Hurricane Dean

[3somefan]

I was just watching the evening news before heading off to work and they are reporting that a tropical storm is forming in the Caribbean. The projected track has it heading directly for the DR and/or Puerto Rico by Sunday! Looks like it will only be a Category 2 storm, but that still could be potentially bad. Just giving you all the heads up if you are there or traveling there this week. Stay safe and follow the weather. :)

[Apos]

DR1 has excellent DR weather coverage by Chris, a mod.
http://www.dr1.com/forums/weather-beyond/65445-tropical-storm-dean.html

http://www.dr1.com/forums/santo-domingo/65441-lets-just-say-storm-hits-island.html

and you can follow the weather here yourself
http://caribwx.mwxc.com/sattelite.html

[3somefan]

Thanks alot for the links! I was just looking for some to post....

[Kevy]

This site gives the best details

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/

[Beads]

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/204525.shtml?5day#contents

It looks like the DR might get hit with this thing Sunday sometime. Anyone in the country should be prepared as it gets closer.

[guttaman]

Atta boy Dean. Kick ass and take names.

[elsucio]

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/204525.shtml?5day#contents

It looks like the DR might get hit with this thing Sunday sometime. Anyone in the country should be prepared as it gets closer.

As long as it is gone by Thursday, was there for Jeanne, i have never seen rain like that before in my life

[Beads]

Sosua seems to flood real easily I wonder what its like in a hurricane.

[ChicaSeeka]

Sosua seems to flood real easily I wonder what its like in a hurricane.

the boys better hit the atm, if they get stuck there during the storm , they will need about 20000 pesos for the 2 nights with those gals.....LOL, even better yet tell the girls the phone lines are down and so are the ATMS no more pesos......

[elsucio]

Sosua seems to flood real easily I wonder what its like in a hurricane.

So does Boca Chica, don't think there is any sort of drainage, the roads were literaly were under 3 feet of water

[Beads]

the boys better hit the atm, if they get stuck there during the storm , they will need about 20000 pesos for the 2 nights with those gals.....LOL

2 days they better take out 30000RD there gonna need extra water! I have asked before how well the buildings in Sosua can handle a hurricane and people said the brick structures would be fine. I don't know how safe I would feel in one of those condos or at the NG during a cat 4 or 5 hurricane. I'm sure theres tons of debris flying around.

[psriches]

Another good one. You can even hear it from the people there.

http://stormcarib.com/

[ChicaSeeka]

2 days they better take out 30000RD there gonna need extra water! I have asked before how well the buildings in Sosua can handle a hurricane and people said the brick structures would be fine. I don't know how safe I would feel in one of those condos or at the NG during a cat 4 or 5 hurricane. I'm sure theres tons of debris flying around.

I 'd be the guy with 10 chicas huddled in my room, If I'm going out I'm giong out with a smile...:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :eek: :eek:

[milldam]

I 'd be the guy with 10 chicas huddled in my room, If I'm going out I'm giong out with a smile...:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :eek: :eek:


Now heres a man with a plan!!!!

[LM]

A hurricane very rarely makes a direct hit on the island, it generally veers north...still can get lashed by heavy rains though.

Rocky might know when the last hurricane hit, it might be able to elaborate a bit.

[elsucio]

A hurricane very rarely makes a direct hit on the island, it generally veers north...still can get lashed by heavy rains though.

Rocky might know when the last hurricane hit, it might be able to elaborate a bit.

I can't rember if Jeanne hit directly but i know it rained liked hell...

[Apos]

http://dr1.com/articles/hurricanes.shtml
bottom of the page


Hurricanes hitting the Dominican Republic, contrary to most people’s beliefs, are really not very common events. If you look at the hurricanes that have hit, they are spaced out over the course of time. When they do strike, they rarely hit the north coast but more often strike the southern and western parts of the island instead. Following is a list of hurricanes on record that hit the Dominican Republic, their respective categories and the areas they affected:
Jeanne (Category 1). 16 September 2004. East Coast, Samana and Puerto Plata.
Georges. (Category 3). 22 September 1998. 190 km/h. Santo Domingo and La Romana on the southeastern coast.
Hortense. (Category 3-1). 10 September 1996. East coast from Punta Cana to Samana. 148 km/h.
Gilbert. (Category 3). 11 September 1988. Barahona on the southwestern coast, with winds of 200 km/h.
Emily. (Category 4-2). 22 September 1987. Bani on the southwestern coast, winds of 220 km/h.
David. (Category 5-4). 31 August 1979. 240 km/h. Santo Domingo on the south central coast.
Eloise (Category 1) 13 September 1975 240 km/hr on Northeast coast.
Beulah. (Category 4). 10-11 September 1967. Barahona on the western coast with winds of 225 km/h.
Inez. (Category 4-3). 29 September 1966. Barahona on the western coast, winds of 204 kph.
Edith. (Category 2). 26-27 September 1963. La Romana on the southeastern coast, winds of 160 km/h.
Katie. (Category 1). 16 October 1955. Barahona on the western coast, winds of 125 km/h.
San Zenon. (Category 3). 3 September 1930. 200 km/h. Santo Domingo on the south/central coast.
Lili. 21 September 1894. Primarily affecting Santo Domingo and the southwestern coast.Note that the last hurricane to hit the capital city of Santo Domingo was Georges (Category 3) on September 22nd 1998 and before that, hurricane David (Category 5) in 1979. This the likelihood of getting caught in one is very small.

[questner]

Check out http://www.americasweather.com/ Plug in ICAO in Quickcast and get it. Puerto Plata International is MDPP.
Hope to be there safely this Saturday.
Wish Dean not to be mean.

[KoKi9290]

Living in Miami, I've been thru a Cat 4/5 "Andrew" and a couple of Cat Ones (including getting out in the eye when it passed over). I would not want to be in any structure I saw down there (including NG) even in a Cat One.
I woould be less worried about the flooding at somewhere like NG cause it'll all run off down Rosen.

[3somefan]

From what I've heard, it may breakup or be reduced in strength when it runs into the mountains. Then they generally pass over the North Coast. Just some strong winds and heavy rains, and of course some flooding. This is just word of mouth though, never been caught in one and never want to be!

Everyone down there towards the end of the week and weekend....STAY SAFE!!

[Don Tomas]

From what I've heard, it may breakup or be reduced in strength when it runs into the mountains. Then they generally pass over the North Coast. Just some strong winds and heavy rains, and of course some flooding. This is just word of mouth though, never been caught in one and never want to be!

Everyone down there towards the end of the week and weekend....STAY SAFE!!

Take a trip to Jarabacoa one day where Georges (iirc) passed over the DR and went right through the valley destroying the hydro-electric dam. When I was there last the pieces where still laying around, even if they have been cleaned up you can probably still see the twisted metal I-beams that were once the foundation.

Remember the DR has a few mountain ranges but they all run SE-NW so a hurricane can rip right down the valley.

[3somefan]

Shit! Looks like it may strengthen up to a CAT 4 Hurricane now. Looks like it will definitely affect the DR in some way...:(

[psriches]

http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/imagehosting/420946c39b8a88b49.jpg

[KoKi9290]

NOAA here in Miami is reporting the tracks show it remaining south of the DR but kicking the shit out of the Yucatan. The DR may still get Tropical Force winds.

[psriches]

At least it's moving rapidly!!

http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/imagehosting/420946c4c674efd1b.jpg

[3somefan]

Damn, that looks like it is heading straight towards the DR!! It's a CAT 2 hurricane now and is expected to grow in size and strength.

BlackBeard's newsletter was just emailed to me and they put something in it telling everyone not to worry about the hurricanes. They state that it has been over 50 years since one has struck the POP area.

[psriches]

I think the center will pass just to the south of DR. Although, the strongest wind gusts are usually found on the northern side of Hurricane rotations.

[guttaman]

Looks like a few tin roofs will be flying around. I hope the DR hurricane watch does not become a weekly thing.

[psriches]

Thurs. 9:05pm EST :wink:

http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/imagehosting/420946c4f9210a036.jpg

[questner]

Here is the latest position and with extra 200 miles on the northern side I hope it will pass DR:
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 16/2100Z 14.0N 56.5W 85 KT
12HR VT 17/0600Z 14.4N 59.7W 90 KT
24HR VT 17/1800Z 15.0N 63.5W 95 KT
36HR VT 18/0600Z 15.5N 67.0W 100 KT
48HR VT 18/1800Z 16.0N 70.5W 110 KT
72HR VT 19/1800Z 17.5N 78.0W 115 KT
96HR VT 20/1800Z 19.5N 84.5W 120 KT
120HR VT 21/1800Z 22.0N 90.5W 90 KT

[psriches]

http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/imagehosting/420946c57729bec6c.jpg

[Rocky]

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/loop-vis.html

[Rocky]

For those who don't already know, Sosua and surrounding areas never get hit by hurricanes.
At best, we get storms as a result of them passing by.
Dean should have no effect on us whatsoever, given it's southern projected track.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/203525.shtml?3day#contents

[Rocky]

This is one huge hurricane.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/loop-wv.html
(You may have to allow pop ups in security bar, to view)
The South coast will definitely be stormy, although nothing heavy should happen, except perhaps in the Barahona area.

[rley69]

As the hurricane said to the palm tree - hang on to your nuts, this is no ordinary blow job!

[Gladiator]

For those who don't already know, Sosua and surrounding areas never get hit by hurricanes.
At best, we get storms as a result of them passing by.


Rocky,

Everyone knows that hurricanes can hit the entire North Coast, and Sosua is no exception.

I was unfortunate enough to witness this myself in September 2004 as I was in Sosua when hurricane Jeanne hit the DR. Samana was the most damaged, but it also affected many other towns, including Sosua (blown down trees, torn off roofs, flooding, etc).

According to what some locals told me, Jeanne was relatively mild compared to other hurricanes that they had seen in the town in the past.

And for those who are curious: yes, when a hurricane hits the town it spoils the fun for a few days because most girls don’t like to get out of their houses while there are 70-80 mph winds or 2-day long, non-stop torrential rains.

[Beads]

Rocky,

Everyone knows that hurricanes can hit the entire North Coast, and Sosua is no exception.

I was unfortunate enough to witness this myself in September 2004 as I was in Sosua when hurricane Jeanne hit the DR. Samana was the most damaged, but it also affected many other towns, including Sosua (blown down trees, torn off roofs, flooding, etc).

According to what some locals told me, Jeanne was relatively mild compared to other hurricanes that they had seen in the town in the past.

And for those who are curious: yes, when a hurricane hits the town it spoils the fun for a few days because most girls don’t like to get out of their houses while there are 70-80 mph winds or 2-day long, non-stop torrential rains.

Chicas must freak out in 70-80mph wind not being able to work for 2 or 3 days.

[psriches]

Today 11:36am

The eye is still projected to pass south of DR.

http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/imagehosting/420946c715034adb1.jpg

[3somefan]

From the news live satellite feed, it looks like the eye won't go directly over the DR, but it will still hit the island pretty hard, including Haiti.

[Beads]

The south coast looks like its going to get the edge of it. Poor Jamaica is going to take a beating. Its going to be very interesting around Tuesday when it makes its way across land by Mexico.

If it doesnt lose some steam we could see a major hit someplace in the US.

[3somefan]

Yeah, that sucks! I'm watching the news right now. Some people in Jamaica are taking this serious by getting out and stocking up on groceries, but many are just taking it easy playing golf!! Crazy!

CAT 4. Haiti may take a good beating too. Glad I'm not in the DR right now...(that is probably the ONLY time I would ever say that!!

[blacksultan]

I just checked the weather in Medellin for my trip and it looks like there will be scattered thunderstorms through Wednesday. It makes no difference to me. I will be fucking chicas indoors.

[Beads]

Im sure itll be ok on the north coast. theyll probably get a windy rainy day but nothing too crazy like the south coast.

[3somefan]

Galveston, Texas is having a press conference right now warning residents about Dean. They think it may be a CAT 5 by the time it gets to the US. Mother Nature is a bitch!

[Gladiator]

Chicas must freak out in 70-80mph wind not being able to work for 2 or 3 days.

I think the best thing to do before a hurricane is to ask 1-2 of your favourite girls to move in to your room with you so that they stay during the whole period, because you will be unlikely to find many other options around once the torrential rainfall starts.

I learnt that lesson the hard way...

[3somefan]

I just checked the weather in Medellin for my trip and it looks like there will be scattered thunderstorms through Wednesday. It makes no difference to me. I will be fucking chicas indoors.

Have fun buddy (I know you will)! Stay safe and tap that ass! ;)

[blacksultan]

Galveston, Texas is having a press conference right now warning residents about Dean. They think it may be a CAT 5 by the time it gets to the US. Mother Nature is a bitch!

Then they need to evacuate Galveston now!!!!!!!

[blacksultan]

I think the best thing to do before a hurricane is to ask 1-2 of your favourite girls to move in to your room with you so that they stay during the whole period, because you will be unlikely to find many other options around once the torrential rainfall starts.

I learnt that lesson the hard way...

Good idea, hem up that "rainy day" chocha.

[Beads]

I heard all flights to south america will be cancelled from late today until this hurricane thing is all finished up by next weekend. :rofl: :rofl:

[solrasiul]

Huracan Dean
La Romana, RD

http://espanol.weather.com/maps/actividades/intlesquiymontana/amrccaribsatlite_large_animated.html

[blacksultan]

I heard all flights to south america will be cancelled from late today until this hurricane thing is all finished up by next weekend. :rofl: :rofl:

That shit aint funny.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :icontd:

[solrasiul]

http://espanol.weather.com/maps/actividades/intlesquiymontana/amrccaribsatlite_large_animated.html

the aye pass to sur of Dominican Rep

[Beads]

Huracan Dean
La Romana, RD

http://espanol.weather.com/maps/actividades/intlesquiymontana/amrccaribsatlite_large_animated.html

hrmm I wonder what that means?

[blacksultan]

http://espanol.weather.com/maps/actividades/intlesquiymontana/amrccaribsatlite_large_animated.html

the aye pass to sur of Dominican Rep

The south coast is definitely going to catch it somewhat based on the satellite data.

[Rocky]

Rocky,

Everyone knows that hurricanes can hit the entire North Coast, and Sosua is no exception.

I was unfortunate enough to witness this myself in September 2004 as I was in Sosua when hurricane Jeanne hit the DR. Samana was the most damaged, but it also affected many other towns, including Sosua (blown down trees, torn off roofs, flooding, etc).

According to what some locals told me, Jeanne was relatively mild compared to other hurricanes that they had seen in the town in the past.

And for those who are curious: yes, when a hurricane hits the town it spoils the fun for a few days because most girls don’t like to get out of their houses while there are 70-80 mph winds or 2-day long, non-stop torrential rains.Actually, everybody who knows, could tell you that Jeanne was NOT a hurricane when she came through here at tropical storm level.
She picked up strength when out to see and regained hurricane status and whacked the heck out of the US's Eastern seaboard,
I have lived here for 16 years, never seen a hurricane, and I know nobody who knows of one that ever hit Sosua, although there may be one on record somewhere.

[Rocky]

There seems to be some folks who are under the impression that Dean is coming though the DR, which it is not.
Here's it's present track.
The Barahona area may take a bit of a hit, but certainly not dead on.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/rockybar/25600x256.jpg

[Apos]

the north coast has felt the effects of hurricanes and tropical storms but
i can find nothing on record of a direct hit on the Sosua area...ever.

[psriches]

For those who don't already know, Sosua and surrounding areas never get hit by hurricanes.
At best, we get storms as a result of them passing by.Yes, it doesn't happen often but the North can get hit just like everywhere else.

Below, some posts on other sites about September 2004 Tropical Storm Jeanne which hit the entire north coast of DR. I had just left before it hit but i think Knotty was caught!!!!!

"Jeanne has arrived. Sosua has been getting wind for the past several hours, but not like now, as Gringo and Eddy have reported.

True the winds have dropped to 65 mph sustained, but I'm not complaining. The NHC is very surprised that we are getting that much wind since the storm has been over land for more than 24 hours:

IT IS KIND OF SURPRISING THAT JEANNE HAS KEPT SUCH A WELL-DEFINED CLOUD PATTERN AFTER BEING OVER LAND FOR ABOUT A DAY. INITIAL INTENSITY HAS BEEN ADJUSTED DOWN TO 55 KNOTS BASED ON A MAX WIND FROM THE RECON OF 63 KNOTS. IT APPEARS THAT
JEANNE WILL BE INTERACTING WITH HISPANIOLA FOR 12 MORE HOURS AND IF
SURVIVES...IT COULD REGAIN HURRICANE STATUS AS INDICATED IN THE
OFFICIAL FORECAST. IT IS GOOD TO POINT OUT THAT...HISTORICALLY...
NOT MANY TROPICAL CYCLONES SURVIVE THE PATH ACROSS THE HIGH TERRAIN OF HISPANIOLA. "

"One of the maintenance men for our condo in Sosua just reported for work. He said he saw many trees, branches, signs, etc., on the ground on his way to work in his car. The night man can't leave because public transportation isn't running. Maybe just as well. His home isn't much better than a campesino's casita."

"As of the 8:00am advisories, Jeanne is still inland less than 10 miles south of Luperon and Cabo Isabela. She will probably head out to sea on her current track of 300 degrees at 8 mph. The bad news is that the winds to the southeast of the storm are twice as strong as those to the southwest so the North Coast from Cabo Isabela down to Nagua is probably being hammered pretty badly as we speak."

"It's 10:08 here in POP and it's just as bad as it's been all since he middle of the night. IT IS CERTAINLY NOT LETTING UP HERE."

"Just walked to Playero Supermarket on the highway and back.

1. Traffic light suspended over intersection by Playero and Bommarito buildings is gone.

2. Branches down all over town. Trees, too,in some locations

3. Biggest problem that I saw is Pedro Clisante, the main street through the center of Sosua. The street is full of branches, downed trees and trees leaning against the power lines. Lots of people cleaning it up, including police and firemen, but I doubt if cars will be able to get through the street tomorrow, and it will be awhile before power to those businesses is restored. Power lines not knocked down by falling branches and trees are being knocked down by the falling trees that are being cut down because they are partially uprooted and leaning against the power lines."

"Most all the trees over the road between Cabarete and Sosua have been cleared - I estimate there must have been 30 or more trees blocking the road. The power and telephone lines, poles and infrastructure is quite damaged with power poles and power lines just everywhere. I saw cars with pieces of store signage sticking our of their roofs and bodies.

The Cabarete main street still looks like the remnants of a war zone. Many little stores around the main road are now beginning to open however. Many cleanup crews around and many people doing repairs and reparations. It will be a number of days I think before the power and telephone situation is restored to normal.

Going into ProCab was quite shock. There must be at least 5 power/telephone poles lying across the road (now pushed out of the way a little) and power/telephone lines everywhere. I saw one house with quite a large tree sticking out of its roof. There is quite a bit of flooding and my granddaughter (3) pointed out the road to me, saying "See, this is now my river!"

Even so, there were many tourists around walking around the debris, ducking under precariously hanging signs and trying to buy stuff on the main street. People seem to be going about their business, whether it is cleanup, hanging around with a beer in the hand, or playing tourist, quite happily.

Lots of damage in Cabarete."

"But in looking at the damage close to home around Sosua, it can never be said that 'it's only a tropical storm'. And we certainly got the least of it, even in comparison to Cabarete, by Chris's report. I will do my part in future to emphasize the destructive potential, now that I've seen it with my own eyes.

What is awesome and terrifying is that it's all fluke, exactly where the wind lands its fiercest blows. I guess tornados are even worse for pinpoint destruction. I wonder if there were mini tornados mixed up with this storm while it was blowing?

I know very little about it, but now I understand why those who've been here a while and the sailors among us are so well informed as to the nature of storms.

It is also disheartening to know that the destruction continues well after the wind dies, by way of floods and potentially much greater loss of life."

"And that is exactly what I will take away from this experience - this sentence has been going over and over in my mind for the past two days. It is not "only a tropical storm". "Only a tropical storm" does not take away houses, flood housing developments and create the destruction that I've seen travelling through Puerto Plata, Sosua and Cabarete. sjh down in Nagua, does not have a roof left on any of his farm structures. This was a serious storm, and I will remember how it was downgraded to a tropical storm, when the winds were blowing 4 miles less than hurricane strength, and people felt relieved. "

http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/imagehosting/420946c7264096fb7.gif

[Gladiator]

Actually, everybody who knows, could tell you that Jeanne was NOT a hurricane when she came through here at tropical storm level.
She picked up strength when out to see and regained hurricane status and whacked the heck out of the US's Eastern seaboard,
I have lived here for 16 years, never seen a hurricane, and I know nobody who knows of one that ever hit Sosua, although there may be one on record somewhere.

It is no secret that hurricanes weaken when they touch land, and Jeanne touched land in the east of the island so it went down from category 3 to tropical storm along its way. When it hit Haiti it was even weaker than it was in Sosua and it killed about 3,000 people because of their crap infrastructures.

Anyway, my point was that your statement that ‘Sosua and surrounding areas never get hit by hurricanes’ is not true.

Let me refresh your memory a bit, read this advisory at the time for Jeanne (2004):

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2004/pub/al112004.public_a.012.shtml

Do you see the sentence ‘A HURRICANE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT IN THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC FROM PUERTO PLATA TO ISLA SAONA’?

Sosua was included in the hurricane warning area according to the NHC, and do you know why? Because Sosua can also be hit by hurricanes, in the same way as any other town on the island.

[psriches]

There seems to be some folks who are under the impression that Dean is coming though the DR, which it is not.
Here's it's present track.
The Barahona area may take a bit of a hit, but certainly not dead on.
I don't think there's anyone here that thinks Dean will hit DR. Most posts that i'm reading state it will pass to the south of the island. This is just a thread about a Hurricane that will pass close to OUR home so it interests some of us!!

[Apos]

yes, gladiator, "could be" but doesn't ever seem to be...and THAT'S probably the whole point.

any damage in the Sosua area is historically and relatively very light compared to Haiti and other parts of the DR.

[Rocky]

Anyway, my point was that your statement that ‘Sosua and surrounding areas never get hit by hurricanes’ is not true. Care to back up those words with proof of a recent hurricane?


Let me refresh your memory a bit, read this advisory at the time for Jeanne (2004): Let me refresh your memory a bit.
I spoke about hurricanes, and you are talking about a tropical storm.


http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2004/pub/al112004.public_a.012.shtml

Do you see the sentence ‘A HURRICANE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT IN THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC FROM PUERTO PLATA TO ISLA SAONA’? A hurricane warning, is just that.
A warning.
As you well know, Jeanne was a tropical storm when it came through here.
There is a difference, you know.


Sosua was included in the hurricane warning area according to the NHC, and do you know why? Because Sosua can also be hit by hurricanes, in the same way as any other town on the island. It may happen one day, and it may have even happened once in the past.
I have never seen one nor heard have one.
Have you?

[Rocky]

I don't think there's anyone here that thinks Dean will hit DR. Most posts that i'm reading state it will pass to the south of the island. This is just a thread about a Hurricane that will pass close to OUR home so it interests some of us!!Just trying to get the right info out.
There were a few post ealier on in this thread showing concern of a direct hit, crossing the mountains etc.
Some people might change their travel plans for nothing, if they thought there was a danger to our area, so it needed to be cleared up.

[Rocky]

For those who are interested, after searching Google for any documented huricane having ever hit Sosua, so far, the only thing I have found is on this website,
http://www.sherburneassociates.com/rental.htm

The North Central Coast has never had a hurricane hit it directly.
but I will keep on searching and report if I find one.

http://www.caribholiday.net/FAQ%20Body.htm

However, the north coast of the Dominican Republic has not had major damage from a hurricane in the last 100 years so chances are you don't have to be concerned.

[KoKi9290]

Rocky
Are you guys seeing any feeder bands yet? The satellite imagery shows them starting to come thru but you can't always gauge their intensity.

[Don Tomas]

Then they need to evacuate Galveston now!!!!!!!

I am not saying the past dictates the future but no hurricane on the current path has ever hit the US. Now maybe exacuating coastal areas in Mexico would be a better idea.

[Rocky]

Rocky
Are you guys seeing any feeder bands yet? The satellite imagery shows them starting to come thru but you can't always gauge their intensity.If you're a DR1 member, you could pose that question to Chris.
She's an expert on these matters.
http://www.dr1.com/forums/weather-beyond/65445-hurricane-dean-25.html#post549219

[KoKi9290]

Nothing technical. Feeder bands are just lines of thunderstorms with short term high winds that roll thru in a line pattern. The imagery shows them just reaching you guys. Sometimes they're torrential and sometimes just windy.

[Rocky]

Nothing technical. Feeder bands are just lines of thunderstorms with short term high winds that roll thru in a line pattern. The imagery shows them just reaching you guys. Sometimes they're torrential and sometimes just windy.Well it's sunny with a normal breeze where I am, if that helps answer your question.

[Gladiator]

Care to back up those words with proof of a recent hurricane?


I think it is actually you who should show us some scientific article supporting your false statement: ‘Sosua and surrounding areas never get hit by hurricanes’.

I’ve already shown an advisory from the NHC as an example that, contrary to what you said, Sosua can be hit by hurricanes.

[Rocky]

I think it is actually you who should show us some scientific article supporting your false statement: ‘Sosua and surrounding areas never get hit by hurricanes’.

I’ve already shown an advisory from the NHC as an example that, contrary to what you said, Sosua can be hit by hurricanes.Is English your native tongue?
Let me explain to you that there is a big difference from someone saying it CAN be hit, and actually having been hit.
I have offered proof already.
Where's yours?
The only thing we know for sure, is that I proved you wrong about Jeanne.

[Rocky]

Is English your native tongue?
Let me explain to you that there is a big difference from someone saying it CAN be hit, and actually having been hit.
I have offered proof already.
Where's yours?
The only thing we know for sure, is that I proved you wrong about Jeanne.

PS: You can be hung by your toes from a cherry tree, but this does not mean you ever have been.

[Gladiator]

Is English your native tongue?
Let me explain to you that there is a big difference from someone saying it CAN be hit, and actually having been hit.


So you actually meant ‘I’ve never seen a hurricane in Sosua’, well that’s quite different from what your original statement implied – thanks for correcting yourself and clarifying what you meant.

On a different note, let’s not forget that tropical storms can fuck up your holiday in the same way as a hurricane: several days of mongering activities suspended.

[Rocky]

So you actually meant ‘I’ve never seen a hurricane in Sosua’, well that’s quite different from what your original statement implied – thanks for correcting yourself and clarifying what you meant.
Don't even pretend to know what I mean when I say something.
You're not even bright enough to put forth a valid argument, let alone read between the lines of what I say.
I meant exactly what I said and I said what I meant.
We dont get hit by hurricanes here in Sosua and surrounding areas.
You got a beef with that?
Prove me wrong.
But bring your IQ with you this time, because you didn't fair too well last time.

[psriches]

Still forecast to pass south of the island.

http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/imagehosting/420946c734096e190.jpg

[Apos]

i don't recall, no do i find, that Rocky said that Sosua couldn't get hit by a hurricane, just that it never has.

while never is a long time i still don't see any proof to the contrary...
just a bunch of the old "baffle them with bullshit" from the naysayer(s).

also safe to assume that any reasonable person reading "never hit by a hurricane"
would realize that that may also imply never in the posters experience.

although i still don't see anyone showing when Sosua has been hit by a hurricane...anyone?

[Rocky]

Still forecast to pass south of the island.

Someone on DR1 mentioned a rumour that Dean was taking a slight turn to the North, which it appears to be doing now,
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/loop-wv.html
but unless it changes radically, I can't see that it would cross an DR territory, but it may touch onto Haiti.

[Gladiator]

Don't even pretend to know what I mean when I say something.
You're not even bright enough to put forth a valid argument, let alone read between the lines of what I say.
I meant exactly what I said and I said what I meant.
We dont get hit by hurricanes here in Sosua and surrounding areas.
You got a beef with that?
Prove me wrong.
But bring your IQ with you this time, because you didn't fair too well last time.

If you had my IQ you wouldn’t be locked cooking meals in a kitchen in a developing country, you would have done better in life, that's for sure.

[Apos]

or by your balls :rolleyes:...now where is that pic again? :lol:
PS: You can be hung by your toes from a cherry tree, but this does not mean you ever have been.
http://modblog.bmezine.com/wp-content/uploads/200701081408-pix2.jpg
not the one i was looking for but...ouch :eek:

[Apos]

oh my...and i suppose you have a bigger DICK too! :rolleyes::lol::p:p:rofl:
If you had my IQ you wouldn’t be locked cooking meals in a kitchen in a developing country, you would have done better in life, that's for sure.
http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/imagehosting/340146c7380d367db.jpg

[psriches]

I think we should just let this go if the parties agree.

I understand both perspectives. And i think they are both correct in their points.

Rocky indicates that Sosua never gets hit with Hurricanes. Ok fine! While this is in fact true, it can be misunderstood as, "it could never happen". And this is false as Gladiator points out.

So why would Rocky's point or statement be misunderstood? Because we are all human.

We've all stated our points and i won't let this turn into a pissing match!!

SO LET IT GO!!!

[Rocky]

I think we should just let this go if the parties agree.

I understand both perspectives. And i think they are both correct in their points.

Rocky indicates that Sosua never gets hit with Hurricanes. Ok fine! While this is in fact true, it can be misunderstood as, "it could never happen". And this is false as Gladiator points out.

So why would Rocky's point or statement be misunderstood? Because we are all human.

We've all stated our points and i won't let this turn into a pissing match!!Very well.
I'm always open to doing things for the greater good.
I do take exception to someone basically calling me a liar, specially someone who is misinformed, has no knowledge on the subject, and is too stubborn to admit when he is wrong.
If the rules of the game are that would take abuse from a mentally challenged person, then so be it, but I will not be playing.
I have joined this thread to keep all good members of ISOC informed about the storm, as I am on site, and that's what's expected of me.
If my info is challenged and I prove the person wrong, then you come in and say let's call it off, then that means that we are prepared to tolerate assholes with no brains dictating what is written in this forum.
Like I said, if those are the rules here, then so be it, but I ain't playing the game.
It's your call.

[Rocky]

Rocky indicates that Sosua never gets hit with Hurricanes. Ok fine! While this is in fact true, it can be misunderstood as, "it could never happen". And this is false as Gladiator points out. Gladiator has offered no proof whatsoever to that effect, while I have presented proof that we do not get hit by hurricanes.
If gladiator misunderstood me, send him back to school.
I said what I meant and meant what I said.

[psriches]

If my info is challenged and I prove the person wrong. then you come in and say let's call it off, then that means that we are prepared to tolerate assholes with no brains dictating what is written in this forum.
Like I said, if those are the rules here, then so be it, but I ain't playing the game.
It's your call.You're right, it is my call Rocky!

You both made very valid points and it turned into a mini debate within the thread which is ok. But then it got personal, very nasty and nothing further was gained or learned. On top of that, you have a third party enter with nothing to offer but instigation. So at this point i think it should be "called off".

[psriches]

Gladiator has offered no proof whatsoever to that effect, while I have presented proof that we do not get hit by hurricanes.
If gladiator misunderstood me, send him back to school.
I said what I meant and meant what I said.Come on Rocky! Do you really think that it is not possible for Sosua to get hit by a Hurricane? That's all he was saying, that it was possible!

I think you've both thrown enough shots at each other. Now let's get back to keeping "ALL good members of ISOC informed" about Dean!!

[Wops Need Love]

Current weather in wops world, wind sse from 160 @ 18, moderate shower decreased from significant, sky clearing to the south.
If it keeps this shit up, i'm leaving the pool.

[Apos]

at the risk of being immodest i thank you! :lol:

i had no idea you though i had so much power. :rolleyes:

contrary to your assertion i think i offered clarity in the midst of obfuscation...but i don't expect you to agree.
You're right, it is my call Rocky!

You both made very valid points and it turned into a mini debate within the thread which is ok. But then it got personal, very nasty and nothing further was gained or learned. On top of that, you have a third party enter with nothing to offer but instigation. So at this point i think it should be "called off".

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/common/images/wskies/e.jpg

62°F
Partly cloudy

Wind (http://www.theweathernetwork.com/index.php?product=glossary&placecode=caon0512&pagecontent=wind) W 15m/h Wind gusts (http://www.theweathernetwork.com/index.php?product=glossary&placecode=caon0512&pagecontent=gust) 15m/h Relative Humidity (http://www.theweathernetwork.com/index.php?product=glossary&placecode=caon0512&pagecontent=relativehumidity) 48% Dewpoint (http://www.theweathernetwork.com/index.php?product=glossary&placecode=caon0512&pagecontent=dewpoint) 42°F Pressure (http://www.theweathernetwork.com/index.php?product=glossary&placecode=caon0512&pagecontent=pressure) 1,022.10 mb http://www.theweathernetwork.com/common/images/wicons/pressure2.gif Visibility (http://www.theweathernetwork.com/index.php?product=glossary&placecode=caon0512&pagecontent=visibility) 19.9 miles Ceiling (http://www.theweathernetwork.com/index.php?product=glossary&placecode=caon0512&pagecontent=ceiling) 4400 ft

things are looking just fine from where i'm at! :D

[Wops Need Love]

Wops world is currently between cloud bands, wind dropped to 6 with no rain.
gotta love it

[Don Tomas]

Sosua & Hurricanes:

I decided to check my Hurricane historical software and did a search for known hurricanes that came within 20 miles of Sosua.

Storm #4 9/26/1852 90 MPH winds
Storm #2 9/2/1896 100 MPH
Storm #3 8/10/1899 120 MPH
Storm #3 7/8/1901 75 MPH
Storm #6 9/1//1908 80 MPH
Eloise 9/17/1975 75 MPH (you should be able to find someone alive who will remember this one, 7 people dead in the DR)

There are also a dozen or so that ripped through the island but they were tropical depressions by the time they got to the north coast.

[Hunter]

Well back to Dean:

from Drudge:

FLASH: Could be unprecedented event for Jamaica; direct hit with 155 MPH sustained winds [topping Hurricane Gilbert's 135 MPH winds [Sept. 1988] and Charlie's 100 MPH winds in 1951]... Population of Jamaica is nearly 3 million people; and is 49th most densely-populated country in world...

Cat 5 is serious shit.............. Their is going to be unbeleivable property damage!!! Hopefully all the Jamaicans will head to higher ground.

[Beads]

by comparison to that storm size Jamaica looks tiny on the map. Not really much land to slow it up.

VERY dangerous to be in Jamaica when it hits. If it stays as strong as it is wait until it touches land in the US. Its going to cause major evacuations and after Katrina smart people are going to evacuate!

[Beads]

CNN is now reporting the hurricane could hit Haiti by morning....

"
A hurricane warning is also in effect for parts of Haiti (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/haiti), where the full force of the hurricane was expected near dawn on Sunday. But at midday Saturday, there were almost no signs that anyone was preparing for the oncoming storm in Port-au-Prince, the capital, said CNN's Karl Penhaul.
Because of the nation's poverty -- more than half of the population lives on less than a dollar a day -- most households can't afford wood to board windows, extra food and supplies, and other precautions, Penhaul said.
U.N. officials urged residents to seek shelter in churches and other sturdy buildings before dark. Several thousand people are expected to seek refuge in shelters opened on the southern edge of the island nation, disaster officials said.
Flights in and out of Port-au-Prince were canceled Saturday, meaning no one else was getting on or off the island. Rain had not yet begun to fall as of Saturday afternoon, Penhaul said, but storm clouds were gathering."



http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/18/storms/index.html

[ChicaSeeka]

spoke again tonight with a girlfriend in Santo domingo about 5 PM

light rain not too much wind , still had electricity and phones services
as we were on a videoconference via internet, so it apears at least that part of the island as well as all areas to the north and west are fine...

[Gladiator]

Sosua & Hurricanes:

I decided to check my Hurricane historical software and did a search for known hurricanes that came within 20 miles of Sosua.

Storm #4 9/26/1852 90 MPH winds
Storm #2 9/2/1896 100 MPH
Storm #3 8/10/1899 120 MPH
Storm #3 7/8/1901 75 MPH
Storm #6 9/1//1908 80 MPH
Eloise 9/17/1975 75 MPH (you should be able to find someone alive who will remember this one, 7 people dead in the DR)

There are also a dozen or so that ripped through the island but they were tropical depressions by the time they got to the north coast.

Thanks, DT, your findings will settle any doubts anyone might have: in Sosua not only can there be hurricanes in the future but there have also been a number of them in the past.

As Amiel said, truth is not only violated by falsehood, it may be equally outraged by silence.

Back on topic, I wouldn’t like to be in Jamaica in the next few days, or anywhere near Dean’s path for that matter.

This pic of Dean is impressive:

http://www.nnvl.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/index.cgi?page=items&ser=111962


I also like this interactive graphic about hurricanes formation (just hit the forward arrow).


http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2003/graficos/jun/s2/huracan.html

[Don Tomas]

spoke again tonight with a girlfriend in Santo domingo about 5 PM

light rain not too much wind , still had electricity and phones services
as we were on a videoconference via internet, so it apears at least that part of the island as well as all areas to the north and west are fine...

That is contrary to videos and pictures that are being sent into the Weather Channel, they have had some showing some destruction in Santo Domingo.

[psriches]

Ken Kaye | Sun-Sentinel.com 6:30 PM EDT, August 18, 2007

In Santo Domingo, the capital of the Dominican Republic, an 11-year-old boy was killed by flying debris while watching large waves strike an oceanfront boulevard, the Dominican emergency operations center reported.

[Beads]

Ken Kaye | Sun-Sentinel.com 6:30 PM EDT, August 18, 2007

In Santo Domingo, the capital of the Dominican Republic, an 11-year-old boy was killed by flying debris while watching large waves strike an oceanfront boulevard, the Dominican emergency operations center reported.

I read that too. There has to be some type of wind/rain on the south coast.

I hope the haitians are heading away from their south coast before dawn.

Weyland there could be loads of needy Hatianas tommorrow!

[rley69]

Hang on a minute, there is a big difference between "came within twenty miles of" and a direct hit. To put this is context, Puerto Plata is twenty or so kilometres from Sosua, so twenty miles would be a good bit further still.

But this whole thread is getting too technical. Surely what we really want to see here are (preferably first hand) accounts of what actually happens over the next few days. As Amiel also said, analysis kills spontaneity.

[ChicaSeeka]

That is contrary to videos and pictures that are being sent into the Weather Channel, they have had some showing some destruction in Santo Domingo.

well maybe so, for some parts
But on Avenida gomez en Santo domingo at the internet center by her home it was not so bad at 5 PM and that is as first hand a report as they come...and can't say for other parts of the city outskirts and certainly if a tradgety occured as reported by fying debris while watching the ocean, they certainly were not in the city ceter of Santo Domingo , cause last i checked the beach was not outside the hotel I'm going to be staying at ...And yes I do live on the north east coast and when a hurricane is even within -500 miles away the surf, wind and waves are ussually the most dangerous place to be at.

[psriches]

Hang on a minute, there is a big difference between "came within twenty miles of" and a direct hit. To put this is context, Puerto Plata is twenty or so kilometres from Sosua, so twenty miles would be a good bit further still.

But this whole thread is getting too technical. Surely what we really want to see here are (preferably first hand) accounts of what actually happens over the next few days. As Amiel also said, analysis kills spontaneity.the point is it's POSSIBLE.........

[ChicaSeeka]

well maybe so, for some parts
But on Avenida gomez en Santo domingo at the internet center by her home it was not so bad at 5 PM and that is as first hand a report as they come...and can't say for other parts of the city outskirts and certainly if a tradgety occured as reported by fying debris while watching the ocean, they certainly were not in the city ceter of Santo Domingo , cause last i checked the beach was not outside the hotel I'm going to be staying at ...And yes I do live on the north east coast and when a hurricane is even within -500 miles away the surf, wind and waves are ussually the most dangerous place to be at.

But also thank you for your input, as you get it from the media it may be a bit different not to say it's not accurate..

[psriches]

The beach at Juan Dolio, just east of Boca Chica.

Today, 5:45pm

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h240/obsti/juandolio3.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h240/obsti/juandolio2.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h240/obsti/juandolio1.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h240/obsti/juandolio5.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h240/obsti/juandolio4.jpg

[MisterPink]

I did not know you lived in Juan Dolio, thanks for the photos and stay dry.

mp

[Don Tomas]

Hang on a minute, there is a big difference between "came within twenty miles of" and a direct hit. To put this is context, Puerto Plata is twenty or so kilometres from Sosua, so twenty miles would be a good bit further still.

Do you know how wide a hurricane is? A lot more then 20 miles!

I should have clarified my statement....

I decided to check my Hurricane historical software and did a search for known hurricanes that THEIR EYE came within 20 miles of Sosua.

PS. I was being very conservative using a 20 mile radius as a search...

[Gladiator]

Do you know how wide a hurricane is? A lot more then 20 miles!

I should have clarified my statement....

I decided to check my Hurricane historical software and did a search for known hurricanes that THEIR EYE came within 20 miles of Sosua.

PS. I was being very conservative using a 20 mile radius as a search...

20 miles radius was certainly a conservative search, because in fact eyes’ average diameters are 20-30 miles, with rain bands extending up to a diameter of 340 miles.

http://scifiles.larc.nasa.gov/kids/Problem_Board/problems/weather/hurricanebasics.swf

[3somefan]

Guys...

Just got back from the titty bar and noticed where this thread is heading...

I did not mean for this to cause a argument, just wanted to inform people on the dangers if they were there or in the area. Thanks to all that contributed information, whether that is firsthand or just knowledge!

[psriches]

I did not know you lived in Juan Dolio, thanks for the photos and stay dry.

mpI'm not at Juan Dolio. Passed the photos along from someone who is staying there.

[psriches]

Saturday 8:30pm

http://news.insearchofchicas.org/forum/imagehosting/420946c7997e16fc0.jpg

[ChicaSeeka]

I again am speaking with my girl via videoconference in santo domingo right now and all services are up and running in the city proper with little or no damages reported 10:00 PM EST

[Rocky]

Sosua & Hurricanes:

I decided to check my Hurricane historical software and did a search for known hurricanes that came within 20 miles of Sosua.

Eloise 9/17/1975 75 MPH (you should be able to find someone alive who will remember this one, 7 people dead in the DR).
Eloise was a tropical storm, NOT A HURRICANE when it passed over the North coast of the DR, as confirmed by the links below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Eloise_1975_track.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffir-Simpson_Hurricane_Scale

If this is the data that lends suppost to gladiator's misinformation, it sux big time.

[Rocky]

Thanks, DT, your findings will settle any doubts anyone might have: in Sosua not only can there be hurricanes in the future but there have also been a number of them in the past.

Imagine that, you feeling vindicated by DT's misinformation.
Take a good look at the erroneous info.
And you're too dumb to do your own research, or maybe just too incompetent, or maybe you did try and found out there have been no documented hurricanes in Sosua and you're just too much of an asshole to admit it.

[Gladiator]

Imagine that, you feeling vindicated by DT's misinformation.
Take a good look at the erroneous info.
And you're too dumb to do your own research, or maybe just too incompetent, or maybe you did try and found out there have been no documented hurricanes in Sosua and you're just too much of an asshole to admit it.

rocky,

I think you need to get out of the kitchen more often.

As for Sosua hurricanes information, please read below, it was all settled. If you read it but still can’t understand it, I’d suggest you join an evening English course in Sosua or PP, if you have the time and can afford it.

[Rocky]

rocky,

I think you need to get out of the kitchen more often.

As for Sosua hurricanes information, please read below, it was all settled. If you read it but still can’t understand it, I’d suggest you join an evening English course in Sosua or PP, if you have the time and can afford it.It was all settled in your small feeble mind, with erroneous information.
Are you truly too dumb to look at those links and see that you are wrong?

[Rocky]

As for Sosua hurricanes information, please read below, it was all settled. If you read it but still can’t understand it, I’d suggest you join an evening English course in Sosua or PP, if you have the time and can afford it.So apart from Eloise in '75 that
clearly was a tropical storm across the entire DR, the previous storm mentioned was in 1908, lol.
As if they had the equipment in those days to measure wind speeds and the like of passing hurricanes.lol.
In other words there has not been one single documented hurricane that hit Sosua in all of history.
And I defy you to prove me wrong, you poor feeble minded loser.


Storm #4 9/26/1852 90 MPH winds
Storm #2 9/2/1896 100 MPH
Storm #3 8/10/1899 120 MPH
Storm #3 7/8/1901 75 MPH
Storm #6 9/1//1908 80 MPH
Eloise 9/17/1975 75 MPH (you should be able to find someone alive who will remember this one, 7 people dead in the DR)

[Apos]

too proud to admit when your wrong Glad? :eek::lol::rolleyes::rofl:

never fear "the truth is out there",
http://ezri.50megs.com/tagline/the%20truth.jpg
http://ezri.50megs.com/tagline/xfilesopen.jpg
in the links, for all to see,
even if you're unable to admit the truth and apologize like you should.

checkmate brother :p

[Rocky]

So now it's time to say goodbye to Mickey and all his friends, M I C, K EY , M O U S E.
For you fellows who are quite normal and just wanted to get updated on Dean, please excuse me for hijacking this thread.
It was my intention to give as much accurate info as I could, which I did, until gladiator decided to challenge the info I posted.
I don't mind being challenged, but when I prove my point and the dufus still goes on arguing he's right, then gets support from a mod, then DT himself comes on and posts more misinformation to support gladiator's mistaken claims, then I know it's time for me to leave and go somewhere where there are normal people who appreciate good info.
It's been a slice, thanks for the fun.
Regards, Marco.

[Apos]

too bad your info is inaccurate, eh? :rolleyes::rofl::p
Do you know how wide a hurricane is? A lot more then 20 miles!

I should have clarified my statement....

I decided to check my Hurricane historical software and did a search for known hurricanes that THEIR EYE came within 20 miles of Sosua.

PS. I was being very conservative using a 20 mile radius as a search...

[Apos]

So now it's time to say goodbye to Mickey and all his friends, M I C, K EY , M O U S E.
For you fellows who are quite normal and just wanted to get updated on Dean, please excuse me for hijacking this thread.
It was my intention to give as much accurate info as I could, which I did, until gladiator decided to challenge the info I posted.
I don't mind being challenged, but when I prove my point and the dufus still goes on arguing he's right, then gets support from a mod, then DT himself comes on and posts more misinformation to support gladiator's mistaken claims, then I know it's time for me to leave and go somewhere where there are normal people who appreciate good info.
It's been a slice, thanks for the fun.
Regards, Marco.y yo tambien...adios

[blacksultan]

All of this silly ass arguing about hurricanes and where they might land and where they have landed is fruitless. All hurricanes have general characteristics that typify them; however, they are tropical depressions that have extremely unpredictable patterns of movement. All storm related weather phenomenon consist of rapidly changing variables that can be difficult to record and predict and a hurricane is one of them (determining where a tornado will touch down is even more daunting). Warm water to a hurricane is like gasoline to a fire. Shifts (increases) in ocean temperature in different areas of the ocean might be a good indicator of where a hurricane might move but then you have to take into account changes in air pressure, humidity, wind speed (which is ultimately determined by air pressure) and air temperature. Changes in one of these variables can have profound changes on all the others. Thank goodness I am on my way to get some Colombiana chocha today. Hey that rhymes.

[Wops Need Love]

For the apparent brain dead of which gladiator tops the list with psriches in hot pursuit, I offer the following proof of Eloise track. As reference, I give you http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/at19755.asp
If you will observe the only two days Eloise was in close proximity to the north coast of DR was 9-16 and 9-17. If you make a course plot, a person of average intelligence, which eliminates gladiator, would clearly discern that Eloise did not make it within 20 miles.

[Wops Need Love]

I think the center will pass just to the south of DR. Although, the strongest wind gusts are usually found on the northern side of Hurricane rotations.
Not totally true. Strongest winds are found on the advancing right forward quadrant. Hurricanes do move south and east at times.

[Don Tomas]

too bad your info is inaccurate, eh? :rolleyes::rofl::p


So now it's time to say goodbye to Mickey and all his friends, M I C, K EY , M O U S E.
For you fellows who are quite normal and just wanted to get updated on Dean, please excuse me for hijacking this thread.
It was my intention to give as much accurate info as I could, which I did, until gladiator decided to challenge the info I posted.
I don't mind being challenged, but when I prove my point and the dufus still goes on arguing he's right, then gets support from a mod, then DT himself comes on and posts more misinformation to support gladiator's mistaken claims, then I know it's time for me to leave and go somewhere where there are normal people who appreciate good info.
It's been a slice, thanks for the fun.
Regards, Marco.

Rocky sent me a PM, just for reference sake I got my information from here:

http://maps.csc.noaa.gov/hurricanes/viewer.html

Hmm who to trust, Wikipedia or the agency responsible for tracking hurricanes....

PS. I will consoldate one matter to Rocky the next reading which was still within 20 miles of Sosua, but west, was 70 MPH, not a Hurricane, but never the less it arrived as a Hurricane according to Long/Lat at the above mentioned tracking site!

[Rocky]

Rocky sent me a PM, just for reference sake I got my information from here:

http://maps.csc.noaa.gov/hurricanes/viewer.html

Hmm who to trust, Wikipedia or the agency responsible for tracking hurricanes....

PS. I will consoldate one matter to Rocky the next reading which was still within 20 miles of Sosua, but west, was 70 MPH, not a Hurricane, but never the less it arrived as a Hurricane according to Long/Lat at the above mentioned tracking site!
The real point is that gladiator had no idea what he was talking about, insisted in basically calling me a liar, acted like a total jerk when asked for proof, trying to sidestep the issue, (as there is no clear proof of a hurricane ever hitting Sosua) just for the sake of his big inflated ego.
The original statement I made was for the greater good.
It is a point of interest and safety for any and all ISOC members to know thart Sosua and surrounding areas do not get hit by hurricanes.
If one member acts like a jerk and gets put in his place for doing so, that's just part of life on a public forum, but when a mod comes on and backs him up in his misinformation and attack, then I know it's time to leave.

I know I'm nobody special in this world, but I have brought a lot of good Sosua and general DR info to this site.
I have accomodated many member's requests for special favours, as I am here in place.
I have also brought a fair bit of levity to this site, something that is sorely needed, and if the mods are willing to kiss some member's ass and foresake me and the value of what I brought to this site, then they can live with that decision forever, because I sure as hell am not going to want to contribute here anymore.

When honour and integrity don't count for anything, all is lost.



Tropical storm status of Eloise, also confirmed on this site. (Yellow track represents tropical storm level)
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1975/index.html
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/rockybar/track600x480.jpg

[psriches]

I think we should just let this go if the parties agree.

I understand both perspectives. And i think they are both correct in their points.

Rocky indicates that Sosua never gets hit with Hurricanes. Ok fine! While this is in fact true, it can be misunderstood as, "it could never happen". Rocky, i'm not sure what your issue is exactly because i backed you up as well. You were 100% correct in your first statements about Dean. What we didn't need was the three of you throwing shots at each other (re-read the thread). It's that simple. When i get into a pissing match with others, MODs come to me (as i expect they would) and tell me to cut the shit out. And i do!

Nothing wrong with a good debate. I was just trying to keep it clean. You both got a chance to throw some shots at each other. And it was time to quit. So just handle it!!!!!

[psriches]

Not totally true. Strongest winds are found on the advancing right forward quadrant. Hurricanes do move south and east at times.Your statement is correct but the eye was located about 160 miles to the south of DR.

[Rocky]

Rocky, i'm not sure what your issue is exactly because i backed you up as well. You were 100% correct in your first statements about Dean. What we didn't need was the three of you throwing shots at each other. It's that simple. When i get into a pissing match with others, MODs come to me (as i expect they would) and tell me to cut the shit out. And i do!

Nothing wrong with a good debate. I was just trying to understand. So just handle it!!!!!There was no 3 of us, unless you include yourself.
I've never been a mod, but had I been in your position, I would have either straightened out gladiola on the mainboard or in private by PM.
His whole argument that I was wrong based on his erroneous info about Jeanne was quickly cleared up.
He went on the attack, and, as I am not a doormat for his abuse, I responded.
If you are incapable of resolving problems at the source and think that just telling people to calm down is the solution, then you can understand why I no longer wish to participate on ISOC.

That's probably good news for you, as I clearly don't take guff from anybody, and it may just be less problematic for you for me to not be around.
I still believe that ISOC loses a valuable member as I leave, but, who knows... Maybe I just have too high an opinion of myself and my contributions.

[psriches]

Obviously you're quite bothered by this. I'll send you a PM.

[Rocky]

Obviously you're quite bothered by this. I'll send you a PM.
No need, thank you.
I've disabled the feature and am on my way out the door/retirement, whatever one might call it.
I wouldn't have even come back after making that decision, but the opportunity to prove gladiola wrong one more time, was too much for me to resist.
It's been a slice.

[psriches]

One last attempt!

In post#33, Rocky posted that Hurricanes don't hit Sosua.

Gladiator and others basically posted that it was possible.

Whether Gladiator or others had actual facts that a hurricane hit Sosua in the past was up for debate. The point was that IT WAS POSSIBLE.

Ok, the debate started and there is nothing wrong with a good debate.

In post #62, Rocky states, "care to back up those words".

In post #70, Gladiator states, "you should back up your words".

But as a moderator, i think it gets nasty in post #71 where Rocky states, "is english your native tongue?" Then it's followed up by post # 72 and 74.

Again, as a moderator i can see where this is heading. It's definitely turning into a pissing match. Then a 3rd a party gets involved and it only gets worse.

At that point i asked (very politely after backing up both Rocky and Glad) if both parties would agree to shut it down.

The point of this thread was to update members about Hurricane Dean. Enough said!!