06/2013 - Can Sosua ever be changed into a Cabarete??

[Gutter Meat]

Ex Mayor warns against degradation

FROM SOSUA NEWS...........

The former mayor of Sosúa, Vladimir Céspedes, has expressed in various media his opinion on the proposed actions against prostitution in Sosúa and Cabarete. He says that these actions have already been undertaken in the past and turned out disastrous for both resort towns. The big hotels and resorts like Casa Marina, Sosúa Bay and Sosúa by the Sea are indeed visited by families. But the small hotels are largely dependent on singles. These singles, now mainly from the USA, stay away if the police makes life difficult for the single ladies in the entertainment centers. The ladies provide revenue in the salons, fashion shops, grocers and rental of hotel rooms. All these companies then will also see a dramatically decrease in their sales and are often forced to close their business. As painful as it is, says the former mayor, if there are no substitute facilities, this will be the harsh reality. The Director of Tourism, Lorenzo Sancasani, replied right away in the media. He believes that Cabarete for example with its water sports, music events, sports tournaments, the beautiful beach and well-equipped restaurants is very attractive for the holidaymaker.


Sosúa, with the right intension of the local business people, can also be very attractive for family tourism. Think of eco-tourism, diving schools, good hotels and restaurants and the beautiful beach that Sosúa already has to offer. So Sosúa and Cabarete don’t need not be dependent from single ladies.
Source: Puerto Plata Habla, Sacandomelao.com and Noticias ENN

[greydread]

"Mothafuckas always tryna' ice skate uphill!"

(Hemp)

[psriches]

FROM SOSUA NEWS...........

The former mayor of Sosúa, Vladimir Céspedes, has expressed in various media his opinion on the proposed actions against prostitution in Sosúa and Cabarete. He says that these actions have already been undertaken in the past and turned out disastrous for both resort towns. The big hotels and resorts like Casa Marina, Sosúa Bay and Sosúa by the Sea are indeed visited by families. But the small hotels are largely dependent on singles. These singles, now mainly from the USA, stay away if the police makes life difficult for the single ladies in the entertainment centers. The ladies provide revenue in the salons, fashion shops, grocers and rental of hotel rooms. All these companies then will also see a dramatically decrease in their sales and are often forced to close their business. As painful as it is, says the former mayor, if there are no substitute facilities, this will be the harsh reality. The Director of Tourism, Lorenzo Sancasani, replied right away in the media. He believes that Cabarete for example with its water sports, music events, sports tournaments, the beautiful beach and well-equipped restaurants is very attractive for the holidaymaker.


Sosúa, with the right intension of the local business people, can also be very attractive for family tourism. Think of eco-tourism, diving schools, good hotels and restaurants and the beautiful beach that Sosúa already has to offer. So Sosúa and Cabarete don’t need not be dependent from single ladies.
Source: Puerto Plata Habla, Sacandomelao.com and Noticias ENN

Ohhhhhh, so that's what this is all about? Sosua wants to be a Cabarete? I don't think it's possible. Different lay out and different town vibe (even without the hoes). I always thought getting rid of the hoes was some kind of moral initiative but I guess it's purely economics. And this is why they never mention what would happen to the hoes they get rid of.

What do the ex-pat's think. Can Sosua ever be turned into a Cabarete??

[Jimmydr]

Ohhhhhh, so that's what this is all about? Sosua wants to be a Cabarete? I don't think it's possible. Different lay out and different town vibe (even without the hoes).

What do the ex-pat's think. Can Sosua ever be turned into a Cabarete??

Caberete was empty for about 10 months a year when I was staying there. That was back in 2000-2002. maybe it changed?

[Rico Smooth]

The mayor of Sosua can try the same tactic that Gouliani did in NYC, but our dollars will be going to different venue like Columbia. Why mess up a good thing, it's pointless to take such a high morality stance when your only revenue business is sex tourism.

[Happyhorn]

Does that mean they will be banning big sodas next?

[greydread]

Does that mean they will be banning big sodas next?

[tubrospool]

is really sad for the touism in dr now

[Westy]

Where's Ohmmmm to weigh in on this one? I mean, if we want an expert on the ground ...

He bought, turned around, built up and is running the Kite Beach Inn, right on the beach in Cabarete.

Yet, most of the time we hear from him, he's been hanging out with Robert13212 ... where? Sosua.

With a beachfront property of his own ... I'm wondering, why Sosua?

[WickedWillie]

Where's Ohmmmm to weigh in on this one? I mean, if we want an expert on the ground ...

He bought, turned around, built up and is running the Kite Beach Inn, right on the beach in Cabarete.

Yet, most of the time we hear from him, he's been hanging out with Robert13212 ... where? Sosua.

With a beachfront property of his own ... I'm wondering, why Sosua?

Do you shit on your own doorstep??????

[Westy]

Do you shit on your own doorstep??????

Conceded. Good point. Guess I should disqualify myself, for making light of it.

[greydread]

Do you shit on your own doorstep??????

Like a Ho from Kingston once told me in Negril: "Not in mi Mada yard!"

[deezl]

Answer: No.

Cabarete's got miles of near continuous beach, Sosua has a half-mile crescent cove and a couple other tiny beaches. Cabarete has the constant wind which gives it ideal conditions for kiteboarding, windsurfing, and surfing. Sosua has... A shitty little reef for divers?

They're comparing two entirely different places.

The closest similarity is that many people go to Cabarete to get blown around, whereas people go to Sosua to get blown, around.

[eldorob]

Can Sosua ever be turned into a Cabarete??

Sure, why not? It's got beaches, restuarants, hotels, AI's, Ocean World, 27 Falls, dune buggys, horseback riding, cruise line, etc etc etc.
All it takes is good planning & managment. I could do it with half my brain tied behind my back.

No windsurfing, so what?

[Jimmydr]

Sure, why not? It's got beaches, restuarants, hotels, AI's, Ocean World, 27 Falls, dune buggys, horseback riding, cruise line, etc etc etc.
All it takes is good planning & managment. I could do it with half my brain tied behind my back.

No windsurfing, so what?

There is a limited number of families that go away. Once they find a place, they usually stick with it. Its going to be tough to pull them from PC into Sosua plus get additional families.

[Kevy]

There is a limited number of families that go away. Once they find a place, they usually stick with it. Its going to be tough to pull them from PC into Sosua plus get additional families.

Most are familiar with Playa Dorada, they go there once because it is cheap and never go back.

[Jimmydr]

Most are familiar with Playa Dorada, they go there once because it is cheap and never go back.

They will kill Sosua and it will take ten tears to come back like Boca did.

[Kevy]

The sky is falling everywhere, the AC boards are full of stories about the mayor meeting all the bar owners/managers. He let his deputy rip them and say he would close all the bars if he was mayor, then told them new rules were on the way and if they did not follow, they would be raided. He followed up with his hand out for money to fix up a park there..

Same all over these days.

[jose1234]

Where's Ohmmmm to weigh in on this one? I mean, if we want an expert on the ground ...

He bought, turned around, built up and is running the Kite Beach Inn, right on the beach in Cabarete.

Yet, most of the time we hear from him, he's been hanging out with Robert13212 ... where? Sosua.

With a beachfront property of his own ... I'm wondering, why Sosua?

I think the subsequent posters are correct overall. But let me also add...due to ISOC and etc. I have made lots of friends that live, visit and hang out in Sosua. In Sosua I can belch, fart, drink into a stupor, watch hot chicas shaking their asses, yell at the top of my lungs, listen to jokes and stories that would be inappropriate somewhere else and other things...

Regarding the future of Sosua... Well, unless a few new large resorts take over a good portion of the beach area and the town does not try to fix up the sidewalks, lighting and garbage removal...then the town would go down hill if a substantial amount of prostitution is eliminated.
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Gringo tourists on vacation do not spend that much more than guys coming for girls on vacation and many times less. In addition, gringo vacation tourists only come a few months of the year while sex tourists come year round. If we are talking AI resorts, then the gringo vacationers seldom venture out of the resort, except maybe once or twice...not really helping the surrounding community except for the jobs it creates which are typically only low level cleaning maids and groundskeepers. Most management positions go to foreign workers or more educated workers from Santo Domingo...

If the community had a large foriegn investor committed to developing Sosua, and could get their project off the ground right away, then there might be limited suffering and a chance to save Sosua, but if prostitution is curtailed and the city is left to linger for years hoping for a savior, then the town is likely to deteriorate more...aka Detroit.... Would a place like Sosua attract a large investor if the town further deteriorated, restaurants closed, many small businesses and hotels closed and was filled with desperate people trying to survive and turning to crime???

I have not been to Pattaya, but didn't that city develop as a city from a small town and also have prostitution??? I think if prostitution is managed or moved down the street, then that would be a good compromise... But, leave it to the Dominicans to fuck things up...sooner or later...

[MrHappy]

Where's Ohmmmm to weigh in on this one? I mean, if we want an expert on the ground ...

He bought, turned around, built up and is running the Kite Beach Inn, right on the beach in Cabarete.

Yet, most of the time we hear from him, he's been hanging out with Robert13212 ... where? Sosua.

With a beachfront property of his own ... I'm wondering, why Sosua?

What are you implying, that he's in love with Robert?