View Full Version : 03/2017 - Body Blow to Sosua (The End is Near)
Shogun Warrior
03-01-2017, 06:19 PM
SOSUA, Puerto Plata.-El director del Cuerpo Especializado de Seguridad Turística (Cestur), general de brigada Juan Carlos Torres Robiou, announced today a new initiative to cease prostitution in the municipality of Sosua.
Cestur officials will begin detaining identified prostitutes who have been previously arrested in Sosua and are found to be in the company of men on Playa Sosua and calles on or adjoining the main throughways of Sosua, including Pedro Clisante and other calles, avenidas, and areas zoned for businesses catering to tourism in the municipality.
Sosua mayor Ilana Neumann de Azar, politician and lawyer from the Dominican Republic, reportedly met with General Torres Robiou last week and expressed approval of of the Cestur initiative he proposed. She issued a statement giving a rationale for the change but acknowledged that sex tourists cannot be detained under current laws in The Dominican Republic.
"While adult prostitution is legal in the Dominican Republic,Neumann said, it can lead to sex trafficking - known as modern day slavery - when someone is forced, deceived or coerced into commercial sexual exploitation against their will."
"Detaining known prostitutes and questioning men in their company may save Dominican women from the dangers of human trafficking and will give Cestur a new tool to help make Sosua a safer destination for family tourism."
(TRYING TO VERIFY THIS NOW) 1733 HRS
I'd guess it depends on the geographic area affected and the choice of Hotels....
If it's PC from say City lights to the beach it wouldn't affect me much even with the side streets thrown in.
If the chicas can get off "the bus" at the texaco and are safe on a moto to my hotel it's not so bad.
Fucking with the beach will suck...a lot and would seem unrealistic and unfair but....it's the DR
I have not been in a club in Sosua in years...and the best ones are closed/changed/suck ass anyway.
I can see however that it will mess with the MO of many
Of course I doubt that it will be a long lived consistently enforced policy....but the DR gov't does seem to be more and more serious so it could be another step on the road to exterminating the Sosua most of us know and "luv"
Shogun, was there a link?
Thanks:iconTU:
Shogun Warrior
03-01-2017, 06:44 PM
I am searching like a motherfucker now!!!!
oops, ok :rolleyes:
Didn't mean to rub salt in that wound! :rofl:
I am searching like a motherfucker now!!!!
Shogun Warrior
03-01-2017, 07:16 PM
I am going to have to apologize for reposting an alleged article that has not/cannot be verified. Let's let this continue to develop for a few more hours but I do believe I fell for some fake news. I have viewed a good handful of online newspapers and have not seen it yet???
While I have not found a link either it IS something that is totally in character and within the parameters of "the plan" for Sosua.
So don't feel bad.....
I am going to have to apologize for reposting an alleged article that has not/cannot be verified. Let's let this continue to develop for a few more hours but I do believe I fell for some fake news.
jacknback
03-01-2017, 08:05 PM
oops, ok :rolleyes:
Didn't mean to rub salt in that wound! :rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
questner
03-01-2017, 09:58 PM
Fake news
Jimmydr
03-01-2017, 09:59 PM
I'd guess it depends on the geographic area affected and the choice of Hotels....
If it's PC from say City lights to the beach it wouldn't affect me much even with the side streets thrown in.
If the chicas can get off "the bus" at the texaco and are safe on a moto to my hotel it's not so bad.
Fucking with the beach will suck...a lot and would seem unrealistic and unfair but....it's the DR
I have not been in a club in Sosua in years...and the best ones are closed/changed/suck ass anyway.
I can see however that it will mess with the MO of many
Of course I doubt that it will be a long lived consistently enforced policy....but the DR gov't does seem to be more and more serious so it could be another step on the road to exterminating the Sosua most of us know and "luv"
The chicas will still be there somewhere.
greydread
03-02-2017, 12:40 AM
The chicas will still be there somewhere.
Yeah. They'll be in Argentina and Curacao and Sint Maarten and the Bahamas and Panama and Switzerland and Netherlands and Spain and Italy and the USA and Canada being "Human Trafficked" for real.
Short sighted policies result in short term benefits that turn into tragic results in the long term. If they spent half the effort on educating Women that they spend suppressing them there would be no issue to grapple with.
The Sage
03-02-2017, 01:13 AM
That shit is funny. Essentially they're saying we need to separarte the hoes, who have broken no laws, from the tourists so they won't be subject to human trafficking and we're so dead set on protecting our innocent females that we'll send them to jail to save them. What a piece of crap. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Mr. Smooth
03-02-2017, 05:19 AM
Glad it isn't true. I'll be back in a week. :corky:
Jimmydr
03-02-2017, 07:22 AM
Yeah. They'll be in Argentina and Curacao and Sint Maarten and the Bahamas and Panama and Switzerland and Netherlands and Spain and Italy and the USA and Canada being "Human Trafficked" for real.
Short sighted policies result in short term benefits that turn into tragic results in the long term. If they spent half the effort on educating Women that they spend suppressing them there would be no issue to grapple with.
Walk around the small towns near Boca Chica and find 50 chicas.
greydread
03-02-2017, 10:00 AM
Walk around the small towns near Boca Chica and find 50 chicas.
...or walk around the Capital and find 5,000 :rofl:
SrSuerte
03-02-2017, 10:39 AM
I am going to have to apologize for reposting an alleged article that has not/cannot be verified. Let's let this continue to develop for a few more hours but I do believe I fell for some fake news. I have viewed a good handful of online newspapers and have not seen it yet???
7 days restriction, 7 days extra duty, and forfeiture of your contact list!:rofl:
Of course they will.
And with this newfangled internet thingy and wifi/cell service almost everywhere all one needs to do is make use of things like FB and you'll have access to all the chicas you could possibly want....as long as they can get to you without getting arrested lol
It once seemed a lot more "innocent" and it certainly was a lot more "fun" to be able to hang out wherever we wanted and have the chicas readily around. Once upon a time if you sat down at a table on the beach it would not be long before there were some chicas actively trying to make your acquaintance. Same in any disco/club, grocery store, calmado or just walking down the street.
It's not even 10% of what it once was....but I enjoy it about as much as my "needs" have changed, but for newbies coming to town they have no idea of how crazy and awesome things were
These days I really only want the chicas around "when I want them around" and that's generally for fucking and then off you go.... But that's me. Do you :wink::lol:
The chicas will still be there somewhere.
WickedWillie
03-02-2017, 12:29 PM
Whether it's fake news or not Cestur have certainly been notably more aggressive in the last few nights.
Just my personal observation.
yayow
03-02-2017, 09:43 PM
Glad it isn't true. I'll be back in a week. :corky:
It may be true
questner
03-02-2017, 10:22 PM
Whether it's fake news or not Cestur have certainly been notably more aggressive in the last few nights.
Just my personal observation.
That's maybe because of the Ash Wednesday and a weekend before. There is a lengthy interview on youtube with a new Cestur jefe, and it has nothing about hoes, only about how to protect tourists. btw he seems to be a nice guy.
theheights718
03-06-2017, 10:52 AM
We've been hearing this same story ever since I started going back in 2009 and I'm sure even before that. Same hoes on the block from back then...only thing has changed is the generation of monger & some of the clubs/bars.
They just like to sound good, but they not gonna change anything.
:rolleyes:
Things were radically different before. I first arrived in January 2004 that the Old Heads back then were saying the same thing.
In 2004/5 ALL the bars, restaurants were "open air, that is no walls so you got to see and be seen, feel the breeze, etc. The chicas were everywhere and there were hundreds of them. No exaggeration. They were on the street and actively propositioning people almost 24/7 lol
There were tons of bars and clubs and they were packed. There would be hundreds of people in the streets at night and the beach was BUSY. On Sundays you had a hard time finding a space at the beach.
Now a days most of the clubs are closed, the rest mostly enclosed and there is significantly less traffic and chicas. I'd say only 10-30% at best from at the peak that I experienced.
The good thing now is that there are tons more restaurants and most are very good....if mostly Italian :D
I'm not complaining but to say that nothing changes or nothing will change is not true. Sosua as a raw monger scene is a mere shadow of what it once was. It's the same story for Boca Chica which by many accounts was even crazier with the chicas back in the day...
I'm not saying Sosua is bad....it's still my favorite chica destination but it's dramatically different.
We've been hearing this same story ever since I started going back in 2009 and I'm sure even before that. Same hoes on the block from back then...only thing has changed is the generation of monger & some of the clubs/bars.
They just like to sound good, but they not gonna change anything.
:rolleyes:
tgunz
03-06-2017, 12:42 PM
I hope they continue to push the in your face monger scene out. The guys who have no desire to learn spanish, no desire to adapt to thier surroundings, but rather force thier surroundings to adapt to them. I say good ridence!
Contrary to popular belief here, there are plenty of ex pats and snow birds to keep all the off the beaten path places going. When the curent scene gets cleaned up they will start to return in bigger numbers and it will be a nice balance of a more discreet monger to blend in with everyone else.
However its not just the new age monger whos the problem. The DR govt did irreversable damage ,imo, in the eyes of many when they went arrond locking up gringos. Also, the appreance of pedro clisante from rhumbas to dlatin is a disgrace. When burbon was closed it was even worse. Sights like that cant be unseen.
So a lot has to change, But I hope it does..
el_papi_chew_low
03-06-2017, 01:32 PM
I hope they continue to push the in your face monger scene out. The guys who have no desire to learn spanish, no desire to adapt to thier surroundings, but rather force thier surroundings to adapt to them. I say good ridence
I think the point of no return has already been reached. This is one of the reasons I rarely go to Sosua accept for a day trip to the beach.
Funny story. I am in Florida right now so I can get my annual physical. I have a new doctor who is Korean. I told him I am only in town for a week because I live in the DR. He then proceeded to ask me if I lived in Sosua. He is familiar with the DR and the medical facilities there as he travels a few times a year with a group of doctors that provide free health services. The fact that sosua was the first place to come out of his mouth ... SMDH
Maretti
03-06-2017, 02:20 PM
That's maybe because of the Ash Wednesday and a weekend before. There is a lengthy interview on youtube with a new Cestur jefe, and it has nothing about hoes, only about how to protect tourists. btw he seems to be a nice guy.
They can start by getting rid of three fat putas in Boca Chica whose modus operandi is to try to get to your pockets by grabbing your dick. I've seen Politur detaining regular women just there to make a few pesos, but those three thieves they leave alone and they've been in BC for quite a few years now.
questner
03-06-2017, 07:44 PM
As I predicted in my earlier posts (I'll be bAAck!)
http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=4756&article=1
http://www.sosuanews.com/news_pictures/2017/03/03-05_1.jpg
Armando Casciati's welcome party (http://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=4756&article=1)
Armando Casciati invites everyone to celebrate his return to Sosúa with a big party (for free). The party takes place tonight (March 5) in the main hall of the Casino. It starts at 6 PM. Rubby Perez, the nationally renowned musician, and his band will perform during the party. Snacks and drinks are also for free.
Armando Casciati, the owner of the Merengue Club and Disco D'Clasico in Sosúa was forced to leave the country in September 2014. He fought this in court it seems he eventually won the trail. Armando Casciati is a big investor in Sosúa and owns several bars, nightclubs and hotels.
Facebook: armando.casciati (https://www.facebook.com/armando.casciati)
theheights718
03-07-2017, 10:11 AM
Things were radically different before. I first arrived in January 2004 that the Old Heads back then were saying the same thing.
In 2004/5 ALL the bars, restaurants were "open air, that is no walls so you got to see and be seen, feel the breeze, etc. The chicas were everywhere and there were hundreds of them. No exaggeration. They were on the street and actively propositioning people almost 24/7 lol
There were tons of bars and clubs and they were packed. There would be hundreds of people in the streets at night and the beach was BUSY. On Sundays you had a hard time finding a space at the beach.
Now a days most of the clubs are closed, the rest mostly enclosed and there is significantly less traffic and chicas. I'd say only 10-30% at best from at the peak that I experienced.
The good thing now is that there are tons more restaurants and most are very good....if mostly Italian :D
I'm not complaining but to say that nothing changes or nothing will change is not true. Sosua as a raw monger scene is a mere shadow of what it once was. It's the same story for Boca Chica which by many accounts was even crazier with the chicas back in the day...
I'm not saying Sosua is bad....it's still my favorite chica destination but it's dramatically different.
Yeah, i wasnt really talking about the atmosphere...more so the hoes being out there like described in the article. I got there on the tail end of the changes of the strip which I am grateful for. My only issue now is having to go outside of sosua to go to club to actually party & dance. Classicos is great for the grab n dash, but sometimes I just want to dance & have a good time without her asking for a tip for her time...LOL :rofl:
Jimmydr
03-08-2017, 06:51 AM
They can start by getting rid of three fat putas in Boca Chica whose modus operandi is to try to get to your pockets by grabbing your dick. I've seen Politur detaining regular women just there to make a few pesos, but those three thieves they leave alone and they've been in BC for quite a few years now.
I never saw them.
MrHappy
03-09-2017, 08:32 AM
I hope they continue to push the in your face monger scene out. The guys who have no desire to learn spanish, no desire to adapt to thier surroundings, but rather force thier surroundings to adapt to them. I say good ridence!
Contrary to popular belief here, there are plenty of ex pats and snow birds to keep all the off the beaten path places going. When the curent scene gets cleaned up they will start to return in bigger numbers and it will be a nice balance of a more discreet monger to blend in with everyone else.
However its not just the new age monger whos the problem. The DR govt did irreversable damage ,imo, in the eyes of many when they went arrond locking up gringos. Also, the appreance of pedro clisante from rhumbas to dlatin is a disgrace. When burbon was closed it was even worse. Sights like that cant be unseen.
So a lot has to change, But I hope it does..
I've been saying the same thing for years. Prostitution has always been accepted by the locals as long as folks were discreet about it.
The in your face crowd has done an exceptional job of ruining a good thing.
Shogun Warrior
03-09-2017, 09:04 AM
Update: Yes I know we are a big group and a small one all at the same time. Guys that post on the various online websites can be in the thousands but I have only heard of 1 instance in which a guy has reported that when he was walking with a chica, they were stopped and the chica was detained. He reported that he went home alone although a little pissed. All other reports indicate that the party is still rocking in it's present form.
No major changes to the way business is done. The time limits are in place during the week and is extended on the weekends only in Sosua. In Caberete' it's an all night party!
Shogun Warrior
03-10-2017, 08:22 AM
PUERTO PLATA.- The General Directorate of Migration (DGM) Wednesday ordered the establishment of a temporary office in the tourist town of Sosúa, in the eastern part of the province of Puerto Plata, in order to facilitate the migration processes of hundreds of foreign nationals residing in the area. According to a note sent to the Puerto Plata Digital by the Office of Communications agency, it is indicated that the first of these offices will begin operations at the premises of the mayor of Sosúa on Wednesday, March 15 from 8:00 am until 5:00 pm, from Monday to Friday.
As part of a meeting with representatives of the different sectors linked to the institution in Sosúa, DGM authorities responded to concerns about the provisions of the General Law on Migration, No. 285-04, in particular, concerning the rights and duties of foreigners, periods of permanence, changes in immigration status and the documents and procedures required to be admitted as temporary or permanent residents.
In this sense, it was informed that the authorization of the Temporary Migration office will be extended, progressively, in the different tourist centers of the country, in order to facilitate the foreigners, regularization of their immigration status, whether these are students , temporary workers, temporary residents, permanent residents, or investors.
Likewise, it is specified that the meeting of the Migration authorities was attended by Deputy Minister of Tourism, Julio Almonte, the mayor of Sosúa, Ilana Neumann, as well as representatives of the Association of Hotels and Restaurants of Sosúa and Cabarete (ASHORESOCA) , the Association for the Sustainable Development of Sosúa (ADSS), and the Specialized Body in Tourism Security (CESTUR).
Source: Puerto Plata Digital
Mar 9, 2017
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So the problem of illegal immigration is so bad in Sosua that they have to have a new office established in town. Not in Puerto Plata, not in Caberete,................. but in Sosua. I smell a new flavor of bullshit!! Those of you that live there; could you guys please enlighten us with "the rest of the story". Are they really targeting the monger community that is composed of expats & tourist as written or is this a prelude to a Haitian roundup.
SrSuerte
03-10-2017, 01:58 PM
It sounds like a good idea, but maybe it is a bugs bunny trap!?
el_papi_chew_low
03-10-2017, 07:36 PM
Source: Puerto Plata Digital
Mar 9, 2017
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So the problem of illegal immigration is so bad in Sosua that they have to have a new office established in town. Not in Puerto Plata, not in Caberete,................. but in Sosua. I smell a new flavor of bullshit!! Those of you that live there; could you guys please enlighten us with "the rest of the story". Are they really targeting the monger community that is composed of expats & tourist as written or is this a prelude to a Haitian roundup.
I know this will make the people on DR1 who don't like the fact that so many people "live" in Sosua without seeking residency happy. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if some of them had a hand in pushing for this.
Shogun Warrior
03-10-2017, 09:23 PM
So how big is the problem? Is it real?
captain69
03-11-2017, 10:28 AM
There are many folks who live in Sosua, who applied for residency through the naturalization plan in 2015, and are still waiting for their cedulas and residencies. If this new office can expedite the paperwork, this could be a good thing. Going back and forth to Puerto Plata to be told "We will let you know" has been a bit frustrating. I don't imagine that this office will help those who choose to remain here without legal status.
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