06/2012 - Todo la Noche? Or Short Term, Which is Better?

[givengo440]

In my younger days that was my shit! To have a bad chica spend the night, but now a few hours unless I just have ta have her or we have a history together ST.

[The Sage]

What I've become in regard to TLNs is cheap. I just despise forking over 2500+ pesos for an unknown quantity. I'd much better prefer to test drive it at 1500 to see if we're compatible. Granted every blue moon the stars come together and I discover something with looks and a pleasant personality that I just got to have, but I'm definitely not leaving the crib with finding a TLN on my mind.

[el toro]

What I've become in regard to TLNs is cheap. I just despise forking over 2500+ pesos for an unknown quantity. I'd much better prefer to test drive it at 1500 to see if we're compatible. Granted every blue moon the stars come together and I discover something with looks and a pleasant personality that I just got to have, but I'm definitely not leaving the crib with finding a TLN on my mind.

That's why your the professor of economics!

[getrhythm]

Again a case for short term vs. TLN.

The recent case involving Terra Linda - keep these chicas the fuck out of your room for TLN - unless you have already been with them numerous times for ST - 100% more chance for throuble if you do a TLN straight from Classicos or the street - without prior experience with the chica...

Chicas can sniff out someone they feel they can scam....

I don't necessarily think the fact that someone negotiates a TLN is really the tipping point. A chica can decide to scam you for almost any reason they can think of - and they can be very creative.

As much as Cuba Dave comes off like a tool at times, I'm beginning to think he may have a point with just doing Passions chicas (or maybe a Blackbeards-type set-up). The worst that's going to happen in that case is lousy service - even chicas that are born scammers are working under house constraints. You're not going to end up putting out more than you already paid, dealing with law enforcement, or having your room trashed.

[The Sage]

A good approach is to pay her what you think she is worth to you or as much as you're willing to lose just to have her. ST is no guarantee of no drama. However; the less you have invested the easier it is to let it go.

That's why your the professor of economics!

[TNT72]

Man, why the fuck did my brain die this particular morning??? How the hell did I not get her name or phone number!!!!!!!!

That changed this trip!!

[el toro]

That changed this trip!!

Since most of the time I'm thinking one and done with chicas I often realize after the fact that I wish I had gotten their number. I've gotten quite a few numbers in later trips from those that left without me taking the number initially. Sometimes it's not until the next trip when I realize that I'd like to repeat with one from before.

[Shogun Warrior]

Again, I am a fan of ST upfront. You gotta get a vibe for the chica. Yes this is turn and burn, catch and release but; it is done best in the short term enviroment. We negotiate a price, upfront. A few photos at the bar, club or hotel fully clothed. A tastefully done phot sends me signals as a "No Problemo Chica". If clean, fully clothed photos were refused before getting down to business, then I say you got a 50/50 chance for drama.

Once business is done here is where the 50/50 chance comes in. Was the agreed to price & payment accepted. YES or NO. If she balks and tries to change the deal afterwards then you got no photos, or positive ID to rat her out to the world AND SHE KNOWS THAT SHIT.

IF YOU GOT PHOTOS UPFRONT then it kind of gives you a better position to take the next step. The next step is (and only if) she was a great piece of ass..............would I then and only then would I go for TLN. I'm talking that offer only comes after she has FULLY dressed and ready to leave, money in hand.

"Momi, Toda La Nocha"

She may refuse for many reasons. Respect those reasons without question. ST Business deal done, no drama. She is gone. Go get another.

If she accepts you know what ya got. The next thing is how much to stay the night. Well if you got her swinging off some good dick, 9 times of of 10 whatever you already paid is a done deal for the rest of the night and the morning fuck. But do take her to breakfast and give her some of your clothes to wear to make her feel comfortable. If she is looking for more money then the choice is yours. Is she worth it. Yes or No. Again 9 times out of 10 you price will be far less than what you expected.

[greydread]

I feel you on that. I like the chicas that have that nice natural curly hair that even when they've straightened it out they don't mind jumping in the pool or shower and just wearing it curly after that.

In the US I seem to date "weave queens" I call them for some reason. My ex taught me more shit about a black womans hair and weaves than any man should know. I want a chic with dreads or a natural now.

Yeah buddy.

Once you've bought $200 a pack natural Indian hair online you're toast. 6' tall, black as night, bald headed with long legs, thick coolers and tig ole bitties for me, thank you. I'd lose my mind in Kenya!

[DCIronman]

Again, I am a fan of ST upfront. You gotta get a vibe for the chica. Yes this is turn and burn, catch and release but; it is done best in the short term enviroment. We negotiate a price, upfront. A few photos at the bar, club or hotel fully clothed. A tastefully done phot sends me signals as a "No Problemo Chica". If clean, fully clothed photos were refused before getting down to business, then I say you got a 50/50 chance for drama.

Once business is done here is where the 50/50 chance comes in. Was the agreed to price & payment accepted. YES or NO. If she balks and tries to change the deal afterwards then you got no photos, or positive ID to rat her out to the world AND SHE KNOWS THAT SHIT.

IF YOU GOT PHOTOS UPFRONT then it kind of gives you a better position to take the next step. The next step is (and only if) she was a great piece of ass..............would I then and only then would I go for TLN. I'm talking that offer only comes after she has FULLY dressed and ready to leave, money in hand.

"Momi, Toda La Nocha"

She may refuse for many reasons. Respect those reasons without question. ST Business deal done, no drama. She is gone. Go get another.

If she accepts you know what ya got. The next thing is how much to stay the night. Well if you got her swinging off some good dick, 9 times of of 10 whatever you already paid is a done deal for the rest of the night and the morning fuck. But do take her to breakfast and give her some of your clothes to wear to make her feel comfortable. If she is looking for more money then the choice is yours. Is she worth it. Yes or No. Again 9 times out of 10 you price will be far less than what you expected.

I gotta admit, I don't understand this. I know that everyone has their own style of doing things. But it just seems to me that you're taking something that's supposed to be extremely simple, and complicating it.

But then, my style and methods are different than most on this board. If it works for you, then more power to ya.

[The Sage]

I think I know here he's coming from though it is a bit of overkill in the described situation. At that point you're looking for a yes/no answer that is understood you have to accept. Now there are other situations where you may question her honesty regarding her breaking some part of your agreement. Recent events have validated that when that happens its probably best to let her ass bounce. That's why I think it is important not to invest more money on a chick than you're willing to lose.

I gotta admit, I don't understand this. I know that everyone has their own style of doing things. But it just seems to me that you're taking something that's supposed to be extremely simple, and complicating it.

But then, my style and methods are different than most on this board. If it works for you, then more power to ya.

[el toro]

I gotta admit, I don't understand this. I know that everyone has their own style of doing things. But it just seems to me that you're taking something that's supposed to be extremely simple, and complicating it.

But then, my style and methods are different than most on this board. If it works for you, then more power to ya.

It does sound like a lot to go through. IMO anything more than some conversation and enjoying a drink together to get a feel for a chica can make for an uncomfortable and hostile work environment for her and you.

Some mongers can mess up what potentially could have been a great session/experience with a chica, but insist on too much with the wrong one.

[Shogun Warrior]

I gotta admit, I don't understand this. I know that everyone has their own style of doing things. But it just seems to me that you're taking something that's supposed to be extremely simple, and complicating it.

But then, my style and methods are different than most on this board. If it works for you, then more power to ya.

Well,…….in light of the bullshit that chicas are doing toinclude starting out with a quote of $100.00 Short Time, I feel it prudent toput this out. Some guys don’t negotiate upfront. Why not? They feel they got the juice that all the chicas want. How many guys on this board or that you have ever met in the DR have juice like that? I assure you not many. Those that do more power to them.

At first meeting, some small chit chat, maybe some of my drink or split a grande Presidente with some various photos of her with her amigas, with me or her just solo sets a good vibe. A price is set and off we go. There is nothing “added” to this process that is in the hard category but the fact that I added photos to the process. Not really to brag to other fellas but first and foremost so I can ID the bitch if something goes wrong. In another thread how many post stated does anybody have a picture? Can you ID the bitch? Hell no! Does this work all the 100% of the time. Hell no! Nothing is foolproof.

However, the chances of drama are reduced significantly when pics are obtained upfront during an agreed upon ST. The monger has a better position to gauge how a chica is going to be when it gets down to conducting “The Designated Business” that she and all of us came to Sosua to do.

Denzel? No not me. Got a little Holyfield thing going on though. Pretty Ricky? Far from it and hell he’s got a stalker on his ass now. Remember I told ya’ll awhile back that Ole Henny refused pictures in public but continued to vibe with me all night including After 1. We got back to the room and then she immediately did an unrequested fashion shoot. Then came the bullshit; 2K for freaky freaky. At 2 AM?!!!?? Threw her out on her ass. Another chica I met on a recent trip, AKA “Miss Flower Girl” gave me pics back at the hotel by the pool. Got in the room and then…………………..she quoted $100.00 US Dollars. That was after an agreed $1000 PESO Short Time. Threw her ass out. Showed her the door so walk yo’ass back down them stairs and see yo’self out!! Sorry I deleted the pics. Yellow Bone with a fat ass with a fake flower in her hair. Hangs at Winner’s Circle.

Taking photos is just a precaution that I use to help fightback against the wave of chicas reneging on quoted prices with the threat ofextortion. I love “new pussy” and my rep speaks for itself. (Rick at Rocky's will vouch for me.) In light of this, I utilize my limited power in the DR to level my playing field and therefore,……………………………….. this is how Ido.

[Jimmydr]

Well,…….in light of the bullshit that chicas are doing toinclude starting out with a quote of $100.00 Short Time, I feel it prudent toput this out. Some guys don’t negotiateupfront. Why not? They feel they got the juice that all the chicaswant. How many guys on this board orthat you have ever met in the DR have juice like that? I assure you not many.

At first meeting, some small chit chat, maybe some of mydrink or split a grande Presidente with some various photos of her with heramigas, with me or her just solo sets a good vibe. A price is set and off we go. There is nothing “added” to thisprocess that is in the hard category that but the fact that I added photos tothe process. Not really to brag to otherfellas but first and foremost so Ican ID the bitch if something goes wrong. In another thread how many post stated doesanybody have a picture? Can you ID thebitch? Hell no! Does this work all the100% of the time. Hell no! Nothing is foolproof.

However, the chances of drama are reduced significantly whenpics are obtained upfront during an agreed upon ST. The monger has a betterposition to gauge how a chica is going to be when it gets down to conducting “TheDesignated Business” that she and all of us came to Sosua to do.

Denzel? No notme. Got a little Holyfield thing goingon though. Pretty Ricky? Far from it and hell he’s got a stalker onhis ass now. Remember I told ya’ll awhile back that Ole Henny refused pictures in public but continued to vibe withme all night including After 1. We gotback to the room and then she immediately did an unrequested fashion shoot. Then came the bullshit; 2K for freakyfreaky. At 2 AM?!!!?? Threw her out on her ass. Another chica I met on a recent trip, AKA “Miss Flower Girl” gave me pics back at thehotel by the pool. Got in the room and then…………………..she quoted $100.00 US Dollars. That wasafter an agreed $1000 PESO Short Time. Threwher ass out. Showed her the door walk yo’ass back down them stairs and see yo’self out!! Sorry I deleted the pics. YellowBone with a fat ass with a fake flower in her hair. Hangs at Winner’s Circle.

Taking photos is just a precaution that I use to help fightback against the wave of chicas reneging on quoted prices with the threat ofextortion. I love “new pussy” and my repspeaks for itself. In light of this, I utilizemy power to level my playing field and therefore,……………………………….. this is how Ido.

I can't read this. Why is it so small?

[porno frank]

Can you really trust these girls from the dominican republic. I like the LT but i'd rather have them for a few hours and bust a few nuts. The trust factor is a major thing for me especially in a 3rd world country.

[Robocock]

Although I feel there's too much negotiating on his end, in light of recent events discussed here I like the idea of asking to take a chica's photo to kind of gauge her temperament. I never negotiate and have had no issues. But I have to think about switching up my approach a little just as a precaution for a potential shitstorm.

I gotta admit, I don't understand this. I know that everyone has their own style of doing things. But it just seems to me that you're taking something that's supposed to be extremely simple, and complicating it.

But then, my style and methods are different than most on this board. If it works for you, then more power to ya.

[Robocock]

Can you really trust these girls from the dominican republic. I like the LT but i'd rather have them for a few hours and bust a few nuts. The trust factor is a major thing for me especially in a 3rd world country.

Anybody can get got anywhere by anyone, 3rd world country or not. Once you understand that, it's just a matter of what you're comfortable risking. There's some risk on their end as well. It helps not to come across as a perpetual victim but even that's no guarantee. There's always someone who might try and test you. You just have to do what's comfortable for you.

I always pull a chica w/ ST in mind mostly because I get tired of them real fast and there are so many other options. But if it's a late night pull and we have a hot session then they usually volunteer TLN and I don't argue. That's probably why I don't negotiate because I'm not gonna decide on TLN until I see what I'm really working with in bed.

[exoticspirit]

OK this might seem like a stupid question but I just have to ask - I've done pretty well all STs so I'm a bit ignorant here - when you guys are doing TLNs, just how attractive are the girls in the morning when they have 'jungle mouth' (morning breath)? You have it too. Or do both the girls and you do a quick trip to the bathroom to clear up that jungle mouth first before the morning round?

[Señor JDR of Medellin]

OK this might seem like a stupid question but I just have to ask - I've done pretty well all STs so I'm a bit ignorant here - when you guys are doing TLNs, just how attractive are the girls in the morning when they have 'jungle mouth' (morning breath)? You have it too. Or do both the girls and you do a quick trip to the bathroom to clear up that jungle mouth first before the morning round?

Some of us like to cuddle and a few chicas will wrap them selves around you. The cute 18 or 19 year olds still look cute in the morning.

[Irie]

OK this might seem like a stupid question but I just have to ask - I've done pretty well all STs so I'm a bit ignorant here - when you guys are doing TLNs, just how attractive are the girls in the morning when they have 'jungle mouth' (morning breath)? You have it too. Or do both the girls and you do a quick trip to the bathroom to clear up that jungle mouth first before the morning round?

Her breath has never offended my penis in the morning.