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    Re: Rules to stay Safe in the DR

    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder View Post
    Actually for almost 11 years I had lived in the North Coast of the DR. It was my decision based on several matters non of it to do with the DR to leave. The last 3 yrs I have had 6 to 8 nice return trips, finally selling my house and now deciding its a good time to explore other destinations.

    Al NYc post...I'll try to answer

    As far as # 2, #3, and #4 on my DR tips for staying safe in my previous post, this is what happened.

    #2. Never drive a car at night between Sosua and Po Plata... Because you may hit and kill a cow on the road, or a motoconcho with no lights working. I've done both.

    A. About 13 yrs ago I traveled a lot between Sosua- P. Plata to visit my GF at night. Heading to P.Plata just b 4 the Miltary Base a farmer had several cows in those fields. One was on the main highway which not only I couldn't see, but the car from the other direction also said he couldn't see being hit. Totaled my car, didnt have to pay off the farmer because the law states at night it is the owner of the animals fault, end of story, end of car, seat belts and bags worked great!
    B. Accident and death of the motoconcho. The most tragic time while living in the DR or anywhere for that matter. Just after leaving P. Plata at night, I hit a moto concho that was not riding in the moto lane, but center of the car lane with no rear lights where you past Playa Dorado heading up Star Hill climb. All I will say is that I took him to hospital ASAP, he died the following day in Bournagal, and between my contacts, police, an agreement of payment was made to the family. This is the worst experience in my life that a man lost his life which I was directly involved with, and that his family will never see or speak to him again. I can't write anymore about this with the pain I always have with me, however I know not as much pain as his family feels each day though.

    #3. Never get caught taking a non P2P women who you don't know is married to a Dominicano to a cabana..... I've done that and somehow survived.

    Pretty simple, picked up a local who was waiting for a publico, offered her a ride to P. Plata where she was attending university classes. We spoke about many things and when I offered to give her a ride back to house she agreed. We met after her classes and and had a few Presidentes first at a bar before heading back. As we were leaving and agreed to go to a cabana just outside of P. Plata a male approaches the both of us with this crazy look on his face. He ( I find out its her primo) doesn't speak english, but what I could understand someone in the bar contacted him knowing she was family. She then tells me all, and I tell the guy I know nothing about her having a husband, he grabs her and off they go, I live for another day.

    #4. Never tell a Dominican who owes you money, if he doesn't pay now than you are taking him to court..... I've done that and ended up with a hugh medical bill.

    Crazy as it sounds for a gringo, I lent an amount to a Dominican to pay off his property that was paying a crazy interest rate and was going to lose his house for non payment. I knew him for 5 years as a hard worker who had many gringo customers,his own business, and was a goid family man. So I had my lawyers draw up the repayment plans at a much lower but acceptable rate. First 5 months, all payments made. Christmas comes and no direct payment in Jan. I'm off island until March or April and still no payment in the following months. I contact him several times from oversees and the story keeps changing. Fast forward my return and meeting him at another customers house and confront him. He goes absolutely crazy like looking for an object to hit me as he kept saying I was embarrassing him in front of his customer who I knew very well. I leave after telling him I'm going to my lawyer to start sueing him. I should not have told him what I was doing, he contacts someone and just as I am getting out of the car, bam across the back of shoulder and head I am hit with a solid 2 by 4 or something like that ( no witnesses
    ) . I am taken to CMC in Cabarete and with a cuccussion, fracture shoulder I am in the hospital for 4 day. As I just returned to the DR my insurance payment was never tranfered online as I made it oversees at the end of Dec, health insurance was cancelled, time for CC and Banca Santa Cruz. Several weeks later my laywer is talking with the police, no witnesses, nothing canbe done. After several more months I finially start getting partial payment as my lawyer is involved in dealing with this guy 100 %. In the end I know I will lose a large portion of the orginal potential value of the loan when you way out the lawyer, and medical bill, but $$ I can replace in time.

    Even with just these stated 5 rules, my time was spent very safe concidering the many locals I knew, as well as I never dressed like a tourist or drank much before driving. I did stat taking it for granted that between those two place on the road, there was no light poles, others driving with high beams, pot hole hell, and lets not remind some gringo who always gets car jacked.
    Thanks for sharing

    2. I used to drive between Sosua and Puerto Plata almost 3-5 times a week when I was still hooked on Sosua but living in Puerto Plata. I can't count how many cows and horses I dodged in the middle of the night and the motos without lights. I consider myself to be quite fortunate I have never had an accident with either.

    I count myself fortunate that I have not experienced what you have. Had I had to go through all that it might have discouraged me from living here.

    3. I have never done this, I can only imagine what you thought when you realized what was happening.

    4. I have learned the hard way a loan to most Dominicans is really a gift that I shouldn't expect to be paid back.

    Thanks again for sharing!

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    Re: Rules to stay Safe in the DR

    Quote Originally Posted by camaro1257 View Post
    Thanks for sharing

    2. I used to drive between Sosua and Puerto Plata almost 3-5 times a week when I was still hooked on Sosua but living in Puerto Plata. I can't count how many cows and horses I dodged in the middle of the night and the motos without lights. I consider myself to be quite fortunate I have never had an accident with either.

    I count myself fortunate that I have not experienced what you have. Had I had to go through all that it might have discouraged me from living here.

    3. I have never done this, I can only imagine what you thought when you realized what was happening.

    4. I have learned the hard way a loan to most Dominicans is really a gift that I shouldn't expect to be paid back.

    Thanks again for sharing!

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    Re: Rules to stay Safe in the DR

    i wouldn't loan anybody money especially if your inna a 3rd world country. i dont care how long you known the person. how nice they are. you cant trust them. especially with your money.

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    Re: Rules to stay Safe in the DR

    I wonder which rules are not travel as general or hobby as general related, but Dom Rep specific, that is apply only in Dom Rep
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    Re: Rules to stay Safe in the DR

    Quote Originally Posted by questner View Post
    I wonder which rules are not travel as general or hobby as general related, but Dom Rep specific, that is apply only in Dom Rep
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    Re: Rules to stay Safe in the DR

    Quote Originally Posted by steviewonder View Post
    Never call a chica a Gordita, and expect to walk again


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    Re: Rules to stay Safe in the DR

    I hit a cow on that POP to Sosua route about 3 in the morning. Lucky for me I hit the thing in the mid-section and the airbags didn't go off. The way it happened I think it would have been worst if the bags went off and I would have been stranded 10 miles from Sosua in the middle of the morning. I drove the car on to my apartment. Car was covered with the contents of the things stomach. Didn't know if the cow was alive or dead. When I took the car in for the police report required by the rental car insurance the cops had a ball roasting my ass. Ended up with $6,000 worth of damage most of which was paid by my credit car company.

    I don't seek out married women, but those girls come out to the casinos and after-hour spots. I've gotten involved with a couple that I didn't know were married until I saw them in the streets with their husband and kids. Lots of lonely women there who are open to a tryst. It's definitely something you need to me extremely careful about.

    I've loaned money a couple of times to Dominicans. I picked up real fast that their pride was easily inflamed if you badgered them about repaying. As Cam said, it's not a loan it's a gift. I now simply cry broke when asked.

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    Re: Rules to stay Safe in the DR

    Quote Originally Posted by porno frank View Post
    i wouldn't loan anybody money especially if your inna a 3rd world country. i dont care how long you known the person. how nice they are. you cant trust them. especially with your money.
    Not just in a 3rd World country. Studies show that 2/3 of loans to family and friends are never repaid in Canada and the US as well.

    I was told early on that I would be wise to consider any loan to such to be a gift, and regard any repayment as a pleasant surprise. I ignored this of course, and have had to learn the hard way. I forget who said it, but "if you lend money to a friend, you will lose both money and friend".

    On the other hand, when there is someone you can't stand, $100 might be a small price to never have to deal with that person again.

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    Re: Rules to stay Safe in the DR

    Quote Originally Posted by The Sage View Post
    I hit a cow on that POP to Sosua route about 3 in the morning. Lucky for me I hit the thing in the mid-section and the airbags didn't go off. The way it happened I think it would have been worst if the bags went off and I would have been stranded 10 miles from Sosua in the middle of the morning. I drove the car on to my apartment. Car was covered with the contents of the things stomach. Didn't know if the cow was alive or dead. When I took the car in for the police report required by the rental car insurance the cops had a ball roasting my ass. Ended up with $6,000 worth of damage most of which was paid by my credit car company.

    I don't seek out married women, but those girls come out to the casinos and after-hour spots. I've gotten involved with a couple that I didn't know were married until I saw them in the streets with their husband and kids. Lots of lonely women there who are open to a tryst. It's definitely something you need to me extremely careful about.

    I've loaned money a couple of times to Dominicans. I picked up real fast that their pride was easily inflamed if you badgered them about repaying. As Cam said, it's not a loan it's a gift. I now simply cry broke when asked.

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    Re: Rules to stay Safe in the DR

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/michig...gged-strangled

    RIP

    Very sad

    Can be merged with the recent relevant thread

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    Re: Rules to stay Safe in the DR

    Dom Rep to issue ID's (cedulas) from twelve years on request (mostly intended to young expecting mothers). So, the extra mile of doing the right thing should obviously include the step of actually examining the numbers on the document.


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    Re: Rules to stay Safe in the DR

    No, you don't want to be part of preventive incarceration, (Higuey, Dom Rep):


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    Re: Rules to stay Safe in the DR

    Quote Originally Posted by Al Nyc View Post
    Wow!! You’ve lived through several potential life changing incidents. You’re experiences should be a warning to every tourists and expats in DR.
    this experience is a warning to everyone everywhere. Never lend anyone money unless your ok not getting paid back. Family and friends become enemies the minute your relationship changes from equals to debtor and debtee.

    People begin to resent/hate those they owe money to and they’ll convince themselves it’s them that’s in the right and that your being greedy or selfish because your richer (or don’t deserve your wealth as much as they do) so you should have given it to them.

    when people ask me for money I usually say no or I ask them to do something for me first in return. Most are too lazy or self centered to do stuff for the money or we’re just looking for a handout with no strings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quays2 View Post
    when people ask me for money I usually say no or I ask them to do something for me first in return. Most are too lazy or self centered to do stuff for the money or we’re just looking for a handout with no strings.

    So what do I have to do? Do I need a shovel?

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    Re: Rules to stay Safe in the DR

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    So what do I have to do? Do I need a shovel?
    haha if you can get to Canada I could use some help loading and unloading my car as I move my mining rigs. And setup after ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by quays2 View Post
    haha if you can get to Canada I could use some help loading and unloading my car as I move my mining rigs. And setup after ^^

    I don't do those type of things.

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    Re: Rules to stay Safe in the DR

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmydr View Post
    I don't do those type of things.
    me either

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    Re: Rules to stay Safe in the DR

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmydr View Post
    I don't do those type of things.
    He was talking about crypto-coin mining.
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