all over Youtube. Now the girls are getting access to this stuff and are not allowing us to take pictures and videos as much as we use to. A chica even told me herself that she got this dude in trouble with the police because he posted naked pictures of her on the internet.



4. 4. Way to many SIMPS and WU guys. The girls are getting so much money from WU now, that they will walk away before you during a negotiation. I even had one refused to accept 1500pesos for 2hours at 5:30 in the morning. She walked away and did not even look back. She demanded that I pay 2000 for 2hours at 5:30 in the morning. WTF.


5. 5. Is it me…it seems like there is less girls around. After one is usually pack on Saturday nights but it felt like it was a weekday when I was there on a Saturday night. In addition, I kept on seeing the same faces aroud Monday-Thursday and most of those faces I’ve been seeing for the past few years and have not had any urge to go after them.


Fellas, what’s your opinion on how sosua is changing. Is it time to head over to Medellin, Thailand or AC and say goodbye to Sosua?

1. There is fight in disco everywhere in the world.. it will not change.. i dont know how was sosua before, but i can tell you when i go out in my own city in canada there is fight at the disco, what i do to avoid that? I got in more tranquillo bar, same thing here, i haven't seen a fight at Rancho Tipico yet and its very full 4-5 days per week...

2. Chica with trouble will always be.. anywhere in the world also... again, in my own city, when i call independant escort, its hit and miss, sometime you have bad sometime oyu have good, they wont treat you with police but they will call a guy that will point you a gun in your face if you dont pay everything you got, so... I also had chica in sosua with stomach pain, you cant do shit about that except when you see her you ask if she is in period, or if its ok for sex, you offer 2000 pesos to her for sex, you make it clear, not just wanna come to my house, ok, 2000 pesos... I am not sosua expert yet but i learned alot since past months.

3. For the picture, it is normal... social media are growing... chica have 2000 friend on facebook.. they dont want to appear naked... more and more chica have facebook.. phone are less and less expensive with internet... more and more people on social media = chica less and less willing to take pic. None of the chica i had refused that i take picture of her with clothes outside of my hotel room but inside its different story... i dont post picture no more but that is because of snitch not because of trouble with police.

4. Maybe the chica at 5:30 in morning had another guy or wanted to go sleep but for extra she would have gone with you ... i seen chica asking 4000 pesos for a moment, but does that mean i will pay that? no but i bet some stupid tourist will, and not stupid, some really have the money and dont care, if the chica is REALLY to their like then they wont care... your on a week or 2 week vacation what is it 12$ more for the chica you REALLY like ( 1500->2000 )

5.Can't say about #5 because i never been here before this year.

[philly519]

yep sosua is a shit hole and only gets worse every time you go back i been to ac and manila and it's way better then sosua will ever be people are great the girls treat you good and they don't let the local thugs hang out in the hookers bars its great lol

im heading to the philippines next month and will also be hitting up thailand can't wait for that then ill be heading to medellin next year and to tell you the truth i don't see a dr trip for many years cause there's a lot of better places to spend my money and see the world while doing it instead of just burning all my cash on some fucked up island with hot chicks and cool ex pats are the only things i like about the dr besides that its a pretty shity place in my mind

[The Sage]

I'm probably going to take heat for this, but this is my observation. Anything over a seven that's getting clients on a regular basis is going to cost you a worry free 2000 pesos ($46 at the current exchange rate). Yeah , you can sometime negotiate them down to 1500. Only problem is they often will try to find a way to give you 75% of what they would have given you if you had paid the 2000.

Couple of factors involved here that I know most mongers don't give a shit about. The peso has devalued by 35% or so over the last five years. The average dominican's buying power has been reduced further by additional taxes and fuel increases. Bottom line is 1500 pesos doesn't go nearly as far as it did even 3 years ago. Last, but not least the town is awash in stupid gringo money. The more enterprising hoes can get paid 3000 ST on the regular. When I land one of those chicks at 2000 I view it has a bargain. If a girl can get more she's going to ask for more and it's her business so she should have the right to. There's deflation present in the cost of many things. Unfortunately pussy in Sosua isn't one of them.

Guys who once went to Brazil and watched the cost of sex go from $50 to $150 have the right to bitch. Guys going to Sosua who have experienced maybe a move from $41 to $46 (exchange rate adjusted) over the last three years for ST with a mid-high level quality chica really shouldn't be complaining.

[Hanzo]

Never been there, and will never go there to monger. No one can convince me there aren't more than a handful of attractive girls in Sosua, and if there are I haven't seen then. Just by the observations I've made from this board, it seems like a lame place with 99% ugly females, can't see why anyone after a couple of trips to the Dominican Republic wouldn't feel the urge to branch our, and actually meet quality looking females.

[El-Rey]

Sosua is NOT dead. The problem is Dominicans want something for nothing.. Guys are getting caught up with the ass and the chica is only interested in the cash. They running game. If a chica doesn't put in a performance then you get rid of her. I laugh when dudes say she threatened to call police.. You can pay the police to get rid of her and she will be screwed.

Its all a game and the you got dudes NOT wanting to pay as well. They get mad when a chica tells them NO to 1500rd.. You gotta pay for what you want. Then the kats that say "How much" ?? Your asking for a robot. Too many guys come down here tryna fuck for 1500rd.. Im sorry but times have changed. They want more money. Sosua isn't dead yall need to improve your train of thought. The club in NY that cost $20 to get into in 2005 now cost $35 to get into.. Times change

[jacknback]

Every where else I have gone besides Sosua,I didn't have to worry about the toilet paper and soap coming up missing:rofl::rofl::rofl:

I'm with wnm yes,yes and yes.

[WSJ3]

Sousa has always been like this...I am referring to the drunk young guys fighting and making it rain...

The women well beauty is in the eye of the beholder so my 9 might be your 4 and visa versa...not a real issue I care about the bbbj and my leche...

The overpaying well that comes and goes sometimes I get a chica for 1000 pesos and then I return 3 weeks later and she wants 8000 because someone else paid that...

I always say its your vacation pay what you want to pay...it doesnt affect me because I will find a street rat that will take 1500 or 2000 instead of paying you 8000

Just remember its your vacation YOU CREATE THE ILLUSION...

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Fellas I've been visiting Sosua for about 3 years now and during my last visit I felt that things were at their worst.

Why do I feel this way?


1. 1. Every night, there was at least one fight in either D’latins, rhumba or after 1. On my last night in sosua (a Saturday night) I observed 2 fights in rhumba, 1 in d’latins and 1 at after one. Fellas, im down there on vacation, to relax and have a good time. Not to be around people who are acting like animals. In the past I never use to observe this many fights duing my trips.



. 2. the chicas are asking for a lot more money but they are putting in a lot less work. For example, in the hotel that I was staying at, a chica give this dude a handjob and then demanded that he pays her 3,000 pesos. She threatened to call the police unless he payed her that amount. Eventually she accepted 1500 for the hand job. WTF is that. One of the dudes that I was hanging with told me that he took a girl back to his place and when she got there she told him that her stomach hurts and that she could not fuck but was still asking him to give her some pesos. If she knew that she had stomach pains from her period why didn’t she just keep her ass at home instead of trying to hustle that dude out of his pesos.


3. 3. Some dudes down in sosua are acting reckless and are posting pictures and videos all over Youtube. Now the girls are getting access to this stuff and are not allowing us to take pictures and videos as much as we use to. A chica even told me herself that she got this dude in trouble with the police because he posted naked pictures of her on the internet.



4. 4. Way to many SIMPS and WU guys. The girls are getting so much money from WU now, that they will walk away before you during a negotiation. I even had one refused to accept 1500pesos for 2hours at 5:30 in the morning. She walked away and did not even look back. She demanded that I pay 2000 for 2hours at 5:30 in the morning. WTF.


5. 5. Is it me…it seems like there is less girls around. After one is usually pack on Saturday nights but it felt like it was a weekday when I was there on a Saturday night. In addition, I kept on seeing the same faces aroud Monday-Thursday and most of those faces I’ve been seeing for the past few years and have not had any urge to go after them.

6. There is not a lot of girls around that are 8's, 9's and 10's. Very few 9's and 10's and a couple of 8's.




Fellas, what’s your opinion on how sosua is changing. Is it time to head over to Medellin, Thailand or AC and say goodbye to Sosua?

[questner]

'In the beginning it is the reality that shapes the mind, in the end it is the mind that shapes the reality'


Questner


Ditto Sosua.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHs93nTGvSI

[hugrad95a]

I still have quality chicks that will take 1500 for ST and I have had a few that wouldn't take less than 2500. The 1500 chicas will make more with me over time than the ones asking for2500. You can find chicas at your price points. You just gotta be willing to put the work in.

[GREEKFREAK]

I miss Sosua...I just wanted to let that be known :( I miss El-rey when his name was VPCHILL lol. I miss when they hardly played hip hop in sosua..I think hip hop messed up Sosua...I know that sounds crazy...but think about it...if there was no Drake and rick ross and all that shit playing...things wouldn't have been so flashy...i can't really explain it...ciroc might have messed up sosua...ahh fuck it i give up...

[Rubicon]

You can find chicas at your price points. You just gotta be willing to put the work in.

Thank you. :iconTU::iconTU::iconTU::iconTU::iconTU::iconTU:

[eldorob]

Sosua is NOT dead. The problem is Dominicans want something for nothing.. Guys are getting caught up with the ass and the chica is only interested in the cash. They running game. If a chica doesn't put in a performance then you get rid of her. I laugh when dudes say she threatened to call police.. You can pay the police to get rid of her and she will be screwed.

Its all a game and the you got dudes NOT wanting to pay as well. They get mad when a chica tells them NO to 1500rd.. You gotta pay for what you want. Then the kats that say "How much" ?? Your asking for a robot. Too many guys come down here tryna fuck for 1500rd.. Im sorry but times have changed. They want more money. Sosua isn't dead yall need to improve your train of thought. The club in NY that cost $20 to get into in 2005 now cost $35 to get into.. Times change

Victorian House, really? That's not a monger spot. Are you changing it up a little? I just had a friend stay there, hope you treated him well. Not that it matters, they started their days drunk on the golf course.
I've been wanting to stop in there, can I get a tour?

As I've been saying, Sosua is changing. More specifically, Pedro Clisante. You can't stop it as there is just too much weight behind it. Although it's taking awhile because Dominicans don't know how to take advantage of incidents like fights. Three fights in one night? Call out the swat team, clear out the bars, start frisking, haul off the smart asses, card the chicas.... You'd have a hundred plus guys cutting their vaca's short and never coming back. I guess it's a good thing I'm not in charge, ha.

I still predict that you won't recognize Pedro Clisante in a couple years. However, on a bright note, the chica's aren't going anywhere. Just the party atmosphere.

[Hottnickels72]

I still have quality chicks that will take 1500 for ST and I have had a few that wouldn't take less than 2500. The 1500 chicas will make more with me over time than the ones asking for2500. You can find chicas at your price points. You just gotta be willing to put the work in.

i def agree with this. the chicas that take 1500 from me, stay all night, we go at it all night and they never complain. Ohh and i usually take them several times during my trip and they usually make about an extra 1000pesos in tips from me.

[Hottnickels72]

I miss Sosua...I just wanted to let that be known :( I miss El-rey when his name was VPCHILL lol. I miss when they hardly played hip hop in sosua..I think hip hop messed up Sosua...I know that sounds crazy...but think about it...if there was no Drake and rick ross and all that shit playing...things wouldn't have been so flashy...i can't really explain it...ciroc might have messed up sosua...ahh fuck it i give up...

I met this chick who knows all the lyrics to many hardcore rap songs. I was shock when i saw her rapping with the songs but she still does not know how to speak english. The HipHop influence is substantial.

[LJDMV]

This sounds familiar to a post Cuba Dave made where all of a sudden Sosua was no good now. I have heard both sides of this from guys . Most of the guys are saying it is still good. You just have to change up the way you look for girls and do things. I have not been back in over a year so I can't give my opinion. I do know there are so many girls on FB now in POP , Sosua area begging for guys to come and send time with them. price wise the price went up a couple years ago from many girls. Some girls are getting 100-150dollars from guys. Crazy but it is happening. But avg seems to be 2,000 pesos most girls are requesting. Of course it's up to you what you want to give her.

[rahsta]

I'm probably going to take heat for this, but this is my observation. Anything over a seven that's getting clients on a regular basis is going to cost you a worry free 2000 pesos ($46 at the current exchange rate). Yeah , you can sometime negotiate them down to 1500. Only problem is they often will try to find a way to give you 75% of what they would have given you if you had paid the 2000.

Couple of factors involved here that I know most mongers don't give a shit about. The peso has devalued by 35% or so over the last five years. The average dominican's buying power has been reduced further by additional taxes and fuel increases. Bottom line is 1500 pesos doesn't go nearly as far as it did even 3 years ago. Last, but not least the town is awash in stupid gringo money. The more enterprising hoes can get paid 3000 ST on the regular. When I land one of those chicks at 2000 I view it has a bargain. If a girl can get more she's going to ask for more and it's her business so she should have the right to. There's deflation present in the cost of many things. Unfortunately pussy in Sosua isn't one of them.

Guys who once went to Brazil and watched the cost of sex go from $50 to $150 have the right to bitch. Guys going to Sosua who have experienced maybe a move from $41 to $46 (exchange rate adjusted) over the last three years for ST with a mid-high level quality chica really shouldn't be complaining.

The thing about the girl in Sosua you never know how they are going to act once you take them back. When chivks start reneging on the agree upon price you start looking at all chicks sideways. Expecially the 10s, alot of those glamorous chicks dont like to put in work.

[WSJ3]

The thing about the girl in Sosua you never know how they are going to act once you take them back. When chivks start reneging on the agree upon price you start looking at all chicks sideways. Expecially the 10s, alot of those glamorous chicks dont like to put in work.

It depends on the chemistry as well. If you screen them well you still run the risk of getting a dud...

You dont have to look like the Hulk all muscle and roided up to get a chica you just have to talk to them and stimulate their minds and emotions.

Yes dress nice and use good hygiene (all things that some guys take for granted) and you will be fine. Pedro Clisante is still going to have the HOES.

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[el_papi_chew_low]

You just have to change up the way you look for girls and do things. I just came back from a great trip last month and I think the point you made is important. In the span of 10 years, I've had to reset my mongering expectations in Sosua and adjust to changes. In some ways, the game keeps changing, meanwhile places like Clasicos and Pasions fall out of the mix. There are wholesale comprehensive data sheets about Sosua mongering increasingly appearing on the internet, guys walking around with hidden cameras filming everything on the street and uploading it to youtube, the effects of social media, and many other changes I wont even mention. One has to be flexible and enjoy Sosua for what it is. At the end of the day, it still beats a day back home.

[el_papi_chew_low]

I miss when they hardly played hip hop in sosua..I think hip hop messed up Sosua...

All jokes aside, it is an eerie coincidence that the video for one of the hottest raps out (according to another ISOC member) was filmed in Sosua. Guess its a sign of the times.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSE_ClsUx7g

[Dave Diaz]

All jokes aside, it is an eerie coincidence that the video for one of the hottest raps out (according to another ISOC member) was filmed in Sosua. Guess its a sign of the times.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSE_ClsUx7g

:surprised: I am speechless...I am literally without speech. (forget where that is from)

I almost feel the need to apologize...I don't even know what for. Was that really? he did the whole video there.

Nothing funny about that, Eerie indeed and these are some scary signs.

This goes back to the whole people posting things on youtube and the girls now being all defensive.

[Dave Diaz]

. 2. the chicas are asking for a lot more money but they are putting in a lot less work. For example, in the hotel that I was staying at, a chica give this dude a handjob and then demanded that he pays her 3,000 pesos. She threatened to call the police unless he payed her that amount. Eventually she accepted 1500 for the hand job. WTF is that. One of the dudes that I was hanging with told me that he took a girl back to his place and when she got there she told him that her stomach hurts and that she could not fuck but was still asking him to give her some pesos. If she knew that she had stomach pains from her period why didn’t she just keep her ass at home instead of trying to hustle that dude out of his pesos.

4. 4. Way to many SIMPS and WU guys. The girls are getting so much money from WU now, that they will walk away before you during a negotiation. I even had one refused to accept 1500pesos for 2hours at 5:30 in the morning. She walked away and did not even look back. She demanded that I pay 2000 for 2hours at 5:30 in the morning. WTF.


Fellas, what’s your opinion on how sosua is changing. Is it time to head over to Medellin, Thailand or AC and say goodbye to Sosua?

I was thinking the best way to really respond to these 2 posts was with another post I just stumbled across in rereading one of the greatest TR's ever... http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/showthread.php?334429-03-2011-It-s-the-STERR-Trip-Report-Birthday-in-the-Philippines!/page2


Check please!

Which in the Philippines is actually said: BILL please :rofl:. Yooooo when they brought me my "bill" telling me I owed 1600 + I was like WTF I got like two drinks, one for me and a lady drink(which I kept on saying "baby drink" lol) for her. They explained me that yes + the barfine.....whaaaat!?!?! They actually had a receipt for the barfine, a receipt for the girl!!! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: There I couldn't stop laughing!!!!!!! A RECEIPT!!! lol So here I was more than happy to hand in my $37 for the TLN with drinks!:wink:

Click to see pic (http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/imagehosting/155734d876debaf568.jpg)
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None of the drama and when you are negotiating with a Freelancer you always have the leverage of knowing she would only be making half of whatever the barfine was. Asia is great. I hear Meddy is too.

Just thought i'd share that with you.

[philly519]

I was thinking the best way to really respond to these 2 posts was with another post I just stumbled across in rereading one of the greatest TR's ever... http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/showthread.php?334429-03-2011-It-s-the-STERR-Trip-Report-Birthday-in-the-Philippines!/page2



None of the drama and when you are negotiating with a Freelancer you always have the leverage of knowing she would only be making half of whatever the barfine was. Asia is great. I hear Meddy is too.

Just thought i'd share that with you.



i love it that's valhalla bar angeles city my number one spot to hang out during the day just ask jack and back about that bar or drop my name to the lovely ladies working there and they will make sure you are taken care of

[BigLongBeach]

no offense to any but the price of pussy argument in my mind is the stupidest argument, the price of pussy hasn't changed. The price never changed because the price of pussy is the amount you are willing to pay... point blank.

If a girl doesnt accept you offer, and you dont agreed to her counter offer... just move on to the next one Easy enough.

[BigLongBeach]

I'm probably going to take heat for this, but this is my observation. Anything over a seven that's getting clients on a regular basis is going to cost you a worry free 2000 pesos ($46 at the current exchange rate). Yeah , you can sometime negotiate them down to 1500. Only problem is they often will try to find a way to give you 75% of what they would have given you if you had paid the 2000.

Couple of factors involved here that I know most mongers don't give a shit about. The peso has devalued by 35% or so over the last five years. The average dominican's buying power has been reduced further by additional taxes and fuel increases. Bottom line is 1500 pesos doesn't go nearly as far as it did even 3 years ago. Last, but not least the town is awash in stupid gringo money. The more enterprising hoes can get paid 3000 ST on the regular. When I land one of those chicks at 2000 I view it has a bargain. If a girl can get more she's going to ask for more and it's her business so she should have the right to. There's deflation present in the cost of many things. Unfortunately pussy in Sosua isn't one of them.

Guys who once went to Brazil and watched the cost of sex go from $50 to $150 have the right to bitch. Guys going to Sosua who have experienced maybe a move from $41 to $46 (exchange rate adjusted) over the last three years for ST with a mid-high level quality chica really shouldn't be complaining.

I ment to respond to your post yesterday, thank g$D that some1 the simple math. if i was paying 1500 at 35-1 in 2011 and now in 2014 i pay 2000 at 42-1 i am only paying $4 more..... While price of living as been on the rise for all dominicans.

[camaro1257]

I ment to respond to your post yesterday, thank g$D that some1 the simple math. if i was paying 1500 at 35-1 in 2011 and now in 2014 i pay 2000 at 42-1 i am only paying $4 more..... While price of living as been on the rise for all dominicans.

...therefore 2k is a fair price for a woman that might otherwise be unavailable...:wink:

[No Worries]

Sosua is NOT dead. The problem is Dominicans want something for nothing.. Guys are getting caught up with the ass and the chica is only interested in the cash. They running game. If a chica doesn't put in a performance then you get rid of her. I laugh when dudes say she threatened to call police.. You can pay the police to get rid of her and she will be screwed.


Paying the police to throw the chica out? Seems like a great option! Speak on it El Rey!!

[BigLongBeach]

i understand these sosua is dieing threads. The truth is that sosua isnt dieing. Sosua you remember is dieing. These threads remember of when started going to sosua. Trip number one and year number one I thought it was the best place in the world, by trip 3 at end of year one me and my crew all thought man this place has changed it is dieing.

The truth is we were the ones that changed. I know i changed and the biggest change is what i wanted and what is the value of sosua to me. I found other locations that gave me what i wanted. I when i am in sosua i know what i am looking for

[DMV]

Hos always want more money doesn't matter what the value of their currency is at that moment.
The buyer sets the price, well at least I thought we did. Then again we do, so don't get mad at the hos

[Seville]

Paying the police to throw the chica out? Seems like a great option! Speak on it El Rey!!

For the guy on vacation I don't think that is a good option at all. To begin with the dispute is most likely about money. If that is the case then you can either give the chica the extra 1000 - 1500 pesos to make her go away or you can give it to the police to make her go away.

In the first option the chica leaves "happy" and there are no repercussions. You chalk it up to choosing a bad chica and go on with your vacation.

In the second option there can be different results. If you tell her you are calling the police perhaps she decides to "get her money's worth" and starts breaking whatever she can of yours or the hotels before the police get there. She might physically attack you and then you will be forced to put your hands on her to defend yourself. Now, with possible marks on her body, she can tell the police a different story. Maybe they believe her or maybe the price for them to get rid of her goes up. Regardless, she is going to be pissed and, just maybe, decides to get even at a later date. She can go to the Fiscal and tell a complete lie about what happened but that won't stop you from possibly being arrested. Maybe her chulo takes a swing at you in Rumba the next night. Spending a night in jail is nothing to him and you might be in the cell next to him.

Either way, in this scenario, you are going to be 1000 - 1500 pesos poorer. The second option is much more likely to end badly for you. I would advise against it; especially if the chica in question is Dominican as opposed to Haitian.

[philly519]

For the guy on vacation I don't think that is a good option at all. To begin with the dispute is most likely about money. If that is the case then you can either give the chica the extra 1000 - 1500 pesos to make her go away or you can give it to the police to make her go away.

In the first option the chica leaves "happy" and there are no repercussions. You chalk it up to choosing a bad chica and go on with your vacation.

In the second option there can be different results. If you tell her you are calling the police perhaps she decides to "get her money's worth" and starts breaking whatever she can of yours or the hotels before the police get there. She might physically attack you and then you will be forced to put your hands on her to defend yourself. Now, with possible marks on her body, she can tell the police a different story. Maybe they believe her or maybe the price for them to get rid of her goes up. Regardless, she is going to be pissed and, just maybe, decides to get even at a later date. She can go to the Fiscal and tell a complete lie about what happened but that won't stop you from possibly being arrested. Maybe her chulo takes a swing at you in Rumba the next night. Spending a night in jail is nothing to him and you might be in the cell next to him.

Either way, in this scenario, you are going to be 1000 - 1500 pesos poorer. The second option is much more likely to end badly for you. I would advise against it; especially if the chica in question is Dominican as opposed to Haitian.


it seems like when d latin opened and passions closed sosua took a turn for the worse and my last 2 trips there had nothing on my first 8 trips chica wise and even a lack of gringos which i like but the chicas sure as hell don't n its crazy because the fact that ive been thru these same situations your talking about probably 10 + times in sosua and never once in cuba or the philippines its saying something about the country my last trip to dr i maybe had 5 new chicas and the rest were repeats or ex pat approved n y i choose to play the game like this is because im sick of this bs about hearing how these sluts trying to call the cops change up the price last minute and even fake getting beat up and put us in jail n taking are hard earned cash and i hope and never wish this on any buddy but sooner or later its bound to happen again to someone unless you take your cation and talk to the ex pats and choose em good and i mean choose em good cause dominicans can be some crazy coke up nasty bitches and this is y ill never pull from after 1 again ive had almost all my issues with girls from after 1

[Shogun Warrior]

I miss Sosua...I just wanted to let that be known :( I miss El-rey when his name was VPCHILL lol. I miss when they hardly played hip hop in sosua..I think hip hop messed up Sosua...I know that sounds crazy...but think about it...if there was no Drake and rick ross and all that shit playing...things wouldn't have been so flashy...i can't really explain it...ciroc might have messed up sosua...ahh fuck it i give up...

Ya'll dick dancing around the truth without saying it and you know exactly what the problem is......................


Too many damn black folk a.k.a. African Americans. Those of us that are real to who we are as "brothers" for damn well know that shit is the real truth!!! We grew up with it our whole lives and know how to deal with it.

When have I not ever told the bottom line truth?

[TNT72]

it seems like when d latin opened and passions closed sosua took a turn for the worse and my last 2 trips there had nothing on my first 8 trips chica wise and even a lack of gringos which i like but the chicas sure as hell don't n its crazy because the fact that ive been thru these same situations your talking about probably 10 + times in sosua and never once in cuba or the philippines is saying something about the country my last trip to dr i maybe had 5 new chicas and the rest were repeats or ex pat approved n y i choose to play the game like this is because im sick of this bs about hearing how these sluts trying to call the cops change up the price last minute and even fake getting beat up and put us in jail n taking are hard earned cash and i hope and never wish this on any buddy but sooner or later its bound to happen again to someone unless you take your cation and talk to the ex pats and choose em good and i mean choose em good cause dominicans can be some crazy coke up nasty bitches and this is y ill never pull from after 1 again ive had almost all my issues with girls from after 1


I haven't been there, so correct me if I'm wrong. Aren't the girls in Philippines working for the bars? If they are, then they know that you can go back and complain to the manager/mamasan. (kinda like Passions). And isn't prostitut ion completely illegal in Cuba? So obviously the chica isn't going to cause a commotion or run to a cop saying that she is involved in an illegal activity in a Communist country.


So comparing those two to Sosua where it is a completely open market isn't the same.

I've had my issues with a few chicas, but if you've had that many problems with the chicas, maybe you are attracted to crazy like I am??????

Maybe some guys need to realize that they are attracted to crazy? I know I am. And I believe that Sage has realized sometimes he finds crazy attractive. It isn't always just the chicas who are the only participating party in the issue.......





And philly...I think you've got issues with .'s and ,'s as well!!!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Mr. Smooth]

no offense to any but the price of pussy argument in my mind is the stupidest argument, the price of pussy hasn't changed. The price never changed because the price of pussy is the amount you are willing to pay... point blank.

If a girl doesnt accept you offer, and you dont agreed to her counter offer... just move on to the next one Easy enough.

This has been posted enough times to fill up a library. I think the better question is where are these guys coming from who pay the "over the top" rates that the chicas are apparently asking for?

El Rey mentioned the cover for a club in NYC being $20 several years back and how it might be $35 to get in now. I assume thats without a drink ticket! :rofl: So, when that guy goes out, either alone, on a date, or with his crew, that cost is factored in to his night out of entertainment. The economics of having fun eventually become institutionalized in your mind. In the big city, things cost what they do and it is much more than out in the boonies. A draft at a Manhattan bar might run $5-6 (just saying as an example...never set foot in NYC before). That same draft beer in Dubuque, Iowa might run $2.50. The Iowa guy would claim highway robbery if he walked into the NYC bar. The New Yorker just goes with it.

I would bet that the overwhelming majority of the guys who pay the chicas these "inflated" prices are guys from the larger metro areas where the cost of having a good time can burn a hole in one's wallet. Without having to pay that large cover, as El Rey referenced, they figure they are that much ahead of the game in their own mind, and don't feel the need to negotiate a rate that might actually be more reasonable to those of us who have been there numerous times, or live there.

But, when you factor in the less expensive hotel costs, as compared to New Orleans, Miami, Las Vegas, or some other fun town in the States, the overall cost of meals, the rock bottom price of drinks (a grande for $3 bucks), I still say that going to Sosua, or the DR as a whole, is one of the best vacation deals a guy can get thats out there right now. As Sage wrote, the devaluing of the peso vs. the dollar over the years, it has actually worked in our favor.

You can't blame the chica for getting what she can. I imagine the cost of a salon appointment has gone up too!

[XXX]

My God,,,,,A Sosua is dead thread,,,,,A journal about a man whos never had sex in his entire life without having to pay for it and now has a broken cock AGAIN while trying to catch up for lost time,,,,,And a thread about Snitches,,,,,,,,,JESUS AYUDA MI,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Come on now people,,,Tiger could go down Tommorow for a week,,come back and write a report and everyone would be like "Wow, Sosua is hoppin right now man",,,,,,,,,It's all what you make of it,,,,,,,and if you still cant make anything out of it,,,venture out to another part of the DR,, or Another country,,,,,,,

I was just there on and off for about ten days,,,,,,Granted I was wifed up ,,,,,but when I did sneak out ,,weather it be at night or the late afternoon,,,,,I never saw a fight,,,,,,,But I did see plenty of chicas,,,,,I almost found it hard NOT to find a chica I liked,,,,

As far as the price goes ,,,I agree with BLB,,,,,it is whatever your willing to pay,,,,,,,,And as WSJ3 says ,,the ability to talk to them and you having good hygene goes a long way,,,,,

This chica approached me with a large smile ,,,we had good chemistry and convo,,,,and she liked the way I smelled,,,,and we left for an ST,,,,we never discussed the price ,,and after she put in a great performance I payed her,(1200),,,,did she ask for more,, Yes,,,,did I give her a little more,,,Yes (300) ,,,and then I talked my way out of any other possible problems,,,,,and as Hanzo would say ,,,not being a general " Dweeb" probably helps as well,,,,,,,,


http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=97463&d=1397160461

Also,, one night I just wanted to take a walk to the colmado by Citylights to stock up on some waters for the room,,,,,and ended up being approached by this girl out in front of a mobbed Dlatins Who remembered seeing me earlier with a bambino in my arms,,,,,We had a little convo,,,agreed on a price ,,and went across the street upstairs in Bar Central,,,,,Another great performance,,,,,no upsell ,,,,and we went our ways both happy,,,,

I honestly don't understand what is so hard about all of this,,,,,,


http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=98099&d=1398540187


And as far as 5:30 AM man,,,,,,If shes throwing 2000 for 2 hours,,,and your not willing to go from 1500 to 2000 ,,,,,,Sorry man,,,but that's on you,,,,,, if you really wanted to fuck her just go to 2000,,,,,,,,,your on vacation ,,you don't live there,,,,,


I will agree though that the music shit definitely sucks,,,,but they are catering to the non stop increase in Weekend Warriors,,,,,,,This is what makes Las Terrenas so much better than Sosua,,,,they actually play music that you would expect to hear while in the DR.......

All in all,,,I cannot say that sosua is dead,,,,,,a little different yes,,,,,,but again ,,it's what you make out of it,,,,,,,

[philly519]

I haven't been there, so correct me if I'm wrong. Aren't the girls in Philippines working for the bars? If they are, then they know that you can go back and complain to the manager/mamasan. (kinda like Passions). And isn't prostitut ion completely illegal in Cuba? So obviously the chica isn't going to cause a commotion or run to a cop saying that she is involved in an illegal activity in a Communist country.


So comparing those two to Sosua where it is a completely open market isn't the same.

I've had my issues with a few chicas, but if you've had that many problems with the chicas, maybe you are attracted to crazy like I am??????

Maybe some guys need to realize that they are attracted to crazy? I know I am. And I believe that Sage has realized sometimes he finds crazy attractive. It isn't always just the chicas who are the only participating party in the issue.......





And philly...I think you've got issues with .'s and ,'s as well!!!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


actually manila and angeles city have many disco's with freelancers so i can compare it to sosua how about you travel some where else then dr for once and maybe you will see how it is in the philippines or cuba
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
i do have issues with girls in dr always trying to change up the price and last time i had a great trip in dr issue free im learning how to control my self more every trip

n yes cuba the girls are all scared of the police so i know what u saying about that but the philippines is different

[The Sage]

Damn, TNT72, were you monitoring my last trip. Saw this light girl with fake tits who was mean mugging a potential client every time he turned away from her. Talked about her bad attitude to my buddy and complained about her fake tits and less than solid ass.

Flash forward 3 days. I see her in After One. I'm like what the fuck she's cute enough and I want to see if the breast job is any good. Well after haggling back and forth she agrees to 2000 for one hour. She was very adament about how she would not stay a minute longer. I'm okay with this sometime you got to pay the entrance fee. Get back to the apartment she's actually a lot prettier than I thought and the breast job is more a lift and the tits are firm yet not hard. We have a great initial session even though she insists on CBJ. About 30 minutes in she quits on me, rolls over and falls asleep. 6 hours later at 1 pm she's still sleeping. I got the favorita coming over so I got no choice, but to kick her out. The episode spawned the only name I knew her by from there forward, "Una Hora".

We sparred over the next couple of days. Every time I saw her I'd point out a flaw to my buddy. Actually cut a deal with her and backed out because my little hoe friend who had promised me a half priced session called to tell me to pick her up. Flash forward 2 days later. I run into "Una Hora" at Copa. Don't ask me why, but I want to take her again. Of course she's pissed at me for not taking her a couple of days back so I got to damn near kiss her ass and absorb abuse before she finally after a hour of my trying to convince her to leave agrees to.

Get back to the apartment. She goes into straight Diva mode. We're verbally sparing back and forth back and forth. She lets me know that she thinks I'm an asshole. Finally we fuck. 15 minutes in she jumps up and wants to leave. Nothing I could do to keep her there. We damn near come to blows. Fuck this I pay her. She storms out he apartment and turns her ankle going down the stairs. I'm like good, god don't like ugly.

Next day I'm in Rumba. Ana II is there in the full glory of her new breasts and liposuction. She's looking smashing, but every thing is so tight that I think I might break her during a session. She and I got this stupid thing going on between us. Sometimes she likes me. Sometimes she hates me. That day she liked me. I get a very good price. I'm there giving her a hard time about not wanting to walk or take a moto to my place (she wants me to go get the rental our pay a taxi to take us the block and a half). Then out of the corner of my eye I see "Una Hora" walk into Rumba. Ana II was left in the dust. I had to grill Una about her behavior that morning.

I confront her. She has this contrite expression on her face like she was really ashamed of her actions. We talk. I buy drinks. Before you know it we're carrying on like long lost lovers. We make a deal for TLN. Head over to City Lights to hang out with her friends. She leaves me sitting a bit longer than I wanted to while she talks to the dominican owner. I leave in a huff (I know this shit is getting weird :rofl::rofl:). Go home change clothes. On the way to D'Latin she sees me from the City Lights balcony and rushes over. I go off on her about ignoring me and tell her if she can't respect me in the street then I don't want anything to do with her. I aprubtly end the conversation and storm off to D'Latin. She walks away almost crying. Been a very long time since I let a worker piss me off. Typically I could care less

After a less than satisfying night in D'Latin I go home and sleep alone on my final night. In the morning after I finish packing on a lark I send her a text. I don't expect a response, but she texts me right back. She needs to get dressed which means I won't have time to fuck her because I have to leave for the airport in an hour and a half. We agreed to meet to say goodbye.

I go pick up OMR and Mr NYC to have a final round of drinks. We chill at 4 Roses. Unbeknownst to me, my phone was on silent. Una Hora is blowing up my phone. I pull it out of my bag, see what has transpired and bid farewell to the fellows. She's staying at a place right off the strip which is in full view of anyone walking down Pedro. We embrace and hold each other for 5 minutes. Then I hug her again while playing with her hair. I hear my name. OMR and Mr NYC are looking right at my silly ass. I shine them on and keep doing what I'm doing. Time to go. I give her a kiss and head to the airport.

The chick is crazy and is like a light skinned version of my hoe ex-wife. They even have the same fuckin voice and share a personality. This probably explains why she crept up on me the way she did. Yeah, TNT72, crazy can be a powerful aphrodisiac. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

No, Sousa isn't dead. It's just not what it was. You need to use your strengths to your advantage. Having a feel for the culture and being able to communicate in Spanish goes a long way. If you go there often, being a known quantity also goes a long way. There's still a lot to be said for the place for those who see no benefit in going into the wild to chase after pussy.






I haven't been there, so correct me if I'm wrong. Aren't the girls in Philippines working for the bars? If they are, then they know that you can go back and complain to the manager/mamasan. (kinda like Passions). And isn't prostitut ion completely illegal in Cuba? So obviously the chica isn't going to cause a commotion or run to a cop saying that she is involved in an illegal activity in a Communist country.


So comparing those two to Sosua where it is a completely open market isn't the same.

I've had my issues with a few chicas, but if you've had that many problems with the chicas, maybe you are attracted to crazy like I am??????

Maybe some guys need to realize that they are attracted to crazy? I know I am. And I believe that Sage has realized sometimes he finds crazy attractive. It isn't always just the chicas who are the only participating party in the issue.......





And philly...I think you've got issues with .'s and ,'s as well!!!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[el_papi_chew_low]

Ya'll dick dancing around the truth without saying it and you know exactly what the problem is......................

Some (hard to tell how much) of the increase in foot traffic in Sosua can probably be attributed to sites like this forum. Certainly, the Sosua Hype Machine got taken to another level in the last few years ala Cuba Dave, Mulano, etc. The guy that was doing porn in Sosua basically talked about how he got the blue print on Sosua travel from ISOC.

I've seen pics I've taken and posted here reposted by people on this very site and others may have seen the same thing. I'm sure pics/reports, etc. get copied, emailed, reposted somewhere else, come up in a google images search or whatever. I guess what I'm pointing to is that I can't blame any of these weekend worriers or anyone else that shows up to pussy paradise. After all, we helped to Hype the place up.

At the same time, occasionally there's some great advice and knowlege being imparted on here and some great sharing of resources on places to stay and things of that nature.

Some folks talk about places like Cuba and the Phils. One thing about both of these places that make them somewhat unique compared to Sosua is that you can't get to them as easily, which discourages a lot of folks from going. I guess that might also be considered one of the exciting things about going to these places. I'm sure once Cuba opens up, we'll see some of the same kind of changing dynamic that we've seen in places like Sosua, including the internet Hype machine.

[JD426]

I will agree though that the music shit definitely sucks,,,,but they are catering to the non stop increase in Weekend Warriors,,,,,,,This is what makes Las Terrenas so much better than Sosua,,,,they actually play music that you would expect to hear while in the DR.......

All in all,,,I cannot say that sosua is dead,,,,,,a little different yes,,,,,,but again ,,it's what you make out of it,,,,,,,

Come on now XXX, lets not let the WW warriors Ruin LT as well, u know there is NOTHING there but Wrikled old Euros, a couple of rusted scooters, maybe one liquor store which has barely any booze, one conconut Tree on one small beach , and everyone has to be in Bed by 10 pm curfew..
NO CHICAS at all.. never, not a single one.

... :wink:
Let them be in Sosua & maybe Puerto Plata,.. but no further than 10 miles from the POP airport
its whats best for everyone concerened..



So Dont rent a Car, Dont exlore the rest of the DR. definitely DONT contact chicas on FB , Baddoo, and Dom C.
and for Gods sake DONT read any of the great trip reports here about other parts of the DR ..


Just stay all your asses in Sosua, and bitch about the prices... thats the right way to do it...
( enter scarasm smilie here)

[TNT72]

actually manila and angeles city have many disco's with freelancers so i can compare it to sosua how about you travel some where else then dr for once and maybe you will see how it is in the philippines or cuba
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
i do have issues with girls in dr always trying to change up the price and last time i had a great trip in dr issue free im learning how to control my self more every trip

n yes cuba the girls are all scared of the police so i know what u saying about that but the philippines is different

I'll be doing that when I won't be spending 1/4 of my vacation on a fucking plane.

[philly519]

I'll be doing that when I won't be spending 1/4 of my vacation on a fucking plane.

i feel u on that but medellin got to be on your kill list ? soon heard that's a cheap flight from the d ?

[TNT72]

i feel u on that but medellin got to be on your kill list ? soon heard that's a cheap flight from the d ?

Hoping for this year. But I love that little whore village with the beach.

[thunderstar]

Hoping for this year. But I love that little whore village with the beach.

And thats the problem for me as well.

I know Sosua isnt as great as we remember it - in fact - our last 3 visits there we have said would be our last.

But - the beach, the restaurants, the atmosphere, knowing you are going to meet up with guys from here, easy to get to other places, oh - and there are whores there - mean we get stuck in a rut - chasing memories of better times.

Going to be strong though - Kenya/Mombassa is next on the list!

[michel3275]

And thats the problem for me as well.

I know Sosua isnt as great as we remember it - in fact - our last 3 visits there we have said would be our last.

But - the beach, the restaurants, the atmosphere, knowing you are going to meet up with guys from here, easy to get to other places, oh - and there are whores there - mean we get stuck in a rut - chasing memories of better times.

Going to be strong though - Kenya/Mombassa is next on the list!

This!! and all you need to do is drive 20 minutes outside of sosua and all the'' cien dola, regalame cerbeza and hey my frenn!! sosua bullshit'' drops by 90%

[Seville]

And thats the problem for me as well.

I know Sosua isnt as great as we remember it - in fact - our last 3 visits there we have said would be our last.

But - the beach, the restaurants, the atmosphere, knowing you are going to meet up with guys from here, easy to get to other places, oh - and there are whores there - mean we get stuck in a rut - chasing memories of better times.

Going to be strong though - Kenya/Mombassa is next on the list!

What are your dates?

[thunderstar]

What are your dates?

Definitely June this year - probably weeks 2/3 or 1/2.

We will go "all inclusive" - but some of the Thomas Cook hotels are "guest friendly" and get bad reports on trip adviser as they allow prostitutes into the hotel!

Which means - those are the hotels we will book!

[Mr. Smooth]

Definitely June this year - probably weeks 2/3 or 1/2.

We will go "all inclusive" - but some of the Thomas Cook hotels are "guest friendly" and get bad reports on trip adviser as they allow prostitutes into the hotel!

Which means - those are the hotels we will book!

I hear a small band of idiots from the board are going to meet up there next month. Going to take part in some....uh.....missionary work over there. Yeah....thats it! :rofl:

[thunderstar]

I hear a small band of idiots from the board are going to meet up there next month. Going to take part in some....uh.....missionary work over there. Yeah....thats it! :rofl:


Dani Beach resort - £600 2 weeks All inclusive
Severn Seas - £550 - B&B

This includes flights - transfers etc on a dreamliner - never been on a dream liner.

May do the Severn Seas - as we will get out and explore.

Just mailed both hotels for the guest policy.

The UK travel agents show that the rooms sleep 2/3 people - so I have asked if I can bring a "friend" back to the hotel for drinks for a couple of hours.

Will see what the response is.

2nd June - 14 nights - crap flight times - but hey - its cheeper than the flight to DR alone!

[balcoach]

YES ... SOSUA is DEAD

You all should stop going, and choose another destination.
This is a good idea... I agree!!!!

[tarzan]

Ya'll dick dancing around the truth without saying it and you know exactly what the problem is......................


Too many damn black folk a.k.a. African Americans. Those of us that are real to who we are as "brothers" for damn well know that shit is the real truth!!! We grew up with it our whole lives and know how to deal with it.

When have I not ever told the bottom line truth?


I don't think that's right, it's not actually a race thing, it's a YOUNG thing. I've seen a huge increase in young guys there of late from 4 years ago, it just
happens most happen to be black, but if young'uns be it white, latinos, Asian, or anything else found themselves there they too would be doing stupid shit.

[tarzan]

I haven't been there, so correct me if I'm wrong. Aren't the girls in Philippines working for the bars? If they are, then they know that you can go back and complain to the manager/mamasan. (kinda like Passions). And isn't prostitut ion completely illegal in Cuba? So obviously the chica isn't going to cause a commotion or run to a cop saying that she is involved in an illegal activity in a Communist country.


So comparing those two to Sosua where it is a completely open market isn't the same.

I've had my issues with a few chicas, but if you've had that many problems with the chicas, maybe you are attracted to crazy like I am??????

Maybe some guys need to realize that they are attracted to crazy? I know I am. And I believe that Sage has realized sometimes he finds crazy attractive. It isn't always just the chicas who are the only participating party in the issue.......


And philly...I think you've got issues with .'s and ,'s as well!!!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Yes, and No. Very hard to compare the girls from these two different cultures, they simply have a different mindset. Plenty of crazy in the Philippines as well
it's just a different kind of crazy. You can find many girls that will go see you after work, on day off, call out of work to see you, and those are just the ones
from the bars, you're rolling the dice seeing them this way, but here the odds are very much in your favor. I'd say the odds of a girl trying to get over on you
or steal from you or get you in trouble, is very very low, compared to Sosua where it's very high. That said, I love that whore village with the beach as well,
I have no plans to stop going there, just going a bit less. :wink:

[Al Nyc]

Currently in Sosua as I write this, last night D'Latin was pact and at some point, they stopped playing hip hop and started playing Latin music until a group of weekend warriors dressed in all white came in, one of them went over to the DJ booth and was allowed to sit right next to him, the next thing you know, the latin music stopped and it was back to hip hop. The weekend warriors are ruining Sosua. Oh I am an African American male who has been going to Sosua since 2006 and seen the changes. Don't get me wrong there are plenty of girls to be had, but the vibe is not the same. :(

[SeaWeed]

Hoping for this year. But I love that little whore village with the beach.
That's a lot of guys idea of a great monger destination.......it certainly is mine.......and mi got a month to go before mi back in Jamaica.....yah mon


...........

don't think Sosua is dead is any big surprise........writing was on the wall with the crackdowns etc.......there is life after Sosua afterall........lol

[bobbydrake]

I typically avoid these types of threads because it often goes down an uneccesary road but here we go.... Please, please, please quit all the belly aching. If you hate a place that much, then stop going...find another spot...and keep it moving. If my favorite restaurant changes chefs and goes downhill, then I find somewhere new. I don't continue to go for years and years and complain to anyone who will listen about how bad it is. Same principle with Sosua and/or the DR as a whole. Here's a little known tidbit of information...."Things change" Get over it or move on. At the very end of the day, Sosua is still a paradise with beautiful young women who are perfectly willing to sleep with your old, overweight, hairy, sweaty ass. I don't say that as some sort of insult (maybe just a little) but it's the truth. Constantly getting upset that some beautiful, exotic 22 year old would have the audacity to ask for more money than your liking is pathetic. If a chica quotes me something more than I'm willing to pay, I laugh her off and keep walking toward the next one. But speaking of more money, let's address what one of the other posters mentioned when it comes to exchange rates. I began going around 2007 when exchange rates were around 32-34 (many of you may have started before that when rates were even lower but I digress). Let's do a little math for the "I remember when chicas were 1,500 pesos" crowd:

Back in the day...
1,500 pesos/33.0(avg) = $45.45

Now they have the unmitigated gall to dare an ask for 2,000 or 2,500

2,000 pesos/43.0 = $46.51
2,500 pesos/43.0 = $58.13

So all of this belly aching and crying over approximately $12???? Twelve fucking dollars a night causes all of this whining? I remember when flights would cost me $250 - $325. Now I am paying $550 - $650 on average. Cab rides from my house to the airport cost more, parking at the airport costs more, a chicken sandwich in the airport costs more, everything has fucking gone up but we continue to go. But how dare a chica try to keep pace with inflation and take care of her family?!?! I bet that restaurant lunch with the co-workers back home is close to $12 and you dont give it another thought. But that damn third world bitch better know her place huh?

And let's talk about the Hip-Hop music and "Weekend Warriors" code speak that has ruined EVERYTHING! Once again...God forbid you have to deal with ANYTHING that is not to your liking. Put some beautiful sex-crazed Latin women in a country music bar somewhere and I'd be a Carrie Underwood listening fool. And while I agree that the ultra young, wife beater wearing, walk around like they own the place folks are a little annoying, I can still have the time of my life with MY friends or wingmen and pay little to no attention to others. I think they problem is some folks were accustomed to feeling like they OWNED the place and everyone there once upon a time, but now it ain't quite the same. Sounds like a familiar story....

[Al Nyc]

I typically avoid these types of threads because it often goes down an uneccesary road but here we go.... Please, please, please quit all the belly aching. If you hate a place that much, then stop going...find another spot...and keep it moving. If my favorite restaurant changes chefs and goes downhill, then I find somewhere new. I don't continue to go for years and years and complain to anyone who will listen about how bad it is. Same principle with Sosua and/or the DR as a whole. Here's a little known tidbit of information...."Things change" Get over it or move on. At the very end of the day, Sosua is still a paradise with beautiful young women who are perfectly willing to sleep with your old, overweight, hairy, sweaty ass. I don't say that as some sort of insult (maybe just a little) but it's the truth. Constantly getting upset that some beautiful, exotic 22 year old would have the audacity to ask for more money than your liking is pathetic. If a chica quotes me something more than I'm willing to pay, I laugh her off and keep walking toward the next one. But speaking of more money, let's address what one of the other posters mentioned when it comes to exchange rates. I began going around 2007 when exchange rates were around 32-34 (many of you may have started before that when rates were even lower but I digress). Let's do a little math for the "I remember when chicas were 1,500 pesos" crowd:

Back in the day...
1,500 pesos/33.0(avg) = $45.45

Now they have the unmitigated gall to dare an ask for 2,000 or 2,500

2,000 pesos/43.0 = $46.51
2,500 pesos/43.0 = $58.13

So all of this belly aching and crying over approximately $12???? Twelve fucking dollars a night causes all of this whining? I remember when flights would cost me $250 - $325. Now I am paying $550 - $650 on average. Cab rides from my house to the airport cost more, parking at the airport costs more, a chicken sandwich in the airport costs more, everything has fucking gone up but we continue to go. But how dare a chica try to keep pace with inflation and take care of her family?!?! I bet that restaurant lunch with the co-workers back home is close to $12 and you dont give it another thought. But that damn third world bitch better know her place huh?

And let's talk about the Hip-Hop music and "Weekend Warriors" code speak that has ruined EVERYTHING! Once again...God forbid you have to deal with ANYTHING that is not to your liking. Put some beautiful sex-crazed Latin women in a country music bar somewhere and I'd be a Carrie Underwood listening fool. And while I agree that the ultra young, wife beater wearing, walk around like they own the place folks are a little annoying, I can still have the time of my life with MY friends or wingmen and pay little to no attention to others. I think they problem is some folks were accustomed to feeling like they OWNED the place and everyone there once upon a time, but now it ain't quite the same. Sounds like a familiar story....

It's not about folks who were accustomed to feel like they owned the place, when i first went to Sosua back I 2006, I made it a point to learn the language, the culture and music. Did not try to impose my American culture on the island.Sosua is for everyone, including the WW crowd but I just wished they would learn to accept latin culture and music instead on imposing on it. Not to long ago, when Classico/Merengue and SosuaLife/Latinos were the top club, Bachata, Merengue fill the air on the street of Pedro Clisante st. Hip hop was rarely played. If you wanted to hear hip hop, you had to go across the street from Classico to The Winner Circle Bar. Today hip hop dominates the night life of Sosua. I don't hate hip hop, I like some at the right place and time. Like a strip club back in the states.But when I travel thousands of miles to tropical Latin America country the last thing I want to hear is hip hop. P.S. I would slit my throat if Country music dominated the scene in Sosua. LOL.:biggrin:

[JD426]

It's not about folks who were accustomed to feel like they owned the place, when i first went to Sosua back I 2006, I made it a point to learn the language, the culture and music. Did not try to impose my American culture on the island.Sosua is for everyone, including the WW crowd but I just wished they would learn to accept latin culture and music instead on imposing on it. Not to long ago, when Classico/Merengue and SosuaLife/Latinos were the top club, Bachata, Merengue fill the air on the street of Pedro Clisante st. Hip hop was rarely played. If you wanted to hear hip hop, you had to go across the street from Classico to The Winner Circle Bar. Today hip hop dominates the night life of Sosua. I don't hate hip hop, I like some at the right place and time. Like a strip club back in the states.But when I travel thousands of miles to tropical Latin America country the last thing I want to hear is hip hop. P.S. I would slit my throat if Country music dominated the scene in Sosua. LOL.:biggrin:





I salute you sir...Glad to see some people GET it..


I made a similar comparison a while ago.. but you said it much better..

I dont EXPECT bars to play Led Zep for me, or 80's Hair Band Rock, or whatever ROCK I like to listen to ( ie my comfort zone music)
and if they played 50's big band shit, or Line Dancing music or some country ass shit.. I would lose my effing mind too.
LOL

.. We do expect to hear TOP 40 type of shit , ok... and like Rihanna, Jay Lo , Pit Bull whatever, of course , Dance music.. the chicas love that shit too. It gets repetive also , but at least everyone can dance to it if you want to..

but when it all becomes about just ONE type of music being played for dudes who just cant step out of their "comfort zone" for even a little while,, then at some point it just gets annoying as fuck.

I never really even thought that I disliked Hip Hop, UNTIL i started visiting Sosua and had to endure that Genre of music being played non stop by the shittiest of SHITTY DJ's, up in Classicos, one song after the other, with NOONE , I mean not a single chica on the dance floor..
2 dudes , drunk as fuck, dancing with each other in their nice shorts and fancy sneakers . that shit was just embarassing to watch. Idont know what they do in D'Latin, and i dont care...they can have it.

[The Sage]

Come on now what you hear in Sosua is cronk not Hip Hop. Hip Hop runs the full gamut from rap to R&B. If they played a full range of Hip Hop along with a healthy dose of Latin music I wouldn't complain. What pisses me off is the total disdain some of the brothers have for Latin music, like "what the fuck they playing that shit for". The ignorance is pathetic.

[No Worries]

In my best Allen Iverson voice "Yall are talking about Music in Sosua? Music? Really? We're talking about Music?!!"

[MrHappy]

I'm probably going to take heat for this, but this is my observation. Anything over a seven that's getting clients on a regular basis is going to cost you a worry free 2000 pesos ($46 at the current exchange rate). Yeah , you can sometime negotiate them down to 1500. Only problem is they often will try to find a way to give you 75% of what they would have given you if you had paid the 2000.

Couple of factors involved here that I know most mongers don't give a shit about. The peso has devalued by 35% or so over the last five years. The average dominican's buying power has been reduced further by additional taxes and fuel increases. Bottom line is 1500 pesos doesn't go nearly as far as it did even 3 years ago. Last, but not least the town is awash in stupid gringo money. The more enterprising hoes can get paid 3000 ST on the regular. When I land one of those chicks at 2000 I view it has a bargain. If a girl can get more she's going to ask for more and it's her business so she should have the right to. There's deflation present in the cost of many things. Unfortunately pussy in Sosua isn't one of them.

Guys who once went to Brazil and watched the cost of sex go from $50 to $150 have the right to bitch. Guys going to Sosua who have experienced maybe a move from $41 to $46 (exchange rate adjusted) over the last three years for ST with a mid-high level quality chica really shouldn't be complaining.

Hey, I've watched the price of toto go from 200 to 2000! It's been at 1500 a little too long, and I'm not surprised to see it inching up. True, the WU's and WW's aren't helping things, but they are dumping a lot of money into the pot. Imagine what girls would be asking for if there were only a few guys around, what with the price of living and all.

Hell, the cost of the family canasta has risen to something like 20K a month over the last 8-20 years ago. The girls are still one of the better bargains you can still get.

[Shogun Warrior]

"So all of this belly aching and crying over approximately $12???? Twelve fucking dollars a night causes all of this whining? I remember when flights would cost me $250 - $325. Now I am paying $550 - $650 on average. Cab rides from my house to the airport cost more, parking at the airport costs more, a chicken sandwich in the airport costs more, everything has fucking gone up but we continue to go. But how dare a chica try to keep pace with inflation and take care of her family?!?! I bet that restaurant lunch with the co-workers back home is close to $12 and you dont give it another thought. But that damn third world bitch better know her place huh?"

Bobby Drake

Bullshit! What you are saying is the chicas expenses are going up? I have seen no evidence of that whatsoever! Please bring some validity to what you state. Please explain when the norm was $1500 then a jump to $2000 for about 2 hours worth of pleasure work is warranted. The Dominican pay did not increase at real jobs? Have the goods and services that chicas buy with their money gone up? Please explain how a hot piece of ass that makes almost $1000 a month from fucking and + who knows how much money the hoe has got coming in from WU suckers?! She got ends meeting like a motherfucker. Sorry dude, you preaching about a soft hearted inflated chica expense's "theory" that some chica suckered your ass with. The fact is the hoes are rocking Michael Kors and Dolce & Gabanna, I Phones and renting cars because they want it, not because they need it. Just step up to the bar and call yourself the CPT Save a Hoe in Residence that you are (and we now know who you are) and buy the bitch a double shot of Hennessy!

Chica Hotel Cost ___________
Salon Cost___________
Food __________
Drinks___________
Clothing__________
Cell Phone______________
Motoconcho____________


The food and the drinks are mostly paid for by the idiot gringos that approach them so??? Even when they buy it, the Food, Lodging and Transo is Dominican pricing so ????

[The Sage]

I've been going to Sosua and the surrounding areas since 2002. During that entire time with the exception of the crazy Hipolito period the ST price for tourists has remained in the range of $40 to $45 more or less. That's pretty damn amazing. Guys can complain about the atmosphere changing and the growing professionalism of the girls; however, there's no justification for complaining about the price of pussy. Even at 2000 pesos you're still paying essentially the same amount in dollars as we did in 2002.



Hey, I've watched the price of toto go from 200 to 2000! It's been at 1500 a little too long, and I'm not surprised to see it inching up. True, the WU's and WW's aren't helping things, but they are dumping a lot of money into the pot. Imagine what girls would be asking for if there were only a few guys around, what with the price of living and all.

Hell, the cost of the family canasta has risen to something like 20K a month over the last 8-20 years ago. The girls are still one of the better bargains you can still get.

[el_papi_chew_low]

What you are saying is the chicas expenses are going up? I have seen no evidence of that whatsoever! Weaves cost more, chicas are spending more on clothes and high heals so they can show other Sosua putas how much more money they are making, AND they are purchasing the newest Samsung Galaxies and Iphones instead of the little $10 Alcatel phones that they were happy with back in 2010.

My last trip to Sosua, a chica I was with told me all of the girls there make good money, even the ugly ones O_o

[Shogun Warrior]

Weaves cost more, chicas are spending more on clothes and high heals so they can show other Sosua putas how much more money they are making, AND they are purchasing the newest Samsung Galaxies and Iphones instead of the little $10 Alcatel phones that they were happy with back in 2010.

My last trip to Sosua, a chica I was with told me all of the girls there make good money, even the ugly ones O_o


These are the stupid chicas that are trying to impress another stupid hoe with materialistic shit vs putting food on the table and clothes on their children's backs??!!! Again, shit they want vs the shit they really need. To me, this all goes back to chica selection. That's why I rock 7 & 8s. Say again, who is paying the bitches this kind of money, thats right the weekend crew. What are the demographics of that weekend crew? BINGO! Stupid bastards can fuck up Sunday anywhere in the world!! The purses & the phones are real. They get them as gifts from the WU idiots as well. The girls hold up their $100 bills and their WU receipts and post them on Facebook. The shit is real to include the rented cars even at Dominican chica prices. What is even more real is when the price of gas for that rented car that kicks them in the ass. I for one am not paying for it. I ride in a publico taxi just like everyone else.

[deezl]

The fact is the hoes are rocking Michael Kors and Dolce & Gabanna,

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

They're rocking $20 MK & D&G knockoffs is what I think you meant to say.

Every other ho in Sosua has an MK bag - I don't think it's a stretch to suggest that not a single fucking one of them is the real thing.

[The Sage]

Guys don't seem to get this. Our price, frequent visitors and guys in the know, for an above standard quality chica is 2000 pesos. From what typically comes out a chica's month I'm led to believe that the WW price for ST is in the 2500 to 3000 peso range. Also, I do a lot of chicks in Sosua. Some of the prices guys here claim to have paid are pure bullshit.

[Apos]

I was in Sosua 2 months ago and I've been going to the DR many times a year for over 10 years. While things are definitely different they are mostly not worse. What I really miss though are the things that have changed and not for the better.

Yes, I miss the all too brief period period when drinks and a pack of cigs were under a dollar each and as others have pointed out when you adjust the dollar or peso for time most of the other stuff we're paying for is not much more than 10 years ago.

The beach was PACKED with chicas most days and Sunday was INSANE!

Food seemed cheaper but it may not have been or my tastes and budget have changed so I might be eating in more expensive places now. IMO there are more and better choices to eat now than ever before.

There were more places to meet up with chicas and there seemed to be more chicas to my liking. I'm not saying that there aren't enough or that you can't find chicas to your liking....but there seemed to be more in the past.

There were less restrictions. Chicas could and did approach you much more directly. You could smoke ANYWHERE or so it seemed. Nowadays I pretty much only smoke on vacation and can live with some minor restrictions but far less people smoke now and I sometimes catch a dirty look LOL.

The only music you used to hear was Dominican, or at least Latin. Now it's much more common to hear all kinds of other shit. It took me years to like and appreciate latin and Dominican music and I hate having to listen to the other crap that is being played.

I don't blame anyone; no one group, certainly not as some posters have stated or alluded too to, any race, colour, religious group or even younger people....but one poster nailed it when he said it was more about guys from wherever that can't deal with leaving their comfort zone and are essentially paying to have what they want played.

Things were a lot more relaxed feeling in the past. Less desperate and more of a party atmosphere. Far less pointless rules and much more of a "wild west" atmosphere that I found genuinely appealing.

All of this said Sosua is IMO just as good a value as in the past....it's just different.

I'm hoping and planning on branching out...finally, but it's difficult for me to leave the DR. Too many attachments and too many new to me places to explore.

I already spend more and more time away from Sosua and will be experiencing some other locales in the near future.

[Shogun Warrior]

Fellas need to be strong and demonstrate that you have a pair of balls and hold the line at $1500. What is the worst that can happen? She walks away? Cry me a fucking river,...then pick another one. Side step the large groups of people that make you feel "uncomfortable" and operate like a sniper. One by one. No need for VIP or bottle service. Just hold the line. When the bitches are dressed with all that bling just know some other sucker paid for it. I am not going to get in a long debate about what I or anyone else pays to fuck a 3rd world whore. What I will state is we are not in control of soo much. What we are in control of is what we will pay for some ass. Those that need,..........want. Those that have,.................control the market. You don't need pussy to live. You don't need "pussy" to enjoy a vacation, it just makes it better.

You don't need pussy, to eat, live, breathe, feed the family, go to school, buy food and clothing or rent cars or apartments. You need money for that. Women sell & rent their pussy to get those things. Why pay more in a 3rd world country where all the economic indicators are pointing towards paying less??

Ya'll remember my story about the hustler that that turned down my pocket change of a $35-$40 PESO handout and demanded $100 PESO. He still has not gotten one dime from me since his fucked upped demand in 2009 and he is still asking. Hennessey has been ran through how many times you think? Did she do anything different that any other hoe that I was fucking for $1200-$1500? Hells no!!! $2000 PESO for a run through hoe?? Please!!! Got my dick sucked right plenty and busted nuts like a big dawg buried deep in some good pussy everyday and night in Sosua holding the line at $1500 the whole time.

[bobbydrake]

Bobby Drake

Bullshit! What you are saying is the chicas expenses are going up? I have seen no evidence of that whatsoever! Please bring some validity to what you state. Please explain when the norm was $1500 then a jump to $2000 for about 2 hours worth of pleasure work is warranted. The Dominican pay did not increase at real jobs? Have the goods and services that chicas buy with their money gone up? Please explain how a hot piece of ass that makes almost $1000 a month from fucking and + who knows how much money the hoe has got coming in from WU suckers?! She got ends meeting like a motherfucker. Sorry dude, you preaching about a soft hearted inflated chica expense's "theory" that some chica suckered your ass with. The fact is the hoes are rocking Michael Kors and Dolce & Gabanna, I Phones and renting cars because they want it, not because they need it. Just step up to the bar and call yourself the CPT Save a Hoe in Residence that you are (and we now know who you are) and buy the bitch a double shot of Hennessy!

Chica Hotel Cost ___________
Salon Cost___________
Food __________
Drinks___________
Clothing__________
Cell Phone______________
Motoconcho____________


The food and the drinks are mostly paid for by the idiot gringos that approach them so??? Even when they buy it, the Food, Lodging and Transo is Dominican pricing so ????

First of all...settle your ass down. AGAIN...adjusting for the buying power of the dollar against the peso, you are now paying around $12 more. Your apparent anger over such an insignificant amount (considering the total cost of these vacations) is pretty pathetic. I have never had some chica give me a sob story, other than the typical "baby needs food" crap and I am faaaar from a CPT save-a-hoe. Treating them with some respect (I had to laugh to myself considering the things I do to them) and actually viewing them as a person has two major benefits to me and you may want to consider:
1) The average chica can sense when you have a level of respect for them and will typically reciprocate either in her price quote or performance (win/win in my book)
2) Makes my overall experience 10,000 X better than some folks who spend most of their time complaining about pennies.

I am by NO MEANS well off, but they day I start crying about a chica increase that equates to pennies spent for the experiences I've had over the past 7 years...is the day that I need to retire from mongering. And by the way...the 2,000 or 2,500 I'm talking about is for toda la noche NOT the 1-2 hour bullshit that you seem to be so upset about. I was trying to avoid going here but it's appears that it is necessary. I have personally observed a chica quoting one price to someone and 500-1500 less to someone else or myself. I do not pay 2,000 for an hour (never have and never will). Maybe the problem with some folks is that they are pissed about the prices THEY are being quoted. Instead of blaming the chicas, some folks need to take a look at themselves. I have sat in Rhumba's or D'Latins and spoken with chicas who have flat out refused to go with some folks. And taking a look at them, it is PERFECTLY clear why!

[bobbydrake]

Fellas need to be strong and demonstrate that you have a pair of balls and hold the line at $1500. What is the worst that can happen? She walks away? Cry me a fucking river,...then pick another one.

More macho bullshit! So let me get this straight. The only men with "BALLS" are those who hold firm to 1500? I'll take another angle....Demonstrate you have a pair of balls by not whinning over $10 bucks. I can't say this enough....ten fucking dollars!

And as for the WW's who are paying 3,000 or more...why blame them? Not everyone spends hours upon hours on this or other message boards in some grand attempt to price-fix the pussy market. If some "uninformed" dude takes a trip to a foreign land with his buddies and some hot young chica is offering the night of his life for $60...I would venture that MOST men would say yes in a heartbeat. So he didn't spend 8 weeks researching a message board and now he is the root of all the evil that has befallen Sosua huh? Let them do what they do and you do what you do. Personally my negotiating power has never been dictated by WW's but even if it had....I would find it pretty fucking stupid to pay double for airfare and everything else involved but get my panties in a wad over a $10 increase in pussy for the night.

[Shogun Warrior]

Sorry, your quote has "Pussy Whipped Bitch" all over it. I am staying on point. The issue was "Sosua is dead. How and Why?" The issue of price increases came up due to the actions of a group known as the Weekend Warriors. You get on a soapbox defending price increases with nothing substantial to support it other than; You think the chicas are entitled to it. Why because she wants to wear a nasty ass skanks ass weave??!!

Pull down your skirt, your panties are showing. Look up the word snitch and lo and behold your raggedy ass is right there too.............


Here he is fellas, served up on a platter. How many of you will be fucked over by this cocksucker? Remember I called it first..............................................and when have I been wrong?

[Hanzo]

Sorry, your quote has "Pussy Whipped Bitch" all over it. I am staying on point. The issue was "Sosua is dead. How and Why?" The issue of price increases came up due to the actions of a group known as the Weekend Warriors. You get on a soapbox defending price increases with nothing substantial to support it other than; You think the chicas are entitled to it. Why because she wants to wear a nasty ass skanks ass weave??!!

Pull down your skirt, your panties are showing.


I'm all for chica price increasing, frankly I don't think they charge enough. The fact that if I want to, I can get my dick wet with $1,000 pesos is silly to me, whenever I meet a bitch undervaluing her pussy I give her a big ass speech about how she's doing herself a disservice.

[bobbydrake]

Sorry, your quote has "Pussy Whipped Bitch" all over it. I am staying on point. The issue was "Sosua is dead. How and Why?" The issue of price increases came up due to the actions of a group known as the Weekend Warriors. You get on a soapbox defending price increases with nothing substantial to support it other than; You think the chicas are entitled to it. Why because she wants to wear a nasty ass skanks ass weave??!!

Pull down your skirt, your panties are showing. Look up the word snitch and lo and behold your raggedy ass is right there too.............


Here he is fellas, served up on a platter. How many of you will be fucked over by this cocksucker? Remember I called it first..............................................and when have I been wrong?

Ok...the internet name calling is a bit childish but to each his own. Let me ask this simple question...Why are you so mad? It clearly cannot be over a $10 increase in chica pussy price can it? Let's see: Mad at me for some reason although I have clearly stated that my TLN rates are around 2,000- 2,500 which is clearly less than average. Mad at WW and them choosing to have fun however they desire. Mad at hip-hop. Mad at D'Latins for playing hip-hop. Mad at the chicas for an insignificant increase. Mad at their, shall I quote "Nasty ass skanks ass weave". Mad at their FAKE Michael Kors bags. Mad at their FAKE Gucci bags. Mad at their attitudes. Did I miss anything???

I genuinely do not expect a civilized response, but if you are capable at all of a well reasoned response I sincerely look forward to the answer. In case you forgot..."Is all of this anger due to $10?"

[Shogun Warrior]

I'LL Bite


The anger lies at the feet of broke dick ass men that can't do anything but think with their dicks. We have/had the ability to control something that we enjoy. The pleasure of escaping the sex prison of the US and go to a male dominated country in which the man rules, in order to have a sex holiday. However, this same group was infiltrated by a larger group of SIMPS, snitches and pussy whipped broke-dicks that never had any pussy anywhere and they are well on their way to fucking up paradise. We don't control airline nor hotel rates. We can only be smart shoppers.

We discussed this many years ago and I did my best to defend this group but it is true, All true. The biggest culprits to the demise of Sosua are the Weekend African Americans from the East Coast. The Jet Black crew. And your bitch ass wants to defend a price increase of $10. I can control that. I choose not to pay that. Do the math yourself and see what $1500 per gets the chica in a week. What you seem to support is the chica should only have to fuck 1 time ($100.00) and then be good financially for the rest of the week. In a 3rd world country? I am not buying into that bullshit and fuck you and the horse you rode in on if you think I should. When Dominicans start paying that price then I might consider it. Till then, hello Thailand!

[Rubicon]

Gas has gone up .08% a gallon just this past week. Goddamnit!
What?! Beef, butter, and milk is going up 3% due to the drought in California? Motherfucker!
These fucking politicians want to increase the sin tax 1.5% in order to pay for the shit they didn't pay for with the last increase? Throw the bastards out of office.

Huh? A 3rd world ho has increased her prices 25%? What's the problem? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

AMAZING the influence that pussy tends to have over some guys' thinking.

[Dick Dawson]

No need for the personal attacks, folks. We've had this discussion many times in the past without them.

[DCIronman]

I've been going to Sosua and the surrounding areas since 2002. During that entire time with the exception of the crazy Hipolito period the ST price for tourists has remained in the range of $40 to $45 more or less. That's pretty damn amazing. Guys can complain about the atmosphere changing and the growing professionalism of the girls; however, there's no justification for complaining about the price of pussy. Even at 2000 pesos you're still paying essentially the same amount in dollars as we did in 2002.
Exactly. And those of us that have been going to the DR for a while know this. Granted, there have always been guys who will have to pay more.

[whynotme]

I do not travel and spend time on planes hotels and food to turn down a good looking piece of ass for 10 bucks or even a hundred bucks

its my fucking money I earned it and I will fucking spend it on who what and where I want


prices the world over have done nothing but increase and sosua is no exception.
if you think going to Thailand you will be paying the same as the thais pay you are drastically naïve
natives pay less than tourists do everywhere



Sorry, your quote has "Pussy Whipped Bitch" all over it. I am staying on point. The issue was "Sosua is dead. How and Why?" The issue of price increases came up due to the actions of a group known as the Weekend Warriors. You get on a soapbox defending price increases with nothing substantial to support it other than; You think the chicas are entitled to it. Why because she wants to wear a nasty ass skanks ass weave??!!

Pull down your skirt, your panties are showing. Look up the word snitch and lo and behold your raggedy ass is right there too.............


Here he is fellas, served up on a platter. How many of you will be fucked over by this cocksucker? Remember I called it first..............................................and when have I been wrong?

this time will be your first then


I'LL Bite


The anger lies at the feet of broke dick ass men that can't do anything but think with their dicks. We have/had the ability to control something that we enjoy. The pleasure of escaping the sex prison of the US and go to a male dominated country in which the man rules, in order to have a sex holiday. However, this same group was infiltrated by a larger group of SIMPS, snitches and pussy whipped broke-dicks that never had any pussy anywhere and they are well on their way to fucking up paradise. We don't control airline nor hotel rates. We can only be smart shoppers.

We discussed this many years ago and I did my best to defend this group but it is true, All true. The biggest culprits to the demise of Sosua are the Weekend African Americans from the East Coast. The Jet Black crew. And your bitch ass wants to defend a price increase of $10. I can control that. I choose not to pay that. Do the math yourself and see what $1500 per gets the chica in a week. What you seem to support is the chica should only have to fuck 1 time ($100.00) and then be good financially for the rest of the week. In a 3rd world country? I am not buying into that bullshit and fuck you and the horse you rode in on if you think I should. When Dominicans start paying that price then I might consider it. Till then, hello Thailand!

we are less than 1% of the mongers and we will never be able to control pussy prices and if you think you can then start a union and collect dues and see what happens:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Mr. Smooth]

Shogun, I can really appreciate your passion about this. For the longest time, I have been a member of the "a chica is worth exactly whatever a guy is willing to pay her" school of thought. Deciding what to pay when it comes to offering a chica compensation for services rendered is always, "up to you", as they say in Thailand. Some guys are better negotiators than others, some say "fuck it, I want that snatch no matter what", and therein lies the gray area of what defines "fairness, value, overpaying, underpaying, being a "cheap charlie", etc..."

All of us men who venture off to these far off lands, we all have the power over when and what and how much we want to spend on whatever commodity we wish to have. And thats what pussy is, it's a commodity. The problem is, we all don't share the same definition of what determines value. It is an open question and always will be.

You mentioned going to Thailand. Buddy....gotta tell ya, that joint has gone up BIGTIME over the years. My first time there was '94. A barfine was 150 baht, an all nighter was 1000 baht, oftentimes less, like 800 baht. The exchange rate was around 40 to 1. Man, I was in hog heaven! My last trip in December, bf's at the typical gogo bar was upwards of 1000 baht. The fucking barfine!!!! Otherwise, at a regular outdoor beerbar, the standard fee is 300 baht and ladies will usually want no less than 1500 baht for an all nighter. The exchange rate now is right around 31 to 1. Yes, it has gone up quite a lot over the years.

Whynotme, we've disagreed about a few things over the years, but on this, he is right on the money. Hell, he fucking LIVES there 2-3 months a year with all his trips every year. He knows of what he speaks.

In the end, you can only control what YOU do, no matter what advice you might offer to another guy. I know, I've done it enough, both on the board and in person. I always have to remember my own situation. I'm earning more at my job than I was back in the 90's or early 2000's. The market is always changing due to a number of factors beyond our own individual control. And the market for pussy is no exception.

It is always up to us to adapt.

[greydread]

Just to throw in a little perspective, I don't have to travel very far to watch Guys spend hundreds in the course of two hours at a strip club and hope it's not too late to roll the old bag over when he gets home because he sure as shit won't be fucking any of those strippers.

There is just no use in trying to tell another Guy how much a shot of Punani should be worth to him. I have never paid too much for the Pum-Pum. I think that my record high was around $300 in Sint Maarten for a Colombian whom I could've probably spent $600 to fly to Cali and fucked her, her Mother and all her Sisters and Primas. She was there, she looked good to me, I got her for the night and she fucked me into the fetal position with my thumb in my mouth when she was done.

Money well spent.

[Irie]

Just to throw in a little perspective, I don't have to travel very far to watch Guys spend hundreds in the course of two hours at a strip club and hope it's not too late to roll the old bag over when he gets home because he sure as shit won't be fucking any of those strippers.

There is just no use in trying to tell another Guy how much a shot of Punani should be worth to him. I have never paid too much for the Pum-Pum. I think that my record high was around $300 in Sint Maarten for a Colombian whom I could've probably spent $600 to fly to Cali and fucked her, her Mother and all her Sisters and Primas. She was there, she looked good to me, I got her for the night and she fucked me into the fetal position with my thumb in my mouth when she was done.

Money well spent.


your optimism in the task at hand is surely astounding to some. :rolleyes:


:rofl::rofl::rofl:



(cosign paragraph two.......preach on)

[DMV]

It's your money so spend it how you want
I'm here for only 3 days so I don't have time or care to negotiate
I came to make it rain


whatevery you pay it's on you, but stop, stop stop this BS of trying to relate hos asking for more money to the pesos vs the dollar or whatever legal tender you use. I've been doing this for a while and Hos have always wanted more money.

Hos are getting more money because, guys are paying more money, period. We raised the price, we set the price. Sosua is Sosua.

Also 500 pesos isn't 12 dollars it's 500 pesos. Get dollars out your mind. When I deal with Hos I'm thinking about pesos and I know the value of 500 pesos.

[The Sage]

I let money get in the way a few trips back. I chased off a look alike for Jasmine in Disney's Aladdin because she wanted 4000 pesos, which was about $95, a day and I only wanted to pay her 3,000 daily. Baby was keeping me straight (as in not letting me get drunk), fucking me like I was her long gone sailor husband that hadn't seen her in 4 months, was staying with me literally 18 hours out of the day, and making cats absolutely envious. Not enough for me, I got all pissy over $24. It was one of the more idiotic things I did last year. The next day I came to my senses only to find out she had already left to return to SDQ. I think I spent $150 dollars a day over the next few days holding auditions for her replacement which I never found, but I won the cost showdown. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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[Al Nyc]

I've been going to Sosua and the surrounding areas since 2002. During that entire time with the exception of the crazy Hipolito period the ST price for tourists has remained in the range of $40 to $45 more or less. That's pretty damn amazing. Guys can complain about the atmosphere changing and the growing professionalism of the girls; however, there's no justification for complaining about the price of pussy. Even at 2000 pesos you're still paying essentially the same amount in dollars as we did in 2002.

2002, was Classico around or was High Caribbean the top night spot? :confused:

[The Sage]

High Caribe was the only tourist type disco in town at the time. Believe me it was more than enough.



2002, was Classico around or was High Caribbean the top night spot? :confused:

[hugrad95a]

I let money get in the way a few trips back. I chased off a look alike for Jasmine in Disney's Aladdin because she wanted 4000 pesos, which was about $95, a day and I only wanted to pay her 3,000 daily. Baby was keeping me straight (as in not letting me get drunk), fucking me like I was her long gone sailor husband that hadn't seen her in 4 months, was staying with me literally 18 hours out of the day, and making cats absolutely envious. Not enough for me, I got all pissy over $24. It was one of the more idiotic things I did last year. The next day I came to my senses only to find out she had already left to return to SDQ. I think I spent $150 dollars a day over the next few days holding auditions for her replacement which I never found, but I won the cost showdown. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Some dudes have a budget and refuse to move from it. Here is the problem with the scenario. With her staying with you 18 hours you would be paying more than just 4000. Meaning I'm sure she is going to be eating and drinking like you may do. If your feeding her factor another 30 dollars for the day for her unless you just staying in the room and eating and drinking your own food. Most dudes may not rent apts and if you are keeping her then you are taking care of her expenses while she is with you. So factor in another 1500 on top of the 4k that you are giving her. So that 4k became a daily expense of potentially 5,500. I can understand why some dudes are so strict with what they give the chicas because there are additional underlying expenses.

1000 to 2000 is usually the range for ST. Some guys pay more some pay less.

2-2.5K is reasonable for a TLN for average chick
3500 TLN for a top notch Chica is also more than fair.

Some guys pay more some pay less...

[The Sage]

This one was really cool. She drank very little and only ate with me late at night. We weren't eating off the truck, but she'd only order chicken dishes. When I first met her she was in Rumba. We cut a deal for 2K, went back to the apartment, and came up for air 3 hours later. I offered her another 2K to spend the night. I needed more of that and the way she went at it during the first session I knew she was a "you got an erection I'll take care of that for you" chick. What got me was that she didn't ask for the first installment she had already earned. She took me on my word I was going to pay her what I promised. We were together 2 days. On both days we sessioned early evening, went to the D'Latin, followed by Copa around 1:30 am for a bite to eat, then fuck from 2:30 until around 4, go to sleep, and wake up around 1:00 pm. Once up she got dressed and went to take care of her business. Second day like the first we hooked up at Rumba around 6 pm. Wash and repeat. My thinking is the longer you stay with me the less I pay I explained this to her and paid her 3.5K for the second day. She wasn't particularly happy about this which led to our conversation about price on the third day. I wanted to pay 3K. She wanted 4K. I wouldn't budge and neither would she. Based on my usual shenanigans I would have saved probably $75 a day if I'd have kept her around. Trust me it was my loss. She was a fresh breath of air, bella, simpatica, madura, y una diabla en la cama. That's a combination that's not easily found in Sosua. I should have paid the girl. Based on her skill set she really wasn't asking for too much.



Some dudes have a budget and refuse to move from it. Here is the problem with the scenario. With her staying with you 18 hours you would be paying more than just 4000. Meaning I'm sure she is going to be eating and drinking like you may do. If your feeding her factor another 30 dollars for the day for her unless you just staying in the room and eating and drinking your own food. Most dudes may not rent apts and if you are keeping her then you are taking care of her expenses while she is with you. So factor in another 1500 on top of the 4k that you are giving her. So that 4k became a daily expense of potentially 5,500. I can understand why some dudes are so strict with what they give the chicas because there are additional underlying expenses.

1000 to 2000 is usually the range for ST. Some guys pay more some pay less.

2-2.5K is reasonable for a TLN for average chick
3500 TLN for a top notch Chica is also more than fair.

Some guys pay more some pay less...

[camaro1257]

This one was really cool. She drank very little and only ate with me late at night. We weren't eating off the truck, but she'd only order chicken dishes. When I first met her she was in Rumba. We cut a deal for 2K, went back to the apartment, and came up for air 3 hours later. I offered her another 2K to spend the night. I needed more of that and the way she went at it during the first session I knew she was a "you got an erection I'll take care of that for you" chick. What got me was that she didn't ask for the first installment she had already earned. She took me on my word I was going to pay her what I promised. We were together 2 days. On both days we sessioned early evening, went to the D'Latin, followed by Copa around 1:30 am for a bite to eat, then fuck from 2:30 until around 4, go to sleep, and wake up around 1:00 pm. Once up she got dressed and went to take care of her business. Second day like the first we hooked up at Rumba around 6 pm. Wash and repeat. My thinking is the longer you stay with me the less I pay I explained this to her and paid her 3.5K for the second day. She wasn't particularly happy about this which led to our conversation about price on the third day. I wanted to pay 3K. She wanted 4K. I wouldn't budge and neither would she. Based on my usual shenanigans I would have saved probably $75 a day if I'd have kept her around. Trust me it was my loss. She was a fresh breath of air, bella, simpatica, madura, y una diabla en la cama. That's a combination that's not easily found in Sosua. I should have paid the girl. Based on her skill set she really wasn't asking for too much.

You are probably right. If she gave you 2 separate intense sessions at different times in the day evening and night what she wanted was probably fair, especially in the light of Paisas in Panama, Costa Rica and Medellin often wanting the equivalent of $100.00 for ST. I too have been stubborn and let a good one get away...

[hugrad95a]

I guess you should have split the difference and gave her 3.5k. But I do the same thing sometimes

[Shogun Warrior]

The vibe of going to the "disco" and dancing to a mixture of hip hop & latin music is lost. What is the very most disturbing is that that those that want Classico's to open can do it on any given night by just forming a line at the door. Free entrance included. The laid back feel is gone also due to the closed in club/bar environment imposed by local government. No more tables on the sidewalks. More westernized, more commercial that focuses on appealing to the hip-hop crowd and the music that comes with that.

[The Sage]

The sessions with her were so intense that the first three times we literally had to change the sheets when we were done. The forth time I said fuck it and put a beach towel over the sheets so as to not have to soil them. Sex with her was like a near death experience. In this regard I have two regulars in Sosua now who I cringe at the thought of seeing because I'm convinced that one of those little hoes is going to cause my death by coitus. It's simply amazing how much sexual energy and power a 5'4" 120lb woman can generate. :rofl::rofl::rofl:



You are probably right. If she gave you 2 separate intense sessions at different times in the day evening and night what she wanted was probably fair, especially in the light of Paisas in Panama, Costa Rica and Medellin often wanting the equivalent of $100.00 for ST. I too have been stubborn and let a good one get away...

[tgunz]

Sosua is not Dead! Its Changed! How you feel about the change is a reflection of your likes and dislikes. Ask a weekend warrior if they like the change. Ask yourself if you think a weekend warrior would like the same Sosua you like years back. The weekend Warriors Numbers and spending habits are more powerful than budget mongers. Thats why we have the current climate that we do. A lot of guys complain about the new breed of mongers. From what I notice these girls do not seem to mind hanging out with a bunch of young, usually fit, free spirited young men. The younger people of the dominican republic love american culture. especally hip hop culture!

Alot of guys here are not willing to pay the 100$ cover charge to fuck some of sosuas finest. Alot of weekend warriors are not willing to pay to fuck your "7's." I understand beauty is a matter of preferance. But the majority speaks. Alot of girls have a line of guys waiting to fuck them. And a lot of girls are "low hanging fruit." if you dont understand it. Pm Camaro.. lol

I believe Sosua is big enough to accomadate everybody! The more mongers on the ground the better it is for everybody. Hopefully sosua can find a nice balance! I believe the future is bright. If You dont like it, its so easy to visit somewhere else!

As long as there is a beach, and cold pesidentes, I will be there. I can import my chicas and blend in with any crowd!

[camaro1257]

The sessions with her were so intense that the first three times we literally had to change the sheets when we were done. The forth time I said fuck it and put a beach towel over the sheets so as to not have to soil them. Sex with her was like a near death experience. In this regard I have two regulars in Sosua now who I cringe at the thought of seeing because I'm convinced that one of those little hoes is going to cause my death by coitus. It's simply amazing how much sexual energy and power a 5'4" 120lb woman can generate. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

...PLEASE PM me her number ...I would be like Martin "I think I love her and want her to be m novia...:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[camaro1257]

And a lot of girls are "low hanging fruit." if you dont understand it. Pm Camaro.. lol


...no de papaya en Sosua...:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[tgunz]

...PLEASE PM me her number ...I would be like Martin "I think I love her and want her to be m novia...:rofl::rofl::rofl:

You forgot to slip the work cock in somewhere.. lol

[greydread]

You forgot to slip the work cock in somewhere.. lol

Broken or otherwise. I keep thinking of Harry Reams in Deep throat with his dick in a bandage. :rofl:

Some funny shit around here.....

[Al Nyc]

Sosua is not Dead! Its Changed! How you feel about the change is a reflection of your likes and dislikes. Ask a weekend warrior if they like the change. Ask yourself if you think a weekend warrior would like the same Sosua you like years back. The weekend Warriors Numbers and spending habits are more powerful than budget mongers. Thats why we have the current climate that we do. A lot of guys complain about the new breed of mongers. From what I notice these girls do not seem to mind hanging out with a bunch of young, usually fit, free spirited young men. The younger people of the dominican republic love american culture. especally hip hop culture!

Alot of guys here are not willing to pay the 100$ cover charge to fuck some of sosuas finest. Alot of weekend warriors are not willing to pay to fuck your "7's." I understand beauty is a matter of preferance. But the majority speaks. Alot of girls have a line of guys waiting to fuck them. And a lot of girls are "low hanging fruit." if you dont understand it. Pm Camaro.. lol

I believe Sosua is big enough to accomadate everybody! The more mongers on the ground the better it is for everybody. Hopefully sosua can find a nice balance! I believe the future is bright. If You dont like it, its so easy to visit somewhere else!

As long as there is a beach, and cold pesidentes, I will be there. I can import my chicas and blend in with any crowd!

A lot of weekend warriors are not wiling to pay to fuck your "7s"? Was in Sosua from Tues 22 till yesterday, saw plenty of WW hooking up with gorditas, below "7s". Another thing I noticed over the years, the increasing numbers of gorditas on the strip in Sosua. I guess the gorditas knows a lot of brothers will go for them. I am one black male who will never pay for a gordita.:confused:

[tgunz]

A lot of weekend warriors are not wiling to pay to fuck your "7s"? Was in Sosua from Tues 22 till yesterday, saw plenty of WW hooking up with gorditas, below "7s". Another thing I noticed over the years, the increasing numbers of gorditas on the strip in Sosua. I guess the gorditas knows a lot of brothers will go for them. I am one black male who will never pay for a gordita.:confused:

You got to take the good with the bad... but yes. A lot of w.w. of also fucking monstracities... but I know you not try to argue generally the "superstars" are being fucked by W.W. Guys fucking "superstars" are not travelling to fuck an at best "average" chic.

Guys sound mad that they have been priced out of the prime time market. Imo.

[Al Nyc]

You got to take the good with the bad... but yes. A lot of w.w. of also fucking monstracities... but I know you not try to argue generally the "superstars" are being fucked by W.W. Guys fucking "superstars" are not travelling to fuck an at best "average" chic.

Guys sound mad that they have been priced out of the prime time market. Imo.

I see your point. But the thing that infuriates me is when these Gorditas who would ignore or bypass non black mongers and head straight towards me and try to sell herself on me like because I'm a black man, I'm supposed to like a girl with some meat on her. A lot of brothers may go for that but I don't. Don't get me wrong I've banged couple of fatties in my life but thats back in the states for free.:corky:

[The Sage]

I've mastered this look, delivered with a sly smile, that says "are you fucking crazy.....why would I want to do that". They tend to leave me alone after that.



I see your point. But the thing that infuriates me is when these Gorditas who would ignore or bypass non black mongers and head straight towards me and try to sell herself on me like because I'm a black man, I'm supposed to like a girl with some meat on her. A lot of brothers may go for that but I don't. Don't get me wrong I've banged couple of fatties in my life but thats back in the states for free.:corky:

[tgunz]

I see your point. But the thing that infuriates me is when these Gorditas who would ignore or bypass non black mongers and head straight towards me and try to sell herself on me like because I'm a black man, I'm supposed to like a girl with some meat on her. A lot of brothers may go for that but I don't. Don't get me wrong I've banged couple of fatties in my life but thats back in the states for free.:corky:

LMFAO!!!!

[JD426]

I've mastered this look, delivered with a sly smile, that says "are you fucking crazy.....why would I want to do that". They tend to leave me alone after that.


This kind of a Look ?


LOL

[BigLongBeach]

I see your point. But the thing that infuriates me is when these Gorditas who would ignore or bypass non black mongers and head straight towards me and try to sell herself on me like because I'm a black man, I'm supposed to like a girl with some meat on her. A lot of brothers may go for that but I don't. Don't get me wrong I've banged couple of fatties in my life but thats back in the states for free.:corky:


FML LOL

The last highlight is key to my thoughts on this issue.

I argue that 95% of the WW's arent mongers. They are just dudes that want some pussy on vacation and willing to pay for it. I feel that it is fair to say that most mongers pay for pussy that they cant get at home. WW's since are there to party and they heard that you can get a girlfriend for a few days they go for women that they can get at home.

[natmatt]

Man, you guys are killing the WW........

Well, I am one of them........ but, I hit Santiago whenever I can get a pretty reasonable ticket....

I was there at the beginning of this month and managed to have a nice time in the cabana with
four chicas......

[tgunz]

FML LOL

The last highlight is key to my thoughts on this issue.

I argue that 95% of the WW's arent mongers. They are just dudes that want some pussy on vacation and willing to pay for it. I feel that it is fair to say that most mongers pay for pussy that they cant get at home. WW's since are there to party and they heard that you can get a girlfriend for a few days they go for women that they can get at home.


Agreed...but it's a gradual process over to the darkside.... lol :)

[Seville]

It is all "eye of the beholder". 80% of the chicas I see with a WW I would not fuck for free, in the states, at my age, tomorrow. Those were the fat girls that nobody wanted to fuck back in the day. Honestly, when pictures are posted of these phat ass chicas that are considered "top shelf" and commanding 4000 pesos it is difficult to contain my laughter. Why the hell would anyone pay all that money for air and hotel to go to a different country and pay to fuck fat girls that, back in the states, are basically the leftovers?

Eye of the Beholder.

[SeaWeed]

It is all "eye of the beholder". 80% of the chicas I see with a WW I would not fuck for free, in the states, at my age, tomorrow. Those were the fat girls that nobody wanted to fuck back in the day. Honestly, when pictures are posted of these phat ass chicas that are considered "top shelf" and commanding 4000 pesos it is difficult to contain my laughter. Why the hell would anyone pay all that money for air and hotel to go to a different country and pay to fuck fat girls that, back in the states, are basically the leftovers?
mi concur......it's mi biggest complaint mi have with guys.......mi just shake mi head......
especially the ones that dish out $100+US......absolutely drives mi nuts.......

one phat ass last Winter told mi she got $150US from an American.....that chit kills mi.....
personally mi never could fuck her......and as dem say "let dead dogs lay"..........

[tarrantino]

mi concur......it's mi biggest complaint mi have with guys.......mi just shake mi head......
especially the ones that dish out $100+US......absolutely drives mi nuts.......

one phat ass last Winter told mi she got $150US from an American.....that chit kills mi.....
personally mi never could fuck her......and as dem say "let dead dogs lay"..........

WHY does it drive you nuts that a chica occasionally makes a lucky strike? IF they really got what they said they got. Many of them lie. These are not rich women. They live by their wits and their pussy. As long as it is not your money, why deny them??????

There is still many chicas that will roll for 1000p or 1500p. Some will stay all night and give a morning service for that. Sosua is still a great little whore town.

[SeaWeed]

WHY does it drive you nuts that a chica occasionally makes a lucky strike?
no matter where you are mongering........it throws a wrench into the pay scale if the hooker(s) think they can get this kind of money......
second is plain stupid to even pick some overweight chica with hole so big that you can fall into....and you can't even feel anything when you're fucking phat gurls anyways...lol

[Jimmydr]

no matter where you are mongering........it throws a wrench into the pay scale if the hooker(s) think they can get this kind of money......
second is plain stupid to even pick some overweight chica with hole so big that you can fall into....and you can't even feel anything when you're fucking phat gurls anyways...lol

I will be happy with getting the ones starting out and they can move up the pay ranks. Next!

[Jimmydr]

WHY does it drive you nuts that a chica occasionally makes a lucky strike? IF they really got what they said they got. Many of them lie. These are not rich women. They live by their wits and their pussy. As long as it is not your money, why deny them??????

There is still many chicas that will roll for 1000p or 1500p. Some will stay all night and give a morning service for that. Sosua is still a great little whore town.

It doesnt bother me either.

[Jimmydr]

Fellas I've been visiting Sosua for about 3 years now and during my last visit I felt that things were at their worst.

Why do I feel this way?


1. 1. Every night, there was at least one fight in either D’latins, rhumba or after 1. On my last night in sosua (a Saturday night) I observed 2 fights in rhumba, 1 in d’latins and 1 at after one. Fellas, im down there on vacation, to relax and have a good time. Not to be around people who are acting like animals. In the past I never use to observe this many fights duing my trips.



. 2. the chicas are asking for a lot more money but they are putting in a lot less work. For example, in the hotel that I was staying at, a chica give this dude a handjob and then demanded that he pays her 3,000 pesos. She threatened to call the police unless he payed her that amount. Eventually she accepted 1500 for the hand job. WTF is that. One of the dudes that I was hanging with told me that he took a girl back to his place and when she got there she told him that her stomach hurts and that she could not fuck but was still asking him to give her some pesos. If she knew that she had stomach pains from her period why didn’t she just keep her ass at home instead of trying to hustle that dude out of his pesos.


3. 3. Some dudes down in sosua are acting reckless and are posting pictures and videos all over Youtube. Now the girls are getting access to this stuff and are not allowing us to take pictures and videos as much as we use to. A chica even told me herself that she got this dude in trouble with the police because he posted naked pictures of her on the internet.



4. 4. Way to many SIMPS and WU guys. The girls are getting so much money from WU now, that they will walk away before you during a negotiation. I even had one refused to accept 1500pesos for 2hours at 5:30 in the morning. She walked away and did not even look back. She demanded that I pay 2000 for 2hours at 5:30 in the morning. WTF.


5. 5. Is it me…it seems like there is less girls around. After one is usually pack on Saturday nights but it felt like it was a weekday when I was there on a Saturday night. In addition, I kept on seeing the same faces aroud Monday-Thursday and most of those faces I’ve been seeing for the past few years and have not had any urge to go after them.

6. There is not a lot of girls around that are 8's, 9's and 10's. Very few 9's and 10's and a couple of 8's.




Fellas, what’s your opinion on how sosua is changing. Is it time to head over to Medellin, Thailand or AC and say goodbye to Sosua?

We cover many other areas, but sadly about 10% of membership can only flurish in Sosua for some reason.

[greydread]

We cover many other areas, but sadly about 10% of membership can only flurish in Sosua for some reason.

If you choose to call what they do "flourishing".

Most of the Guys I've known to "flourish" will create the same outcome no matter where they are.

[The Sage]

Absolutely. I choose to go almost exclusively to Sosua because it's fairly close, I consistently can get what I want, I like the laid back atmosphere, and I like partying there. When I go to TJ I don't miss a beat. I feast off the street hoes and the girls in Aldelitas. Never have a problem pulling what I want. I'm sure it would be the same in any whore location frequented by board members.



If you choose to call what they do "flourishing".

Most of the Guys I've known to "flourish" will create the same outcome no matter where they are.

[camaro1257]

http://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=15252

A 19 year old Sosua chica apparently damaged a cell phone and assaulted a Canandian and was subsequently arrested. Tenga cuidado amigos!

[Seville]

http://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=15252

A 19 year old Sosua chica apparently damaged a cell phone and assaulted a Canandian and was subsequently arrested. Tenga cuidado amigos!

She might spend a night or two in jail then she will be released. It seems that in most cases that unless there is some money to be had criminals suffer few consequences for their actions. You think she will be paying a lawyer a few thousand dollars? And then paying the victim a few thousand more in order to secure her release? Think she will be held until that happens?

Not a chance.

[JD426]

She might spend a night or two in jail then she will be released. It seems that in most cases that unless there is some money to be had criminals suffer few consequences for their actions. You think she will be paying a lawyer a few thousand dollars ? And then paying the victim a few thousand more in order to secure her release? Think she will be held until that happens?

Not a chance.

You forgot to say "... like a GRINGO would have to 100% of the time ".... just in case it might be unclear to a Newbie who thinks you just comparing well off dominicans to poor dominicans ...

[MrHappy]

She might spend a night or two in jail then she will be released. It seems that in most cases that unless there is some money to be had criminals suffer few consequences for their actions. You think she will be paying a lawyer a few thousand dollars? And then paying the victim a few thousand more in order to secure her release? Think she will be held until that happens?

Not a chance.

The way it works down here, they spend a few nights in that standing room only no toilet holding cell. That's enough to make them think twice before they do something stupid again.

[Apos]

We cover many other areas, but sadly about 10% of membership can only flurish in Sosua for some reason.

I don't think it's sad.

Especially considering that many, many more venture out to other areas of the DR and many other countries.


I 'm looking for a retirement spot, and have read extensively and spoken with many who are more widely traveled than I. The underlying theme, at least for those that have been to the DR and Sosua specifically, and even more so for those that find a decent beach essential, is that they have not found anywhere better than Sosua as a whole package.

Many love the Philippines but not to live in. Lots love Thailand...but again not to live full time. Tons love Colombia, especially Medellin.....but I don't even want to visit...no beach AND a big fucking city. No thanks.

Most places in Europe are now too expensive and/or lacking appreciative chicas....next
Most other places in Asia, SE Asia, etc...are either too 3rd world and lacking in amenities, can't learn the language or for other reasons not on my list.
North America and Australia....not gonna happen.

So it's down to "somewhere" in the Caribbean or someplace similar with the climate and close beach that I want.

Jamaica?
Turks and Caicos?
Belize?
Somewhere in Central or South america?

Got to be relatively safe, monger friendly, warm and with a beach no more than 15 minutes away.


In the end...at this time at least, if I were to retire tomorrow it would be to the DR and close if not in Sosua.

What's sad about that? lol :lol:

(That's a rhetorical question in case anyone missed it :rolleyes::p:rofl:)

[SeaWeed]

I am looking for a retirement spot, and have read extensively and spoken with many who are more widely traveled than I.
Jamaica?
Turks and Caicos?
Belize?
Somewhere in Central or South america?


last weekend I ran into a couple guys around 70 years old and they had traveled and lived in a lot of places..
but primarily Costa Rica and Panama....one of them liked Panama the best...the other one likes Florida the best.....
they didn't like Costa Rica at all....one lived there for 3 years....he couldn't wait to leave...had to sell his house first
think one said he lived in Belize too.......but he didn't say much about it......
one had been to Jamaica for a long weekend and liked it.....but never got back to check it out more
so here both of them live here in St Petersburg, FL........guess relatively cheap living American wise....
but wi all need dat pussy......and there is no way of getting dat cheap pussy here.........ha ha

[Mr. Smooth]

I don't think it's sad.

Especially considering that many, many more venture out to other areas of the Dr and many other countries.


I am looking for a retirement spot, and have read extensively and spoken with many who are more widely traveled than I. The underlying theme, at least for those that have been to the DR and Sosua specifically, and even more so for those that find a decent beach essential, is that mthey have not found anywhere better than Sosua as a whole package.

Many love the Philippines but not to live in. Lots love Thailand...but again not to live full time. Tons love Colombia, especially Medellin.....but I don't even want to visit...no beach AND a big fucking city. No thanks.

Most places in Europe are now too expensive and/or lacking appreciative chicas....next
Most other places in Asia, SE asia, etc...are either too 3rd world and lacking in amenities, can't learn the language or for other reasons not on my list.
North America and Australia....not gonna happen.

So it's down to "somewhere" in the Caribbean or someplace similar with the climate and close beach that I want.

Jamaica?
Turks and Caicos?
Belize?
Somewhere in Central or South america?

Got to be relatively safe, monger friendly, warm and with a beach no more than 15 minutes away.


In the end...at this time at least, if I were to retire tomorrow it would be to the DR and close if not in Sosua.

What's sad about that? lol :lol:

(That's a rhetorical question in case anyone missed it :rolleyes::p:rofl:)

Years ago I was figuring that Thailand, specifically Pattaya, would become my fulltime retirement home. I thought that for close to a decade. With all that it had to offer, I figured nowhere else could gain my interest. Then, wanting to find someplace closer to home to fill the breach between trips there, I discovered the DR in 2007 and have made a dozen trips since, with another 2 weeks scheduled for late summer. After getting a lay of the land, I have now changed my mind to the point where Thailand is now closer to a 4-5 month per year destination and the DR about the same. Of course, the cost of flying round trip to these places would also factor into a budget, so that would be something to think about too.

For all the reasons you listed, in addition to the strength of the dollar against the peso, the DR, and Sosua in particular, does check off pretty much all the boxes I need that would make me content in wanting to give it a go living there. In addition, and I can't stress this enough, being able to enjoy the company of various expats of a like mind or close, whether it's simply meeting at a beach bar, an occasional meal somewhere, a road trip, or just knowing there are people close by who you could count on in a pinch if necessary, makes a huge difference in the quality of life you might lead as opposed to just being somewhere that a lot of pussy is available but having few friends and cohorts to hang out with when you want to give the pussy a rest from time to time.


With shopping, medical and dental clinics, nearby airport, multiple transport options, tons of eating and drinking places, the very nice and convenient beach close by, and the ladies for when the mood strikes.....Sosua does seem to be a desirable spot for an expat, or future expat, to consider living when the time comes in his life to GTFO of Dodge.

It would be interesting to see how many guys on the board over the next 5-15 years, decide to move to Sosua or the North Coast and turn the page on a new chapter in their own lives.

[camaro1257]

It would be interesting to see how many guys on the board over the next 5-15 years, decide to move to Sosua or the North Coast and turn the page on a new chapter in their own lives.

Jimmy and I had this discussion while we were in Medellin and of course he is pro Medellin for retirement but it is good to hear that other people are thinking the same way I am. For a minute there I thought I was on Mars considering to retire in Sosua. I will continue to explore the rest of the island until I decide for sure.

[jose1234]

In every country prices can change and rules about immigration and such can change. I am told that in Costa Rica prices for chicas and such has gone up along with the general price level for many goods and services making it difficult to retire there on a budget. Argentina was supposed to be a great place 10 years ago but no more... I have no clue because I have never been to these places looking for a retirement destination, but I think one has to be a bit flexible as things can change over five years or a decade... Because I only know Sosua my relative opinion is not very good. But, I can say that Sosua is a good place to retire, but one has to realize that safety is an important consideration. I would not suggest living anywhere outside of a secured apartment complex...in part because of the lifestyle the guys here live and in larger part because there are robberies and crime here... I would also suggest living within the city where walking is an option because its safer and much much cheaper to avoid owning a vehicle if possible. One can always rent a car when they want to take a trip to some place or hitch a ride with a friend or take public transportation from Sosua...imho... Also, getting work done here on your house is filled with scammers and problems...let the landlord deal with most things. Rent is cheap here currently... If you had to sell a place you owned here in a hurry you would lose a lot of money... It can take years to sell a property here...

[Seville]

Jimmy and I had this discussion while we were in Medellin and of course he is pro Medellin for retirement but it is good to hear that other people are thinking the same way I am. For a minute there I thought I was on Mars considering to retire in Sosua. I will continue to explore the rest of the island until I decide for sure.


I think the original point of this thread was directed at vacationing mongers, not ex-pats. There is a huge difference between vacationing here and living here. The changes on the strip, crack downs on the chicas, more hardcore chicas ect... whatever, can certainly have an impact on the vacationing monger. It has virtually no impact on the ex-pats here.

I love the beach and the small town aspect. Throw in my preference for dark skinned women and Medellin or Thailand has no appeal for me. I know I have never been to Medellin but from everything I have heard and read I am not really interested in going.

[greydread]

I think the original point of this thread was directed at vacationing mongers, not ex-pats. There is a huge difference between vacationing here and living here. The changes on the strip, crack downs on the chicas, more hardcore chicas ect... whatever, can certainly have an impact on the vacationing monger. It has virtually no impact on the ex-pats here.

I love the beach and the small town aspect. Throw in my preference for dark skinned women and Medellin or Thailand has no appeal for me. I know I have never been to Medellin but from everything I have heard and read I am not really interested in going.

You just said more in two paragraphs than most travel writers say in an entire book. You listed the consideration that matters most when considering travel destination, mainly the preference of the traveler. My Dad was an expat. He spent 12 years in Mexico and I spent much (just about all) of my vacation time there with him. My observances convinced me that I would probably never expatriate based on a simple fact that we spend our lifetimes cultivating careers, friendships and family relationships and establishing relevancy to the world around us and expatriation represents a sharp break with all of that. I love that on a whim, I can drive to NJ to visit my Kids and Grandkids and take them out to six flags or just buy a bunch of groceries, fire up the grill and make beautiful lifelong memories rather then wait for someone to visit or plan the infrequent trip back home to disrupt everybody else's routine. I love chance meetings with People who have been friends and acquaintances for over a quarter of a century and catching up on old times rather than sitting on the beach, watching the surf and wondering "whatever happened to...?".

Relationships between expat's and locals anywhere can grow genuinely close but they never reach the level of mutuality of those same relationships in our home countries. The fact that at any moment we can opt to pull the rip cord and de=assimilate precludes that.


As unstable as we may perceive the quality of life to be in our home countries there is nothing close to the instability that can be encountered while living abroad, some of it deadly, some of it extremely inconvenient. I had an account at Banamex which I used for my convenience during my trips to Mexico. One day the money changed. They printed up "new pesos" and stopped using "old pesos" and all the little stashes of pesos that I had laying around and the number printed on the balance ledger of my bankbook was meaningless. It wasn't that much money and as it wouldn't cover the cost of the trip, lost wages, inconvenience, etc. I just let it go. I remember when they changed governments in neighboring Guatemala and the steady stream of expats heading through Mexico to Texas with all they could carry tied to their cars. Imagining this happening on an island?

Nope, a few years ago I rededicated my life to perfecting the art of stress reduction after watching stress overcome the People whom I've known, one after another. They all died trying to put together that big deal or managing debt or watching their backs at work or in business and trying to protect what they worked so hard for or renovating their houses or trying to get payments from renters or some pursuing some other form of distraction which was rendered absolutely inconsequential upon their death. I decided to sell everything and rent everything, not worrying about property values or property taxes or renovations or repairs and living where I could get the best value and when that changes the process of picking up and moving on is only 30-45 days to complete. For the rest of my life I plan to pack light, move quickly and don't let any of life's bullshit stick to me, saving my energies for the things in life that are of utmost importance. I will travel to places I like, spending time with People I like and doing things I like. Every time I make love to a Woman I treat her like that Pum-Pum is the last thing I'm ever going to get.

I am a fisherman. I'm not in it for the fish, I'm in it for the fishin'.

[MrHappy]

Nope, a few years ago I rededicated my life to perfecting the art of stress reduction after watching stress overcome the People whom I've known, one after another. They all died trying to put together that big deal or managing debt or watching their backs at work or in business and trying to protect what they worked so hard for or renovating their houses or trying to get payments from renters or some pursuing some other form of distraction which was rendered absolutely inconsequential upon their death. I decided to sell everything and rent everything, not worrying about property values or property taxes or renovations or repairs and living where I could get the best value and when that changes the process of picking up and moving on is only 30-45 days to complete. For the rest of my life I plan to pack light, move quickly and don't let any of life's bullshit stick to me, saving my energies for the things in life that are of utmost importance. I will travel to places I like, spending time with People I like and doing things I like. Every time I make love to a Woman I treat her like that Pum-Pum is the last thing I'm ever going to get.

I am a fisherman. I'm not in it for the fish, I'm in it for the fishin'.

You ever thought of writing a book? You should.

[greydread]

You ever thought of writing a book? You should.
Thanks. I have thought about it. The problem with books is that any fool can pick one up, interpret what he reads in whatever way he chooses and go out and make a complete ass out of himself. I love the art of conversation (like you didn't know :rofl:). It allows the conversant parties to come together and share what they've seen, heard and done. It offers me an opportunity to find new perspective on my own experiences and relate to those of others.

For ages, the consolidated wisdom of Human cultures was passed from generation to generation by word of mouth and then someone had the bright idea to invent the written word. Much of the actual attainment of knowledge in the spoken word exchange was gained through the interactivity of the process rather than the actual words which were spoken. It makes me wonder how much of the knowledge of myself and the world that I live in I would relate to if I'd gotten that knowledge from books, rather than at the feet of my elders and at the sides of my friends. I have as much fun sharing insights with friends, old and new when on my downtime as I do chasing Punani.

The immediacy of the internet allows us the interactivity of spoken knowledge through the use of the written word. Somebody please thank Al Gore for me if you see him. This shit is great.

[daddyooo]

Sosua Lost.... a tribute from 4 almost years ago



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnSGUlDmf9s&feature=player_embedded

[mho]

There were plenty of girls around today and tonight. A larger percentage than I remember were good looking with good bodies. I might have previously overly critical of Sosua.

[greydread]

With Chica casas in Santo Domingo being not what they used to be there are a lot more Chicas travelling the bus route to the North Coast tourist rich hunting grounds. I thought about taking that bus trip just for the hell of it. On the weekends it must be like a stripper busses we used to take to Atlantic City from the DMV in the Clinton Era (peak of civilization).

[MrHappy]

With Chica casas in Santo Domingo being not what they used to be there are a lot more Chicas travelling the bus route to the North Coast tourist rich hunting grounds. I thought about taking that bus trip just for the hell of it. On the weekends it must be like a stripper busses we used to take to Atlantic City from the DMV in the Clinton Era (peak of civilization).

The real lookers have discovered the power of the internet, and have moved to the dark side, where they reside on "escort pages that guarantee the time of your life in a beautiful villa" for only 600 bucks a night.

The world has got more than it's share of simps willing to pay that shit.

Since the "10's" have all move to that venue, we mere mortals are left with what's left.

[Señor JDR of Medellin]

The real lookers have discovered the power of the internet, and have moved to the dark side, where they reside on "escort pages that guarantee the time of your life in a beautiful villa" for only 600 bucks a night.

The world has got more than it's share of simps willing to pay that shit.

Since the "10's" have all move to that venue, we mere mortals are left with what's left.

But just because you have an ad up doesn't mean they are sitting by the phone.

[JD426]

The real lookers have discovered the power of the internet, and have moved to the dark side, where they reside on "escort pages that guarantee the time of your life in a beautiful villa" for only 600 bucks a night.

The world has got more than it's share of simps willing to pay that shit.

Since the "10's" have all move to that venue, we mere mortals are left with what's left.

And for those Chicas who only have a cheap cell, and dont have the means YET of owning a Laptop or Pad, ... Nor able to afford the internet connection and want to meet that special Someone online from anywhere around the world for Fun or Profit ....... There seem to be more " Romance and DATING Service" companies popping up all over the Big Cities ( or maybe they were always there ?) .... Where Chicas can get their Pics taken PROFESSIONALLY.. etc etc... Have you noticed that in SD also ? In Santiago if you look closely there could be 2 on the same block. There are even GLOBAL Pimps with the right Political connections getting these Chicas Visas to like Dubai and all over EUROPE... Not sure how they are doing it (getting the Visas ) , but it seems to be very lucrative for them . Funny how the "human trafficking" police are always 2 steps behind though and never seem to bother them.. :rolleyes:

[PapiQueRico]

I don't think it's sad.

Especially considering that many, many more venture out to other areas of the DR and many other countries.


I 'm looking for a retirement spot, and have read extensively and spoken with many who are more widely traveled than I. The underlying theme, at least for those that have been to the DR and Sosua specifically, and even more so for those that find a decent beach essential, is that they have not found anywhere better than Sosua as a whole package.

Many love the Philippines but not to live in. Lots love Thailand...but again not to live full time. Tons love Colombia, especially Medellin.....but I don't even want to visit...no beach AND a big fucking city. No thanks.

Most places in Europe are now too expensive and/or lacking appreciative chicas....next
Most other places in Asia, SE Asia, etc...are either too 3rd world and lacking in amenities, can't learn the language or for other reasons not on my list.
North America and Australia....not gonna happen.

So it's down to "somewhere" in the Caribbean or someplace similar with the climate and close beach that I want.

Jamaica?
Turks and Caicos?
Belize?
Somewhere in Central or South america?

Got to be relatively safe, monger friendly, warm and with a beach no more than 15 minutes away.


In the end...at this time at least, if I were to retire tomorrow it would be to the DR and close if not in Sosua.

What's sad about that? lol :lol:

(That's a rhetorical question in case anyone missed it :rolleyes::p:rofl:)

That's exactly what I think of Sosua. Be sure to keep the tank on your generator filled!

[SeaWeed]

Since the "10's" have all move to that venue, we mere mortals are left with what's left.true.........and then some
mi sure a lot of guys are thinking "this isn't true"......I see a ton of good looking gurls in the bars
even I would have thought the same thing five years ago.....especially ten years ago
but today......the vast majority of really good looking gurls hang on the internet......not in the bars
example "tits" from last Winter that was a 9.5......great looking Jamaican gurl
the only way you can find her is on the internet....the only way.....no other way.....no sir
sure you can find someone nice out at the bars......but usually the best aren't hanging there......
the best looking are in their home/shack/apt etc playing on der cellie, ipad, laptop etc.......
and their hitting those keys on der machines on Facebook, Tagged, Whatsapp, Tango, etc......
and when you arrive in town.....they are more than willing to come meet you.......just you......
not dozens other guys hanging in a bar.....just you at your place or designated location.....
of course there is the money thingy when you are together.....and some you might not be able to afford.....
but there is a good chance you can afford the majority of dem......trust mi

mi have been farming Tagged, Facebook and Badoo for this summer......
been working it like a bandit....cause I want to find more tit's........not 7's or 8's......
looking for 9's......tits was a 9.5 but I'll settle for a couple 9's.......maybe 8.5's.....
and mi can find plenty of 7's and 8's just walking out on to mi lane.......lol
but mi want 9's.....quality not quantity....after all mi not a spring chicken anymore.....lol

[Al Nyc]

Sosua is not dead but the changes and publicity its getting of late is not good at all. Was browsing and saw this

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=9532895

www.nydailynews.com/new-york/crime/tsa-suprvisor-busted-sex-undeage-girls-dominican-republic-officials-article-1.1786724 (http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/crime/tsa-suprvisor-busted-sex-undeage-girls-dominican-republic-officials-article-1.1786724)

This moron life is over! A warning to guys out there. DONT BE STUPID!!!!!!!

[j_d66]

Sosua is not dead but the changes and publicity its getting of late is not good at all. Was browsing and saw this

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=9532895

www.nydailynews.com/new-york/crime/tsa-suprvisor-busted-sex-undeage-girls-dominican-republic-officials-article-1.1786724 (http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/crime/tsa-suprvisor-busted-sex-undeage-girls-dominican-republic-officials-article-1.1786724)

This moron life is over! A warning to guys out there. DONT BE STUPID!!!!!!!

But if you read the details surrounding this it happened in Santo Domingo and and Boca Chica not Sosua

[Al Nyc]

But if you read the details surrounding this it happened in Santo Domingo and and Boca Chica not Sosua

Your are correct j_d66, it did happened within the area of SD and Boca Chica, thanks. But my main message remain the same, DR is on everyones radar. DON'T BE STUPID!!!

[Señor JDR of Medellin]

Your are correct j_d66, it did happened within the area of SD and Boca Chica, thanks. But my main message remain the same, DR is on everyones radar. DON'T BE STUPID!!!

Its been there for years.

[WSJ3]

Your are correct j_d66, it did happened within the area of SD and Boca Chica, thanks. But my main message remain the same, DR is on everyones radar. DON'T BE STUPID!!!

After those young girls were kidnapped and sold into sex slavery in Nigeria every place on the planet is on the radar...

Not just DR

[dquick]

I read the first and last page of this thread. There has been fights on Pedro Clisante for more than 3 years. Are there more than in the past???? I don't think so. The worse place for fights has ALWAYS been After 1.

Sosua as a whole is NOT DEAD!!! Yes, 1500 pesos does not get the job done any more. But the exchange rate went from 37 to 43.5 over the last 3 years. The real increase in cost are Airline tickets, not the cost of pussy. My suggestions to those that are getting tired of Sosua is change up your game. More chicas are on the internet than ever. IMO, the level of quality is higher on the internet. The girls are still after pesos, but many want to play the long game. They price is not necessarily lower, but you will meet fresh faces that would never get caught on Pedro Clisante.

If you are truly tired of the DR, then try out other spots. I never been to Asia, but I have heard great things. Unfortunately, 2-3 week vacations do not work well into my schedule. I like to get away for 4 - 9 days. DR is a much shorter flight. Medellin? Has its advantages and disadvantages. I really am not a fan of Big City vacations. But others like the city environment when on vacation.

[jose1234]

There are more flights coming to the Puerto Plata airport this winter than in recent years past. It feels like the North Coast of the DR is getting more people this year and I think next year things will get even better at least for general tourism... Example below:

JetBlue Airways, the largest carrier at Boston Logan International Airport, has announced new non-stop services for the winter season to Daniel Oduber Quirós International Airport in Liberia, Costa Rica (LIR); Gregorio Luperón International Airport in Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic (POP); and Hewanorra International Airport in Saint Lucia (UVF).
All three services will commence on November 1, 2014, and operate once weekly on Saturdays.
The three new destination represents JetBlue’s 52nd, 53rd and 54th nonstop routes out of Boston, and JetBlue will offer the only nonstop service between Boston and both Costa Rica and Saint Lucia.

[MrHappy]

There are more flights coming to the Puerto Plata airport this winter than in recent years past. It feels like the North Coast of the DR is getting more people this year and I think next year things will get even better at least for general tourism... Example below:

JetBlue Airways, the largest carrier at Boston Logan International Airport, has announced new non-stop services for the winter season to Daniel Oduber Quirós International Airport in Liberia, Costa Rica (LIR); Gregorio Luperón International Airport in Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic (POP); and Hewanorra International Airport in Saint Lucia (UVF).
All three services will commence on November 1, 2014, and operate once weekly on Saturdays.
The three new destination represents JetBlue’s 52nd, 53rd and 54th nonstop routes out of Boston, and JetBlue will offer the only nonstop service between Boston and both Costa Rica and Saint Lucia.

I'm with you, Ohmm... I think this winter season is going to be a great one for the North Coast. Better start building those extra rooms now!!!!

[deezl]

I read the first and last page of this thread. There has been fights on Pedro Clisante for more than 3 years. Are there more than in the past???? I don't think so. The worse place for fights has ALWAYS been After 1.


Never been a big After One guy (only been there twice) but really any place with drunk dudes, and dominican dudes gets fights. El Flow used to feature fistfights on a (seemingly) hourly basis. Latinos wasn't much better, but at least there was some room to move around. Hell, my first or second night ever in Sosua there were two fistfights in front of Flow and a dude got shot in the chest in front of where D'Latin now stands in a 30 minute span. I think the problem now is that D'latin is the focal point and there are a lot of dominican and haitian dudes hanging out there - never used to be the case in Classico/Merengue, so a lot more gringos are in the middle of shit.

[TNT72]

Never been a big After One guy (only been there twice) but really any place with drunk dudes, and dominican dudes gets fights. El Flow used to feature fistfights on a (seemingly) hourly basis. Latinos wasn't much better, but at least there was some room to move around. Hell, my first or second night ever in Sosua there were two fistfights in front of Flow and a dude got shot in the chest in front of where D'Latin now stands in a 30 minute span. I think the problem now is that D'latin is the focal point and there are a lot of dominican and haitian dudes hanging out there - never used to be the case in Classico/Merengue, so a lot more gringos are in the middle of shit.



Along with "a bunch of bottom of the barrel bitches"!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[deezl]

Along with "a bunch of bottom of the barrel bitches"!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

tu saaaaabe!

:rofl:

[Al Nyc]

Never been a big After One guy (only been there twice) but really any place with drunk dudes, and dominican dudes gets fights. El Flow used to feature fistfights on a (seemingly) hourly basis. Latinos wasn't much better, but at least there was some room to move around. Hell, my first or second night ever in Sosua there were two fistfights in front of Flow and a dude got shot in the chest in front of where D'Latin now stands in a 30 minute span. I think the problem now is that D'latin is the focal point and there are a lot of dominican and haitian dudes hanging out there - never used to be the case in Classico/Merengue, so a lot more gringos are in the middle of shit.

So true, Classico/Merengue bar did a terrific job in weeding out the trouble making Dominicans, Haitians and hustlers. In D'Latin, it seem they can come and go as they pleased, plying their trade.:(

[Al Nyc]

Its been there for years.

Yeah your right. I remember back in 2006 & 2007 or so, I would tell my friends and family that I was going to the Dom Rep, and they would ask why DR? And my response to them is because it is close to the U.S. and it is cheaper. They and a lot of non mongering folks back then was not aware of DR as a P4P destination, now 7, 8 years later, things are different that I don't even tell my friends and family that I go to DR. I tell them I'm going to another location like Jamaica or Bahamas.

[SeaWeed]

The three new destination represents JetBlue’s 52nd, 53rd and 54th nonstop routes out of Boston, and JetBlue will offer the only nonstop service between Boston and both Costa Rica and Saint Lucia.
nice....too bad it's 20 years too late for this guy.......timing is everything mi guess....
JetBlue keeps getting better and better....what a class airline.....
felt like royalty flying with JetBlue after flying Spirit......just wish they flew out of Tampa, FL more

[Al Nyc]

Yeah your right. I remember back in 2006 & 2007 or so, I would tell my friends and family that I was going to the Dom Rep, and they would ask why DR? And my response to them is because it is close to the U.S. and it is cheaper. They and a lot of non mongering folks back then was not aware of DR as a P4P destination, now 7, 8 years later, things are different that I don't even tell my friends and family that I go to DR. I tell them I'm going to another location like Jamaica or Bahamas.

In the eyes of a lot of non mongering Americans today, when they think of the Dom Rep, the think of beaches and prostitutes.

[MrHappy]

Yeah your right. I remember back in 2006 & 2007 or so, I would tell my friends and family that I was going to the Dom Rep, and they would ask why DR? And my response to them is because it is close to the U.S. and it is cheaper. They and a lot of non mongering folks back then was not aware of DR as a P4P destination, now 7, 8 years later, things are different that I don't even tell my friends and family that I go to DR. I tell them I'm going to another location like Jamaica or Bahamas.

Shit... I remember telling people back in the 70's that the DR was still mostly jungle, and called the Dominicans "Natives". I always got a kick outta that.

The days of 5 dollar toto and 15 cent beers.

[Mr. Smooth]

Shit... I remember telling people back in the 70's that the DR was still mostly jungle, and called the Dominicans "Natives". I always got a kick outta that.

The days of 5 dollar toto and 15 cent beers.

Yeah, but Seville has posted about his 300 peso bj's on the back streets of Sosua. At 43 to 1 exchange, that works out to about a $6.98 bj. 35-40 years after those days of $5 buck toto, ya gotta admit, that is a damn good deal in todays money.

Walmart couldn't do any better on a rollback Wednesday!

[Señor JDR of Medellin]

Yeah, but Seville has posted about his 300 peso bj's on the back streets of Sosua. At 43 to 1 exchange, that works out to about a $6.98 bj. 35-40 years after those days of $5 buck toto, ya gotta admit, that is a damn good deal in todays money.

Walmart couldn't do any better on a rollback Wednesday!

I am sure he made much less back then as well.

[Jimbo44]

Just to add to this thread... I will say that I just got back a few days ago from a 14 day trip. Yesssss I will throw up a report soon of my own like in the past. I will say that I paid on avg 1000 and 1500 only nothing ever higher. Oh... but I aso had pantys, makeup, cosmetics, costume jewelry etc as gifts for each of the 12 girls I had within this period. The clubs were always packed... rumba between 7 and 10 and D Latins after that, but D Latins would get really jumping around 1am. Didn't bother with After 1, no reason to, I always scooped one up by 2 to 3 am. Yes it s true pic are more difficult to obtain , but u know I got my share.

[el_papi_chew_low]

Your are correct j_d66, it did happened within the area of SD and Boca Chica, thanks. But my main message remain the same, DR is on everyones radar. DON'T BE STUPID!!!

http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/lythcott-complaint.pdf

"They all then went to the beach where LYTHCOTT had sexual intercourse with the Victims in the water."

"Dominican law enforcement was able to identify LYTHCOTT after viewing the Facebook accounts of the Victims. The Victims were each showed a photo array containing LYTHCOTT and identified him as the American man they had had sexual relations with."

"He also indicated that he had been to the Dominican Republic on numerous occasions and that SUBJECT 1 had obtained girls for him to have sex with on approximately 45 occasions, but he claimed that prior to the December 2013 trip, the girls were always older than 18 years of age."

"In addition, LYTHCOTT had a Samsung Galaxy Note cellular telephone on his person at the time he was stopped. It was searched pursuant to HSI’s border search authority and a photograph of the VICTIMS was discovered."

[dquick]

http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/lythcott-complaint.pdf

"They all then went to the beach where LYTHCOTT had sexual intercourse with the Victims in the water."

"Dominican law enforcement was able to identify LYTHCOTT after viewing the Facebook accounts of the Victims. The Victims were each showed a photo array containing LYTHCOTT and identified him as the American man they had had sexual relations with."

"He also indicated that he had been to the Dominican Republic on numerous occasions and that SUBJECT 1 had obtained girls for him to have sex with on approximately 45 occasions, but he claimed that prior to the December 2013 trip, the girls were always older than 18 years of age."

"In addition, LYTHCOTT had a Samsung Galaxy Note cellular telephone on his person at the time he was stopped. It was searched pursuant to HSI’s border search authority and a photograph of the VICTIMS was discovered."

This has setup written all over it. He should be glad he made it out of the DR. Any decent lawyer should be able to fight extradition to DR. For starters, not feeding prisoners is inhuman. He does not even need to argue about the payoffs necessary to get a fair trial.

[MyTio]

why would he fight extradition he being trial will be in the USA ?

[Citynights]

There are more flights coming to the Puerto Plata airport this winter than in recent years past. It feels like the North Coast of the DR is getting more people this year and I think next year things will get even better at least for general tourism... Example below:

JetBlue Airways, the largest carrier at Boston Logan International Airport, has announced new non-stop services for the winter season to Daniel Oduber Quirós International Airport in Liberia, Costa Rica (LIR); Gregorio Luperón International Airport in Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic (POP); and Hewanorra International Airport in Saint Lucia (UVF).
All three services will commence on November 1, 2014, and operate once weekly on Saturdays.
The three new destination represents JetBlue’s 52nd, 53rd and 54th nonstop routes out of Boston, and JetBlue will offer the only nonstop service between Boston and both Costa Rica and Saint Lucia..

Not true for me flying out of Canada....less flies & more expensive....
thats why I fly home thru PUJ all the time...

[osanhopps]

I have been going to the DR since 2006. The only thing I have changed is this, I no longer pick anyone up from the clubs. When I go to both Sosua and Punta Cana, I always contact them via Hi5 or Tagged. This way they know what I am paying or what I am bringing. It would be a rare occasion that I pick someone up from Rumbas or D-Latin when in Sosua. And still I will only pay 1500 pesos for a TLN. There is just too many girls out there to be paying anymore than that. Punta Cana is different, because the resorts there run the town. I have never had any problems bring a girl to any of them. But the difference is this, do not pick up anyone from the town around the resorts. You must go to Higuey, if you want someone who is not going to hassle you for more money. The night clubs are more reasonable and it is easy to pick someone up from the central park area of town. Just sit there and have a beer, you will catch someones eye sooner or later. If you are playing the same game you did a couple of years ago, then you will definitely see the difference. But if you changed with the times, then basically everything is still the same. I will be going to Sosua later this year, and I have 3 ladies already lined up for my tour. Brothers get away from the club girls, find someone who will appreciate the money or gift you bring. And the most important thing I find when I do this, there are no surprises. What I mean by this is women carrying knives or calling the police about money at the end. This happened to a few people I met when I was flying down. Saw them later and they told me what happened. You don't need that on any trip.

[Bstokley]

true.........and then some
mi sure a lot of guys are thinking "this isn't true"......I see a ton of good looking gurls in the bars
even I would have thought the same thing five years ago.....especially ten years ago
but today......the vast majority of really good looking gurls hang on the internet......not in the bars
example "tits" from last Winter that was a 9.5......great looking Jamaican gurl
the only way you can find her is on the internet....the only way.....no other way.....no sir
sure you can find someone nice out at the bars......but usually the best aren't hanging there......
the best looking are in their home/shack/apt etc playing on der cellie, ipad, laptop etc.......
and their hitting those keys on der machines on Facebook, Tagged, Whatsapp, Tango, etc......
and when you arrive in town.....they are more than willing to come meet you.......just you......
not dozens other guys hanging in a bar.....just you at your place or designated location.....
of course there is the money thingy when you are together.....and some you might not be able to afford.....
but there is a good chance you can afford the majority of dem......trust mi

mi have been farming Tagged, Facebook and Badoo for this summer......
been working it like a bandit....cause I want to find more tit's........not 7's or 8's......
looking for 9's......tits was a 9.5 but I'll settle for a couple 9's.......maybe 8.5's.....
and mi can find plenty of 7's and 8's just walking out on to mi lane.......lol
but mi want 9's.....quality not quantity....after all mi not a spring chicken anymore.....lol
Thanks Bredren! I found the magic of TAGGED 2 years ago and havent looked back since. i'd say im probably 18 for 26, for girls i've sampled after initial "hello" on there. What i do is GO HARD, sending out messages, 2-3 weeks before my next trip down. Line them up so everything is already discussed and expected, they come through on their designated day and we take care of business and send them on their way.

I am a hunter at heart and will still hit the strip, in sosua, santiago or SD (whereever I happen to be) for sport, but i've found the best gems when talking overall, LOOKS, ATTITUDE, PERFORMANCE, QUALITY, online. I also never mention when im leaving and im real vaque about my travel dates, to let em think im a simp or WESTERN UNION sucker, looking for love n shit lol. works everytime. Also, this is a another one of my tidbits of knowledge, I've found great success hunting at or near english schools in Santiago. The girls seems genuinely over enthusiastic to chill and learn some english with a fine, canadian brother like myself who speaks 3 languages fluently and working on my spanish.

Only problem i've found was in SD tryna holla at the well-to-do "fair skined" dominicanas with money, soon as I approach they assume im haitian until i start speaking and even then the vibe is gone for me based on their ignorant STERLINGesque racist attitudes. Been dealing with racism (blatant and undercover) all my life so its nothing new just a bit annoying.

[Bstokley]

http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/lythcott-complaint.pdf

"They all then went to the beach where LYTHCOTT had sexual intercourse with the Victims in the water."

"Dominican law enforcement was able to identify LYTHCOTT after viewing the Facebook accounts of the Victims. The Victims were each showed a photo array containing LYTHCOTT and identified him as the American man they had had sexual relations with."

"He also indicated that he had been to the Dominican Republic on numerous occasions and that SUBJECT 1 had obtained girls for him to have sex with on approximately 45 occasions, but he claimed that prior to the December 2013 trip, the girls were always older than 18 years of age."

"In addition, LYTHCOTT had a Samsung Galaxy Note cellular telephone on his person at the time he was stopped. It was searched pursuant to HSI’s border search authority and a photograph of the VICTIMS was discovered."

This is exactly why, before boarding my plane, i do a complete sweep of my internet browsing history on my laptop as well as delete any and all videos and pics from my fone, after securely moving them to my DROPBOX app for safe keeping ofcourse. Last time i flew into Toronto, TSA ransacked through every single device i had even popped in spared memory cards. invest in dropbox, better to play it safe then having to explain multiple chicas in sexually explicit photos.